BigPond Liberty 200GB** $169.95/mth

Ouch. Yeah, better but not much better.

only if it affects wholesale pricing surely. Most ISPs seem to be cutting it pretty tight with the wholesale prices and are still cheaper than the new telstra plans by a fair bit.

ARE UPLOADS STILL COUNTED!?!?

ARE UPLOADS STILL COUNTED!?!?

I'm certain that it'll still count but we'll have to wait and see. I logged in to Bigpond account and the new plans are still not available to be switched to..... yet

I only just cancelled the second of my three bigpond cable plans (60 gig at $129.95 a month) and boy they just didn't want to let me go. Telling me I'd be lucky to find an adsl provider who would hook me up etc. Who knows, I might switch over to the 200 gig plan now.

I still approve of metering uploads, though I think they should be uncapped speed-wise (and possibly unmetered within an ISPs own network). Bandwidth is bandwidth no matter which way it is going. Uncapped uploads are infinitely more useful to me than unmetered uploads.

ADSL2+ are capped, generally to either 1mbit or 2mbit, they are far from uncapped

Why meter uploads at all? It just causes you to hit your cap faster, and for those of us that share files with family members around the world, this is a huge hindrance.

Why would you agree to uploads counted........if user a pays for 100Gb downloads and no uploads and user b pays for 100Gb of downloads and no uploads and user a downloads 100Gb from user b and vice versa the uploads are paid for.......by charging for uploads and downloads users are paying twice.

They are double dipping the chip. Seems like the norm these days.

I don't see your point- why shouldn't uploads be counted? It's not magically different network traffic because it's going the other way through the wire between you and the Internet. If you upload 100gb or download 100gb, you've used your Internet connection to move 100gb of data somewhere.

The telco leases lines, they dont pay for data (usually) they pay for a speed (capacity) per second... thats it. They dont usually get charged more for the more they downlaod or upload.

Trogzor i cant beleive you just said that dude. Of all the people i expect you to realise why its so bulls*** for them to count uploads.

It costs them NO MORE for the unused upstream pipe to be used.

It boggles my mind that Telstra has only just realised that people use BROADband for more than just email and browsing. Well f*****g DUH.

Well apparently that's what some dude at Telstra was quoted saying... "Its apparent people use broadband for more than email and browsing." Yes Telstra, they have been using it for more than email and browsing for about seven years already....

Reinventing the wheel and having yet another music selling service... stupid rather have free traffic to certain existing services.

Reinventing the wheel and having yet another music selling service... stupid rather have free traffic to certain existing services.

competition is good... I think the BP Music mp3s are better quality than iTunes ones as well? 256kbit mp3s at least mostly?

iTunes is 256kbps AAC (which is higher quality at same bitrate than MP3). iTunes got rid of those 128kbps AAC.

competition is good... I think the BP Music mp3s are better quality than iTunes ones as well? 256kbit mp3s at least mostly?

not to mention it's a business that makes money
what's stupid about that

Internode support Annexe M which allows for 2.5Mbit uploads (its an extension to ADSL2+)

Telstra make massive profits, so they don't really have any reason to cut prices. I'm happy for them to do whatever works on a retail level, its the wholesale side of things that I dislike about them.

drug's make money... yes that's a strawman, but it seemed an appropriate response to your red herring.

So f*** the consumer but lets worry about how a telco treats other telco's?

Trog _IS_ on the payroll...

I only just cancelled the second of my three bigpond cable plans (60 gig at $129.95 a month) and boy they just didn't want to let me go. Telling me I'd be lucky to find an adsl provider who would hook me up etc. Who knows, I might switch over to the 200 gig plan now.

Are you saying you run three internet connections in one home?

iiNet do not meter uploads

use to have 3 accounts with 60 gig per account (180 gigs a month) costing me $390 a month. I cancelled one about 2 months ago, and have just cancelled the 2nd. I'll probably keep the third and have it swapped into that $200 gig plan. I LOVE the fact that they don't have the extra download fees on these plans and they just throttle you back...no more surprises come bill day =)

This pisses me off, they want you to get it with a home phone to get discounts, well the internet is in my name, the phone is with telstra but it's in someone elses name so to get the discount we'd have to disconnect the broadband, and then sign up again.


F*** off telstra.

Probably not, ring them up before jumping to conclusions.

To be fair it's not really her fault and it's not really telstras either. If all you do is check email then the plan they stuck her on would most likely be fine.

The only purpose these kind of plans serves is to catch out people who aren't technically proficient or don't know their rights as a consumer.

I'm just going to put it out there but its mainly pirates who wants unlimited uploads to keep their private trackers happy.

People who rarely upload are much better off with a provider who charges for it assuming the price reflects it. Less network congestion due to less p2p/etc is always beneficial.

I'm just going to put it out there but its mainly pirates who wants unlimited uploads to keep their private trackers happy.

I'm just going to put it out there but its mainly pirates who wants unlimited uploads to keep their private trackers happy.

trogs on the payroll...

and what difference, exactly, do you think that makes to my opinion? I'm not a telstra customer or shareholder. All I do is [edit: try to] add value to their products. If you think it makes any difference to my opinion on things you are completely wrong.

People who rarely upload are much better off with a provider who charges for it assuming the price reflects it.

I'm just going to put it out there but its mainly pirates who wants unlimited uploads to keep their private trackers happy.

Big assumption. Unfortunately it doesn't reflect reality.

the actual use or legality is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

TPG were s*** for most of all last year because their network got flooded by downloaders. I however was completely unaffected on iinet. :P

No matter if its legitimate or not, I still don't exactly feel all that keen on paying for a service i'm not going to use. If i wanted to upload something, i'd happily download less. Which is easy, because I don't exactly spend a lot of bandwidth downloading :P

People who rarely upload are much better off with a provider who charges for it assuming the price reflects it.

TPG were s*** for most of all last year because their network got flooded by downloaders. I however was completely unaffected on iinet. :P

I'd say that's reflective.

Somehow my standard of living seems to be fine without the most up to date episodes of things/masses of other downloadables

Actually I think Node just created some new metered-upload plans actually that are heaps cheaper?

anybody who already has the internet (and can see other prices) would be insane to go with them.

60GB limit for a price of 129 and .25c for exceeded usage