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Nerf Stormborn
Brisbane, Queensland
8107 posts
Apparently it's been heavily built around american intellectual property interests, an apparent crackdown on internet piracy in Australia, and supposedly may raise game prices.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/trade-deal-could-be-bitter-medicine-20131113-2xh4p.html

Apparently breaking region codes is to be criminalised.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-wants-to-criminalise-breaking-region-codes-20131113-2xh7b.html
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IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1694 posts
I think everyone already spotted that this was SOPA/PIPA by a different name...

Just tell me where I've gotta turn up with my pitchfork and torch and I'll be there.
03:44am 14/11/13 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
504 posts
no. just no.

you want to ban drinking? how did that go America? You want to ban sharing? How will that go for you America?



history always shows us the way
05:22am 14/11/13 Permalink
Mosfx
Gold Coast, Queensland
1588 posts
Goodwork Wikileaks, this trade agreement is a joke and the general public need to be more aware of it's effects instead of just shrugging it off thinking "it must be good the Government said so"
07:28am 14/11/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
37538 posts
The EFA have a good post on it too - here. If you are not an EFA member, please go sign up now!
10:31am 14/11/13 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
6125 posts
Something is wrong when the only country to propose a change to the fair use section is COMMUNIST VIETNAM.
11:15am 14/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20759 posts
I don't mind creators of IP having rights to pursue breach of copyright. As long as we recognise intellectual property as a form of property then those rights need to be protected.

I am more indifferent to the actual EXISTENCE of copyright. I think the evolution of ideas would be faster and produce better technology for society if every person was just simply free to make the best product they can. It is always going to be a tough question about how to protects the arts, especially movies and games.

My major concern is that free trade agreements are supposed to lower the cost of goods to Australia. There is no benefit in a free trade agreement for Australia if all it does is increase the risk of litigation against Australians, impose more conditions on purchasing of goods, and put the government at risk of being stuck buying brand name medicines.

Seriously what kind of numbskull would sign an agreement like that?
11:51am 14/11/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14568 posts
My major concern is that free trade agreements are supposed to lower the cost of goods to Australia. There is no benefit in a free trade agreement for Australia if all it does is increase the risk of litigation against Australians, impose more conditions on purchasing of goods, and put the government at risk of being stuck buying brand name medicines.

Seriously what kind of numbskull would sign an agreement like that?

Don't we have a shiny new Government now?
Prime Minister Tony Abbott has indicated that he is keen to see the trade talks pushed to a conclusion next month, saying "there’s always horse-trading in these negotiations, but in the end ... everyone is better off"’.

Dr Rimmer said that Australia appeared "generally supportive" of the US or otherwise "quite passive" in the negotiations.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Tony_Abbott_-_2010.jpg/220px-Tony_Abbott_-_2010.jpg

Tone plz :(
12:12pm 14/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1467 posts
I bet old Tony is getting a hard-on for this TPP. Things seem to be getting worse as we keep going.
12:37pm 14/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14652 posts


Seriously what kind of numbskull would sign an agreement like that?


Tony Abbot?
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TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
4342 posts
Tony Abbot?

Thing is, this coming out means nothing. what will people do? sign an online petition?!? f**** lol

Now if we got 150+ thousand people to call the MP's and complain that might actually make a difference but as it stands, the I'm pretty sure we wont hear anything in the media beyond these articles and lets face it people aren't going to go out of their way to understand how this affects them. they will just wine about it once its done.
02:26pm 14/11/13 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1610 posts
Already discussed, I win.

http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/3363101

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1383018_213444928832322_1089777069_n.jpg
Actual source document for OP:

http://www.yankscallitsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/JumpToConclusionsMat.png

it is still a draft negotiating document ya muppets.


I really, really hate being proved correct.


I don't mind creators of IP having rights to pursue breach of copyright. As long as we recognise intellectual property as a form of property then those rights need to be protected. I am more indifferent to the actual EXISTENCE of copyright. I think the evolution of ideas would be faster and produce better technology for society if every person was just simply free to make the best product they can. It is always going to be a tough question about how to protects the arts, especially movies and games. My major concern is that free trade agreements are supposed to lower the cost of goods to Australia. There is no benefit in a free trade agreement for Australia if all it does is increase the risk of litigation against Australians, impose more conditions on purchasing of goods, and put the government at risk of being stuck buying brand name medicines.Seriously what kind of numbskull would sign an agreement like that?


The guy you support and voted for nimrod.
04:28pm 14/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20760 posts
It is still a draft document. Don't jump to conclusions HJ.
04:33pm 14/11/13 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1611 posts
It is still a draft document. Don't jump to conclusions HJ.


Oh please just acknowledge you are WRONG and GTFO permanently.
04:36pm 14/11/13 Permalink
Nerf Stormborn
Brisbane, Queensland
8108 posts
It is still a draft document. Don't jump to conclusions HJ.

One which by all reports Abbott is placing Australia to be unusually and unconditionally supportive of.
04:49pm 14/11/13 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
4343 posts
Oh please just acknowledge you are WRONG and GTFO permanently.


Don't bother dude, I am pretty sure infi is an LNP troll account.
04:52pm 14/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20761 posts
One which by all reports Abbott is placing Australia to be unusually and unconditionally supportive of.


Let's just see what the proposed final agreement is that's presented for approval by Parliament. Negotiation is all tough talk.
04:52pm 14/11/13 Permalink
Nerf Stormborn
Brisbane, Queensland
8109 posts
Let's just see what the proposed final agreement is that's presented for approval by Parliament. Negotiation is all tough talk.

Tough talk as in agreeing with them every step of the way... Wat?
05:03pm 14/11/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
37544 posts
I am more indifferent to the actual EXISTENCE of copyright. I think the evolution of ideas would be faster and produce better technology for society if every person was just simply free to make the best product they can. It is always going to be a tough question about how to protects the arts, especially movies and games.
Well, the answer clearly now is "you can't", except for ludicrously over-complicated legislation.

I don't mind copyright existing but think it needs to go back to the old 14 year model or whatever it was.
05:06pm 14/11/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4521 posts
so, let me get this right.

under labour the ground work for high speed internet to all was laid
there was inquiries started as to why there was a high discrepancy in digital content between here, and the US
there was a removal of geo-blocking laws

overall there was a opening up of the digital front, and helping us gain access to content that we might otherwise not have

Under the libs, the ground work for that high speed internet is being erroded
the ground work for making price gouging has been put back in place, and the tool to enforce it are been put into place


question is, why are we putting into place protectionist business policies, FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY!!!!
05:09pm 14/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20762 posts
Tough talk as in agreeing with them every step of the way... Wat?


Tough talk as in assuring your military superpower trading partner that you are onside with what they want and then giving them the gentle let down at the last minute, that we tried but couldn't sell it in parliament.
05:19pm 14/11/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4522 posts
there is no reason to cave, the US kinda need us a little more than we do (we are a key place they want to put military, as there is not alot of other places that will let them atm)

also, we have taken a fair bit of useless s*** from the US under the guise of "partnership" about time we start to stand up, we have the leverage
05:24pm 14/11/13 Permalink
Cheez
Brisbane, Queensland
874 posts
Ok so the part about breaking region codes relates to modding the device, what if the device is region free as a built in feature or if you type in the developer code to unlock the extra regions on the device (My old Sony DVD player is region free, as is my Sony Blu -Ray player. And I used the dev code to unlock my parents ones, something like hold stop button type 001265 and hit eject, bringing up secret dev menu and selecting region 0) would these then be breaking that law as I'm playing region 1 dvds that I imported many years ago.
05:40pm 14/11/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22399 posts
there is no reason to cave, the US kinda need us a little more than we do (we are a key place they want to put military, as there is not alot of other places that will let them atm)also, we have taken a fair bit of useless s*** from the US under the guise of "partnership" about time we start to stand up, we have the leverage

"we" won't do s***. Aussies are happy to go on living under a dictatorship as long as they can drink vb and watch cricket. Sadly, beer and sport is all the majority cares about.
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copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4524 posts
VB is s****** than our cricket team

and that is pretty s***
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