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Post by Eorl @ 09:57am 14/06/13 | 25 Comments
After the recent shuttering of Warhammer MMO Dark Millennium Online, it was only a matter of time before another keen developer jumped at the lore-rich universe and tried their hands at creating a new MMO. It just so happens such a thing has been announced, with Games Workshop and Behaviour Interactive revealing Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade for 2015.

The MMO wlll launch as a free-to-play title, offering four different races for players to play which include Orks, Space Marines (Dark Angels), Chaos Space Marines (Iron Warriors) and Eldar. While it is free-to-play, the only race available to those playing for free will be the Orks, a different take on the payment spin.

According to a very informative writeup with MMORPG.com, Behaviour Interactive are claiming that a band of five Orks are needed to take down one Space Marine, ensuring that the balance between free-to-play and paid subscriptions are kept evenly.

Eternal Crusade will play out as a third-person, over-the-shoulder perspective and players will take the battle to the Tyranids, an AI-controlled race that will offer a number of PvE interests to players, but may also influence some PvP elements. Those looking for the art of war will be happy to know that Eternal Crusade's biggest focus is PvP.
All of this: the fight between the four player controlled factions and the fifth wild-card known as the Tyranids rages on for three months. At the end, a winner is decided by overall territorial control and dominance, and the battle shifts from that planet to a brand new one (fresh and ripe for the picking). The new world may have a completely different ecosystem, new resources, new layout, and all of that to fight over. Think of it like competitive “seasons” in any sport. What’s the point of a war if no one wins? And that’s the philosophy behind having a campaign system in Eternal Crusade.
Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade is currently looking at opening up beta in 18 months time, with the launch of the game coming in at around 24 months time for the year 2015. Interestingly it will be launching not only for PC, but also for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

Check out the official website where you can sign yourself up for war, or jump over to MMORPG's recent writeup for more on what is to come, and stay tuned for further details.



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Taipan
Posted 10:08am 14/6/13
Well I really hope they knock this out of the park and do a good job of it. I will be very pissed if they f*** it up.
Khel
Posted 10:15am 14/6/13
What’s the point of a war if no one wins?


There doesn't need to be a point! In the grim, dark future of the 41st millenium there is ONLY war.
arkter
Posted 11:38am 14/6/13
keen.
Malthius
Posted 12:08pm 14/6/13
Sounds awful. Who wants to be one of the 80% of the F2P players that die to take down a paying customer? Oh look, there are only four of us tightass players here, guess we can't kill Moneybags McRichSpaceMarine.
paveway
Posted 12:15pm 14/6/13
man i love the idea of a warhammer 40k mmo, i'm not an mmo player but the idea done well would be awesome as the lore behind warhammer is some of the best

i'd gladly pay to play as dark angels as i collected a dark angels table army back in the day
Eorl
Posted 12:18pm 14/6/13
I could see it working well IF the free-to-play Orks race are able to access everything that subscription races can, i.e PvE and PvP elements. I would hope that the only restrictions are the race, and that the Orks require a Waaagh! to take down other races.
Gloth
Posted 01:25pm 14/6/13
high hopes for this one.

not a lot of point speculating on the pricing structure of a game so far from release.
reload!
Posted 02:48pm 14/6/13
warhammer is awesome but so neckbeard
paveway
Posted 03:22pm 14/6/13
pretty much reload, i suspect it is a very guilty little secret some of us hold about being fans of it in one aspect or another

video games aren't so bad, hanging around the stores at shopping centres is about as neckbeard as it gets
Khel
Posted 03:27pm 14/6/13
I'm pretty much an unashamedly huge geek and love a bit of 40k, but even I can't bring myself to go hang out in the stores and play there =\

Used to be a group of 4 or 5 of us when I was in melbourne who'd get together and play sometimes at someones house, that was fun cos there was usually beer and it was just muckaround fun, not being taken too seriously.
arkter
Posted 03:39pm 14/6/13
I'm pretty much an unashamedly huge geek and love a bit of 40k, but even I can't bring myself to go hang out in the stores and play there =\Used to be a group of 4 or 5 of us when I was in melbourne who'd get together and play sometimes at someones house, that was fun cos there was usually beer and it was just muckaround fun, not being taken too seriously.


+1 used to play about 7 or 8 years ago, the last time I played in the shop one of the staff matched me up with a 12yo kid who cried when I beat him, the other option was the 'mature gamers' night which was like playing with nazis... not much fun at all.

I bought some models and paint not long ago though, enjoying painting them up again. Not sure if I will get back into the gaming side of things, to be enjoyed it would have to be in one of those mates + beers situations.
Fish
Posted 12:12am 15/6/13
a band of five Orks are needed to take down one Space Marine

coupled with:
the only race available to those playing for free will be the Orks

pretty much means pay 2 win
Khel
Posted 12:20am 15/6/13
Yeah, I still dunno what to think about that, cos on the one hand its a pretty weak free to play offering, but on the other hand it actually stands to set things up the way they should be, with hordes of orcs and comparitively fewer Space Marines.
Mosfx
Posted 07:39am 15/6/13
I liked Warhammer online I just wish it had more support, the F2P idea is a good concept and I'd be interested to see how to stacks up
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:27am 15/6/13
I really wanted to play 40K when I was younger, however the intuitive mathsman in my head said, 'No I forbid it, this game starts of expensive then quickly gets more expensive, for no apparent reason. They are mostly plastic models...'

WarHammer 40K tabeltop is almost Pay-2-Win, so the MMO should be the same right ;)

On a side note, I wonder how strong the 3D printed illicit Warhammer figurine market is going?
Khel
Posted 12:32pm 15/6/13
Yeah, thats why playing with friends is better, cos you can just sub stuff in and pretend its something else instead of having to go out and buy every model for everything. When you play with people who are super anal about the rules that s*** doesn't fly, they want everything to be modelled accurately, even down to every weapon the unit carries has to be modelled on the model, but we just used to do s*** like "See this lego spaceship? Ok thats now a blood angels storm raven".

But yeah, 3d printing would rock for that
Eorl
Posted 12:44pm 15/6/13
pretty much means pay 2 win

Considering the universe structures it so Orks HAVE to band together to do anything kind of makes it reasonable. If one Ork was able to take down a Space Marine I would actually label it as a failure to the Warhammer name.
Fish
Posted 05:07pm 15/6/13
True, Orks have to outnumber the Space Marines to win. But there are better (and more fun) ways than filling those ranks with freebie players.
Gloth
Posted 05:57pm 15/6/13
If its good I don't mind paying for it.
arkter
Posted 09:28am 17/6/13
On a side note, I wonder how strong the 3D printed illicit Warhammer figurine market is going?


Terrible for anything but tanks, they can't get the detail/smoothness right just yet.
Malthius
Posted 03:00pm 17/6/13
Eorl: Just have the player Ork be a Warboss that is followed by 4-6 or so NPC Orks. Oh look, I made it fair and fun at the same time!
Khel
Posted 04:00pm 17/6/13
Except theres only one Warboss. And a warboss would wipe the floor one on one with a spare marine anyway, so thats just making it unfair the other way.

Its kind of impossible really to turn it into a game thats fair 1 on 1 because its not designed to be played 1 on 1 or be fair in that situation. Its meant to be squad on squad.
Eorl
Posted 04:48pm 17/6/13
Eorl: Just have the player Ork be a Warboss that is followed by 4-6 or so NPC Orks. Oh look, I made it fair and fun at the same time!
Yeah as Khel said, doesn't quite work sadly. The way the Warhammer universe is set up makes it entirely impossible to have just one Ork taking down one Space Marine. To do so would bend the lore and you would get an abomination that the hardcore fans would not touch.

Honestly, if they do it right and make it so the free-to-play aspect is simply you get the Ork race and get access to everything else like say Rift, it will do perfectly fine. However if they limit what free-to-play users can access in regards to PvE and PvP then it will take tank hard.
taggs
Posted 06:06pm 17/6/13
Except theres only one Warboss. And a warboss would wipe the floor one on one with a spare marine anyway, so thats just making it unfair the other way.


OK, so the player wouldn't be a Warboss. Instead the player would be a Nob or something and would have several companions similar to SW:TOR but could have more than 1 active. I mean, it's not like they haven't had to deal with this issue before. DOW2 has 4 character squads from different races that are all broadly comparable in powers and abilities and the lore didn't seem to implode.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me although I am not the most hardcore of 40k nerds (my 40k nerd-dom is moderate at best).

Honestly, if they do it right and make it so the free-to-play aspect is simply you get the Ork race and get access to everything else like say Rift, it will do perfectly fine. However if they limit what free-to-play users can access in regards to PvE and PvP then it will take tank hard.


I have to admit I'm pretty skeptical. The biggest cost when playing an MMO isn't your money, it's the time you need to put into it. Do you really think that a significant proportion of the game's playerbase (i.e. ork players) will happily sink comparable amounts of time into a character as other races only to end up with a relatively very under-powered character?

I reckon Malthius' concept is much more workable than the proposed concept.

Very happy to be proven wrong though, I'd love a good 40k MMO.
Fish
Posted 10:59pm 17/6/13
Terrible for anything but tanks, they can't get the detail/smoothness right just yet.

I'd say that hobby printers are almost there
http://davedurant.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/ultimaker-faq-but-what-about-the-quality-of-prints/
Infact, that post was about 2 years ago.

Granted, you'd need to fine tune your printer to get results like that. I've got comparable results with my printer.
Just do that and add a coat of primer to fill the gaps and you're good.

Only issue with most stock setups is getting a decent sharp edge. You'd need to use a 0.25mm nozzle to get sharp looking edges at that scale.
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