Mass Effect 2 Questions / Comments [spoilersss]
Didn't want to put this in the review thread because I have a question based on spoilers... you read it.
*****************************SPOILERSSSSSSSSSSSS**************************************************** OK someone who has finished the game tell me, if you upgrade your ship before going across the omega relay dealy, do any of your crew still die? kinda felt like a waste of time doing all those quests for the 3 guys that get their asses kicked. AND THEN JACOB DIES!? why do they kill the black guy?! anyway, i'm up to the last boss fight and to be honest i was nowhere near as impressed with the story as I was for me1. having said that, i'm expecting good things from me3, especially when all your decisions are moved across and apparently cause "epic changes" to how me3 is played. and why the hell does miranda have an aussie accent? and why does she use aussie slang/language? and why does the other guy have a deep south accent. it doesn't make sense. they're in the future why would they sound like skips and backwater yanks. anyway, rant over. what did you guys think? |
09:00am 02/02/10 Permalink
Nope. It's possible to finish the game with your whole team. I don't know the specifics but it's dependant on your ship upgrades as well as completing loyalty missions and then some of your choices and progress through the final battles.
Most awesome thing is that there's even an ending where the only survivors are Joker and EDI, nobody else; none of the crew, your party and not even Shepard - that'd make for an interesting 3rd game eh (lol 80 hours worth of walking around and climbing through ducts like a gimp while Tricia Helfer pays you out in a computer voice). |
09:28am 02/02/10 Permalink
The more upgrades and quests you do before the final mission the better your chances of more team members surviving.
Those who die in the final mission are based on who you send out in the various teams, and slight randomness. In my first play through Thane, Mordin, Zaeed and Samara died. I know how you feel about the story being lacklustre, the final boss made me wtf. The problem is there is no clear villain and too few main plot focused missions to build up the collectors. You can say the collectors are the villains, but there is no clear leader like there is in ME1. The collectors are just mindless grunts/troops like the geth in the first game. Miranda is voice by Yvonne Strahovski who is an Australian. As for the other guy (Jacob?) He likely is from southern USA. I think I remember Jacob saying he grew up in an American city. last edited by Lynx at 09:32:25 02/Feb/10 |
09:30am 02/02/10 Permalink
and why the hell does miranda have an aussie accent? and why does she use aussie slang/language?The actor is Australia (the chick from Chuck) and the game isn't set all that far into the future, there would still be plenty of territorial dialects. Your whinging might be better aimed at why Quarians speak with an Arabic accent. Also... it's not real. |
09:31am 02/02/10 Permalink
Also... it's not real. i'm aware of that danny boy, doesn't mean i'm not allowed to whine about it. most actors know how to put on accents; have you heard eric bana do his US accent (not including black hawk down)... or nicole kidman in some other movie. i'm not disagreeing with you- there are probably dialects in the future or whatever, but she's the only chick who sounds like a skip in the entire game. bit out of place. and i meant the illusive man with the deep south accent, sorry i forgot his name for a moment. seth green as joker is cool though. |
09:47am 02/02/10 Permalink
most actors know how to put on accents; have you heard eric bana do his US accent (not including black hawk down)... or nicole kidman in some other movie.Her character in Chuck has a US accent. Perhaps they just wanted her character to be unique and memorable in the game. Are you complaining about the Scottish engineer too? Personally, I think it's refreshing when not every character in a game is an American. |
10:01am 02/02/10 Permalink
on my play through only mordin died... which made me sad face.. i didnt have jacks loyality yet she somehow survived... i guess she was true to her word when she said in a firefight she has my back.. the rest of the time its nothing, i chose mordin to run through the tunnels, we got through ok, but when trying to close the door he got shot in the head... the rest of my crew survived...
IMO mordin was the best character... his rendition of Gilbert and Sullivan had me and the 6 year old roflmao. If i was to play through again i wouldnt do much different.. maybe send someone else into the tunnel knowing that there's a chance they might die... but i don't know who id chose.. i got really attached to all my characters. Also.. yeah full ship upgrades... if you don't have all the upgrades the sequence when you go through the omega 4 relay is different... also the attack by the collectors when they board your ship is apparently different as well. also note i had everyone's items upgraded as well... i believe that will also help with them surviving. |
10:06am 02/02/10 Permalink
Are you complaining about the Scottish engineer too? Personally, I think it's refreshing when not every character in a game is an American. nah i liked him, i thought he is an homage to scottie from star trek? i'm not a big trekkie fan so i'm not 100% sure. you're right that its refreshing, but to me having just three or four characters with a different accent makes them stand out too much. variety should be given to everyone, or noone imo. not scattered around halfheartedly. having said that, the voice acting is absolutely fantastic. maybe i just don't like australian accents lol- always reminds me of neighbours or home and away. |
10:24am 02/02/10 Permalink
I did as little as possible before the last mission, and yeah everyone dies except joker and of course EDI.
Unfortunately the savegame I had before the final mission is a few hours back, and I have other games to play so I'm not sure if I could be f***ed playing all the other content to get a better ending. |
10:25am 02/02/10 Permalink
I had two of them die (Mordin and Wrex), with every sidequest done and loyalty for everyone and all ship upgrades. I think it depends on who you choose, everytime I chose the person who would be best for the job, they survived, but Mordin for the engineer and Wrex for 2nd party leader both carked it. Going to try again sometime and see whether my theory is the case.
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11:28am 02/02/10 Permalink
On my game legion (F***, he is my 2nd fav character) jacob, mordin, grunt, jack and someone else died.
and i meant the illusive man with the deep south accent, sorry i forgot his name for a moment. Martin Sheen? Right now i'm starting a new game with Zaeed and am doing his side mission so he is loyal, then i'm gonna hit up a game of Infiltrator and do it all over again this time making sure that legion lives. Don't really give a crap about anyone else. |
12:04pm 02/02/10 Permalink
martin sheen!? is that who it is.
jeeez they have quite the cast. |
12:10pm 02/02/10 Permalink
from what i understand, who ever you pick as the tunnels guy, and second fire-team leader dies. i had thane and grunt. and they both died, i liked thane, but i knew he was dying anyways.
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01:22pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Did anyone download the zaeed DLC? its 500meg so i was thinking if its nothing big ill wait till my new month clocks over
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02:53pm 02/02/10 Permalink
It's a whole new character for your team and accompanying side missions.
Mass Effect 2 "Zaeed Massani" Trailer |
02:55pm 02/02/10 Permalink
looks good, has anyone tried it out?
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03:03pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Only person who died for me was Jack who wasn't loyal, Everybody was who loyal survived. Don't remember what team she was on though.
Did anyone download the zaeed DLC? its 500meg so i was thinking if its nothing big ill wait till my new month clocks over Its pretty average. The mission is both short and easy i found >.< |
03:09pm 02/02/10 Permalink
I'm replaying again as infiltrator with Geth Shield Boost bonus ability. Going full renegade and gonna bone kelly. Starting a new character after you have finished the game gives you 200,000 starting credits and 50,000 of each element to spend on stuff. Also gonna try and switch samara out
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03:32pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Oh that's handy to know DM. Might have to go through again.
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04:02pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Oh and those who have the Zaeed DLC, I highly recommend getting (through new game or the research ability) his inferno grenade ability. I only have 1 point in it so far and already I manage to set 3 - 5 people on fire with it so with 4 levels in it + the AoE branch it's gonna be a brutal skill.
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04:25pm 02/02/10 Permalink
thanks for the tip ! now i just need to work out why cerberus won't login :|
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04:51pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Widow Anti-Matter sniper cannon + infiltrator stealth + head shot tech upgrade = 1 hit kill for nearly everything, including harbringers. Even on Veteran difficulty. If you are playing as infiltrator you can get this rifle 1st play through. Any other class needs to wait until 2nd time around.
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09:34pm 02/02/10 Permalink
Only Grunt died when I attacked the Collectors :(
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09:54pm 02/02/10 Permalink
I lost Legion and Miranda which was s*** because I want both of them for the next game.
I had legion as the tech expert for the tunnels and he got skull f***ed by a rocket while closing the door, Miranda died after the end boss. CAST UNITY DAMN YOU! I was teaming up with Miranda a lot while on missions, I'd use her maxed out warp on my maxed out slam for a one-two punch that blew baddies up in mid air. Didn't have her at loyal but I don't think that should have effected the outcome. Can you save more crew if you go straight through the warp gate after your ship gets bordered? Whining about the Australian accent reminds me of Dragon Age and how some Americans were complaining that the Elves had "no accents". |
12:23am 03/02/10 Permalink
I caught grunt before he slid off, lol'ed a bit at holding up a krogan with one hand. Just that baddass I guess.
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12:27am 03/02/10 Permalink
I'm trying to work my renegade points up to get Morinth on my side. So far i've gotten like 3 bars full and still isn't enough but apparantlly need another 1/2 so off to do side missions and such. Was working Kelly to give her what for and I think I blew my chance as she has been abducted now and i'm busy doing other stuff so I can't rescue her. Guess i'll try for her 2nd play through. Most I got with her was inviting her to my cabin to talk. Bummer.
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12:58am 03/02/10 Permalink
the only way to make sure everyone survives the final mission is to do the following
1. do all ship upgrades (except the probe and medbay ones) (VITAL!!!!) 2. make sure all crew members are loyal (VITAL!!!!) 3. do as many armour and weapon upgrades as possible (isnt vital but helps your chances) 4 IMPORTANT make sure you do not do the reaper IFF mission untill you a ready to finish the game and when you do as soon as you are able to get on the collector ship you must do it (delaying it even by 1 mission will mean people WILL die and you can also lose non party normandy crew members like kelly or others) 5. and lastly make sure when you have to choose people to do things like lead teams or crawl through the vent make sure you choose the right people for the right jobs. (VITAL!!!!!) thats what i have learned from my 2 play through and im currently on my third in insane difficulty. also just to let you guys know any crew member is capable of dieing if you choose the wrong role for them in the last mission in my first play through i lost Thane,Grunt and jack. |
01:08am 03/02/10 Permalink
I'm trying to work my renegade points up to get Morinth on my side. So far i've gotten like 3 bars full and still isn't enough but apparantlly need another 1/2 so off to do side missions and such. Was working Kelly to give her what for and I think I blew my chance as she has been abducted now and i'm busy doing other stuff so I can't rescue her. Guess i'll try for her 2nd play through. Most I got with her was inviting her to my cabin to talk. Bummer. just remember if you do get morinth dont get her into bed lol !!! im not even kidding DO NOT get her into bed. |
01:12am 03/02/10 Permalink
Yes and no. You can only bed her after you finish the game so I hear, but then it doesn't really matter anyway.
I finished my infiltrator run on veteran so hitting it up yet again (3rd play through) with a new character. Can't decide what to pick now. Thinking maybe sentinel for some nifty stuff. Gonna suck using SMGs for 2/3rds of the game until I get sniper training but oh well. |
02:54am 03/02/10 Permalink
jesus i was glad to have finished the 1st play through... but you've done 3!? dedicated!
i guess i'll play through again to make sure noone dies. i wonder in mass effect 3 what the outcome is if u just start a new character. |
09:12am 03/02/10 Permalink
Very weird. i did every loyalty quest, but did end up losing the geth and jack loyalty because i didnt have the renegade points to stop their arguments without taking a side. I also got every ship upgrade and 95% (only missing sniper dmg upgrade) of the personal upgrades.
By the end of the last mission (on hardcore), Tali died (i sent her through the vents and she got owned when trying to close the door) grunt got eaten by little bugs as we were running away, and samara died after i chose her to stay behind and defend the door. All of these guys were loyal. WTF :( Jack also died right at the end (that was expected as i lost her loyalty) It seems pretty random as to who survives. I literally couldnt do much more in terms of upgrades. I was already level 24 at that time as well. |
06:04pm 08/02/10 Permalink
Oh also my whole crew died because i told them to run back to the ship by themselves. Maybe i wont do that next time :P
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07:48pm 08/02/10 Permalink
I'll elaborate since I was on the bus when I typed that, I won't say this is how you do it, this is just what I did and it just happened to work for me first time.
I had loyalty for everyone, I could have gone through the Omega 4 relay earlier but I did a few side missions and Legion's loyalty mission after I did the reaper IFF mission. I had my ship completely upgraded sans the fuel and probe upgrades, I had a fair few other various upgrades too, but none of the weapons completely upgraded. for the first bit I had Garrus head up the other team and sent tali through the ducts, I sent Zaeed back with the survivors and the next bit I had samara be my biotic guide and miranda headed up the other team, last bit I took miranda and jack in with me while everyone else covered our exit. |
07:52pm 08/02/10 Permalink
Sounds like everything i did, even had more weapon upgrades. sent tali in as well. we just changed up the people we sent to lead each group, each of them were loyal.
oh wells, seems abit random :/ makes no difference once you go through your 2nd playthrough |
12:41am 09/02/10 Permalink
I just had Jack and Legion die.
It didn't bother me because I didn't use either |
02:51am 09/02/10 Permalink
What difficulty did the people who had very few or no deaths at all play on? Maybe it depends on how fast you get through the level. This would make sense for Samara (I told her to lead the group that met us on the other side of a door) seeing as I played it on hardcore and was held up for a little bit of time because of Harbinger. Tali dying (sent her through the vents) could also be attributed to time, as she was whinging about being cooked alive; i think at one point her bar went to the red.
Oh well, thats probably going to happen again on insanity for the 2nd playthrough. Which im finding not that fun. Sure you take more dmg and enemies take longer to kill but you just up spending most of your time behind a wall waiting for shields to recharge. Also curious as to what happens if you didn't upgrade your ship (guns and armor) before heading into the omega relay. How does it handle the collector ship that comes out to intercept? I assume you lose a member or 2 during transit? |
03:30am 09/02/10 Permalink
Finished my run through on Hardcore (or whatever is before insanity).
Vanguard Shepherd. Full loyalty of all crew members. Full SR2 upgrades All of the weapon upgrades. 1) Miranda lead fire team one. 2) Tali through vent 3) Grunt to escort survivors back to SR2. 4) Garrus Fire Team two. 5) Jack for biotic. 6) Did not choose anybody to stay behind at the door. I ended up losing Moridin, which sucks, because I liked Moridin. Everybody else survived. |
09:06am 09/02/10 Permalink
I finished on hardest initial difficulty.
Infiltrator Shepherd shield, armour & gun Normandy upgrades random other team upgrades all team members loyal headed to suicide mission as soon as crew were abducted 1) Garrus lead fire team 1 2) Tali in vents (and opened gates in time for her) 3) Grunt did survivor escort (incl Kelly) 4) Garrus lead fire team 2 5) Samara as my biotic shield 6) Told the rest of the team to hang back and cover us outcome: all survived. |
09:37am 09/02/10 Permalink
How high do you need your Paragon/Renegade to stop losing loyalty during team arguments between Jack/Miranda and Tali/Legion? My first play through was a soldier which I'd had enough of so I created a new adept character instead of playing again on the first and I've been pretty even keel with my paragon/renegade responses which has me worried about not having enough in one to maintain loyalty.
It kinda pisses me off that you get penalised for playing a rough and ready hero type character in just about every Bioware game. I thought that by now they would realise that their system goes against the hero type most of us grew up with like John McClain or Indiana Jones/Han Solo. |
10:09am 09/02/10 Permalink
... but John McClane, Indiana Jones & Han Solo all got penalised in their movies for acting thus...
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10:19am 09/02/10 Permalink
yeah deadlyf you're going to be screwed since you went half/half. It is kind of dumb.
Any: How did you save kelly? She kind of just melted in the case when i found her lol. We even had dinner together! |
02:08pm 09/02/10 Permalink
just gotta go rescue the crew as soon as you can. If you do any form of mission in between them being captured & you going through the Omega mass relay then she's gonna get ugly.
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02:41pm 09/02/10 Permalink
poor kelly.
has anyone played with their ME1 character where the krogran doesn't die? if you go to the krogan homeworld is he there? |
03:02pm 09/02/10 Permalink
Wrex is there, yep. |
01:28am 10/02/10 Permalink
