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Post by trog @ 01:04pm 21/11/09 | 32 Comments
A few days ago, Google announced the source code release of their much-anticipated ChromiumOS, along with a really clever little video of what it's all about. Designed from the ground up for speed, it boasts a seven second boot time to get you on the Internet as fast as possible.

The official release isn't until next year, and there's a lot of interesting tidbits that have come out about it, including some information about how all data will be stored in the "cloud", and it will only run browser-based applications.

There's a lot of debate as to the merits of such a system - some people believe there's little value in an operating system that is essentially just a gateway to the Internet, and the cloud advocates think it's the Next Big Thing.

Nats got the feeling that a few people might be interested in checking out, so he's built a virtual machine image of ChromiumOS that lets you boot it up in a VirtualBox VM. You'll need some basic understanding of how VMs work, but if you're interested in checking our how ChromiumOS is progressing you can grab the build right here.



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trog
Posted 01:38pm 21/11/09
Just downloaded it and fired it up. Not a lot to do with it but it's sort of neat as a proof of concept. It's basically just like a Chrome browser with a bunch of pre-defined bookmarks, really.
Hogfather
Posted 01:44pm 21/11/09
Isn't that what the OS is though - a bootable browser with the internet itself providing applications via the Cloud?
tequila
Posted 01:53pm 21/11/09
What about the security implications of someone else hosting/storing every bit of your data?
That's one of my primary concerns

other than that I think its a great idea, I don't really see why most applications (except of course the obviously resource intensive stuff) couldn't be run on the tubes
3dee
Posted 01:59pm 21/11/09
I guess the problem is then just to get some decent wireless internet quotas... That'll be the underdoing of this operating system.
Alt_F4
Posted 02:03pm 21/11/09
I think the idea is somewhat viable. I've recently started Google Documents for most of my documenting activities. Much easier this way - can access & edit the documents I need at home, work, on my netbook or iPhone without a need to e-mail/upload them somewhere.

I guess the problem is then just to get some decent wireless internet quotas... That'll be the underdoing of this operating system.


Only in places like Australia... and its not like we represent much of the OS market share.

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dranged
Posted 02:11pm 21/11/09
Mmm, Thanks Nats!
3dee
Posted 02:13pm 21/11/09
Only in places like Australia... and its not like we represent much of the OS market share.

Yeah wireless pricing will be Chrome OS's biggest hurdle in Australia...

Oh and what happens when you hit a dead spot? Does your whole computer cease to be functional?
tequila
Posted 02:18pm 21/11/09
Until google releases some wireless internet hot spots maybe?
trog
Posted 02:28pm 21/11/09
Isn't that what the OS is though - a bootable browser with the internet itself providing applications via the Cloud?

Yeah I was just saying that in case anyone was wondering if there was anything more to it, but it doesn't look like there is.
whoop
Posted 02:36pm 21/11/09
I saw the videos for this the other night and was going to post it but figured someone else would have already beat me to it as usual. One of the comments on youtube mentioned this "OS" doesn't actually work unless you have an internet connection which sounds pretty lame. It's like that thing asus has, but that works whether you have internet or not and only takes a couple of seconds to boot up. What's that called?


express gate


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natslovR
Posted 02:53pm 21/11/09
i don't see the problem of it needing internet to boot up as a big issue. With the way things are going, when your network is down it's akin to the power being off. Sure you can still turn your computer on and use calculator and play solitaire, but for general productivity and usefulness you really need that network up.

If it wasn't for its Internet connection my computer would be little more than an advanced DVD player.

Alt_F4
Posted 02:57pm 21/11/09
Very true, whenever I use my computer or laptop without internet, I will usually be figuring out how to get the internet working again.
Nathan
Posted 02:58pm 21/11/09
Its certainly little more than a "tech demo" at this point, but it is interesting to see how quickly it starts up.
whoop
Posted 03:06pm 21/11/09
The problem is the way they say they're trying to make computers like other devices where you turn them on and they're ready to go, I don't know about you more advanced people but here in my stone age house I don't need to plug my toaster into the internet just to make some toast (their example), nor does my TV need to be plugged into the internet in order to function correctly.

I can also write documents and edit movies and photos from my camera without the internet and I can do the whole shebang while I'm out in the middle of the congo without having to worry about a satellite uplink just to be able to transfer the gorilla mating ritual from my camera to my laptop for later study back at the university.

But hey, you internet addicts go right ahead and jump all over this s*** like a fat kid on a lollipop.

Its certainly little more than a "tech demo" at this point, but it is interesting to see how quickly it starts up.

Maybe fast using their gigabit connection, lets see how well it performs on a standard s***** australian connection.

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natslovR
Posted 03:05pm 21/11/09
how come yours is so much bigger than the warezed one on TPB?

ChromeOS VMDK (1 file; 280.66M) vs Ausgamers 306.344M (321,225,326 bytes)
Alt_F4
Posted 03:12pm 21/11/09
The problem is the way they say they're trying to make computers like other devices where you turn them on and they're ready to go, I don't know about you more advanced people but here in my stone age house I don't need to plug my toaster into the internet just to make some toast (their example), nor does my TV need to be plugged into the internet in order to function correctly.


Your argument doesn't even make sense. Pretty much everyone's computer connects to the internet whether its through ethernet or wifi. If i turn my laptop on at home, work or uni.. it always connects to the relevant wireless networks. It actually makes sense if you think about it. The internet is now more or less synonymous with computer/computers/computing.
whoop
Posted 03:22pm 21/11/09
My argument makes perfect sense. They said in one of their videos they're trying to make computers act like any other piece of hardware in your home, you turn it on and it's there ready to be used. No more waiting around for the computer to boot and load the OS before you can use it.

The internet is synonymous with porn, pedophiles and movie piracy if the main stream media are to be believed, not current computing, I don't know about you but like I said in my previous post, I can edit videos, transfer photos to my PC, write a document and do all kinds of s*** without being connected to the internet.

greazy
Posted 03:28pm 21/11/09
asoos who the hell pronounces it asoos?
3dee
Posted 04:39pm 21/11/09
I pronounce ah-zeus. I'm pretty sure that's the right pronunciation anyway.

But on topic: the problem with *everything* being an Internet based service is that your entire experience depends on you having a reliable fast Internet connection. This can't be the case when you're out and about. Wireless 3G based Internet is far from 100% reliable and the coverage from a lot of carriers is nowhere near 100%.

I would rather write a document offline then save it to the cloud rather than relying on a connecion to simply *write* the document.
tequila
Posted 04:43pm 21/11/09
I pronounce it A-Sus

anyone else is wrong
Spook
Posted 04:51pm 21/11/09
a-sus
sagan
Posted 05:04pm 21/11/09
asoos is correct (coming from someone that deals with asus every few days for work)
Spook
Posted 05:08pm 21/11/09
your post count = 9
my post count = 9 x 1 million

i hardly think yuo are correct
Davetron
Posted 06:28pm 21/11/09
asus comes from the word pegasus, reference here http://www.asus.com/ContentPage.aspx?Content_Type=AboutASUS&Content_Id=9
So unless you pronouce that pegasoos then I don't know.

I think "asoos" is just a marketing thing so people don't get the impression the boards are "suss" (suspicious)

Nathan
Posted 08:18pm 21/11/09
Based on seeing several of their own TV ads, they definitely want you to pronounce it asoos
Seven
Posted 10:33pm 21/11/09
I guess the problem is then just to get some decent wireless internet quotas... That'll be the underdoing of this operating system.

Probably why they're trying to fix that potential problem by buying cable. Maybe making their own ISP?
plasmo
Posted 12:06am 22/11/09
this will be solid when it comes out officially in about a years time
for netbooks- this would be a pretty ideal os

wireless internet however is bloody outrageously expensively in aus :/
Mr.Bumpy
Posted 01:02am 22/11/09
My argument makes perfect sense. They said in one of their videos they're trying to make computers act like any other piece of hardware in your home, you turn it on and it's there ready to be used. No more waiting around for the computer to boot and load the OS before you can use it.

The internet is synonymous with porn, pedophiles and movie piracy if the main stream media are to be believed, not current computing, I don't know about you but like I said in my previous post, I can edit videos, transfer photos to my PC, write a document and do all kinds of s*** without being connected to the internet.

I'm sorry but your argument has not merit. Google are clearly targeting a very specific market of computer users with Chrome OS. Users that open their browser to log into Hotmail/Yahoo Mail/GMail/Facebook/MySpace/Tweeter account, as well as work on the occasional office document. These are the most basic functions that any netbook are quite capable of performing. No where have Google talked about video-editing or photo-editing, and in any case, who would be silly enough to use a tiny netbook for any of these tasks? Chrome OS is not designed to be capable of everything, as with Windows, instead it is an OS designed for the very specific task of delivering online content through a browser and office document editing, which I've learnt from my experience in computer retail, is what the majority of people buy a computer for.

As for Google talking about a computer that's more like a home appliance, is it really that hard to imagine a computer that boots up almost instantly? As I've already said, this is a computer designed for a very specific purpose. Your washing machine relies not only on power, but also on water. If your water pipe bursts your washing machine will be unusable. Likewise with your dish washer. Your mobile phone is also an appliance and is reliant on a carrier network. If the carrier network is down your mobile phone will become useless. Likewise with your landline phone.
Hogfather
Posted 02:02am 22/11/09
I don't personally see the need for a web PC that starts up in 8 seconds or whatever, if it comes at the cost of feature set. If I want a quick look at something online I'm going to reach for my smartphone rather than purchase a dedicated device to fill that space in between phone and traditional PC. That's just me tho.

Google is on a mission to promote the Cloud as your new hard drive, and the web as the new application framework. Its their obvious agenda - they already dominate the web and can get around all the pesky OS s*** that they'd need to tackle to steal share from MS.

But its a really hard sell. We host data online for a couple of clients but in general the people we work with just don't want their core business information online unless its necessary (like for a web app).

It's a layer of security that they don't want to yield and I don't blame them. People want to own their datas, to know its safe and that their IP is as secure as possible. We recently performed an exercise to limit our own operational dependency on the internet.
Syco
Posted 03:23am 22/11/09
Meh, throw on XP Pro, cut it down a bit and have a full featured PC that boots in 25 seconds. What was with that load speed for webpages? Everything cached locally?

Also, they do you want you to say A-soos.
weedy
Posted 12:35am 26/11/09
My main concern is i wouldnt be putting sensitive files on a server farm some where being managed by some lazy arse IT. I speak to IT guys all day who cant even tie their own shoes laces, i dont trust them to run or install our software let alone manage my files.

Also there are other flaws with this theory as well, to access these Google applications you need to authorise. Just like my G1 phone, its based on the cloud principle. Thats all fine and dandy but every now and then the phone fails to sync/authorise with google and i cant even do such a lowly thing as check my calender. Thats pretty annoying as its such a small unintensive but extremely important app that I cant use it at all until I find a Wifi area then it will reauthorise - some reason it fails to authorise on 3G.

Least if the power goes out i can access and work on my files on my laptop or check my calendar.

Where i see a market for chrome is really cheap and underpowered internet pcs at shopping centres, thats about it. Putting it on a netbook is a waste of a netbooks resources.
Mass
Posted 09:09am 26/11/09
I don't see why the boot time is such a big point. Phoenix released a new bios (and I believe Award are following suit) a couple of months ago that takes away all the post time on booting PCs. They demonstrated it on a laptop booting from power button press to the desktop of windows 7 as a 10 second boot time.

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