Post by Dan @ 06:42pm 11/11/08 | 68 Comments
AusGamers has had some extensive quality time with both games and we're here to give you the low down from an Aussie perspective. Check out our in-depth comparative review for our personal recommendation as well as everything you'll need to know to make up your own mind.
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Posted 07:06pm 11/11/08
Sorry but having 4 instruments that all require batteries is bloody stupid to me. I'm GLAD the Rock Band controller uses a hub and is corded. Who would need a wireless drum kit anyway? You plan on moving around with it while playing?
Anyway was hoping someone would put something up like this so I could put my thoughts on RB.
- The RB guitar I thought is good but you have to get used to it. Having no "click" noise when you strum is a bit odd at first and you will need to get used to it. My sister prefers to use the GH3 one when we play together. Also the neck buttons don't really have any spacing so you can lose your mind's tracking on where your fingers are and fudge things up
- if Guitar Hero 3 is anything to go by then RB is, and will, lead in DLC. Ton of awesome songs to get against a Metallica album that is bloody huge and not that good? Yeah...
- Timing. This will destroy you for the first few hours to a full day. In GH1, 2 and 3 I can pass 98% of the songs on expert without worry. In RB I failed my first hard song because the timing window was so different to me. No it wasn't lag either. You have to be spot on with very little room for error. Ho/Po's too are the same. Don't expect to be able to rattle off huge combo lines like in Gh3 or even 2. At least not without some practice. I avoid them as much as possible because I usualy fail the timing.
last edited by DM at 19:06:53 11/Nov/08
Posted 07:04pm 11/11/08
Posted 07:44pm 11/11/08
Anyway I chose World Tour's instruments over rock bands based online reports and IGN's comparison which was much like yours. I'll pick up the game only for Rock Band after I'm sick of the songs on WT and have played through on all instruments (except singing)
Posted 08:09pm 11/11/08
re: the wireless vs wire thing. A USB hub requires another power point, and it has a plug pack so you can't plug it in next to other things on a powerboard - only slightly annoying though.
Also, I was playing it on an HD projector over the weekend and the rock band's drum cable wasn't really long enough to sit far enough away to watch the screen comfortable, not a problem with the wireles GH drums. Obviously that's not going to be an issue with regular TV's but just another example benefit. Choose the best setup for you.
Another big IMO the GH drums are much better at playing RB, than the RB drums are for playing GH.
Posted 09:56pm 11/11/08
So, at the end of the day, whether your flavour is Rock Band or Guitar Hero, I'd highly recommend picking up at least one of them, sure its not cheap, but you wont regret it!
Posted 10:07pm 11/11/08
Posted 10:13pm 11/11/08
Posted 11:06pm 11/11/08
But i'm an actual drummer in an actual band so makes me lol at ppl who think they're so awesome at guitar hero. I tried playing the drumming one at an arcade once and couldn't even do it. Give me a real drumkit and band anyday
It's funny when you see guys at jb or d*** smith playing GH nonstop for like 20 mins by themselves.
Posted 11:50pm 11/11/08
why? because they are having fun?
Posted 11:52pm 11/11/08
Posted 12:00am 12/11/08
One of the lead programmers at work is a professional drummer and he had a blast playing Rock Band, so maybe you just suck :P He jumped on the drums and did Enter Sandman on hard having never played the game before, cos it was close enough to the real thing and he knew the song really well from playing it at gigs.
Really though, I don't get the hate towards these games, its not like they're in any way dimishing your ability to play a real instrument or making you less cool or something. Just because theres suddenly lots of people out there playing a drumming game on their home consoles doesn't somehow make you less of a drummer yourself. If anything, they get more people interested in music and maybe get people interested enough to pick up a real instrument. Plus, they're just lots of fun to play.
Posted 12:09am 12/11/08
Yeah, all of these silly people having fun. Why should they bother having fun with a simple enjoyable game with friends when they could spend years learning how to play a real instrument?
Posted 12:20am 12/11/08
Posted 12:21am 12/11/08
um what.
Posted 01:29am 12/11/08
Posted 02:00am 12/11/08
I used to think I'd never play a rhythm game because they all blurted about how you can be a real rock star, etc. that I'm totally against. I picked up GH3 with the PS3 purely because it was a defining console game, not becuase I thought I'd enjoy it. Tell you what though, like that comic strip, it's just fun. To hell with the promo wiffle waffle, it's just fun to get in there and play.
Now that the entire family is converted to GH3, GH:WT will mean we're all on at once, and hopefully my 3 year old can keep up on beginner drums (if I can get him off LittleBigPlanet).
Posted 08:26am 12/11/08
Posted 11:28am 12/11/08
I take back my go-play-instruments post tho - point was kinda moot given other games...
Self-induced flaming....
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Posted 11:26am 12/11/08
Posted 11:28am 12/11/08
Posted 03:45pm 12/11/08
Best I have seen for xbox360
DSE $278
BigW $278 (Tommorow)
JBHiFi $288
Posted 04:25pm 12/11/08
I HAD preordered from JB in the city on the 27th of last month, I got a phone call yesterday (tuesday) saying they didn't have enough stock to fill my preorder. So after ringing around a ton of places I found some copies at harvey norman down the road who were kind enough to match Big W's price with me even asking them (usually they're d**** to deal with). So first thing this morning I went down and picked it up. Jump to lunch time today, JB rings me and tells me my World tour pack is ready to be picked up! wtf
anyway hopefully I'll get my $20 deposit back, then I'll just buy the guitar stand they were giving away with preorders :P
Posted 07:06pm 12/11/08
My red pad on the drum set is already broken
culprit of very s*** soldering
Posted 07:21pm 12/11/08
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Posted 12:33am 13/11/08
Oh & I like how the Tool "Location" is basically just trippy spiral with Tool images, rather clever
Posted 08:16am 13/11/08
Otherwise it's been awesome, I'm slowly getting better, I started on beginner on drums but it's retarded, it's literally nothing but kick drum. I put it up to medium and it's a s***load better, more notes makes it easier for some reason, I guess it's closer to matching the real drum notes and it's easier to predict or something.
Anyway when you do nail notes all over the place on a good song it feels awesome.
Posted 02:31pm 13/11/08
Actually you can hit any pad on beginner level. I was pissed when I found that out after pounding thru 3 songs on kickdrum.
Posted 04:00pm 13/11/08
Posted 07:57pm 14/11/08
Rock Band: Great game, started on Medium and have completed the game and now half way through hard, drums seem to be good, very responsive, although quite noisey and not so durable, also could be set up in a much cooler way.
Guitar Hero World Tour: Lets start by saying i like the set up of the kit itself a lot more, and the toms/snare feel good, a lot less noisey. First thing i noticed is (again starting on medium) world tour is much much harder than Rock Band, not entirely a bad thing just something i thought i would note.
Now for the bad, the kick for me is s***, it feels crap under your foot and its response is s***house, at the start of the songs when you can hit anything all pads work fine and the kick picks up maybe one in every 4 kicks.
Also the left cymbal doesnt seem to be quite as sensitive as the rest of the pads, and the right cymbal when raised rattles when hit, so im currently playing with both cymbals down.
Anyone else experienced these problems? If so id love to hear.
last edited by Deathwalker at 19:57:28 14/Nov/08
Posted 07:43pm 14/11/08
There are a few RB songs that are quite insane on difficulty. Green Grass and High Tides comes to mind. GH:WT do seem to be tougher looking at them on youtube but that is what I think to be just the GH series. Ever since Neversoft took over they seem to like to make the note charts a big tougher than what they have to be.
Just look at videos of Number of the Beast in RB and GH3 and you'll see what I mean. That isn't a bad thing though. Just depends on what you like, eaiser or harder difficulty. I'll be picking up this next time I get payed
Posted 07:58pm 14/11/08
Posted 11:14pm 15/11/08
Looks like time to send it on off to the old Activisions return centre and see what they say....
Quite disappointing. Doesn't stop me doing the career with the guitar, but eh, drumming was awesome fun.
I can only hope they don't knock back a warranty because my housemate managed to spastically break one of the little plastic tabs which keeps your drumsticks in place when not playing it, because he left it up while guitaring and managed to smack it.
Posted 11:24pm 15/11/08
Posted 10:50am 16/11/08
Posted 01:34am 23/11/08
I think with party games like this, it's sometimes hard to get everyone to play if they don't know the songs, or if they don't have the games themselves. I found that the songs on GH:WT weren't so "singing"-friendly. It was a bit hard to get everyone to play if they had to sit there on Beginner/Easy and mumble lyrics. Granted, I'm sure you can disable it though. But yeah, how do you sing a Tool song? Or that Mars Volta song? Not fun at all! :p
Posted 05:35pm 23/11/08
Posted 07:19pm 23/11/08
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Posted 07:41pm 23/11/08
Posted 07:55pm 23/11/08
The Mars Volta song was difficult on drums but that's probably because they are freaks, in a good way :)
I haven't tried the mic yet, I'm tempted to try guitar and mic together for Everlong
Posted 08:20pm 23/11/08
Posted 08:46pm 23/11/08
It's a software fault, not hardware. It's fixable but requires a MIDI interface in order to connect the drums to your PC to do so. Red Octane support were mailing these out for free to people in the US that requested them, not sure about Australia.
Posted 08:53pm 23/11/08
Not that I have an issue. But I am all for chipping to buy one to keep say with the folks at mamoth for locals to fix their drums ? (assuming they'd be ok with that concept?)
Posted 09:09pm 23/11/08
I went in after reading this thread and just got the guitar + world tour game
I'm already loving it, I wouldn't mind trying the drums
Posted 09:41pm 23/11/08
So a small soldering job tomorrow when I get back from Bunnings tomorrow.... and I should be back in action...
Posted 10:34am 27/11/08
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Posted 12:02pm 27/11/08
*edit* a better ... slightly more adult version
last edited by Obes at 12:02:25 27/Nov/08
Posted 12:52pm 27/11/08
Went and picked up GH3+Guitar at Harvey normans for $90~ yesterday and figured I'd get the rockband game while I was there. Playing rockband and enjoying the actual game a bit more than world tour, but that may be because with the yellow cymbal issue, I've swapped the orange to where the yellow should be and can actually play 4 drums :P
Posted 05:51pm 01/12/08
Posted 06:15pm 01/12/08
And now I can blame my lack of guitar hero power on an inability to play the real instruments.
Posted 06:32pm 01/12/08
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Posted 07:48am 26/12/08
And i suppose just because you play the drums real drums that makes you cool? I play guitar myself but that doesnt mean im too good to play guitar hero. It makes me laugh at people like you who take games so seriously. Doesnt sound much like a life to me hun lol.
Although i dont have the rockband or the guitar hero world tour as of yet i will soon but its not because i can play a real guitar. Its because i believe in having fun. Not stuck at home beating my drum you know what i mean?
Posted 09:24am 26/12/08
nice!
Posted 12:59pm 26/12/08
you must be a crap drummer, my bro in law is incredible at the drums (gigs for lots of bands etc) and even he said he was surprised at how reasonably accurate GHWT drums are to the live songs.
he plays on expert and hardly misses a beat (for the songs he knows). thats without really looking at the screen, so they have programmed the game well to detect the correct beat patterns
Posted 03:28pm 26/12/08
I was very sceptical of it at first but now..
Looks a load of fun and aint that what games should be ?
Its a GAME. Lighten up.
Posted 07:08pm 26/12/08
Posted 07:42pm 26/12/08
Posted 12:07am 27/12/08
love metallicas drumming, has always appealed to me in its simplicity and awesomeness.
so this vid is the rockband game?
Posted 12:16am 27/12/08
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Posted 09:27am 27/12/08
Posted 09:55am 27/12/08
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Posted 01:34pm 27/12/08
Yeah, I don't think theres even a date for it yet :(
last edited by Khel at 13:34:52 27/Dec/08