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Post by Steve Farrelly @ 12:31pm 25/03/09 | 18 Comments
Steam have sent through a press release this morning outlining the success of the Steam digital distribution model and their continued support for the platform with the new tool suite, Steamworks, ensuring it remains the benchmark for software delivery systems of this nature for some time to come.
"Delivering this extension of services on Steamworks first anniversary, demonstrates our commitment to continually develop the platform to better serve the community working with these tools," said Gabe Newell, president and co-founder of Valve. "As we roll out these features, we continue to look for new ways make PC games easier to create and better for customers to experience."
The press release details services such as support for DLC, Matchmaking and Customer Executable Generation (CEG), a "customer friendly approach to anti-piracy," that "makes unique copies of games for each user allowing them to access the application on multiple machines without install limits and without having to install root kits on their PC". Hit the link above for the full release.



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tequila
Posted 12:36pm 25/3/09
I dont quite get how installing a root kit is going to help people play games
Steve Farrelly
Posted 12:37pm 25/3/09
I think it's more about Valve pointing out Steam is as good as your XBL and PSN type services
HERMITech
Posted 12:52pm 25/3/09
^^
and without having to install root kits on their PC

umm...?
Target
Posted 01:02pm 25/3/09
I'm still waiting for Steam to enable me to sell my games.
If I got even a small fraction of their deals I'd end up with multiples of quite a few games, plus others which I don't want, not to mention games I might buy and then later decide I've had enough of.

Also I've got a mate who got his Steam account banned for cheating... ON A GAME HE NEVER EVEN OWNED.
Zero tolerance is fine if you've got a perfect system. Unfortunately VAC isn't perfect and Valve won't listen even to incontrovertible proof that the system has failed.

Other than that, I really like what's happening with Steam.
It even lets me log onto my mate's account and play his games, effectively like lending the disc since you can't both play it at the same time.
tequila
Posted 01:06pm 25/3/09
enable me to sell my games.


Fantasy land, this will never happen
Pinky
Posted 01:11pm 25/3/09
It even lets me log onto my mate's account and play his games, effectively like lending the disc since you can't both play it at the same time.

Physically you can do that, yes, but it's against the Terms of Use detailed in the Steam Subscriber Agreement as follows

When you complete Steam's registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to us for the purchase of Subscriptions. You are solely responsible for all activity on your Account and for the security of your computer system. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account. You agree that you are personally responsible for the use of your password and Account and for all of the communication and activity on Steam that results from use of your login name and password. You may not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account.
ctd
Posted 01:17pm 25/3/09
You only get VAC'd if you have the 3rd party files on your harddrive. Doesn't matter what game as long as it is 'secure'. Universal ban.


Physically you can do that, yes, but it's against the Terms of Use detailed in the Steam Subscriber Agreement as follows

They say that just to protect themselves against people who complain that their accounts have been stolen?

last edited by ctd at 13:17:40 25/Mar/09
Target
Posted 01:54pm 25/3/09
Also you can easily and legally share the GCF files at a LAN so everyone has the latest version of a game - no need to go through the rigmarole of installing, patching, etc.
Spook
Posted 02:36pm 25/3/09
wtf needs to sell their games?
try being less pov;
Target
Posted 02:51pm 25/3/09
Right, that's the only possible reason I could want to sell games.
d0mino
Posted 02:56pm 25/3/09
^^ got your nick from your favourite store?
Strik3r
Posted 03:05pm 25/3/09
You only get VAC'd if you have the 3rd party files on your harddrive. Doesn't matter what game as long as it is 'secure'. Universal ban.


not quite.. VAC bans are game ENGINE based. If you get banned playing 1.6 for example, you will be banned from HalfLife, DOD, tfc and other hl 1 engine based games, but you can still play CoD5/Source/other games that don't use the hl engine. It is possible to be VAC banned for a game you don't own if you got caught using cheats in another game that used the same engine.
Coochie
Posted 03:14pm 25/3/09
^^ got your nick from your favourite store?
Ho-snap!
giririsss
Posted 03:47pm 25/3/09
If I got even a small fraction of their deals I'd end up with multiples of quite a few games, plus others which I don't want, not to mention games I might buy and then later decide I've had enough of.


So your complanit is, that their deals are so good, that you've bought parts of the packs before?

I don't think thats a detractor to the system. I would probably never have bought portal on its own, but as part of the orange box, i got it, turned out to be the game of the year.

As to your point about not being able to pawn the game back to EB/JB, quite often you buy the game on steam for significantly less than you do at retail. But i don't think you'll ever be able to sell the games through steam, as the game developers/publishers never see any money from the second hand trade that EB/JB do. I don't think they'd be keen to possibly alienate publishers by doing that.
Crakaveli
Posted 07:12pm 25/3/09
could always just sell your gift passes?
Bahamut
Posted 08:18pm 25/3/09
Heh as people pointed out elsewhere it's still DRM, it just makes SecuROM and such not required for Steam game releases. I assume they're only duplicating the executable for the game and not the entire gig+ of files uniquely for each account?

Doesn't address the problem of being unable to lend games to people or have multiple people in the same house play different games you own online, since only one account can be logged in regardless of how many games you bought. I guess that's intentional though :/

I wonder if they'll start renting games next? That'd be an interesting endeavour that's made easier by their latest addition to the DRM (i.e. use a keyed executable that expires).

The Steamworks matchmaking now includes the robust lobby system shipped and tested in Left 4 Dead.
That's not a good thing though, Left4Dead's matchmaking system leaves much to be desired.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:21pm 25/3/09
My only issue with Steam is the region pricing.

It is balls that we have to pay an unfair bit more then most other places around the world simply because Australia is awesome. I call it the Awesome Tax.


Target
Posted 11:05pm 25/3/09
I chose this nick because I can't aim for peanuts, so my primary function in most FPS games is... a target. :D
I do okay in FPS games that require a bit of strategic thinking though, like TimeShift.
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