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Post by KostaAndreadis @ 01:14pm 11/01/16 | 32 Comments
As of now the PC version of Just Cause 3 remains un-cracked. That is, there isn't an illegal free version of the game out there to download. The reasons why this is the case is due to the Denuvo’s Anti-Tamper technology the game employs, which is built around preventing hacks to the game files themselves. That may not sound all that impressive but in a rare turn of events a Chinese hacker group (3DM) has gone out of its way to state that trying to bypass this security is extremely difficult and could even lead to a time without cracked software.

That is, for titles that choose to implement these sorts of measures. Popular peer news site TorrentFreak posted a translation from 3DM forum founder 'Bird Sister',

"Recently, many people have asked about cracks for ‘Just Cause 3′, so here is a centralized answer to this question. The last stage is too difficult and Jun [cracking guy] nearly gave up, but last Wednesday I encouraged him to continue. I still believe that this game can be compromised. But according to current trends in the development of encryption technology, in two years time I’m afraid there will be no free games to play in the world."


For those that are aware of the illegal PC software scene will know that this is not the first time that a popular title has been absent from the black market. Whenever a new form of copy protection showed up, sometimes it took a little while before a crack would appear. In a way it sort of became a game in itself, with the challenge posed to hackers. "Try and crack this." Denuvo’s Anti-Tamper technology is proving to be the most elusive method yet, as last year's FIFA release for PC (an immensely popular game among both legitimate software buyers and illegal downloaders) took six months to crack.

But, the feature is a costly one to implement.

Copy protection for PC has a long a storied history, with many ups and downs (cough, SecuROM, cough), and as we all know, in addition to companies and publishers employing more sophisticated copy protection measures, there is also a burgeoning DRM-free movement. With platforms like GOG.com and even publishers like Bethesda giving little to no credence to copy protection as a means to protecting their products from pirates, the future of digital distribution remains as elusive as ever.



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Meddek
Posted 04:11pm 11/1/16
Developers/Publishers need to go back to releasing demos of their products, I know the whole Alpha/Beta is basically the demo these days but not everyone does that method.

I've "illegally" downloaded games to see how they run on my PC and if it's something I would enjoy then go and buy it. If I can't try the product first I might not buy it at all, I know Steam offer refunds now but do they offer a refund because of a change of mind?
Hogfather
Posted 04:34pm 11/1/16
With platforms like GOG.com and even publishers like Bethesda giving little to no credence to copy protection as a means to protecting their products from pirates, the future of digital distribution remains as elusive as ever.

I don't think its really elusive. Opaque maybe, but its not like the future is difficult to find, catch, or achieve. S*** shows up right on time, actually almost like clockwork.

On topic, to me this is a good thing. Right or wrong, the people who make decisions about platform releases often use the day-0 insecurity of the PC as a reason not to go there. We can (and should) vote with our feet for our favourite DRM platform or roll DRM-free, but playing games you haven't bought isn't cool.

Lots of demos and free weekends and s*** on Steam and other platforms, and lots of ways to get to see how a game plays these days as reviewers literally beg for your likes, views and subs on the youtubes. Steam will give you a refund if an occasional game is still s*** after you carefully checked reviews and watched some gameplay. I don't think that the 'but I need to try it before I buy it' excuse is really valid for piracy, *especially* on PC.
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If you tell yourself that you download a game to 'test' it then you're probably doing that cognitive dissonance thing, especially if you think of it as "illegally".
notgreazy
Posted 04:21pm 11/1/16
I thought it was odd that the chinese group 3DM was quoted. Turns out those guys are pros:

By late 2015, FIFA 15, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Lords of the Fallen, Batman: Arkham Knight and Battlefield Hardline were all cracked by an Italian warez group called CPY (CONSPIRACY). Mad Max and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain were later cracked by 3DM.

It's been a month since it's release, it's probably gonna be cracked very soon.

details of software:
The group claimed that the technology involves a "64-bit encryption machine" that requires cryptographic keys unique to the specific hardware of each installed system.[3]
Meddek
Posted 05:00pm 11/1/16

If you tell yourself that you download a game to 'test' it then you're probably doing that cognitive dissonance thing, especially if you think of it as "illegally".


I honestly buy most of my games for console these days as they seem to play better, The Witcher 3 was actually had to pirate a game to test it on my PC and I ended up buying it twice once for my PS4 and PC, I was just using an example that if developers want to lock their games down tight which I support they have every right to and I'm sick of seeing developers go broke because of poor sales even thought their game is a smash hit. But in my opinion they need to offer something so consumers like me who don't have a top of the range PC can give their product a test first, I don't want to fork out $50+ for a game that may or may not play.

But again you're right Steam have free weekends but these are normally after the game has released and as per you're quote they offer refunds for any reason.
Hogfather
Posted 05:26pm 11/1/16
The Witcher 3 was actually had to pirate a game to test it on my PC ... But in my opinion they need to offer something so consumers like me who don't have a top of the range PC can give their product a test first, I don't want to fork out $50+ for a game that may or may not play.

You didn't need to pirate the Witcher 3 on your PC, you chose to because you wanted to. It wasn't "illegal", you broke the law 100% and could have been pursued by rights holders for it.

While it is vanishingly remotely likely that you would get nailed for it, you probably should be aware that you are committing crimes and not be making excuses to yourself for it.
Meddek
Posted 05:31pm 11/1/16
Yeah I'm well aware, but I also bought it twice.

Probably a s*** example to justify it but if the game is could I would go and buy it, if it's a hunk of s*** I forget about it. AKA Aliens Colonial Marines
FSCB
Posted 05:37pm 11/1/16
Do these clowns put as much effort into cracking console games as they do to PC games?

Because doing this for PC is a great reason for the PC now being the peasant-gaming platform.
We get a lot of s*** console ports not just because the PC market is a lot smaller, but also because the few PC sales that are made are in contrast to the many copies that are pirated.
Many companies just can't be bothered dealing with this when you have a huge console market where kids generally just get mum to fork out the $100 for a game.
Meddek
Posted 05:40pm 11/1/16
Do these clowns put as much effort into cracking console games as they do to PC games?

Because doing this for PC is a great reason for the PC now being the peasant-gaming platform.
We get a lot of s*** console ports not just because the PC market is a lot smaller, but also because the few PC sales that are made are in contrast to the many copies that are pirated.
Many companies just can't be bothered dealing with this when you have a huge console market where kids generally just get mum to fork out the $100 for a game.


To play a cracked console game you'd need a cracked console, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo can pick up on this if it's connected to an active internet connection and can remote brick it? So I suppose they don't need to.
Khel
Posted 05:52pm 11/1/16
The thing with consoles is you're not just cracking DRM on a game, you basically need to crack the DRM in the hardware. Then even if you manage to do that, anyone else who wants to take advantage of pirated games also has to go and make physical hardware modifications to their console before they're able to play any pirated games.

Compare that to a PC where once its cracked, all you need to do is download and run an executable, and its easy to see why piracy runs more rampant on PC's than consoles. Its an accessibility thing more than anything else at the end of the day. Piracy was pretty rampant on the Dreamcast because all you had to do was burn the cd in a special way and you could play pirated games, no mods necessary, even someone with very little knowledge could download and burn a pirated Dreamcast game to play on their console. Most consoles since then though its been a lot less accessible.

Tbh these days the reason I don't pirate games isn't even because I feel strongly that its wrong, its just because it has become so easy to buy them and do it all above board and legit. Especially in the days of online features, dlc and constant patches, its just too much of a pain in the ass pirating a game when I can snag a cheap steam key from a website and let Steam do all the work for me.
Raven
Posted 06:08pm 11/1/16
I don't know much about Just Cause, so tell me - does the DRM in this game have any negative effects like those which have caused even legitemate owners headaches in the past - like the days of SecuROM, Starforce and SafeDisc?
FSCB
Posted 11:28pm 11/1/16
So basically these guys are hacking PC, the noob training ground for game hackers.
Finally they get a challenge and so now he says "there will soon no longer be free games for the world". WTF? Just sounds like classic Chinese mentality of copying the s*** out of anything and everything. Not like they are poor or anything...they have a Pc after all. We aren't talking about a bloke working his butt off in a factory.

I would have thought that pirating pc games is pointless unless for pure single player games. All big title MP games etill require a legitimate log on with steam origin etc.
Enska
Posted 05:13am 12/1/16
ITT FSCB has no f*****g clue but proceeds to school us all on the inner workings of piracy.
Spook
Posted 06:43am 12/1/16
ITT FSCB has no f*****g clue but proceeds to school us all on the inner workings of piracy.


lolz, was bout to post something similar.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 12:22pm 12/1/16

Developers/Publishers need to go back to releasing demos of their products, I know the whole Alpha/Beta is basically the demo these days but not everyone does that method.



That's because their games are often buggy on release due to being rushed in the last quarter or so to get out the door by a specific date. They wouldn't want a buggy demo out to let people know about the bugs before buying.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 12:28pm 12/1/16
I download games because I can't afford them all, and I really like to enjoy the art of the game (not the graphical art). The art of the mechanics and how the game comes together and plays out. I can't get that from let's play or reviews or whatever.
So yeah, I know it's stealing. I wasn't going to pay for it anyway so no money is lost at least. Most of the time I don't go past a couple hours of playtime.

I have also occasionally bought a game that I initially downloaded because I did put some solid hours into it. I've also 'bought' games that are free for the same reason.

You can call it what you want, but my conscious is clear. It's nice to have flexible morals.
Enska
Posted 01:10pm 12/1/16
I think that's a pretty s*** reasoning with the oodles of sales and deals going on these days. but meh, I do coke every weekend and that s**** illegal too.
notgreazy
Posted 01:31pm 12/1/16
I think that's a pretty s*** reasoning with the oodles of sales and deals going on these days. but meh, I do coke every weekend and that s**** illegal too.

That escalated Very quickly.

Both things are not something you admit to online.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 05:28pm 12/1/16
I buy games on steam sale too.

You may think it is s*** reasoning, but people do all sorts of stuff that I think is s*** reasoning. Like watching cricket or something.
Enska
Posted 07:49pm 12/1/16
Both things are not something you admit to online.


why, you gonna call the overwhelmingly present internet dept of the police and tell on me are you?

its ok Toll, that was my point.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:32pm 12/1/16
I know, it was my point too. So we agree.
Tepid
Posted 10:23pm 15/1/16
the cyberpolice have been informed - the consequences will never be the same
Obes
Posted 09:12pm 17/1/16
As of now the PC version of Just Cause 3 remains un-cracked. That is, there isn't an illegal free version of the game out there to download.

Or maybe no one wants to play it?
Acording to VGCharts it's up there with
Twisted Metal 4
Manhunt PS2
Silent Hill 2
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

From 15 to 20 years ago.
Or did ausgamers give it a 9.5?
BladeRunner
Posted 06:21am 18/1/16
I do it. I have no qualms about it.

I bought JC3 but i should have not bothered.

the consequences will never be the same
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notgreazy
Posted 06:57pm 22/1/16

why, you gonna call the overwhelmingly present internet dept of the police and tell on me are you?
its ok Toll, that was my point.

What if, like you know, someone traces who you are and gets you fired because of what youre saying here.

Are you 100% sure this account isn't somehow linked somewhere else? or that someone on here knows your real name?
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:32pm 22/1/16
Undoubtedly, would I get fired for it? Absolutely not.
Enska
Posted 02:19pm 23/1/16
haha. really?
your a strange person greazy.
Hogfather
Posted 03:51pm 23/1/16
* you're
baz
Posted 12:03am 25/1/16
I can recount about 4 times you have said you do coke....for no reason....

which is weird cos you are really boring.
Enska
Posted 01:14pm 25/1/16
ta hoggy.
I've probably said it more than that, it's my chance to look cool on the internet, and wow boring? you hurt me so with the brutal assessment.
notgreazy
Posted 01:18pm 25/1/16
Undoubtedly, would I get fired for it? Absolutely not.

I think Hermitech got fired after someone found a picture of him holding a knife and grinning like an idiot. It was just for fun yet he got fired. But all of my comments are directed to Enska. Now it's on the internet for ever.
Enska
Posted 01:58pm 25/1/16
what's boring is this f*****g thread.
I'm sorry greazy but I couldn't give two s**** if its on the internet forever. can we leave it now? or should we now discuss the fact that luls its on the internet and Enska isn't worried!?!?
koopz
Posted 12:28am 26/1/16
...the best cracks are made by ex-employees who whore themselves out after they get fired for much needed money.


no one ever expects to get fired - you'd react the same yourself
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