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Post by trog @ 03:03pm 12/06/08 | 51 Comments
After some rumours were spread and quickly debunked recently, Optus are moving to make sure people know what is going on with their iPhone plans. I just got some nice SMS spam about it, pointing me to www.yesiphone.com.au. You can pre-register for information and for $100 (or $50 if you're already an Optus customer), you'll get "secure priority queuing" (which is asterixed up with a warning saying its no guarantee you'll actually get a phone, of course).

No other pricing - indeed, no other useful information - is actually on the site yet, so I think they're just trying to prepare for the onslaught and get themselves some good search engine ranking with this early announcement.



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Latest Comments
boba
Posted 03:04pm 12/6/08
$50 to preorder if you are already an optus member
ravn0s
Posted 03:10pm 12/6/08
preordering phones... wtf?
mongie
Posted 03:10pm 12/6/08
Reso just pointed me to Vodafone
dee
Posted 03:13pm 12/6/08
I wanna know about outright unlocked ones!
Carson
Posted 03:20pm 12/6/08
Why is there so much fuss over the iPhone?
mongie
Posted 03:21pm 12/6/08
Me too... I guess we have to wait until the 11th of July?
dee
Posted 03:23pm 12/6/08
Why is there so much fuss over the iPhone?

See iPhone thread. But those who have iPod touches and crappy phones or jailbroken iPhones will generally be into the whole thing... Those with decent phones like N95 etc won't generally be interested in getting one but thats a generalisation.
infi
Posted 03:47pm 12/6/08
lemmings!!! hahahaha
mongie
Posted 04:03pm 12/6/08
Heres a big bit of news for you...

From a press release by Vodafone Italy

People preferring a pre-pay plan for private users can buy the 8Gb iPhone for 499 or the 16GB model for 569.


499 = $773.64AU
569 = $882.17AU

So, it could be $800 for 8GB and $900 for 9GB... It could also be a lot different.

last edited by mongie at 16:03:01 12/Jun/08
dee
Posted 04:09pm 12/6/08
I fkn hope not!

In the US, the new 3G iPhone will cost from $US199 ($209.32) for the 8GB model to $US299 ($314.50) for 16GB.

Despite selling 6 million iPhones in one year, Apple said its research showed the cost of the previous model had put off would-be buyers.


If mongie is on the money then Australia is once again getting fkd. But I doubt that they'd sell them for 3 times the price when the iPods were fairly well priced compared to US (i think).
TicMan
Posted 04:12pm 12/6/08
No we're not, the US pricing from the key note also comes with a 24-mth AT&T contract.. it's not an outright purchase price.
mongie
Posted 04:20pm 12/6/08
Gizmodo.com.au have released some unofficial leaked pricing information from Optus. Optus have since contacted Gizmodo and confirm the pricing is INCORRECT




* The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase it outright
* The 8GB model will cost $220, the 16GB $330
* Only the 16GB is available in white
* Optus won't be selling accessories - they will be sold through the Apple store
* There will be two plans available: a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB of data and $400 worth of calls
* Both plans include Visual Voicemail
* 30c flagfall; 35c per 30 seconds talk, 25c SMS messages


last edited by mongie at 16:19:20 12/Jun/08

last edited by mongie at 16:20:55 12/Jun/08
darkjedi
Posted 04:45pm 12/6/08
Choosing a Reloadable plan for Private you will be able to acquire directly
on the Shop online the iPhone 3G from 8GB
to 499 euros and the iPhone 3G from 16GB
to 569 euros.


from the Vodafone Italy website via Babelfish.

http://iphone.vodafone.it/?tk=9616%2Cc&ty_key=iphone.vodafone.it
jmr
Posted 04:53pm 12/6/08
Good show mongie
mongie
Posted 05:00pm 12/6/08
Hey dark jedi, read up about 5 posts.
Dan
Posted 05:04pm 12/6/08
From a press release by Vodafone Italy

People preferring a pre-pay plan for private users can buy the 8Gb iPhone for 499 or the 16GB model for 569.



499 = $773.64AU
569 = $882.17AU

So, it could be $800 for 8GB and $900 for 9GB... It could also be a lot different.
This sounds pretty realistic and Euro markets generally get reamed as much as (and often more than) we do so I'm going to predict that voda au's non-contracted iphone will go for $799 and $899.

Early market phone tech is so overpriced hey. $800 for a phone, that's more than a f*****g PS3 at launch. They just give us a false concept that you can get one at an affordable price by hiding the rest of the cost in long-term provider contracts.

I'm really interested in the applications of the iphone, particular because I kind of see it as the start of mainstream mobile communication moving away from timed rate phone calls and ridiculous priced text messaging towards more universal internet applications, voip, msn etc and data usage based plans .

I think it'll be a while before I'll pick one up though. There's no way I could justify spending that much on a phone.

last edited by Dan at 17:04:57 12/Jun/08
B.Hardball
Posted 05:18pm 12/6/08
$800 for a phone, that's more than a f*****g PS3 at launch.

HAHA that puts everything into an entirely different perspective.
3x0dus
Posted 05:36pm 12/6/08
Both plans include Visual Voicemail

yet from what i read the iphone does not support video calls?
mongie
Posted 06:41pm 12/6/08
Visual voicemail is something different...

Isn't it where you can see how many messages you have?
Boxhead
Posted 06:43pm 12/6/08
And you can choose which message you listen to etc..
z0r
Posted 02:59am 13/6/08
neato. i hate message bank woman.
darkjedi
Posted 07:04am 13/6/08
Hey dark jedi, read up about 5 posts.


That's why I re-posted it - quote + link to where it came from. Babelfish translations are always amusing
exo
Posted 07:31pm 30/6/08
Telstra have announced:
http://www.telstra.com.au/iphone
trog
Posted 07:51pm 30/6/08
ta exo, was gonna news post but there's nothing really new there - still no pricing has been announced by anyone?
Damo
Posted 07:54pm 30/6/08
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23908338-5014108,00.html
exo
Posted 07:55pm 30/6/08
Kind of half-pricing. They've announced handset cost and plans its on, but nothing about what's included for the cost of the plan - aka how much data or call minutes.

You get unlimited telstra hotspots though which is nice.
trog
Posted 07:59pm 30/6/08
RLY! that alone almost makes it worth getting if its truly unlimited and included in the monthly cost. Do any other Telstra mobile plans come with that offer?
pic
Posted 08:00pm 30/6/08
someone needs to nuke this thread - misleading title.
exo
Posted 08:35pm 30/6/08
Nope, don't think so. I know they do it (or did it?) for Nintendo DS.

Press release, emphasis is mine:
elstra, Australia's leading telecommunications and information services company, and Apple today announced that the highly anticipated iPhone 3G will be available to Telstra's over 9 million Australian customers on July 11. iPhone 3G combines all the revolutionary features of iPhone with 3G networking that is twice as fast* as the first generation iPhone, built-in GPS for expanded location based mobile services, and iPhone 2.0 software which includes support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and runs the hundreds of third party applications already built with the recently released iPhone SDK.

"Australians are very excited about iPhone 3G and we're delighted to bring this product to them on Telstra's high-speed Next G network," said David Moffatt, Telstra's consumer group managing director. "With iPhone 3G on the country's largest and fastest 3G network, providing coverage to 99 percent of the population, more Australians will enjoy the iPhone 3G experience in even more places."

"We're thrilled to work with Telstra to bring iPhone 3G to Australia's largest 3G network," said Tim Cook, Apple's COO. "iPhone 3G is an amazing product and we think Telstra's over 9 million mobile customers will love it as much as we do."

iPhone 3G will be available from Telstra on July 11 with a range of specially designed Next G iPhone 3G plans that meet the needs of any customer. The Next G iPhone 3G plans start at $30 per month with an upfront cost of $279 for the 8GB model and $399 for the 16GB model. Customers will receive the 8GB iPhone 3G model at no cost with the $80 plan and either the 8GB or the 16GB model at no cost with plans starting at $100 per month. All plans include free Wi-Fi access at Telstra hotspots and require a 24-month contract.
Boxhead
Posted 10:06pm 30/6/08
Telstra and bigpond developing for the iphone
The source also pointed out that Telstra and BigPond have been working on iPhone applications. "Games are a huge area of interest and several companies have already demonstrated beta versions of games for the new iPhone. Electronic Arts, for example, has showed a scaled-back version of "Spore", while business application developer, Salesforce.com, has demonstrated how it could push data from its software-as-a-service CRM application to the device."
Spose its all under NDA and all that, but can we expect some cool Ausgamers or Gamearena type web apps in the future??? Not sure what'd it actually incorporate.. but still it seems like an interesting platform to develop for
BassMan
Posted 11:15pm 30/6/08
...so when the heck is Optus going to get with the party & talk plans + pricing?
ara
Posted 11:17pm 30/6/08

Boxhead knows now so I might as well tell everyone.

We are releasing a branded iphone. it is going to do all the cool things an iphone do but cost half as much. to find out more check out www.nokia.com
ravn0s
Posted 11:18pm 30/6/08
i just hope theres a buy outright option
Boxhead
Posted 11:46pm 30/6/08
Boxhead knows now so I might as well tell everyone.
Bahaha i knew it!
natslovR
Posted 08:42am 01/7/08
the telstra iphone will be reconfigured to promote telstra businesses such as yellowpages and whereis over the normal iphone defaults like googlemaps.
trog
Posted 09:23am 01/7/08
the telstra iphone will be reconfigured to promote telstra businesses such as yellowpages and whereis over the normal iphone defaults like googlemaps.
I can't imagine that's true; do you have a link for that or is it just a guess? The Google Maps thing is an integral part of the iPhone and has always been pimped as a major feature.
Opec
Posted 10:59am 01/7/08
Yeah I can't see Telstra'd want you to use Google Map for free seeing that they've got Whereis navigator (which IMO is inferior product) that they'd want to charge you for to use it for a turn by turn based sat nav.

Personally I can see Telstra providing 2 options but, Google Maps will be bury deep in the options somewhere so most people will just use Whereis.... but I'm guessing here.
natslovR
Posted 01:24pm 01/7/08
trog, today's AFR page 3 quoting:

Telstra spokesman Peter Taylor could not confirm if iTunes would be available as a default application to Telstra subscribers. But he said the Telstra iPhone would provide Telstra Sensis products such as directories system Yellow and navigational system Whereis.

ravn0s
Posted 01:30pm 01/7/08
^doesnt say they are removing the default apps though.
darkjedi
Posted 04:03pm 01/7/08
I know they do it (or did it?) for Nintendo DS.


Pretty sure it's still in place - Free wifi access for anyone using the DS. I remember it working pretty well from my last job (where we had a Telstra hotspot on site) with my DS.
trog
Posted 04:08pm 01/7/08
trog, today's AFR page 3 quoting:

Telstra spokesman Peter Taylor could not confirm if iTunes would be available as a default application to Telstra subscribers. But he said the Telstra iPhone would provide Telstra Sensis products such as directories system Yellow and navigational system Whereis.
aahahah man, I can't imagine anything that would make me want an iphone less than putting whereis on it
Midda
Posted 04:13pm 01/7/08
I'm sure there's worse things they could do. You could always uninstall it.
3x0dus
Posted 04:16pm 01/7/08
almost every other capable telstra mobile has it, the iphone will be no different.

ive found whereis to be pretty handy when u are in a bind trying to find somewhere, and its free to browse.

Add that with the accuracy of GPS integration on the Iphone it will be even better.
trog
Posted 04:18pm 01/7/08
I'm sure there's worse things they could do. You could always uninstall it.
Really? My Nokia 6somethinsomething that I bought from Harveys up front not on plan came pre-installed with some bigpond software and I can't figure out how to get rid of it.

When I start it up it plays some Next-g animation that I can't figure out how to remove, and in the main menu I have a "my Place" icon/app that I can't delete.
pic
Posted 05:48pm 01/7/08
you need to flash it with original non-branded firmware :(
Boxhead
Posted 06:42pm 01/7/08
Presumably you could 'restore' an iphone with itunes back to basics... Although this theory is based on nothing more then a hope that telstra will not railroad the best features of the phone.. eg google maps integration.. I can't imagine that Google would be happy with a piss-ant teleco screwing with their sweet iphone deal
natslovR
Posted 06:54pm 01/7/08
I can't imagine that Google would be happy with a piss-ant teleco screwing with their sweet iphone deal
and that is why it took telstra so long to announce iPhones, this and bigpond music had been sticking points.

With the enhanced security the next gen iphones will get to stop jailbreaking and phones being unlocked, it may not be as easy to detelstraise a TeliPhone as you hope.
darkjedi
Posted 07:45pm 01/7/08
Really? My Nokia 6somethinsomething that I bought from Harveys up front not on plan came pre-installed with some bigpond software and I can't figure out how to get rid of it.

When I start it up it plays some Next-g animation that I can't figure out how to remove, and in the main menu I have a "my Place" icon/app that I can't delete.


There's apps out there you can use to change the 'code' of your Nokia to a de-branded version. Once the code has been changed, you can use the Nokia software updater to re-flash your phone with the generic, de-branded software.

Check out this site for an idea of how it's done with the Nokia N73 - From memory the program they use can handle other model Nokias as well. Then it's just a matter of finding the right code to set your phone to for the de-branded/generic mode.

Of course, warranty = out door if you brick it, which normally goes without saying with this sort of stuff I think :)
E.T.
Posted 03:37pm 03/7/08
The optus plans are now out!

Prepaid:
8GB iPhone 3G (Black)= $729

16GB iPhone 3G (Black or White)= $849

Plus, connect to Optus Pre-Paid and receive $400 Bonus + 1GB internet browsing PLUS recharge with $40 or more on Turbo Cap and receive EXTRA BONUS data every time you recharge!

To get you started Optus Pre-Paid is offering a special offer - unlimited mobile internet browsing on Turbo Cap^ until 31 August 08.


Postpaid plans go like this: (I hope the formating holds up)


Cap plan: $19 $49 $59 $79 $89 $149 $179
Amount of data: 100MB 250MB 500MB 700MB 850MB 1GB 1GB
Inc Calls/Text: $50 $300 $350 $550 $600 $1200 $1500
8G handset cost 12mth: $51 $37 $32 $27 $23 $23 $23
8G handset cost 24mth: $21 $7 $2 $0 $0 $0 $0
16G handset cost 12mth:$61 $47 $42 $37 $33 $33 $33
16G handset cost 24mth:$26 $12 $7 $2 $0 $0 $0



Edit: Unfortunately, my spaces are removed when the item is posted, so its going to be hard to follow.



last edited by E.T. at 15:37:52 03/Jul/08
parabol
Posted 03:37pm 03/7/08
The optus plans are now out!

We've been discussing this for over an hour:

http://qgl.ausforums.com/index.php/439207/?agn=thread&id=2640614
E.T.
Posted 03:40pm 03/7/08
Well f*** me!
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