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Post by KostaAndreadis @ 03:27pm 22/06/17 | 10 Comments
Earlier this year ZeniMax managed to win a $500 million outcome on its lawsuit against the Facebook-owned Oculus for illegally using its VR technology. A staggering amount of money, offset by the equally staggering fact that for Facebook that figure isn't enough to cause any major damage to its brand. But, that's just the opening salvo as ZeniMax are looking to block sales of Oculus Rifts or impose a 10-year 20% royalty fee. Plus, increase the damages to... 1 billion dollars.

Bonus points if you read that last bit in the voice of Dr. Evil.

According to the latest developments, thanks to ArsTechnica.

US District Judge Ed Kinkeade of the Southern District of Texas heard arguments in that injunction case Tuesday, and he also addressed a ZeniMax request for an additional $500 million in false designation damages and lawyer's fees. In court filings, ZeniMax argues that "the jury verdict clearly establishes that Oculus wrongly obtained ZeniMax VR technology under the NDA and used it... to establish a business that would not have existed without ZeniMax."


In its defense Oculus points to the fact that ZeniMax currently doesn't offer any products that directly compete with the Rift, and that because the original events that led to the current situation happened years ago, well, its too late. Plus, it claims that ZeniMax hasn't been able to offer any evidence of current Oculus source code that infringes on the early code that the jury found to infringe on ZeniMax's copyright.

And to think, we didn't know if we'd ever be able to run on our go-to Oculus header pic.




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Hogfather
Posted 03:37pm 22/6/17
It its defence Oculus points to the fact that ZeniMax currently doesn't offer any products that directly compete with the Rift, and that because the original events that led to the current situation happened years ago, well, its too late.

IANAL but I don't think that's how IP works.
KostaAndreadis
Posted 03:43pm 22/6/17
Yeah, it sounds like a strategy that might hold up in the people's court. Perhaps they can take the case to Judge Judy...
Raven
Posted 03:46pm 22/6/17
If reports on what actually happened in court are true and how completely out of their depth both the judge and jury was are also true, then this just adds to how f***ed the whole case is.
ravn0s
Posted 04:23pm 22/6/17
i wonder why valve hasn't gone after oculus/facebook yet.
notgreazy
Posted 04:53pm 22/6/17

IANAL but I don't think that's how IP works.

IANAL too but this might be their defence against their products being blocks. I'm guessing if code they stole is used in a product that directly competes with ZeniMax, then that could be used to block OR's current products. But if the code was used in a product that is NOT competing, then maybe ZeniMax doesn't have a case.
trog
Posted 08:03pm 24/6/17
The whole thing is such a s****how. It seems totally bizarre that, given everything was on the line, that no due diligence was done during FB's acquisition phase that would have caught this stuff.
notgreazy
Posted 08:17pm 24/6/17
The whole thing is such a s****how. It seems totally bizarre that, given everything was on the line, that no due diligence was done during FB's acquisition phase that would have caught this stuff.

Maybe this is exactly why they screwed up. I feel like Facebook went through a stage where it was gobbling up companies, really big companies, too quickly for its own good. Of course all of that created this mess imo
trillion
Posted 07:52am 26/6/17
the problem still remains with VR that the right kind of content and story telling experience, the likes of something similar to when you played Half Life 2, hasn't and might never happen with this technology

there has been stagnation in this for a while and a lot of promotion of mediocrity to compensate

the problem for legals is that a company like Facebook, founded on a strategy of idea theft at the right time to take advantage of it first, only really exists because of the exploitation of our sense of the need to connect

Zenimax are acting like the RCA of the time versus some new and potentially progressive technology called Television that they lost the control of
Khel
Posted 11:34am 26/6/17
Would be a shame if this goes through and sinks Oculus or something, I recently got my hands on a Rift and its a really nice piece of kit, I'm more onboard with VR now after trying it out myself, its more than the gimmick I had assumed it'd be. But yeah, it doesn't really have its 'killer app' yet, I guess its hard to expect triple A games companies to concentrate on making purely VR games considering the still relatively tiny install base.
trog
Posted 07:02pm 26/6/17
^^ Yup. I think it could even take something like Valve coming out and saying "HL3 is going to be a VR-only game" to really drive the kind of adoption that they need to be a success. I can't think of many games that would make me feel like I had to have a new device for but that might be one.
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