AusGamers caught up with Valve's Gabe Newell during his whirlwind visit to our shores, which can be read about in full here. But for the purpose of getting to the meat of the visit, here's the excerpt regarding the state of Left 4 Dead 2:
Left 4 Dead 2 came up on the cards, and we were told the situation here in Australia will see Valve continuing their appeal of the Refused Classification the game recently received. But a modified version of the game, he and Valve believe is in line with what the ratings board are after has also been submitted, as the ultimate goal will be to ensure Australia does not miss the November 17 launch of the game.
You can read about the situation in more detail
right here though.
Posted 03:57pm 07/10/09
IMO the more attention it gets with the media and the more outcry we get from the community there is the subsequent more pressure to get our ratings system over hauled. As long as its the lesser known titles being refused classification I don't see a big push for the overhaul. Whether it is pressure of the AGs to change their minds or an overhaul on who gets to make the decision something needs to happen.
Posted 04:00pm 07/10/09
Posted 04:02pm 07/10/09
The actual problem came about because EA sent the game to the Ratings Board assuming it would be fine because the first game was, however, the first game was shown to them in a contextual, controlled situation, whereas no one demoed the game this time, they just sent it in thinking it would be okay. Big mistake.
Posted 04:04pm 07/10/09
As soon as more titles with the kind of profile that L4D2 has start getting banned, enough people might start paying attention to the larger problem.
And it's not like most of you couldn't find a way to play L4D2 even if it stays RC anyway.
Posted 04:06pm 07/10/09
Posted 04:10pm 07/10/09
Plus that south australian d******* wont care.
I do like the idea of patching the modified version back to the intended version after release - stick it to the man you naughty codgers!
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Posted 04:08pm 07/10/09
Posted 04:30pm 07/10/09
I think female gamers will be a particularly powerful group moving forward for influencing ratings and other such decisions. It's too easy to point to teenage males and say "GTA makes that guy drive like a d*******" - but it's much much more difficult to do the same for a female gaming demographic.
Here's an excerpt from an FB friend who changed her status the day the RC came out.
Posted 04:23pm 07/10/09
Posted 04:30pm 07/10/09
Problem solved?
Posted 04:36pm 07/10/09
Posted 04:36pm 07/10/09
Go on, say it. I can handle it. Don't fight the urge!!
Also, problem not solved - because some uppity do-gooder will find out about the DLC and it will become an issue which will only end in tears (e.g., a lot lot more pressure on content delivery methods like Steam).
Posted 05:57pm 07/10/09
it's good that we have valve backing the game so well in aus, do you suppose having the head of valve down here would put any pressure on the oflc, or not?
Posted 06:04pm 07/10/09
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Posted 08:30pm 07/10/09
http://byteside.com/blog/2009/10/07/aussie-mod-hero-meets-valves-gabe-newell/
Posted 08:54pm 07/10/09
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Posted 09:29pm 07/10/09
Edit: sweet video. I would like to know what he thought about the mod. MORE VIDS!
Valve is the f*****g shizzle.
last edited by ctd at 21:29:48 07/Oct/09
Posted 09:25pm 07/10/09
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Posted 10:35pm 07/10/09
That would be steve's head in the bottom :D
I've been to both of them so far and its been entertaining, im sure you'll have fun. See ya there.
Posted 10:01pm 07/10/09
It was about that community investment idea but I saw a video on the tubes with him he kinda explained it a bit more.
Independent devs Unknown Worlds opened up pre-orders for their game natural selection 2 really early to assist in funding development, even though it is not really investing it achieves the same thing - to help a game get made that you think will be really cool.
Posted 09:13am 08/10/09
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Posted 10:23am 08/10/09
People say that I'm patronising. That means I treat people as inferior to me.
(Get it? Get it?)
Hehe.
Posted 11:09am 08/10/09
(Also, just FYI, because the game refers to zombies as "infected" that's where the classification board's confusion came in - if they'd just changed it to "zombie" for them, none of this would have happened)
Posted 11:37am 08/10/09
Posted 11:38am 08/10/09
It mean's when you talk down to someone.
Posted 11:45am 08/10/09
Posted 11:46am 08/10/09
ravn0s - no, if the appeal comes through in time, it'll be like the modified version never existed, they're just hedging their bets so they don't lose too much momentum at retail by missing their intended launch date
Posted 11:58am 08/10/09
Posted 12:02pm 08/10/09
Pfft i'm not going to go out and make a bloody scene with violence using strength. Who are they to tell me what to do?
Posted 03:37pm 08/10/09
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holy s*** we're getting the german version :(
Posted 04:06pm 08/10/09
So the above is perfectly fine with it's exploding bodies, corpses strung up by chains all over the place etc. Even L4D1 had all that stuff. Explain to me where the logic/consistency is here? I'm really not seeing any...
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Posted 05:12pm 08/10/09
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Oh Humanity... Never fail to make me laugh.
Posted 05:28pm 08/10/09
i am a raccoon raccoons are better