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Post by trog @ 12:36pm 03/03/10 | 32 Comments
The N900 Australian media launched happened yesterday in Sydney - unfortunately we were unable to attend, but the pricing has been announced:
From April 2010, the Nokia N900 will be available through leading consumer electronic retailers including Harvey Norman and JB Hi-Fi, and telco specialists Crazy Johns, Telechoice and Allphones for a RRP of AUD$899.
A little bit more expensive than importing one, but it's good to finally have some real numbers. Hopefully we'll have an official release date soon as well, so stay tuned.



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supreme
Posted 12:40pm 03/3/10
whats so awesome about this phone? how come it's getting so much attention?
nokia haven't made a good phone since the 3310
Nathan
Posted 12:42pm 03/3/10
Nothing, trog is just a dreamer who likes to post about this phone all the time

If you want linux, go get an Android phone.
MatchFixa
Posted 12:54pm 03/3/10
RRP of AUD$899
I was expecting it to be closer to a grand. Actually it's not that far off it..

How much cheaper are we talking if importing from the states?

edit: a quick google indicates 650 USD in November last year

So around $720 AUD..hmm..

If i was to get it it'd be on plan anyway..


last edited by MatchFixa at 12:54:15 03/Mar/10
trog
Posted 12:50pm 03/3/10
Nothing, trog is just a dreamer who likes to post about this phone all the time

If you want linux, go get an Android phone.
I'll be interested in Android when someone tells me there's a clear upgrade path across all handsets so they can always have the latest version of Android, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Also when it stops using java.
trog
Posted 12:56pm 03/3/10
whats so awesome about this phone? how come it's getting so much attention?
nokia haven't made a good phone since the 3310
I don't know, I'll let you know when they actually come out in Australia!

On paper though, they run Linux, they're fully open source, they have really good software support that fixes a lot of the big complaints from iphone (can multitask, if that floats your boat), has OpenArena, etcetcetc.

I've used one for about 5 minutes and it looked nice if a bit typically gumby nokia UI, but the web-based stuff and other Internet support looks really good.

Definitely not for everyone and from my 5 minute play w/ Nathan's Nexus One I think the Nexus One is probably a 'better' phone for the majority of people.
MatchFixa
Posted 12:59pm 03/3/10
Aussie seller on Ebay for 779 AUD, New, delivered *Apparently*

last edited by MatchFixa at 12:59:14 03/Mar/10
simul
Posted 12:58pm 03/3/10
whats so awesome about this phone? how come it's getting so much attention?


Its more of a computer with a phone tacked on rather than a phone with a computer tacked on. And its Nokia finally branching away from Symbian. That being said it was way overhyped in the US just as it is in AU currently, and when it finally came out people were very underwhelmed for the most part. Its a good proof of concept, not a good product.
deadlyf
Posted 01:12pm 03/3/10
So around $720 AUD..hmm..
That's about what I paid for mine delivered. You might be able to get it cheaper by getting it direct from the nokia US site and doing the forwarding thing like they did with the Nexus.

I've found it to be a pretty good phone but it's not like I've used an iPhone for more then a few minutes or an Android phone at all and the comparison between the three is what people are really interested in. I find it to be nice and quick and customisable, and I've been pleasantly surprised by the keyboard. It even plays SD TV shows on my TV with no problems.

I've seen a video of it running Ubuntu and another of it running Mac OS X. Ubuntu ran pretty quick, OS X struggled like any bloaty Apple product would. It's funny seeing people trash it because it's Nokia though, why Apple would be a more trusted phone maker with their whole 2 phone history is a bit beyond me.
MatchFixa
Posted 01:16pm 03/3/10
deadlyf - where did you purchase yours from?
deadlyf
Posted 01:32pm 03/3/10
Expert Infotech. They basically just import out of a warehouse in HK I think. It's the US version and came with a Australian power adapter to plug the charger into.

There was a post I found on Whirlpool about them with a lot of people complaining and a lot of people saying they had no problems. I had no problems, it took about 4 days for the payment to go through and it arrived about 5 days after that via courier. They did charge a 5% surcharge for using a CC though. The people complaining seemed to mostly be upset that it took 2 weeks to get their item.
MatchFixa
Posted 02:00pm 03/3/10
Nice.

The Nokia site has it listed for $539, Standard 3-5 days is $3.99 - i'm guessing that's within the states, but even if delivery is say $60 to oz , it still ends up being cheaper.

A few more questions:

Do you find yourself actually needing to multitask on it like you would on a computer? or is multitasking there for the sake of saying "hey look at me i can multitask!" Also is multitasking intuitive or do you find it to be more trouble than what it's worth?

Downloading Ovi maps are free yeah? but using GPS obviously counts towards your data usage, right?

How do you find its resistive touch screen? responsive? slow? annoying?

Did yours come with a styler?

I'm mainly interested in its web capabilities when i'm on the move and that's why i'm keen to get a closer look at it.

Cheers brah.

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infi
Posted 02:24pm 03/3/10
yeah thats cheaper than what i paid for my n97 on release.
Midda
Posted 03:20pm 03/3/10
Also when it stops using java.

Android has had a Native Development Kit available for a while now, so developers can make software using C and C++. Java is an option, not a requirement. Though, admittedly, it hasn't been updated for a few months.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/1.6_r1/index.html

I agree about the restrictions with updating all handsets to the latest versions, though. I'm pretty sure that's to do with the handset manufacturers locking down their hardware though, not so much with Android itself.
deadlyf
Posted 03:31pm 03/3/10
Multitasking is intuitive to the point that you probably won't really notice it like how you don't notice it on your PC. You 'minimise' an app by hitting a box in the top left hand corner which lets you open something else.

Ovi maps is free but don't ask me how it works as I haven't really looked into it and have only played around with it on a wireless network. You're supposed to be able to download the maps to your drive and run them off of that but I haven't done that yet. GPS doesn't count to your data but if you don't have the map loaded that you need then it will try to download it. You can choose to allow it access to your cellular network if you want.

The screen is excellent. The biggest downside to resistive is that it doesn't do multi touch but I really haven't found a need for it.

The Stylus is sheathed in the phone, I thought the thing was an antenna at first. It's pretty handy for hitting those tiny page numbers on threads.

I haven't yet set myself up with a phone account suitable for mobile internet but I've been using the wireless around the home. You pretty much need some kind of internet to use the phone as I haven't found a way to update via USB yet.
trog
Posted 03:35pm 03/3/10
Android has had a Native Development Kit available for a while now, so developers can make software using C and C++. Java is an option, not a requirement. Though, admittedly, it hasn't been updated for a few months.
ORLY! didn't know that, that's awesome news.
Khel
Posted 03:55pm 03/3/10
How hard is the keyboard to use? Are the keys so small that its hard to hit what you want?
deadlyf
Posted 04:02pm 03/3/10
Keyboard is easy to use, each key is slightly rounded on the top making it easy to hit even with thumbs. It also lights up when you move into darker areas automatically.
Midda
Posted 04:52pm 03/3/10
I've actually found myself using the keyboard on my phone less and less (Android phone, not an N900), to the point where I don't even know if a physical keyboard would be that much of a bonus on my next phone. I'm still more accurate with the physical keyboard, due to the tactile nature of it, but the physical keyboard has limited auto-correction options compared to the on-screen one. I guess that's more of a software issue than anything else, but I am surprised to find that it's not as essential as I used to think it was.
deadlyf
Posted 05:21pm 03/3/10
I just tested the virtual keyboard after your post. I thought it would be the first inconvenience from lack of multi touch but it works really well. Didn't miss a beat, picked up every touch correctly. Didn't seem to have any additional auto-correcting past changing to caps for the start of a new sentence.

I think I prefer the extra screen space of the physical keyboard, plus it sits nicely in the hand while thumbing. But there's noting wrong with the N900's virtual keyboard that I could see.
Douche
Posted 05:21pm 03/3/10
does the fact that they are releasing the outdated 2GS model not piss anyone else off?
greazy
Posted 10:53am 04/3/10
whats the difference between the 2GS model and the 3GS model apart from the obvious?



last edited by greazy at 10:53:20 04/Mar/10
Midda
Posted 10:54am 04/3/10
What the hell is a 2GS?
greazy
Posted 11:12am 04/3/10
I assume it's 2nd and 3rd gen networks. To be honest the whole 2g/3g networks go way over my head, all I know is that one uses a different frequency than the other.
deadlyf
Posted 01:53pm 04/3/10
The N900 has 3G and there is only 1 model world wide. I'm assuming he is angry it doesn't do Next-G which is the 3G 850mHz but most phones don't including the Moto Droid and the Google Nexus. Nokia haven't even stated that they will make a 850mHz model either but I assumed they would since it's usually the reason for delays in Australia since Telstra don't like to sell any phone that can't do Next-G. It seems they might not though and just release it through other stores.

I'm not sure why it's such an issue to add it in to phones though. A lot of new phones don't support it despite a growing number of carriers world wide using it so there must be a pretty good reason they don't simply whack in support for it. Perhaps they have to pay a licensing fee or something? The hardware itself couldn't be that expensive.
Midda
Posted 03:25pm 04/3/10
I assume it's 2nd and 3rd gen networks. To be honest the whole 2g/3g networks go way over my head, all I know is that one uses a different frequency than the other.

I know what EDGE and 3G are. Douche was implying that there were different models available for the N900, and as far as I'm aware, there is only one, and it works on 3G 900MHz, 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
gamer
Posted 03:38pm 04/3/10
So is the n900 not capable of using the full stpeed that telstra can put out over its mobile network?

Is 'nextg' 3g? or 2g?
greazy
Posted 03:54pm 04/3/10
Midda
Posted 04:19pm 04/3/10
The Telstra NextG network runs on the 850MHz spectrum. This phone doesn't support 850MHz, but instead 900MHz. It will still operate on Telstra's 2100MHz network, which is 3G, but it is only available in capital cities. Optus' YesG network operates on 900MHz, and has coverage that very closely rivals the NextG network, so that would be a better option if you were to buy this phone.
trog
Posted 05:21pm 04/3/10
So NextG is like...3G, but just a bit faster, is that basically all it is?
HeardY
Posted 02:46am 24/4/10
I'll take 2!!
infi
Posted 08:31am 24/4/10
Sorry already sent money for one to someone else at @$300. If Im gonna get scammed I want to get scammed for the lowest price.
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