Post by trog @ 11:15am 10/06/03 | 66 Comments
News.com.au are reporting that an alleged leader of piracy group Razor1911 has been sentenced to 18 months jailtime in the US for piracy:
"Shane Pitman's conviction and sentence should send a strong message to organised internet gangs like Razor1911 that stealing and illegally distributing game software online is not a game," said US Attorney Paul McNulty...Pitman was among more than 40 individuals targeted worldwide by Operation Buccaneer, a 14-month undercover investigation by a variety of law enforcement agencies.
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Posted 11:17am 10/6/03
8-)
Looks like he'll have some time to think over what he's been doing. I'm sure alot of software companies are rejoicing.
Posted 11:19am 10/6/03
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Posted 11:26am 10/6/03
No doubt this will shake-up the warez scene though.
Posted 11:27am 10/6/03
Posted 11:31am 10/6/03
8-)
<--- Palindrome post...WooT!
Posted 11:30am 10/6/03
They wanna sue ppl for selling some warez music CD's worth $30 each .... for BILLIONS of dollars
and this dudes is the ringleader of a huge warez "thing", and has prolly cracked/sent millions of games to ppl ....
blah
Posted 11:33am 10/6/03
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Posted 11:40am 10/6/03
i wouldnt want to spend 1 nite in jail, let alone 540 of them
Posted 11:44am 10/6/03
yet DVDs are say 34 dollars, take millions of dollars to make, and a year plus. they're twice as long at least, and audio + visual. also more expensive to replicate. IT MAKES NO SENSE DUDE.
if i ever start a band, my cds will be like 10 bucks.
Posted 11:46am 10/6/03
it isn't all that bad, for something like theft. only medium/maximum security would be truly horrendous, and imagine this guy will get the little happy heavenly prison cell that costs more money to operate than my whole family earns in a year. (which a complete bs, prisoners get more money spent on them than my whole family)
Posted 11:49am 10/6/03
Posted 11:56am 10/6/03
Do you really think that if pirating went away overnight that music publishers and games developers would drop prices? If anything I think that dropping prices would help eliminate piracy. I mean, its not uncommon here to pay $100 for a game that you'll lose interest in in a month.
Hah :) Pirate away! I'll only buy something if its really good. If people object to this, bite me.
Posted 12:01pm 10/6/03
Posted 12:07pm 10/6/03
For as long as i've been gaming. Fairlight and Razor1911 used to do amiga games over 10 years ago.
Posted 12:11pm 10/6/03
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Posted 01:17pm 10/6/03
My father is a "Corrections Officer" and he says the exact same thing.
Posted 01:39pm 10/6/03
one falls, 10 rise.
Posted 02:07pm 10/6/03
I've heard that even Juvy detention is also pretty bad. . . .at the end of the day prison is still something you dont want to get into no matter how 'weak' anyone thinks it is.
As for 18 months not being that bad. . .well what the hell is he going to do when he gets out? You cant apply for a job without letting them know abt 18 months worth of prison. You have to realise that being sent to prison has more implications than just "oh well, 18 months away, ill see you when i get back". No doubt it will impact him for the rest of his life.
Posted 02:16pm 10/6/03
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Posted 03:00pm 10/6/03
Better start reading this....
http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/RapeInPrison.html
A US prison is the last place a computer pirate would want to go.
Posted 03:19pm 10/6/03
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Posted 03:32pm 10/6/03
Games and applications are still available before release date.
Cracks are made and are freely available as soon as new protection comes out.
The TV & DVD piracy scene has grown in leaps and bounds since then.
The console piracy scene is even bigger than a year ago and music piracy is a part of everyday life for even non computer users.
Though on that note, making arrests like this and examples of people sure would make me think long and hard about it if I was in an organised group. 18 months jail for copying stuff you never use - So not worth it.
Posted 03:47pm 10/6/03
thats so f*****g sad...yo yo yo my name is razor, im a reverse engineer who cracks software...this is my website hosted on my own server in my bedroom...the ip for all the law enforcement is....
Posted 03:48pm 10/6/03
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Posted 05:34pm 10/6/03
I mean... yeh. ...go antipiracy...!
Posted 05:38pm 10/6/03
Posted 05:43pm 10/6/03
really it is...
As for the argument that CD's DVD's and games should be cheaper and then less people will pirate: That's a very nice thing to say since you know they never will drop the prices, so you never have to stop pirating. I would like to see ANY pirate out there stop copying games for $1 a cd compared to say even $10 a game... WON'T happen I tell you.
Piracy will always be there, nothing you can do to stop it, same as theft and whores. Those are things people do because they are people. Trying to justify it though is just stupid. Just admit that you are stealing and deal with the concequences if you are caught.
I hardly ever buy games because I cannot afford them. If they were cheaper I would buy more, but that still doesn't justify if I were to go out and pirate them. If you can't afford a car, do you steal it and blame Holden for pricing their cars out of your financial reach?
my two cents
Posted 06:08pm 10/6/03
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Posted 06:32pm 10/6/03
Remember the movie Catch Me If You Can? Well I read Abagnale's book and by christ if it were one place I'd commit a crime, it sure as hell would NOT be France. No prison sex or anything like that - just imagine being shoved into a completely dark dungeon (basically), with no light, little food and water, a bucket to go to the toilet in (only emptied something like once a month), no running water, little ventilation, no warm clothing and nothing to sleep on. Abagnale spent 6 months ( I think ) in such a prison and by the end of it he was almost completely mad. The jailers would play a game with him where they'd throw a filty, lice ridden mattress in, let him fall asleep then pull it out from under him a few hours later.
When they finally released him (and he hadn't even been to trial yet!) they had to gradually increase the light so as to not damage his vision (6 months living in the dark isn't good I don't think). Abagnale never killed anyone, he was just a conman - so yeah don't go to France and commit crimes.
Posted 06:45pm 10/6/03
Posted 06:51pm 10/6/03
Ever read Papillon (an autobiography) or seen the movie? The French are, or were, cruel f*****s in their jails (justifiable in some instances). I don't know what they're like now, who knows they may have finally joined the 20th century (yes I know we're in the 21st).
Posted 06:54pm 10/6/03
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Posted 07:17pm 10/6/03
15-Love
Nice ace, that!
Posted 11:49pm 10/6/03
The big dude smiles hungrily at him and asks, "Well, Boy. Do you want to be the Mama or the Papa?"
In a panic, the little white guy thinks quickly to himself, "Well if I say I'm the Papa, maybe it won't be so bad!"
As soon as he said, "I'll be the Papa", the big black dude answered, "Well come over here and suck on Mama's big fat d***!"
-- This thread was becoming far too serious for my liking
Posted 11:52pm 10/6/03
Nice one Cloned dude.
8-)
Posted 11:52pm 10/6/03
Fairlight, Myth and Razor1911 should all just go back to making intros for games. They were always cool.
Posted 12:28am 11/6/03
well thats not really right, because if you steal someones car, then you have the car and they do not. However, if you copy someone's game then both parties are still able to play the game. The maker of the game does theoretically lose money from a missed sale.. that is assuming that you were going to actually buy the game in the first place if you hadnt already got a copy.
Posted 12:35am 11/6/03
the uber amega and c64 ones
similar to rbg.swf :)
Posted 07:40am 11/6/03
Posted 05:40pm 11/6/03
over 10years of piarcy, took the cops 14months and in the end they only got 18months?
sounds like its worth the risk to me. sif anyones gonna care that i use kazaa.
Posted 05:43pm 11/6/03
America is the problem.
Screw - Interlectual Property rights!
Posted 06:52pm 11/6/03
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Posted 12:37am 13/6/03
Actualy what pirates do is more akin to taking a product of it from the manufactor and hand it to the public for next to no cost.
That whole "actualy going to buy the game int he first place" thing is just a excuse.
Posted 07:58am 13/6/03
Sneaker .NET
*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
Posted 07:58am 13/6/03
http://www.tech-critic.com/comments.php?id=4904&catid=1#add
Posted 08:12am 13/6/03
Yeah and look at all the pawnbrokers.
Or even better yet, look at all those people trying to sell stuff from the boot of their car :)
They haven't stopped those people have they :)
Posted 10:06pm 13/6/03
Someone said earlier about it being that you would buy the game if you couldnt pirate it, I have 30 games on my comp and wouldnt pay 10 cents for 95% of them, the games I play I pay for.
In some instances the game becomes famous because its so easily available and they sell tenfold in the sequal.