Post by trog @ 10:38am 19/04/11 | 31 Comments
Gaming is still an important part of broadband use in Australia - 44.1% of respondents have indicated that gaming is a reason they have broadband. In terms of ISP performance for gaming, Internode rated the highest at 54.6%, with Telstra, iiNet and Amnet next in line hovering just below the 40% mark. 3G gaming is not popular (...duh) with wireless connections rating as pretty flaky.
One question that isn't there though is the breakdown of how many respondents belong to which ISP, which would be a useful comparison as well. However, there's a lot of other interesting data there (including the fact that almost 40% of respondents are either neutral or negative about the NBN!) so if you're interested in the state of affairs it's worth a look.
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Posted 11:07am 19/4/11
So based on that if you add it up:
Telstra respondents to the gaming quality: 1087
vs
Internet respondents to gaming quality: 2526
At least I figure that's how it works :)
But then when you hover over the "Is this the first broadband provider you've subscribed to?" one...the numbers don't seem to add up to numbers in previous questions. So maybe I'm wrong :)
last edited by Twisted at 11:07:25 19/Apr/11
Posted 11:05am 19/4/11
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Posted 11:10am 19/4/11
Or to put it another way, 78% are Neutral to Very Positive about the NBN.
See I can distort Figures towards my own Bias too.
Posted 11:12am 19/4/11
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Posted 11:23am 19/4/11
I agree with this statement. I think it says a lot.
Although Whingepool is the biggest internet community I'm not really satisfied it represents internet users well though from what I can see - particularly business and casual users where most wouldn't sign up to and us a forum much less complete this survey.
It's a bit of a cop-out statement, but I think it would explain why 'gaming' is so high as a reason for internet usage.
Posted 11:28am 19/4/11
Not realy, You'd expect there'd be a high ammount of people that already have a decent connection and therefore dont want the government to spend the money, because they think its not going to make things any better for them.
They live in there little world of easily available fast broadband and dont see the bigger picture.
Posted 11:29am 19/4/11
Posted 11:34am 19/4/11
Yeah a fair bit, and there is a high percentage of selfish whinging people.
People that dont realy care if the rest ot Australia get decent broadband.
Posted 02:23pm 19/4/11
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Posted 03:05pm 19/4/11
It's silly.
Posted 03:10pm 19/4/11
Of course people will choose 25/100mbit - that is until they see the f*** off price tag. Rubbish survey.
Posted 03:12pm 19/4/11
Thankfully there's quite a bit more transparency out there these days, so the guys with their own agendas / rentseekers are probably having to emelish the more subtle points which overall in the scheme of things may turn out to be academic.
Posted 03:15pm 19/4/11
and Bam, infi proves the point.
You'd expect 25/100mb to be pricey at the start.
We currently pay about 2k for a 4mb/4mb connection per month for work, if the NBN can provide a 25/100mb for even the same price, we would switch.
Posted 03:51pm 19/4/11
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Posted 03:34pm 19/4/11
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Posted 07:13pm 19/4/11
If anything you could say it more like
"You'd think that whirlpool community, arguably the biggest broadband forum, discussing at all levels the implementation from every form of internet would have a reasonable understanding after lots of discussion about the implementation, benefits, and restrictions of the NBN."
This statement would also be wrong, but it at least counts for the fact that they discuss issues about it, hence there's likely to be many devil advocates.
When have you ever seen 100% agreeance in any forum (be it a literal internet based one, or a forum of people discussing in person).
Posted 07:21pm 19/4/11
The results to this question alone invalidate the entire survey. With about 36% saying it's either the same or worse equates to a 36% margin of idiocy.
Posted 10:50pm 19/4/11
What people fail to realise when discussing the NBN is that its not only a tax payer funded scheme in a time of high national debt, but its business plan is based upon an extremely high pick up rate (73% of all households) for it to remain viable with the heavily subsidised costs to implement run and maintain in remote areas. If people are already reporting they dont "need" it how is it a good idea knowing it cant be maintained indefinitely?
You can make arbitrary statements about "short sighted" "ignorant" and "egalitarianism" but at the end of the day those opinions dont sustain the network.... :/
Posted 11:35pm 19/4/11
Posted 11:39pm 19/4/11
Telstra's copper network is being decommissioned, not sure if you understand the implications of that.
It's not going to be in remote areas, those poor bastards have to put up with wireless.
Now don't you feel silly.
Posted 10:54am 20/4/11
This could form the defninition of being digitally raped with thge NBN forcing themselves upon us!
Posted 11:04am 20/4/11
You realise the NBN is realy just the physical network?
Its like saying, Energez/SEQEB is raping you because they are forcing there evil electricity wires into your house.
I've got a question for infi. Given you can get ADSL now, if the NBN comes around and hooks you up, would you use it?
Posted 11:26am 20/4/11
the NBN from a taxpayer point of view is a sunk cost, he's already paid (and will pay) his share of the construction costs through his current and future tax liabilities. so as long as the retail price/performance is right then you'd be stupid not to.
that doesn't detract in any way from the arguments against a tax-payer funded network in general or the specific criticisms levelled at the NBN in its current form so i'm not really sure what your point is here.
Posted 11:39am 20/4/11
They can use Wireless technology for their Phoneline.
How does the phoneline part of the NBN work ?
Do we have to pay a "landline rental" component or does the phone come as a free extra with the internet connection ?
Posted 12:52pm 20/4/11
Ergon/Energex are actually raping though so I see this as the same thing. We have no say whatsoever in electicity prices.
I'll answer your Q directed at infi.
I will use it and I am sure infi would too as long as prices are competitive to what we currently have now but the main issue with the NBN is that the cost to the taxpayer does not justify the end result.
We should definitly have more firbe but make it so that it is at least commecially viable(i.e. metro, semi-metro areas).