The Australian Blacklist
Let's see Spook defend the Labor scum for this...
Incase they add that site to the list I've removed the link. But Google Wikileak and follow the articles. WARNING - DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINKS ON THE SITE. But about half of the sites on the list are not related to child porn and include a slew of online poker sites, YouTube links, regular gay and straight porn sites, Wikipedia entries, euthanasia sites, websites of fringe religions such as satanic sites, fetish sites, Christian sites, the website of a tour operator and even a Queensland dentist. ... Redtube will be blacklisted. |
12:17pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Without going to them, how are any of those sites different to the BAJILLIONS of others out there on the internet with the same content.
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12:24pm 19/03/09 Permalink
So if you click a link the police will come to your house and eat your soul?
Guess the dentist forgot to pay his campain moneys |
12:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
will qgl get shutdown / link removal notice lol...
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12:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I'll be pissed if torrent sites start disappearing
>8-( |
12:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
yeah, where would you get your linux isos?
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12:30pm 19/03/09 Permalink
im 100% against my internet being censored
im trusting on the boffins eventually getting the message through that internet censoring is a bad idea and cant really be done anyway |
12:33pm 19/03/09 Permalink
damn right infi! And then everyone will live happily ever after with 2 gb download limits lol... ... ... ... HELPELPELLEPL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12:33pm 19/03/09 Permalink
if i made us proxy server i could skip this couldnt i?
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12:38pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Redtube blocked? what the hell?
That makes 0 sense.... At the quick glance I took, there seems to be lots of stuff that I have no problems with being blocked (eg. sites to do with Joseph Fritzl's favourite past time), it also highlights that people can basically complain & stuff will be added with no public consultation. |
12:43pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Haha that's bulls*** my favourite porn site is on there! I want to tell you which one it is to prove it's not a child porn one, but don't think I should put a porno link here.
Actually there are some horse porns on there, but not as many as there used to be. |
12:49pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The danish list of sites is blacklisted? because it has a list of sites.. then supposedly this list will be blacklisted also?
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12:49pm 19/03/09 Permalink
thermite, that's going on the wiki.
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12:52pm 19/03/09 Permalink
OK I've clicked some links in the list that interested me
- Specific Youtube accounts - all the ones I clicked were suspended by youtube anyway - Specific videos in porn videos sites - the one I just clicked on was just a closeup video of a guy shagging a sex doll.. wtf... - Specific yahoo pages, none of which exist anymore haha 2 girls 1 cup is on there I clicked a few porn sites that sounded familiar and didn't find anything illegal on there. Seriously, concern yourself with this list! |
12:58pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Please not pornotube as well! What about youporn? It doesn't end in tube, it might be ok. But seriously. Are we going to become like Iran or what? We might as well just elect the communist party and get it over with. |
01:02pm 19/03/09 Permalink
For every 1 nerd that cries on qgl about porn being taken away from them, there are probably 1000 middle aged mothers who wholeheartedly support this move. Fortunately, their husbands will not, which just leaves 15 nerds crying. |
01:08pm 19/03/09 Permalink
how can 1 nerd have 1000 mothers? that ratio is borked.
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01:12pm 19/03/09 Permalink
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01:21pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Hahahaha no more porno-cards for you mooby...
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01:23pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Spankwire is gone (even though it is s***) At least the good torrent sites haven't been blocked Oh god no, not /b/ on 4chan |
01:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
you will just have to feed the cas rakes instead :p
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01:29pm 19/03/09 Permalink
You have got to be f*****g me .....
fulltilt poker and poker stars are both on that f*****g piece of s*** list. How in the f*** can they sell this bulls*** on the old think of the children crap and we are stopping child porn yet get away with blacklisting every possible type of site in existence. Just wondering about how sites get on the list. SOmone said people can make complaints or some s*** like that.... is that right? If that is true we need a few dozen of you clever f*****s out there to make some kind of script that'll report every f*****g website known to man to bury these s***heads under a mountain of crap. infi next election tell me exactly where you want my votes to go and I'll do it.... f*****g idiot government. |
01:39pm 19/03/09 Permalink
But with the stance that the pro-filter people take, they always have the supposed moral high ground.
All they have to say is something along the lines of "Its ok to block a few poker sites if we save one child somewhere from child abuse, and if want to play online poker more than saving that one child then you are a monster" Of course thats all bulls***, but thats what they believe. |
01:44pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I'm not telling anyone how to vote. I will just voice my opinion on the issues.
But I sure can tell you that this paternalistic condescending attitude of the ALP since it has come to power is sickening. 1. You don't know how to use the internet properly so we will filter it for you. 2. You don't know how to bargain with your boss so we will make it illegal. 3. You don't know how to check your wages, so we will let the union you aren't even a member of come in and inspect your personal wages records. 4. You don't know how to drink responsibly so we grab a bit more tax revenue. 5. You don't know how to live within your means so we will dole out some borrowed money to keep you consuming useless sh it. 6. GST is a fundamental injustice but we won't repeal it. F*** me dead, this is Hollowmen taken to the extreme with this bunch of focus group driven f***tards. |
01:49pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Noticed a few pro euthanasia sites on there too, as well as Encyclopedia Dramatica.
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01:54pm 19/03/09 Permalink
soooo we are allowed to click the links or not? cuz i clicked the dentist one and swat hasnt busted my door down yet....
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01:54pm 19/03/09 Permalink
but have you found the porn on the dentist site yet?
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01:58pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The Greens and Opposition also oppose the scheme, meaning any legislation to implement it will be blocked. This is interesting. Could the Government censor our internets without passing it through parliament? I'm not telling anyone how to vote. I will just voice my opinion on the issues. You are a shining beacon of truth in difficult, dark times infi. Strive on brother! Voice your opinion! last edited by Hogfather at 14:02:03 19/Mar/09 |
01:59pm 19/03/09 Permalink
so are these the sites that are currently blocked for the trial?
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02:02pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Honestly has anyone really pointed out to these pinheads that the filter will simply be bypassed by people seriously wanting to ... you know get what they want? I know people say they have told the government how easily bypassed it is but surely something must of been lost in the translation because they really can't be that stupid.
I just want to go bash my head against a wall... why in the f*** should the average decent Aussie have to deal with this crap? ANother thing that s**** the f*****g hell out of me is that most of the public weight behind this would be from people that don't give a f*** either way it just sounds good because some c******* in Canberra told them so. |
02:03pm 19/03/09 Permalink
You're allowed to click on the links, so long as they don't contain illegal stuff (like kiddy porn), but you can get fined $11,000 a day if you link to any of them.
So it might be a good idea to remove any links posted above :) |
02:03pm 19/03/09 Permalink
re: the dentist site. If you look at archive.org you can see it was hacked to traffic CP a while back.
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02:06pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Hogfather, I am openly critical of the ALP's policies and I give reasons. At least I am not a closet ALP supporter who sits on the fence to imitate an arm's length commentator.
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02:07pm 19/03/09 Permalink
obviosly no one has told the acma about the Streisand_effect
I've already had 2 different forums post links to the banned list that probably wouldnt have done so if the acma hadnt told everyone they could do it. |
02:08pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Just out of curiosity did anyone notice any news sites on that list? I wasn't really looking for them ... not that I am to familiar with anything other than the lstandard local ones anyway.
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02:10pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I've removed the main link incase the ACMA blacklists that site. But if anyone needs to find the list just google Wikileak and follow the links.
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02:17pm 19/03/09 Permalink
this is such a stupid crock of s***, it's hard to believe this entire thing is actually a serious govt. undertaking
mind boggling |
02:26pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I heard trog wants to get qgl on the list so everyone has to goto the new ausgamers coloured forum
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02:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
this is such a stupid crock of s***, it's hard to believe this entire thing is actually a serious govt. undertaking |
02:30pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I heard trog wants to get qgl on the list so everyone has to goto the new ausgamers coloured forum lawl.. but the ausgamers one is painful.. i like the smoothness etc that qgl is lacking but make it nicer colours ffs!@! |
02:34pm 19/03/09 Permalink
surely they cant block all the p0k3r sites?
on what grounds? someone tell me if www.blogwars.com is blocked? |
02:51pm 19/03/09 Permalink
all the fun stuff is illegal these days...
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02:52pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Lets just be honest, the only one we are actually sorry to see go is redtube. Having said that, I know Labor is inherently incompetent but what on earth do they really think they are doing?
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02:53pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Hang on - /b/ was on there?
I missed that. s***. That'll suck to be a /b/tard! |
02:58pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I think it's pretty clear that noone here supports these ridiculous draconian measures, but we also don't want to risk equally ridiculous fines so if everyone could please refrain from directly hyperlinking to any blacklisted sites here, that would appreciated.
Carry on :) |
02:58pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I for one can't wait for the blacklist to be implemented - then I can sell my super-duper-ticcles-enhanced-web-proxy for $4.95/mth!
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03:02pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The only reason the Libs didn't do it was because they decided it was unfeasible. Do they really oppose this based on the idea of censorship or based on the cost and ineffectual results? I think if you can currently be fined for posting a link to one of those sites then surely that is a way of filtering the internet already without the use of legislation? It doesn't stop people from being able to go to those sites but it will make those sites much harder to access and the general public will probably never end up stumbling upon them. What if you did a Google search and those links popped up, do they fine Google? |
03:03pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I know Labor is inherently incompetent but what on earth do they really think they are doing?I genuinely think it's just a dangerous mix of good intentions (protect the children) with a complete lack of understanding of how the Internet works. Oh, and obviously a heavy amount of pig-headed inability to be able to admit they were wrong. Since the onset, they've had experts lining up to tell them the dozens of reasons why this approach to filtering simply won't work, but they seem so set in their ways to find out for themselves, even when that means wasting millions of dollars of taxpayers money. The problem for them is, it was an election promise and even though none of the population wants it, they're going to go ahead with rigorous trials just so they can say "after testing, it was found not to work, but we still had to try". |
03:04pm 19/03/09 Permalink
yeah f*****g awesome .... just pour some more of our money down that f*****g black hole. It's actually pretty disheartening to see any member of government be advised that by some genuinely smart people that X won't work and then have them promptly shrug of that advice. It really doesn't inspire much confidence in anything they do after s*** like that.
Do politicians really think they are that much smarter or that much above the average aussie in the street? I just can't imagine what it must be like to go through life with that level of arogance. If you are aparently so far above everyone else and you are always aparently right about everything how do you actually learning anything? Treating the general population like f*****g children is something our government seems to do better than anything else. It's like some kind of f***ed up national past time for them or something. I am not just pointing the finger at labor here either because no party or independant member is immune to this kind of BS attitude. Just a thought. What do you guys think the potential is for things like record companies is to lobby the government to expand this kind of filter to include sites they see as a threat? Or for that matter any special interest group to do exactly that. last edited by Taipan at 15:38:50 19/Mar/09 |
03:36pm 19/03/09 Permalink
lol making the ausforums admins work too hard deleting everyones posts :P funny stuff.
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03:39pm 19/03/09 Permalink
ACMA has warned that anyone who republishes the list or attempts to access child pornography sites on it could face up to 10 years in prison. Be careful. |
03:45pm 19/03/09 Permalink
is there any distinction between which sites are opt in and which are flat out banned?
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03:51pm 19/03/09 Permalink
haha kevinrudd is getting hammered on twitter. suck s***.
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04:01pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I think alot of this has been mis-understood by people thinking this is "the internet filter". This isn't the internet filter, it's actually the ACMA (Australian Communications and Media Authority ) saying that those pages contained prohbited material in Australia, and linking to the sites will incur you a massive fine. ($11,000 per day).
of course, who gets to define that, i'm not sure, but after reading this Wikileaks was added to the blacklist for publishing a leaked document containing Denmark's list of banned websites. makes you wonder why all of this has to be behind closed doors. Pretty s*** really. For a supposedly modern, free, democratic, and learnered coutnry, we sure are acting alot more like religious dictatorships (i want to say fundamentalists, but not sure if thats right). |
04:08pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Alcopops tax Defeated
Fair Work = might be defeated Web Filter ? Let labor call a double dissolution so we can send a message to these clowns about what we think of a web filter. |
04:08pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The news.com.au comments are absolutely ripping the Government. When will Rudd listen?
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04:11pm 19/03/09 Permalink
What are the pre-requisites of getting added to the Blacklist? Can someone simply request to have a site added? Or does it need to go through certain channels (e.g. media, senate, etc)? I can understand why Partypoker would be listed on there, but as for most of the others i have no idea.
Somehow i get the feeling that alot of the adult related sites would have been requested by overprotective parents or religious groups. I'm starting to wonder what society itself is becoming... soon enough we'll be censored from all visual entertainment.... Heard on the radio that they were trying to ban alcohol ads from showing during sporting events... but later on they said it'd been quashed. The bottom line is who makes these stupid accusations or rather comes up with these ridiculous ideas... whatever happened to free will and deciding things on our own. |
04:17pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Heard on the radio that they were trying to ban alcohol ads from showing during sporting events... but later on they said it'd been quashed. The bottom line is who makes these stupid accusations or rather comes up with these ridiculous ideas... whatever happened to free will and deciding things on our own. Steve Fielding - The Family First Party senator who was blocking the Alcopops Tax bill, wanted Labor to legislate no alcohol advertising for sporting events. Nobody else agrees with this as far as I know. |
04:21pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Hogfather, I am openly critical of the ALP's policies and I give reasons. At least I am not a closet ALP supporter who sits on the fence to imitate an arm's length commentator. Haha you twit. Since you seem to have asked, I'm not a "closet ALP supporter" - I voted Labor as a young dude, then Liberal all through Johnny's term, right up until the last election. As a small business owner my natural political position is actually slightly right. I disagree with the cash component of the fiscal stimulus package and think the other portion was about 40% too big, and should have been held in reserve. I worry about the extreme action taken by our Government without a whisper of a mandate. I think that the internet filering thingy if it goes ahead will secure my vote back to the Libs at the next election - assuming they promise to dismantle it. One of the reasons I voted against Liberal is that I was concerned about their track record on eroding citizen's rights. I'm unhappy that the ALP has done even a worse job on this. So no, I'm not an ALP supporter. I just think your one-eyed tirades combined with impartial posturing are f*****g hilarious regardless of political persuasion. last edited by Hogfather at 16:30:23 19/Mar/09 |
04:23pm 19/03/09 Permalink
the cricket wouldn't be the cricket without XXXX ad's
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04:25pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Well im an Old school Labor supporter.
Not this new Conservative Labor party. These redicerous Policies they've pulled out since getting elected are more like theyve come from The Howard Manifesto. Krudd is the Fu-Manchurian Candidate. HE wants to Chinarise Australia and now hes even letting them take our Mining companies. Barnaby Joyce = Australias Ron Paul. |
04:34pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Man don't have anyone even remotely close to Ron Paul in politics in this country.
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04:39pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The news.com.au comments are absolutely ripping the Government. When will Rudd listen?I don't want the government to take feedback from people that read news.com.au |
04:43pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Well im an Old school Labor supporter. Sorry, Howard didn't introduce any policies as lame as these. |
04:47pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Senator Conroy has released a statement saying the leaked list is not the ACMA blacklist, but that there are "some common URLs to those on the ACMA blacklist". "ACMA advises that there are URLs on the published list that have never been the subject of a complaint or ACMA investigation, and have never been included on the ACMA blacklist", he said. Wikileaks said that the published list was "derived" from the ACMA blacklist. Fake. It contains "some sites" from the real blacklist. |
04:49pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Conroy could clear this all up by publishing the list on his site.
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04:53pm 19/03/09 Permalink
The thing a secret blacklist gives any goverment is the power to say any website is banned because the list is secret.
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04:54pm 19/03/09 Permalink
is it any coincidence that wikileaks com org etc no longer works for me ?
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04:56pm 19/03/09 Permalink
It'd be getting hammered by thousands of people trying to access it, I imagine.
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04:57pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Do you think Conroy might be bulls***ting about it having sites on there that aren't on the real list, because I would put that kind of a cheap transperent tactic past these f***heads.
As was just said he should publish the real list on his website if for no other reason than to prove his isn't a full of s*** f***wit. |
05:00pm 19/03/09 Permalink
On the 19th of March 2009 Australian internet users were blocked from accessing the wikileaks website which contains the list of banned sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Australia |
05:02pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Mongie: "Websites contained on it will be blocked for all Australians once the government implements its mandatory internet filtering scheme - originally pitched as targeting only "illegal" content - later this year."
At the moment, i don't believe the sites are on a black list, you can still get to all of them, they would be blocked under the mandatory blocking IF the internet filter was active. Which it isn't. At the moment, all that can be done is fine people for linking to inaproriate material. Thats my understanding. |
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05:26pm 19/03/09 Permalink
URL on the right side of where you post is another work for 'link'
please use kthanx |
05:28pm 19/03/09 Permalink
URL on the right side of where you post is another work for 'link' Posted from Ausgamers, so that's not there. Your post was fairly retarded and took a bit of deciphering, so I could see how it'd be hard for you to copy and paste. |
05:35pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I thought online poker was illegal in australia/other countries?
Everyone normal uses QGL... last edited by BatS*** at 17:37:13 19/Mar/09 |
05:36pm 19/03/09 Permalink
haha ruddkips what is next? mandatory instruction in Chinese language skills for all Australian students?
throw another dimsim on the barbie mate |
05:47pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I believe that Conroys call of a hoax is in fact ..... wait for it .... a hoax. You know how much polies hate being caught with their hands up the aids skirt they say any old s*** to try and save some face.
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05:52pm 19/03/09 Permalink
If that's not Conroy's list then it's not illegal to link to it. Start un-nuking all those posts admins.
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06:19pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Why would you risk offending the government, as they become more chinese you could even just vanish if you offend their sense of authority.
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06:25pm 19/03/09 Permalink
I'd rather a chinese government then the bats*** useless retards you retards voted in.
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06:35pm 19/03/09 Permalink
"The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
See also: The Streisand Effect. Classic example. By trying to censor all these things, more Australians than ever before have seen photos of aborted fetuses. |
06:42pm 19/03/09 Permalink
actually trog, i believe thats called ironing
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06:42pm 19/03/09 Permalink
So lets get this clear.
1. The list isnt realy the list, but does contain some links on the real list 2. We can still get in trouble for linking to the list, but its not the list. 3. Because its a secret list, they can't tell us what on the leaked list is on the real list. |
08:29pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Trog, So why did admins delete the posts on page 1 that linked to completly legeal sites?
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08:42pm 19/03/09 Permalink
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09:32pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Oh booohooo. Get off internet porn and get a real woman already.
Wait, you gronks arleady get off watching gayinternet porn, so please, carry on. |
10:11pm 19/03/09 Permalink
alcohol, gambling and prostitution is all we good for.
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10:22pm 19/03/09 Permalink
If the list is real (they've publicly denied it is, despite all the effort to censor it) then they've already proven they're willing to abuse the s*** out of it.
-Redtube -A wikipedia page that features a few softcore bondage pics -YOUTUBE PAGES -Poker sites (this is ridiculous and is ONE STEP off banning the major piracy trackers or even BT/Filesharing traffic if the copyright authorities barked loud enough) -Myspace profiles -4chan and ED. Though these have probably had incidents of paedo content. -Abby f*****g winters. Porn doesn't get more inoffensive than abbywinters. This is almost the least logical entry -Wikileaks - THIS is the worst offender; great firewall of china levels of internet censorship. |
11:14pm 19/03/09 Permalink
Heh nuked for linking to a star trek site!?
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11:49pm 19/03/09 Permalink
It has also warned that linking to sites on the list could incur fines of up to $11,000 a day. I want to know what happens if you link to a site that ISN'T on the list, but a few days/weeks/months later it ends up on the list. What about sites that have a bunch of hyperlinks to random sites? Does this mean that everyone using the internet is now supposed to reference a list that can't be linked to before they link to anything? |
01:13am 20/03/09 Permalink
Oh booohooo. Get off internet porn and get a real woman already. *flys to baghdad for pre-arranged wedding* |
02:38am 20/03/09 Permalink
I thought this was all a Joke! what the hell ...
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05:16am 20/03/09 Permalink
I thought this was all a Joke! what the hell ...
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05:16am 20/03/09 Permalink
I thought this was all a Joke! what the hell ...
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05:16am 20/03/09 Permalink
so if i go to redtube now i'm going to get slammed?
also what is the deal with this fine bulls***? i thought the point was to block the sites |
07:34am 20/03/09 Permalink
Save one child? What s***.
We are over in Iraq fighting and killing people all the time. This is f*****g ridiculous. |
08:10am 20/03/09 Permalink
so if i go to redtube now i'm going to get slammed? ? my bro was on there the other day. Looks like they are canning conspiracies to prevent spread from the look of some of the sites. |
08:27am 20/03/09 Permalink
-Abby f*****g winters. Porn doesn't get more inoffensive than abbywinters. This is almost the least logical entryAbby Winters has gone downhill. Though I agree, it's wholesome lesbian lovin, normal free to air TV is more offensive then it. |
09:03am 20/03/09 Permalink
The managing director of iiNet, Michael Malone, has said of Stephen Conroy "This is the worst Communications Minister we've had in the 15 years since the [internet] industry has existed," and plans to sign up his ISP for participation in live filtering trials by December 24 to provide the Government with "hard numbers" demonstrating "how stupid it [the filtering proposal] is." Lol. I agree. Conroy only continues to show his incompetence and lack of understanding of what Australia really wants or needs. (As well as whats technically possible). |
09:17am 20/03/09 Permalink
eh dont shoot the messenger there buddy
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09:29am 20/03/09 Permalink
Mr Conroy is going to be on 'Q and A' next week. How many on you are going to see if you can send in a question and have it read?
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09:52am 20/03/09 Permalink
The only positive thing about this whole debarkle is that with any luck it will lose some of krudd's bought bogan votes and we'll get the libs back in next election.
This country has gone to the weiners. |
09:52am 20/03/09 Permalink
And the libs are going to take the weiners to the ass and f*** it.
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12:54pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Sorry, Howard didn't introduce any policies as lame as these Fark Mongie. If it wasn't for Howard we would be already be building our NBN with the newly formed Telstra Wholesale Company, tender would have been a non issue as the majority government ownership of the major infrastructure wouldn't have changed. With a super fast affordable network the filtering wouldn't be an issue as we would all just connect through OS proxies and it would be like the whole thing never happened. |
01:34pm 20/03/09 Permalink
ok, so conroy has said that it isnt the ACMA blacklist that is published on wikileaks.
http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/014 So that means I can post the link again. (edited for trog) its not like everyone doesnt know where to find it by now. So there is no reason to delete this post, because how can you get in trouble for linking to a list that, as stated by conroy, isnt the list? Yeah im just trying to stir things up a bit. Admins, if you delete this post, then they have already won. last edited by `ViPER` at 15:52:04 20/Mar/09 |
03:31pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Yeah im just trying to stir things up a bit. Admins, if you delete this post, then they have already won.That's not how laws work - they've already won because it's already law that they can ask people to remove them, and they can do that because we voted in a government that wanted to make laws like that at some point in our history. By posting stuff like that you merely expose innocent third parties (like us) to fines and legal action. If you really want to make a stand about it, start your own website and post about it there. It should be obvious that I think it's utterly retarded that you can be sued for linking to a link that might link to some other links that possibly are links that have been "banned". |
03:49pm 20/03/09 Permalink
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/technology/qld-dentist-furious-over-blacklist/2009/03/19/1237054974422.html
Seems its ok to link to some of the sites as the brisbane times are doing it, obviously the wrongly listed ones. Apparently the dentist guy had his website host hacked years back, but changed hosts straight away and thats how he got on the list. |
03:55pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Seems its ok to link to some of the sites as the brisbane times are doing it, obviously the wrongly listed ones.Yeh - you'll note I didn't delete your post, or even ask you to delete it (given the rapid proliferation of links all over the place I'd say the chances of someone going around chasing people would be a thoroughly futile exercise). I don't see it as a big deal. |
03:58pm 20/03/09 Permalink
no worries trog. The thing i find funny is, people are posting links to sites that are obviously on the list wrongly, but the thing is, no one actual knows if the sites are not on the list.
Im sure the densist site is fine, but what if it isnt? what if there is hidden porn? Conroy has kinda shot himself in the foot by saying that it isnt the list, but does contain parts of the list, and that it definatly contains websites never listed by the acma. How do these legitimate sites find out if they are meant to be on the list?, can they ring up and ask? But if its a secret list, they wont be able to tell you? |
04:04pm 20/03/09 Permalink
I don't see it as a big deal. Those will probably be your 'famous' last words trog. |
04:10pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Good EFA article about the leaked blacklist. Links on to Nic's article about Criminal Sanctions article about the blacklist, which ends:
Unfortunately, this goes to show the limits of a secret blacklist for the democratic process. If Australians are not allowed to know what material is blocked and are not allowed to distribute lists when they are leaked, we will be completely unable to identify whether the proposed legislation is desirable or not. Informed commentary is necessary in a public system, and an assurance that the ACMA list is accurate and compiled in good faith is not sufficient without any evidence. A higher standard of accountability is required if Australian citizens are to have any input into the legislation that will affect what information they are allowed and able to access.Both documents worth a read. Join the EFA now! |
04:41pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Wasn't there something way back about a senate cross-bencher holding sanity to ransom. If he voted on some bill, the government would appease him by letting this madness continue ?
I am prolly wrong - but I am a victorian |
04:49pm 20/03/09 Permalink
Hilarity continues:
Wikileaks also reacted angrily to Conroy's suggestion that Australian Federal Police might be involved to track down the source of the leak. |
05:51pm 21/03/09 Permalink
Wow that sounds almost to good to be even imaginable.... I'd damn near give my left nut to see something like that happen.
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06:01pm 21/03/09 Permalink
So how does this Streisand Effect thing work with the Great Internet Firewall of China?
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08:00am 24/03/09 Permalink
Its kinda the reverse in china, if the govenment tells you to not look at something, you do it or get shot.
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09:02am 24/03/09 Permalink
A new list has been leaked
hilarity to ensue |
06:42pm 24/03/09 Permalink
The source of the blacklist revealed:
Wikileaks also published instructions for obtaining the blacklist by downloading the free trial of certain internet filtering software -- one of the Internet Industry Association's Family Friendly Filters and one of those provided free to (a few) Australian families by the Howard government's now defunct NetAlert scheme. Provided you're reasonably tech-savvy, you can extract a list of URLs with the rather unambiguous name "Websites_ACMA.txt". Depending on which version of the software you download, you get the August 2008 list as published, or something similar containing more recent material. Crikey article |
06:59pm 24/03/09 Permalink
