From the
official website of Star Wars: The Old Republic comes this announcement about early access starting in the next few days:
Early Game Access* for Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is only a few days away! Starting December 13, 2011, The Old Republic will begin emailing invitations to start your Early Game Access. Invitations will be sent throughout the Early Game Access period offering rolling access to the game in the order in which you redeemed your Pre-Order Code, so be sure to check your email inbox!
To ensure that players can get into the game as quickly as possible when their Early Game Access begins, we are now allowing everyone who has redeemed a Pre-Order Code at our Code Redemption Center to pre-load the game to their computer.
In order to download the game client before Early Game Access begins, you need have already logged into your account and redeemed your Pre-Order Code. Once you have done this, you can download the game client by clicking on “My Account” in the upper-right of the window and then click “Pre-Order.” On your Pre-Order page, click the large button that says “Download Game Client” to begin download of the game!
While Australians are still suffering under the mystery of what is happening with the local release it seems many people are going to be happy to import this one and get into the game as soon as possible rather than waiting for EA to sort out what is going on over here.
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is there any way to see what your approximate place in the 'queue' for early access is?
edit: 27gb client!? :O
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Posted 10:32am 08/12/11
there goes your summer.
absolutely chuffed. can't wait for this.
Posted 10:34am 08/12/11
Posted 10:38am 08/12/11
It looked bad but everybody apparently likes it, damn tempting KotOR'yness... >_>
Posted 10:43am 08/12/11
Is it wrong to want to kill you out of jealousy?
Posted 10:45am 08/12/11
"If I pre-order Star Wars: The Old Republic but don’t purchase or obtain the full version of the Game, may I continue to play past the Early Game Access period?
The Game officially launches on December 20th, 2011 at 12:01AM EST (Pacific: December 19th, 9:01PM PST; European: December 20th, 05:01AM GMT, 06:01AM CET). There will be no ‘grace period’ post launch in which those who are in Early Game Access will be able to continue to play the Game without completing the following required steps for launch:
1. Fill out your contact information
2. Set up minimum 3 - maximum 5 security questions to protect your SWTOR account
3. Redeem a Product Registration Code (This is different from your Pre-Order Code. Your Product Registration Code is the code tied to the official Game.)
4. Sign up for a recurring subscription or enter a Pre-Paid Game Time Code
You will have the option of completing these steps during the Early Game Access period so that you are ready to play upon the Game’s official launch."
No Grace period which flies in the face of what we have been told since July...by mr Stephen Reid...
"There will be a period after launch day in which those who have pre-ordered will be able to continue playing before entering their Game Code. More information on this will be made available closer to launch."
-Steven Reid
And US Amazon is apparently sticking with it's 21st to the 29th delivery date even though the European Amazons are stating they will ship the game on the 15th of December.
Alot of rage generated by these updates...
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I will try it from a web/key store.
Posted 11:22am 08/12/11
Posted 11:31am 08/12/11
No point getting all bent out of shape over it....things can still change....Amazon could send it out around the 15th, there still might be a grace period or Bioware may reinstate one due to the outcry of them not having one....
just my 2 cents...
Posted 11:32am 08/12/11
Oh well, just means I'll have to wait a week or two ... no hair off my back. s*** happens.
besides, leading up to christmas, i wouldn't have as much time to play anyway.
Posted 11:47am 08/12/11
Either way, this is a pretty poor move - if someone has a preorder code at least enable them to play for a week or two prior to kill it.
Posted 11:51am 08/12/11
If so, I'm sure Amazon mentioned when I was buying my copy that they would send me the CD key electronically at launch date.
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Posted 12:07pm 08/12/11
As does CDkey Warehouse, https://cdkeys.com.au/products/Star-Wars%3A-The-Old-Republic%252b-Early-Access.html
Posted 12:13pm 08/12/11
heh even if amazon ships it on the 15th, we probably still wont get it until after the new year.
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Delivery Estimate: January 4, 2012 - January 17, 2012
haha f*** you amazon
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ending is lol
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Can't. It asks for a US address, and checks your card I think. Just kept coming up with errors.
Posted 06:03pm 08/12/11
some people in the whirlpool thread claim to have done it.
Posted 06:06pm 08/12/11
Posted 06:11pm 08/12/11
It's not on Origin.
On another note if you played the last set of betas and kept the install just update, loader won't log you into the game. I read via the SWTOR forums that you should check your game folder and find the retailclient_swtor.version file, if you have this you will be fine to play at the start (will post a link if I find it).
Posted 09:17pm 08/12/11
In preparation for the official release of Star Wars: The Old Republic, we wanted to make sure that everyone has the correct game client installed on their machine.
If you participated in our Game Testing Program before November 25th, we recommend that you uninstall the game testing client (refer to instructions below) and then download and install the launch game client. We’ll update this post with more instructions when they’re available. You will need 27GB of free space to install the launch game client. The actual size of the game client is approximately 19GB (without additional languages installed).
If you have played in our game testing program at any point from November 25th onwards, you will not need to re-install the game client, as you should already have the launch version installed.
To verify that you have the launch version installed, you can check for the "assets_swtor_main" version file in the following location on your computer: \Program Files (x86)\EA\BioWare\Star Wars – The Old Republic (assuming default installation). If you have that file present, you do not need to reinstall the game client.
With that said, some users may notice that their game client folder is much larger than 27 GB on their system. This may be due to having redundant files from previous versions of the client. If you need to clear up space, we recommend completely uninstalling the client and downloading and installing the launch game client. Again, we’ll update this post with more instructions when they’re available.
To Uninstall the Game Client:
Click on the Start bar and open up your "Control Panel."
Under "Programs" select "Uninstall a Program" (Windows 7) or "Add or Remove Programs" (Windows XP).
Select "Star Wars – The Old Republic."
Right Click on the title and select "Uninstall" (Windows 7) or "Remove" (Windows XP).
Follow all the uninstall steps to remove the game from the PC.
Make sure the following directories no longer exists (or are empty):
-C:\Program Files (x86)\EA\BioWare\Star Wars – The Old Republic
-C:\Program Files (x86)\BioWare\Star Wars – The Old Republic
Note: If you do not see an entry for Star Wars – The Old Republic in your program list, please try the following...
Click on the Start bar and open up Computer.
Navigate to C:\Program Files\Common Files\BioWare\
Locate the "Uninstall Star Wars – The Old Republic.exe" file and launch it.
Follow all the uninstall steps, listed above, to remove the game from the PC.
For more information or if you have questions, please visit our FAQ.
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SOURCE: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=714124
so in summary if you have a file called:
assets_swtor_main_version.txt
You SHOULD be right to go.
Posted 09:39pm 08/12/11
Modified: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 4:52:00 AM
if you have this you should be good to go ...
Posted 09:45pm 08/12/11
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Posted 09:14am 09/12/11
it is if you use a vpn. being able to buy it is another matter.
Posted 09:46am 09/12/11
Restock of their main game CD Key, which I just got now, but bloody redeeming has been taken down due to website maintenance.
Posted 09:51am 09/12/11
Posted 11:03am 09/12/11
amazon customer servive have been telling people to talk to EA because it's EA that is stopping them from sending it early. EA customer serivce is telling people to talk to amazon because they have no control over when amazon ship the game.
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Posted 12:40pm 09/12/11
did your amazon early access code get removed?
also does cjs come with early access? are the cjs keys US or EU keys?
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And yes, I was adamant I wasn't buying this. I'm a f*****g sheep.
Posted 03:01pm 09/12/11
hah, i caved last week ><
Posted 03:08pm 09/12/11
so why cancel from amazon? it takes a week w/ express shipping. gonna get the same play time + game box.
Posted 03:10pm 09/12/11
EDIT - Because even with express shipping, there is no way it is arriving before xmas and often there is an entire stop of mail until after new year. I don't want to have to wait 2+ weeks for my boxed copy when I can just buy a CD key instead. I already have the game on my PC but just need the CD key to activate it.
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Posted 03:15pm 09/12/11
I'm so f*****g tempted.
Posted 03:22pm 09/12/11
pretty sure with the most expensive shipping option it can arrive any time from 24/12 onwards from amazon (minimum shipping time 2 days)
also, entire stop of mail between xmas and new years? are you sure about that?
Posted 03:32pm 09/12/11
EDIT - Also because I missed the beta test, I assume there are WoW like servers so which one does everyone play on?
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Posted 03:48pm 09/12/11
I cancelled my Amazon preorder yesterday too - my code redemption on SWOTR site is still showing a preorder registered, so I wonder if they will purge all invalid preorder codes prior to the early game time - here's hoping they don't!
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I can see why Bioware would be cancelling the Early Access codes, but currently you can't put a new one on a account that already has it, so if I was to buy the one on CJS, it would be useless. They should just let it be, not gonna hurt anyone.
Posted 09:21pm 09/12/11
yeah i know that but people are speculating you will have to pay your sub in euros if you get the EU copy.
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Posted 10:25am 10/12/11
and because bigpond email is down i cant see if they sent an email about it.
Posted 10:29am 10/12/11
Check to make sure it just doesn't' appear on the last 6 months screen. By default it only shows orders made in the last 30 days.
Posted 10:33am 10/12/11
still list dec 21 as shipping date :(
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Posted 10:45am 10/12/11
Which I'm fine with. $2 a month doesn't break me.
It doesn't take a lot of depreciation of the EUR for those prices to fall in favour of EU. We've been gaining on the EUR for 2 years now and I don't see them turning that around anytime soon, do you? There may not be a EUR in 6 months anyway ;)
The USD rate has possibly peaked though? If the EUR wekens much more I could totally see net-savvy buyers of this s*** turning to EU markets rather than US, which is what floating rates are supposed to f*****g do anyway, right?
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http://www.ultimatumgamekeys.com/en/game/buy-cheap-ea-swtor-star-wars-the-old-republic-origin-cd-key
let me know how it goes if you do.
Posted 01:06pm 10/12/11
Flare Gun: Fires flares into the air.
Training Droid: Hovers at your side for combat assistance.
HoloDancer: Project your own holographic dancer.
HoloCam: Keep visual records of in-game adventures.
STAP (Single Trooper Aerial Platform): Sleek and unique in-game vehicle.
Just wonder when i'll get my actual key and if the amazon early starter one I put in will be canceled sometime or not.
Posted 01:24pm 10/12/11
I'm wondering this also as I've done exactly the same thing.
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Oh yeah also comes with the early start bonus.
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i'm still waiting for my key from them
dm how long did it take for you to receive yours?
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Posted 08:46am 11/12/11
Pitty the swtor website is down...
Posted 08:59am 11/12/11
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dm did you only get the one key?
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torhead has a bit of info. not sure about history of classes though.
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What a f***ed system. Now waiting like 3 days or something.
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I'm rolling Sith now, RL friends are all going Sith.
Grog, try the sites listed in here, but you might find it hard to get one so close to pre-release.
Posted 01:15pm 11/12/11
Dunno yet, waiting to see what server the majority of australian guilds get assigned to
Posted 01:32pm 11/12/11
edit: "Sorry you do not meet the criteria to create an account at this time."
wtf? would it be because i put my country as australia?
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Posted 05:18pm 11/12/11
12.10.2011 Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Early Game Access: Ready to patch
12.10.2011 Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Digital Deluxe Edition Pre-Order
Same as yours?
Posted 05:21pm 11/12/11
Posted 05:29pm 11/12/11
i've sent them an email to see what's up
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Hoggy - you should be able to grab the client launcher and install using it. I know when I installed the beta client (which is retail) that it used it's own launcher for downloading and not Origin. Link to client is here.
Posted 05:50pm 11/12/11
nope
Posted 05:50pm 11/12/11
Those that use a tunnel/proxy in wow most of the major providers are going to have support during the early start period.
Posted 05:52pm 11/12/11
Posted 06:02pm 11/12/11
I have the launcher, but when I log in it says "Server not responding".
Posted 06:03pm 11/12/11
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We (as in my friends and I) will be rolling on Shadow Hand, as that seems to be the server Aussies have taken a liking to, plus it's the one we all played beta on. However, as I said before, going Sith, but might see you guys running around the world, so I'll make sure to shove my lightsaber in your guts!
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Not on my computer.
Posted 06:35pm 11/12/11
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only for those that preordered months ago.
Posted 08:36pm 11/12/11
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There was tonnes of bounty hunters when I was playing my Sith Inquisitor, probably not quite as many agents, but there was still a lot, theres not going to be any class that isn't "overplayed", so just pick what you want.
Posted 09:22pm 11/12/11
EDIT - And I get Blizz as a companion!
Posted 09:40pm 11/12/11
Class/Race/Faction breakdown from the 11,000 vote poll on the SWTOR forums:
http://www.malumfactum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/SWTOR-Poll-MF.png
Posted 10:58pm 11/12/11
You can respec your talents, but once you choose your Advanced Class, thats permanent, you can't change that.
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Posted 07:33am 12/12/11
The story was pretty tops as well. I plan on giving one a good work out.
Posted 07:52am 12/12/11
http://liberi-fatali.net/the-old-republic/star-wars-the-old-republic-guide-and-faq/
Posted 09:39am 12/12/11
Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Early Game Access: Ready to patch
Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Standard Edition Pre-Order
I'm hoping that's early access and the normal pre-order.
Posted 09:56am 12/12/11
still no word from the place i bought from :/
Posted 09:59am 12/12/11
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Posted 11:28am 12/12/11
Amazon still the 20th.
Posted 11:54am 12/12/11
Posted 12:21pm 12/12/11
will be interesting to see who rolls what. I was going to roll a Merc BH but don't really want to roll a BH if every boy and his dog are playing one. Either that or imperial agent as they seemed to have less people playing.
Posted 12:47pm 12/12/11
i reckon we will get a key a day or so after they receive them for origin because afaik origin is the only place you can get the digital deluxe version
Posted 12:51pm 12/12/11
No unofficial server has been decieded yet as Bioware are still to tell the guilds that participated in Biowares guild deployment system what server they will be placed on. The PVE daisy chain of guilds is scheduled to meet tomorrow night at 9pm to come to a decision based on where we are all placed.
I believe the PVP daisy chain is doing something similar...if we are all placed (or majority placed) we will go where Bioware puts us...if not the various guild leaders will deciede what server to roll on, and it will probably deteriorate from there...lol.
Once Bioware tells us where they are deploying the guilds decisions will be made pretty quick after that...I will post in this thread as soon as I know what the PVE daisy chain does.
Posted 01:55pm 12/12/11
Posted 11:08pm 12/12/11
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/n9hil/unofficial_oceanic_server/
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Yes
Posted 08:04am 13/12/11
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like this? http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html
Posted 09:20am 13/12/11
Tonights Ventrilo meetting will be very interesting...I can see it easily turning into a s***fest,,,the general consensus of as this morning is maybe to have both those servers as the unofficial PVE servers.
Will post when I know more.
Posted 09:48am 13/12/11
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Is what has happened to Khel's guild.
Posted 11:42am 13/12/11
We probably aren't gonna go where the guild was deployed though, gonna go on one of the above servers.
Posted 11:45am 13/12/11
Posted 11:57am 13/12/11
pvp: swiftsure
pve: the harbinger
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And you can't even go to the other side's areas a lot of the time, like on Tatooine when I was imperial and tried to go to the republic areas, I got killed by a sandstorm.
Posted 02:18pm 13/12/11
Posted 02:20pm 13/12/11
Somebody didn't go to the Great Pit of Carkoon.
Posted 02:22pm 13/12/11
I dunno. Something about some people getting an early early start because they pre-ordered before others? So they get to start like 2 days before the early start? f**** me but within the next 3 or 4 days I would assume.
Posted 02:23pm 13/12/11
11pm tonight is the start of early access.
And a couple of other smaller AU guilds. All of which are waiting to see what a) their members think, and b) where the AU daisy chain of guilds decides to end up. It just makes finding PUGmates easier at 2 in the morning.
EDIT: Khel, send that man an invite to the facebook group.
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Posted 02:28pm 13/12/11
magic, cheers mate.
might spend the early access decided whether to roll a BH Merc or IA OP and then make a decision on a server. After making the switch from a US server to Oceanic in WoW, I'm definitely going where the rest of the aussies are going. never making that mistake again.
Posted 02:28pm 13/12/11
Yeah, 7AM Est I believe (-5GMT). Everybody send your positive thoughts to stinky, he's going to have a huge couple of weeks.
Posted 02:31pm 13/12/11
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My only fear is that it has a cool name, so heaps of people will flock to it giving us huge queue times. That being said, there was some statements that their servers can handle s*** tonnes of people due to their zone-instancing (and the queues in the stress tests weren't that shabby, so who knows?).
But yeah, I joined a US server to play with a friend after LK came out and, other than weekends, it was a barren wasteland of pointlessness if you wanted to group for anything.
Posted 02:34pm 13/12/11
Yeah, it's all in waves. Kind of like the beta test from a couple of weekends ago.
That was 750,000 over 2 or 3 days that got loaded on, right?
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Can't login yet either and I'm sick which was going to be a totally awesome day of sitting at home playing SWTOR.
Posted 09:27am 14/12/11
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Zapo, how early did you pre-order?
Posted 09:38am 14/12/11
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Posted 09:46am 14/12/11
Went above and beyond and ordered the special colletctor's edition of the game and now I get completely screwed because of it. Thanks EA.
Posted 11:27am 14/12/11
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I tried to set up my sub in advance to save me time when I gain access but it refuses my CC :(
Will have to try out the wife's later and see if I have any more luck, anyone else had a similar problem?
Posted 12:40pm 14/12/11
now my swtor.com account doesn't appear to have remembered that i've entered that code and when i try to re-enter it it tells me the code is in use -.-
don't have more than one swtor or origin account so i have nfi what has happened. guess i'll be chatting with EA support tonight :(
Posted 12:45pm 14/12/11
You think the nerd rage is bad now, wait until they finish inviting people tomorrow lol.
Posted 12:46pm 14/12/11
Good luck, they're f*****g useless
Posted 12:49pm 14/12/11
Posted 01:23pm 14/12/11
It would have been a lot simpler.
Posted 01:27pm 14/12/11
Posted 06:19pm 14/12/11
https://twitter.com/#!/Rockjaw/status/146705008350609408
Posted 06:24pm 14/12/11
Posted 06:27pm 14/12/11
lol that's probably me. was hoping i would get into it on the 18th so i would at least get a good solid day of play.
Posted 07:24pm 14/12/11
Now, where's my EGA email?
Posted 07:28pm 14/12/11
Posted 08:45pm 14/12/11
The game might be perfect.
But as far as launches go this is one of the least well done.
I haven't seen such angry forums since SWG.
Posted 08:56pm 14/12/11
Posted 08:58pm 14/12/11
Other than that I don't see an issue with a staggered release over a pre-release window. The alternative is that everyone tries to login at the same time, they can't bring up additional servers properly to cater for load, there are huge huge queues and server instability.
The people b****ing on the forums are a bunch of twats, and the same people b****ing there would be the same people b****ing if they just allowed everyone access at the same time!
What's the better alternative here??
Posted 09:12pm 14/12/11
f*****g morons whoever runs that joint.
Posted 09:21pm 14/12/11
World of Warcraft is calling from 2004. Hello Queue dance!
Posted 09:29pm 14/12/11
also on the pvp servers you can create both imperial and republic characters.
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Posted 09:37pm 14/12/11
Posted 09:43pm 14/12/11
and the security key app is available for download, but isn't working yet
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/star-wars-the-old-republic/id488420295?mt=8
last edited by ravn0s at 21:43:01 14/Dec/11
Posted 09:52pm 14/12/11
But may I suggest that calling early access was a poor choice, if they had called it a pre-release public beta, inviting people randomly to join it, then on say the 2nd last day announce hey we are letting people keep their toons. The public perception would have been significantly different to the current 200 threads of bioware renegging on grace time statements, and the whole people feeling entitled to pre-release access and being denied.
Also the level 30+'s are exploiting war zones allegedly.
Posted 09:55pm 14/12/11
Posted 09:55pm 14/12/11
Posted 09:59pm 14/12/11
I'm in the awkward position of having the game - but not wanting to play it because everyone else I know is waiting to get in! Still, I think it was the right decision...do I think 7 days is a little excessive? Sure. But what's done is done and as I said before they have been pretty transparent with the whole early access thing the entire time.....unlike the Grace Period issue.
Posted 10:04pm 14/12/11
Hmm no, not quite. stupidly long url at amazon
They announced they will start shipping on the 15th. Strangely US customers will get priority.
International folks for the most part are being told it will be shipped on the 19th... if you get lucky you might get it on the 24th otherwise I would expect 28-30th.
Which is pretty fruity Amazon logic. The fastest delivery US purchases will probably be at the customers on the 16th... 4 days ahead of the cut off.
If they did the international on that day we might have them by the 20th, only a might. If the same day US folks had to wait to the 17th, they'd still have them 3 days before they needed them. oO
Posted 10:04pm 14/12/11
Also, everyone is forgetting how bad the glorious king of MMO's went on it's launch day. I waited half a day to get onto Silvermoon. Half a f*****g day. And then put that with quests bugging out in the starter area, NPC's disappearing, the old loot bug which can still happen mind you, mining nodes disappearing, terrible class balance (paladins lol), crafting skills that were just useless or broken, and above all, the terrible lag. I would constantly get 10,000MS+ on the initial week of WoW. That's if I could get into the server, which went down half the time.
Posted 10:15pm 14/12/11
You mean the first year of it's life. The amount of times they were forced to do emergency maint, fix broken servers, have servers go down for multiple days at a time and so many more problems. Even some of those issues were still around 2 years after.
At least this time before I get invited gives me time to finish skyrim.
Posted 10:19pm 14/12/11
^ Nostalgia
I think though that even with massive queues/lag/crashes people would actually feel part of the launch. This arbitrary "YOU MAY PASS" system has alienated thousands of players who enjoy and cherish the launch of an MMO.
Posted 10:22pm 14/12/11
Posted 11:41pm 14/12/11
Posted 12:04am 15/12/11
Posted 08:19am 15/12/11
It's going to be interesting to see how they go about punishing them. To the best of my understanding the exploit consists of queueing for a warzone. That's it.
The game then puts you into a warzone (battleground) shortly after it decides that there aren't enough people in there and terminates it, rewarding every participant with full XP as if they had achieved victory.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. If i'm correct then players queueing for warzeons is going to be hard to punish, you could claim that there are people queueing match after match after match for hours on end and that they are clearly exploiting. They could of course just be playing a newly launched MMO and looking for PvP but are having trouble getting it because they have managed to stay at the head of the leveling curve in a rush to PvP and are having trouble to find other players to compete with because NONE OF THEM ARE ALLOWED INTO THE GAME YET.
That and a lot of other players will be cruising along just enjoying the story based first 10-20 levels.
So, while they're calling it an exploit, it's really something that shouldn't of slipped through the copious amounts of testing they did.
Reminds me of one of the battlefields that was crashing just after launch as soon as the server browser was populated with over 100 servers. This was something they never came across in closed testing because they never had 100 servers running.
*EDIT*
Looks like current estimates at the end of the second day of early access invites indicate that everyone who pre-ordered before October 4th is now in.
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/ncd7q/early_access_day_2_post_when_you_get_in/
I might get a look in this weekend as someone who didn't purchase until the start of early access.
Posted 09:31am 15/12/11
Amazon preorder, then cancelling ftw!
Posted 09:43am 15/12/11
hehe
Posted 09:56am 15/12/11
awesome. that's better than what people were predicting. looks like i might get invited in the next day or two.
Posted 10:04am 15/12/11
Posted 10:15am 15/12/11
tempting.
Posted 10:45am 15/12/11
Posted 10:47am 15/12/11
Posted 11:36am 15/12/11
*EDIT*
mmmm ... got the CD key and everytime I go to punch it in my account, it comes up with:
"You already have the game and items associated with this Product Registration Code."
I thought the pre-order code and game cd key was different? Or is it just worth setting up this new CD key with my current origin account to avoid problems?
Posted 12:02pm 15/12/11
Posted 12:05pm 15/12/11
mmmm...reckon it's just worth chucking this on my BF3 origin account so i don't have to jump through the hoops? can't see anywhere to cancel the current pre-order code from amazon.
Posted 12:07pm 15/12/11
That's what I did. Chucked it on my BF3 account. Though I initially had a pre-order on another account, but just got another pre-order code for my BF3 account and was good to go.
Posted 12:07pm 15/12/11
Originally it was released on 20th, shipped 21st, delivered between 23rd and 28th. (which is lawls since the 24th to the 27th will basically be no mail/delivery days with weekends and public holidays. And a rather large backlog on the 28th meaning it would only be a 50% chance of getting jack s*** on that day.
The new improved Amazon delivery dates ?
Shipped on the 19th. Expected delivery date 21-27th. In reality them shipping it 2 days earlier I rekon means I will still get it on the exact same day. 28th or 29th. But who knows maybe they have some how worked out to ship something in under 4days from the US... I haven't ever experienced it with amazon before (usually at least 7 days).
Posted 12:12pm 15/12/11
i did and it's giving me the same expected delivery dates.
Posted 12:14pm 15/12/11
Posted 12:32pm 15/12/11
Having used it before, my experience was picked up on the day, then got processed the next day got to an international airport late that night, spent a solid day in transit, spent a day sitting in some facility in Australia, then delivered the next so about 4 and a half days.
Must be a bunch of people cancelling.
The collector's editions are available again for $149, and from Amazon.
Posted 12:40pm 15/12/11
Posted 12:45pm 15/12/11
Posted 02:32pm 15/12/11
Posted 05:44pm 15/12/11
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=219733#edit219733
Posted 06:05pm 15/12/11
Posted 06:07pm 15/12/11
Posted 06:10pm 15/12/11
Yeah, and I remember one of the reasons they gave for not releasing it in our region was because they couldn't guarantee a good experience so they were waiting for more server infrastructure or some s***. Its already a better experience than most of the other MMOs out there that people from Australia have played for years!
Posted 06:13pm 15/12/11
Posted 06:20pm 15/12/11
Nagle's. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wow forces this in their game's network stack to ensure an optimal experience for people who live close to the server. Low ping services remove this problem as the relay server is close to the game server.
With Bioware wanting (or at least explicitly allowing) EU clients to connect and play on US servers this was probably a network design decision.
That said, the end result for Australians is the same, TOR feels like a better / less laggy game.
Posted 06:48pm 15/12/11
Nagle has been disabled since 2.something around 2007.
Low ping services do nothing for me on Telstra (I get a steady 220-240), but on Optus where traffic gets shapped, it made a huge difference because it was getting classed as a different level of traffic (nothing to do with blizzard, or nagle, or anything other than Optus).
Posted 06:55pm 15/12/11
excellent i'll be playing on saturday. so most of you guys are imperials on swiftsure?
Posted 06:59pm 15/12/11
Talk to ticman. He invented lowerping and told me how it works.
I said I might be wrong but I got it from the source.
And yet they halve my ping on telstra.
Posted 07:01pm 15/12/11
Sith here.
Posted 07:33pm 15/12/11
Posted 08:15pm 15/12/11
From official forum post
So the tomorrow talked about in the above post is the 15th so here's hoping by Friday evening we'll have those that pre-ordered up until the end of November ready to rock and roll.
Posted 08:50pm 15/12/11
Posted 08:51pm 15/12/11
Also TCP sucks for gaming.
Posted 09:03pm 15/12/11
woah here's some damn nice pics.
1920x1080, 8x AA, 16x AF
https://picasaweb.google.com/106586933090887462432/SwtorHD1920x10808xAA16xAF?authuser=0&feat=directlink#
last edited by ravn0s at 21:03:08 15/Dec/11
Posted 09:04pm 15/12/11
My favorite has to be "Sith Meditation Sphere"
Posted 09:10pm 15/12/11
Also I managed to grab one of the CE off amazon when they went on sale again today, they were only up for about 30minutes.
Going by the SWTOR.com faq I will be able to enter a SE key then upgrade it to CE key when I get it.
I'd normally just wait for it to arrive but i've booked leave for next week and i cbf spending time with my actual family.
Posted 09:35pm 15/12/11
And the reference for your opinion is .... ?
(also are you aware you're carrying on like a bit of a tosser?)
Posted 11:01pm 15/12/11
Posted 11:07pm 15/12/11
Posted 11:27pm 15/12/11
So far I like Sith Inquisitor, Dialog for it is cool. Bounty Hunter is also cool. I still dislike the Clone Wars cartoon style of the characters but dialog and stuff make up for it. I seem to get 250 or so ping, smooth as can be considering California is 11,000 klicks away.
Some screenshots I have taken.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9675/swtor2011121418483900.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/75/swtor2011121417270880.jpg
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5876/swtor2011121506015734.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/60/swtor2011121519125030.jpg
Posted 12:23am 16/12/11
Posted 08:44am 16/12/11
I pre-ordered on the 28th November.
Posted 08:46am 16/12/11
yes you do.
Posted 09:11am 16/12/11
Posted 09:27am 16/12/11
Posted 09:28am 16/12/11
In other news, what guilds are being setup on Swiftsure for us QGLers?
Posted 09:30am 16/12/11
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=28618
Posted 09:59am 16/12/11
Posted 10:56am 16/12/11
Also, Amazon has shipped my copy of the game! Happy days.
Posted 11:06am 16/12/11
Posted 11:12am 16/12/11
Posted 11:23am 16/12/11
Hogfather, where's your reference ?
2.3.2 patch notes
Then in 4.1 they gave you the option of turning it back on. That's what the "Optimize network for speed" option is, (it's on by default ie. nagle is off when it's on). But it also does more s*** as well (it sends a lot more data).
4.1 patch notes
Now possibly you could turn off optimize for speed, and tunnel and you'd get the best of both worlds ? Less traffic and no nagle. But that's only a nissue if you are somehow capping your download rate.
At any rate, if you are getting better performance with a tunneling service now it's because your ISP is at some level f*****g you around, or possibly they just have ssh traffic at a really high priority.
Optus for certain have non web, non ssh international traffic shaped. It was massively noticeable in Rift and WoW. Rift in particular would be 1000+ pings with out tunneling, with tunneling it'd be 300ish.
Only towards you ... perhaps that's because of the way you have acted towards me ?
Posted 11:54am 16/12/11
stupid work :(
Posted 12:00pm 16/12/11
Posted 12:12pm 16/12/11
just in time for me to get home from work ... dammit!
Posted 12:18pm 16/12/11
Big f*****g deal Obes.
Aside from that, you have a massive hardon for my posts. What the f*** is with that? I've seen photos of you and I'm super concerned about all this undesired affection. Leave me alone thanks, I don't roll like that.
For the record I'm making a conscious choice to have nothing to do with you and a couple of other dopey posters. I'd appreciate reciprocity but I'll totally settle for ignoring every retarded thing you say. Its no big surprise you're a TOG member haha. You carry on like they did in the PVE daisy chain every time you open your mouth!
Back on topic, looking forward to getting my invite hopefully tomorrow ><
Posted 12:29pm 16/12/11
Posted 12:30pm 16/12/11
Posted 12:35pm 16/12/11
Posted 12:58pm 16/12/11
All PVE queued, PVP 1 not queued.
RP and PVP-RP have a few options.
Posted 01:30pm 16/12/11
stinky - please remove 599 people from Swiftsure queue.
Posted 02:05pm 16/12/11
Sith Inquisitor - KORDAAK
Bounty Hunter - IZORAV
Posted 02:24pm 16/12/11
Don't be too hard on Obes. Being bitter and holding grudges are the only things in life that give him any meaning.
Posted 02:28pm 16/12/11
Posted 02:34pm 16/12/11
hehe typo it's funny because well you're not at all bitter about what trog and term did to qgl and lanning ... right ? (I hope I got the people right)
Posted 02:34pm 16/12/11
Posted 07:10pm 16/12/11
to the [Renderer] section of the file.
It works with nvidia cards, but theres mixed reports of it working with ati cards, but apparently forcing the AA on in the catalyst control panel works for ATI cards.
Posted 08:47am 17/12/11
Everything looks so polished and all the tedious boring crap isn't there and there's a STORYLINE!
If I wasn't so busy i'd consider playing this.
Posted 09:21am 17/12/11
Posted 11:03am 17/12/11
Posted 11:18am 17/12/11