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Post by TicMan @ 04:05pm 03/06/09 | 49 Comments
Windows 7 is coming:
Microsoft has confirmed its new Windows 7 operating system will be generally available on October 22, well ahead of its original schedule and in time for the holiday shopping season.

The new operating system, which will replace the unpopular Vista, was originally planned for roll-out at the beginning of next year, but Microsoft confirmed last month that it would hit the market in time for the year's busiest shopping period.
A lot sooner than expected which is good news IMO. Win7 is such an amazing OS compared to Vista and I'll be getting a copy for sure. promoted forum post



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3dee
Posted 04:12pm 03/6/09
I wonder how much it'll cost?
reso
Posted 04:26pm 03/6/09
Win7 is such an amazing OS compared to Vista and I'll be getting a copy for sure.


It's good sure, great maybe. I still honestly don't get the hate for Vista, I've used both and while Windows 7s improvements over Vista are good, it's not as if they're totally different operating systems.

An amazing OS compared to XP, yes.
Trauma
Posted 04:31pm 03/6/09
Yea I have no issues with Vista, but I will look at Win 7 a little closer now, might try the RC.
Tepid
Posted 04:34pm 03/6/09
used first public beta, now using RC1. its very good. dont like going back to xp when i have to.

but i also used vista before this for a few months, and did not have a single problem with it.
demon
Posted 04:38pm 03/6/09
i guess you have to be an it nerd or something to be amazed by operating systems... coz although win7 seems fine to me.. it's still just an operating system. ya know? where ya copy files n use programs n wotnot!? :P like how is it amazing compared to xp? I REALLY WANNA KNOW HOW !?!?! :D
euphoria
Posted 04:44pm 03/6/09
I REALLY WANNA KNOW HOW !?!?! :D
"xp" is two bytes while 7 is one byte. so it's faster thanks to that memory saving.
thermite
Posted 04:45pm 03/6/09
You know you have to pay like an extra $120 to be allowed to open more than 3 applications at a time?
demon
Posted 04:45pm 03/6/09
still not amazed, sorry.
Mitch
Posted 04:46pm 03/6/09
LOL
Twisted
Posted 04:54pm 03/6/09
I had no problems with Vista. But Windows 7 RC is definitely better (so it should be...). I wouldn't call Windows 7 amazing though. It just seems like a slicker Vista to me.
mongie
Posted 04:58pm 03/6/09
You know you have to pay like an extra $120 to be allowed to open more than 3 applications at a time?


Thats not really fair. Starter isn't a true edition of the OS, its a Starter version, like shareware.

Its a great improvement over Vista, and I liked Vista. Its around 95484% better than XP.
reso
Posted 05:04pm 03/6/09
You know you have to pay like an extra $120 to be allowed to open more than 3 applications at a time?


http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/30/microsoft-confirms-no-three-app-limit-in-windows-7-starter/

pARODY
Posted 05:05pm 03/6/09
"xp" is two bytes while 7 is one byte. so it's faster thanks to that memory saving.


People like you cause Y2K :P
jmr
Posted 05:14pm 03/6/09
Ticcles owning the news

I am loving 7
TicMan
Posted 05:26pm 03/6/09
When are you coming for a beer?
jmr
Posted 05:38pm 03/6/09
ASAP

I just f*****g lost $2k so I am broke, AND I have no monitor
whoop
Posted 06:00pm 03/6/09
A lot sooner than expected which is good news IMO. Win7 is such an amazing OS compared to Vista and I'll be getting a copy for sure.


Let's just hope they're not rushing it out just so they can get it in for christmas and hope to patch it up later. You know, kind of like what EA does.

I can safely say I won't be buying a copy of this for quite some time if at all but this brings me to another question, if you have windows vista or xp that needs activation will MS provide activation servers forever or will you simply be unable to use the OS after a certain amount of time? Granted by the time they retire the server the OS is probably going to be well out of date but it seems a bit of an a****** move to simply render software useless and unable to be activated and even more reason to simply pirate it.

I wonder how much it'll cost?

Over $700 for the "ultimate" version I suspect and, let's face it, why would you bother with anything less? Unless you're some sort of gimp who just browses the net and reads emails which you could use any number of linux distros for, for free.
Jim
Posted 06:08pm 03/6/09
just chiming in to insult jmr while he can't read what I'm typing, haha what a loser
Obes
Posted 06:21pm 03/6/09
How's the Media center ?

Does it do the program guide thing ?
épic™
Posted 06:37pm 03/6/09
yes obes
HeardY
Posted 06:49pm 03/6/09
looks pretty cool, I might have to look into it.

is it newb proof?
Mantorok
Posted 06:56pm 03/6/09
Over $700 for the "ultimate" version I suspect and, let's face it, why would you bother with anything less?
Or you could get an OEM license for $299. I honestly can't believe how many people b**** about the price of Vista, when if they bought it from the same place they bought their computer it would cost just as much as XP did.
elachlan
Posted 07:04pm 03/6/09
"A lot sooner than expected which is good news IMO. Win7 is such an amazing OS compared to Vista and I'll be getting a copy for sure. promoted forum post"

I thought this was a joke and you were having a go at it. I actually laughed. Then I realised you were being serious. Funny thing was the fact it had "Promoted Forum Post" next to it :P
whoop
Posted 07:46pm 03/6/09
Or you could get an OEM license for $299. I honestly can't believe how many people b**** about the price of Vista, when if they bought it from the same place they bought their computer it would cost just as much as XP did.

What if you didn't buy the OS with a new PC? I'm not going to go out and buy another PC just so I can get windows 7, your logic fails.
Mantorok
Posted 07:57pm 03/6/09
You do know you can buy an OEM license with a $7 mouse? You don't need to purchase an entirely new PC.
Detonator
Posted 08:00pm 03/6/09
Obviously not.
mooby
Posted 08:05pm 03/6/09
gold partner, so will get it for free. might give the rc a bash on a new hdd for my media centre this weekend.
whoop
Posted 10:03pm 03/6/09
You do know you can buy an OEM license with a $7 mouse? You don't need to purchase an entirely new PC.


F*** OEM software to hell, I've been there in the past and never again. Also some stores will make you buy at least a major computer component or two before selling you OEM software.

Only noobs buy OEM. Noobs and gimps, or gimpy noobs.
Hogfather
Posted 10:28pm 03/6/09
Is it just me or is whoop a bit Hunter-ish?
euphoria
Posted 10:37pm 03/6/09
People like you cause Y2K :P
I made a killing thanks to Y2K. Would've made more if I'd felt like dragging my reluctant ass back to COBOL.

PIC X. anyone?
ViscoS
Posted 11:35pm 03/6/09
Have never had a problem with XP, will only get 7 when I purchase a new machine.
Midda
Posted 12:17am 04/6/09
still not amazed, sorry.

Damn, and we were all really hoping to impress you too.
Raven
Posted 05:22am 04/6/09
People like you cause Y2K :P

No, people like me cause Y2K, because I would see that requiring a whole byte to represent '7' is unnecessary and would pack it in to 4 bits, forever solving the problem of Windows 8.
dranged
Posted 05:57am 04/6/09
wow, what pricks - $15 OEM for a starter license of Windows 7. Think they're worried about Android getting a foothold?
jmr
Posted 10:18am 04/6/09
:( JIM
paveway
Posted 10:28am 04/6/09
yeah i'm not about to start buying windows
3dee
Posted 11:18am 04/6/09
would pack it in to 4 bits

Well, actually you only need three bits
pixem
Posted 12:38pm 04/6/09
I think a lot of issues with Vista may have come from an IT Admin point of view. From what I read it seems 7 fixes a lot of the problems. I hear of a lot of companies plan on skipping vista to upgrade from XP to 7.

From a users point of view they probably like the fish, big icons, changing backgrounds and swirly lights.
Mass
Posted 01:15pm 04/6/09
How's the Media center ?


Well I've been running the Windows 7 Beta and RC for a few months now. The Media Centre is pretty good, its certainly stable, has some major improvements over Vista and is overall a much better product.

The only problem with it I've found is that I am still waiting for a couple of my favourite plugins to be updated to work with it.

epgStream.net are still working on the EPG. Even IceTV hasn't got this one licked yet. However you can either use EIT data (which is s***e but okay if you don't really care if the information is correct or not), or Naill over at BigScreen software has built a beta version of his BigScreenEPG which is the only tool that I know of that can load XMLTV data into Windows 7. I have it running for a couple of weeks now and its good, once you get over the config stage you can just leave it and it works. The beautiful thing is now you get to add channel logos into the guide grid, makes it very easy to pick the channels for my kids. 4 TV tuners work without registry hacks too which is nice.

I have replaced the Movies Strip with just Media Browser as that does everything I need with Movies and TV Series. TMT 3.0 runs like a champ for the BRD.

I am missing the MC Menu Mender app though cause at the moment you have to either regedit everything to change the menus or you have to edit the .dll files.

The MCE Standby Tool works mostly, I've had a few small S3 issues but I expect those to be sorted when the RTM comes out. Certainly not deal breakers.

As a media centre I have to say that W7 is better than vista, its more stable (even as RC) and has better features. Once the community catches up with all the plugin updates etc it will be awesome.

My Media Centre Specs:

DFI - GF9400-TRS Jnr
Intel E7400
2Gb Kingston 800Mhz DDR2
2 x Hauppage HVR-2200 DVB-T cards (4 tuners)
1 x Samsung 750Gb HDD (system and Tv Record)
3 x Seagate 1.5Tb HDD (movies, TV, Music, Pictures)
LG BR - HD ROM
Antec Fusion Remote Max HTPC Case
Seasonic 550W modular PS
Logitech DiNovo Mini
MS Remote and Reciever

TicMan
Posted 01:53pm 04/6/09
Mass - did you install ffdshow and/or Media Control plugin? I tried to get ffdshow going last night with MC so I could FF/RW avi/divx/etc a bit quicker but I borked the whole thing. Reinstall coming up tonight :(
Mitch
Posted 04:25pm 04/6/09
Love not needing any codecs for WMP 12, which is awesome as hell. Havent needed to touch vlc/mpc
ara
Posted 04:38pm 04/6/09

does the media centre extender support for xbox360 look the same?

it changed when it went from xp to vista
Khel
Posted 04:51pm 04/6/09
I haven't been able to get the media center extender working yet, in fact, I've been having a lot of trouble streaming stuff from my PC to my 360 since installing Windows 7 :(

Tried doing the media center extender thing last night, and it'd find the xbox, and start the "configuring media center extender" step, then my 360 would show a "Downloading" screen for a couple of minutes before eventually stopping with an error about being unable to connect to my PC.
Mantorok
Posted 04:58pm 04/6/09
Really? I'd never even bothered with it before, gave it a go a couple of weeks back and it worked first time with no dramas.
whoop
Posted 05:51pm 04/6/09
3. Newly loaded programs are selected but put behind all the other windows, I have to manually select them to bring them forward.

Wow, they still haven't fixed that bug? I get that in XP ffs. I have to first minimise the window then maximise it again to make it come forward. Glad to see MS working so hard to make the interface more efficient. oh wait.....

I haven't been able to get the media center extender working yet, in fact, I've been having a lot of trouble streaming stuff from my PC to my 360 since installing Windows 7 :(

Tried doing the media center extender thing last night, and it'd find the xbox, and start the "configuring media center extender" step, then my 360 would show a "Downloading" screen for a couple of minutes before eventually stopping with an error about being unable to connect to my PC.

I got MCE working with vista + my 360 but after discovering how s***house a stock 360 is at playing anything but dvd's (no codec support without transcoding) I just hooked my computer up straight to my TV.

last edited by whoop at 17:51:32 04/Jun/09
Mass
Posted 06:59pm 04/6/09
Yep I got FFDShow running and Haali (for MKVs). I haven't tried CoreAVC yet which is what I normally use for h.264 playback. Windows built in codecs are used for most playback and FFDShow just take over for the missing codecs. There is a way to make FFDShow take over the xvid/divx playback but I haven't need to do that yet.

I am still playing around on my desktop PC with codecs (its running 64bit win 7). I had a little muck around last night as I am trying to get Megui running in 64bit for encoding blurays in x.246 for MKVs, haven't even touched EAC3to yet. 64bit poses a little more of a challenge as I had to install Sharkys 64bit codecs to get MKV playback.
ara
Posted 09:46pm 04/6/09
I got MCE working with vista + my 360 but after discovering how s***house a stock 360 is at playing anything but dvd's (no codec support without transcoding) I just hooked my computer up straight to my TV.


huh? 360 will play divx/xvid without issues.
euphoria
Posted 10:33pm 04/6/09
Good news, Tomb Raider Underworld Demo works, so that would mean it's Game Arena's downloadable version that doesn't like Windows 7
Why oh why didn't you buy it on Steam?

Good game however - pity about the zero re-playability factor.
whoop
Posted 11:24pm 04/6/09
huh? 360 will play divx/xvid without issues.

Yeah, now it does but when I set it up MS hadn't tacked divx support on and all it could play was wmv's.
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