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Kevin Rudd quit politics today
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
11317 posts
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-13/kevin-rudd-to-retire-from-politics/5090108

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd has announced his retirement from politics in an emotional speech to Parliament, adding "it really is time for me to zip".




Malcolm Turnbull's response:

11:17pm 13/11/13 Permalink
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BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
602 posts
Good to see the former incompetent and chaotic Prime Minister who led the worst government in Australia's history deciding to leave parliament once and for all.
11:52pm 13/11/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
10810 posts
So now that the ALP is electorally dead the parasite has left the host.

Electricity Bill can now lead the lost tribe of the ALP Primary Vote into the wilderness to search for a new Policy that will get them elected.

11:57pm 13/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20757 posts
With Kevin, everything is about Kevin
12:21am 14/11/13 Permalink
Jim
UK
13376 posts
With [insert politician], everything is about [insert politician]
12:29am 14/11/13 Permalink
Nerf Stormborn
Brisbane, Queensland
8106 posts
Sad lol at these frothing partisans, Howard quit after he lost the PM role too. Nelson quit after he lost the spill.
12:52am 14/11/13 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
36809 posts
see ya kruddler, thanks for everything bro, you made australia a better place and steered us through some dark times.

australia thanks you!@
07:29am 14/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14646 posts
Yeah Krudd wasn't so bad. He paid for some of Spooks TV!
07:48am 14/11/13 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
10777 posts
Not quite the same Nerf, Howard lost his seat in Bennelong in the 2007 election, where as Rudd won his seat of Griffith.
07:52am 14/11/13 Permalink
Taipan
USA
4554 posts
Gotta laugh at the twits ragging on him, just wait and see what is coming up with abbott. Youll be pretty f*****g quiet in a year or so.
07:53am 14/11/13 Permalink
glynd
Melbourne, Victoria
1062 posts
f*** me political fanatics are the worst kind of people haha.

well spoken by Turnbull ... he should have been the one that's PM.
08:48am 14/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14647 posts
It is a bit LOL worthy that My Abbot called for a more dignified parliament and at the very first opportunity, the very first, he results to name calling. 'Electricity' Bill. The very first chance.

And some of you guys think he is a good 'Leader'. That isn't a good leadership characteristic, to go against your word.
08:55am 14/11/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6581 posts
good. now labor can rebuild. Krudd was a psycho.
09:30am 14/11/13 Permalink
carson
Melbourne, Victoria
2157 posts
Hurrah! I wish Rudd left after Gillard took over. She did a good job, unfortunately she had him in the background being a douche canoe. Least he wont f*** around with this generation of Labor and hopefully they can move on.
09:40am 14/11/13 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
622 posts
Tuesday I hear a rumor that Krudd has a mistress from his church and his misses has left him. Wednesday he quits politics.
10:00am 14/11/13 Permalink
Eorl
Brisbane, Queensland
10728 posts
f*** me political fanatics are the worst kind of people haha.well spoken by Turnbull ... he should have been the one that's PM.
Just as bad as console fanboys. Good to see Kevin going on his own accord though, I'm sure that is a rare occurrence.
10:07am 14/11/13 Permalink
BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
603 posts
Howard quit after he lost the PM role too. Nelson quit after he lost the spill.


And? What's your point?

We are "frothing" because a terrible, incompetent, dysfunctional, chaotic, attention seeking, self absorbed PM has decided to call it quits.

Gotta laugh at the twits ragging on him, just wait and see what is coming up with abbott. Youll be pretty f*****g quiet in a year or so.


Tony Abbot can't possibly be as bad as Kevin. Kevin never use to listen to his cabinet or even fill them in/consult them on government issues, he also didn't get along with most of his minister. Tony does.

So that's 2 areas where he has passed Rudd already, and there is plenty of others. Tony would need to mimic rudd and THEN more to be worse than Rudd.

good. now labor can rebuild. Krudd was a psycho.


But they won't rebuild though. They still have the same incompetent, dysfunctional and chaotic people now in the shadow ministries.

I don't understand their logic where they would just go and plonk them straight back into the shadow ministries they were booted out from for being incompetent. It's comedy gold.
11:35am 14/11/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14567 posts
KRudd would always have been a shadow over the new Labor party, a sensible move to depart.

Some people on this forum could learn a lot about class from Malcolm Turnbull.
11:48am 14/11/13 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
1468 posts
I liked Rudd, Gillard was worse IMO. Now we are stuck with Tone for 3 years.
12:42pm 14/11/13 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
17633 posts
yay! by-election!
12:42pm 14/11/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1135 posts
Sad lol at these frothing partisans, Howard quit after he lost the PM role too. Nelson quit after he lost the spill.


Howard actually lost his seat because he was so unpopular in the end.
01:55pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6344 posts
Some people on this forum could learn a lot about class from Malcolm Turnbull.


Kevin Rudd himself could learn a bit about class from Malcolm Turnbull.
Twenty minute long speech thanking past and present staffers, public service, his family, colleagues, constituents, calling out former PMs back as far as Whitlam and not even a brief acknowledgement of Gillard.

No doubt he's still extremely dirty with her and could probably do with some time off to reflect on that. :)
03:03pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14572 posts
Why would or should he acknowledge Gillard?

She was the first to unsheathe the knives and is largely to blame for the entire Labor debacle. If you create a president and ride him to power then you can't complain when he acts like one IMO.

All Kevin did was refuse to give up after being shanked, she deserves none of his respect at all, from his chair its pretty classy to go out without slagging her out (which, btw, she did not have the class to avoid doing).
03:12pm 15/11/13 Permalink
BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
605 posts
Gillard was just practicing a long standing tradition within the Labor party. Rudd-Gillard was the new Hawke-Keating
04:16pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
14573 posts
Gillard was just practicing a long standing tradition within the Labor party. Rudd-Gillard was the new Hawke-Keating

Within Australian politics, you mean. Unless like many youngsters you are buying into the neo-Coalition spin that their side of politics was born with the Howard Government?
04:58pm 15/11/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
10813 posts

BILL Shorten was heard swearing as he left the parliamentary chamber on Wednesday night after being forced to deliver a political eulogy to Kevin Rudd.

The new Labor leader was given 10 minutes notice that the man he replaced was about to drop his bombshell during a division on a vote to raise the government's debt ceiling.

"He was furious,'' said a Labor source, who saw Mr Shorten walking out of the chamber muttering.

"Rudd obviously didn't tell him because he thought he would leak it.''


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/labor-leader-bill-shorten-furious-at-kevin-rudds-retirement-ambush/story-fni0fiyv-1226760777926

The ALP are yet to hit rock bottom.
Its hard to believe Rudd swept to power in a landslide 6 years ago and the Coalition was itself a rabble.
05:15pm 15/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20766 posts
Rudd was a meteorite consumed in the foggy atmosphere of his own ego. He never stood a chance.
06:16pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6345 posts
Why would or should he acknowledge Gillard?


I wouldn't have expected him to slag her off, and obviously any glowing praise for her would have been regarded as disingenuous.
As a statesman it would have been dignifying to have at least said something to acknowledge her contribution as a former prime minister. The lack of words thereof speaks volumes.

I disagree that she's to largely blame for the debacle. A divisive caucus deserves a big slice of it obviously, but if you've heard their free character assessments over the last few years I reckon Rudd himself earned that honour.
06:16pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2242 posts
I'm liking this Turnbull guy, how did thy choose Abbett over him?

It would of been worth acknowledging Australia's first female Prime Minister I think, for that alone perhaps.
06:33pm 15/11/13 Permalink
crazymorton
Brisbane, Queensland
4644 posts
Its hard to believe Rudd swept to power in a landslide 6 years ago and the Coalition was itself a rabble.


welcome to the cycle of politics. in 3 or 6 years time we'll all be back here doing the same threads. Abbott will get rolled by Turnbull who will get rolled by Morrison etc etc.

groundhog day Aus politics style!
08:10pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
14660 posts
Unless Australia can muster up a third major party to rival the 2 main ones, only then will we see Australia truly move forward..
08:28pm 15/11/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
10814 posts
no Turnbull will never lead the Liberals. Never not ever.
then again, weve all heard that never/No word a lot over the last few years.

Rudd and Gillard did not like one and other before they were joined together to lead Labor. Gillard was there to placate the Union factions. She was never a choice by Rudd. The seeds of what happened were prolly there for all to see but the Messianic rise of Rudd swept away all concerns.
09:00pm 15/11/13 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6344 posts
Which is a pity because Abbott is a complete and utter retard in pretty much every arena.
02:16am 16/11/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10189 posts
Malcolm should have been a prime minister and he never will be...
09:54pm 16/11/13 Permalink
BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
607 posts
Malcolm should have been a prime minister and he never will be...


I can't for the life of me figure out why people parrot this line except he supports some of Labors positions on things so of course labor supporters would say "oh yeh he should be the leader of the liberal party" Do you actually think the Liberal party would have different policies? It's not a one man show, it's about the team.
10:09pm 16/11/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10190 posts
Do you actually think the Liberal party would have different policies? It's not a one man show, it's about the team

Yes I do.
Tony is a religious academic.
Malcolm is a tried and tested professional ... who can actually speak.

I disagree with his ideological point of view but he at least has the presence to do the job.
11:30pm 16/11/13 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
11321 posts
At least he wouldn't repeatedly say nothing else but "I want to stop the boats" to Leigh Sales and would actually offer up some sort of argument.
02:07am 17/11/13 Permalink
RuleofBooKz
Melbourne, Victoria
519 posts
the boats have not been stopped

just the media coverage of the boats not being stopped
03:34am 17/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20771 posts
I am happy with the significant reduction in boats.
03:53am 17/11/13 Permalink
BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
608 posts
the boats have not been stopped


There has been a 79.3% reduction in boats since the new government was sworn in and growing.

just the media coverage of the boats not being stopped


Incorrect, there is plenty of coverage, it just depends if you are willing to listen to it or not.
01:14pm 17/11/13 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23636 posts
News coverage like this?

Latifa, a Rohingyan woman from Myanmar, gave birth in the Mater Hospital last week but was returned to a Brisbane detention centre while her baby remained in the neonatal intensive care unit.

For several days the Immigration Department only allowed Latifa to visit her baby at the hospital between 10am and 4pm.

The baby was discharged from hospital yesterday afternoon.

A spokesman for the Immigration Minister yesterday said doctors at the hospital had advised that it is not common for mothers to stay overnight because of bed restrictions.
Hmm I wonder if that was true or just an outright lie?

But in a statement to the ABC's AM program, the Mater Hospital suggested the mother should have been allowed to visit her child whenever she wanted.

The hospital says it encourages new mothers to be involved in the baby's care wherever possible to help establish a strong bond, and does not place restrictions on visiting hours.

"Once a mum is clinically well enough to go home, she is discharged from hospital, but is encouraged to be involved in her baby's care wherever possible to help establish and strengthen her bond with her baby," the statement said.
Yep!

link
01:32pm 17/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20772 posts
FYI she's in detention.
01:36pm 17/11/13 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23637 posts
Here's the article written by those NYTimes journalists who went on a boat ride. It is a bit too advanced for some of the slower people posting in this thread but for those who actually appreciate good journalism it's a good read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/magazine/the-impossible-refugee-boat-lift-to-christmas-island.html?_r=0
02:01pm 17/11/13 Permalink
Mantorok
Brisbane, Queensland
7063 posts
There has been a 79.3% reduction in boats since the new government was sworn in and growing.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bulk-of-drop-in-boat-arrivals-was-under-labor-20131115-2xmd2.html
02:13pm 17/11/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
186 posts
"Discarded like a meal on a lazy susan at a vietnamese restaurant."

Classic Line Turny.
02:14pm 17/11/13 Permalink
t
Brisbane, Queensland
257 posts
What do you mean up there fpot?

It's common for the *mother* to be discharged from a maternity ward after a couple of days, once they're well, but they're still allowed access to the babby at any time even after going home.
05:34pm 17/11/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
10815 posts
If the baby is born in Australia doesn't that make the baby an Australian ?

05:57pm 17/11/13 Permalink
nings
Gold Coast, Queensland
83 posts
yes.
(I wanted to say "only if it's white" but is hard to be sarcastic posting on a forum.)
07:19pm 17/11/13 Permalink
Bah
Brisbane, Queensland
5027 posts
yes.
(I wanted to say "only if it's white" but is hard to be sarcastic posting on a forum.)

So you wanted to say two wrong things then?
08:16pm 17/11/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10141 posts
I am confused...


currently..


work has dumped all it's projects now... Dell, Microsoft and Apple..

:/

in what universe do you do something like that ?


the NBN isn't just a bet...







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fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23638 posts
What do you mean up there fpot?
Basically -

Mother gives birth
Baby is ill
Mother is only allowed to stay for 6 hours a day as she is in detention for her terrible crime of

If the LNP just came out and said yep she wasn't allowed to stay there all day because we have a hardline on keeping people who have committed no crime indefinitely detained, that would be kind of cool because they're c**** and everyone with a brain knows they are c****. Instead they tried to blame it on the hospital for not having enough beds or whatever. The hospital then said that wasn't true and that she was always welcome to stay and that it is actually encouraged. The only way you could safely attempt a lie like that is if you knew you had a drooling support base who never read anything and just believe everything that you say. And guess what?

In other news, and I was actually wondering about this because maybe I am just a bit cynical - at the recent CHOGM just about every world leader who attended (I'd like to say all but I am not sure) condemned Sri Lanka for their human rights violations. Everyone except Tony Abbott. He said it was all good and actually gave the Sri Lankan government a couple of patrol boats to help stop people fleeing the country. What the f***ity f***? If it wasn't so f***ed up, it would be comical.
10:17pm 17/11/13 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
11327 posts
Whatever keeps foreign underclass scum out of the rich conservative's beloved cities.

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koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
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Everyone except Tony Abbott. He said it was all good and actually gave the Sri Lankan government a couple of patrol boats to help stop people fleeing the country. What the f***ity f***? If it wasn't so f***ed up, it would be comical.



sorry dude- I can't look the other way to illegal s*** anymore. both online and offline.


I'm a legitimate trader now. I don't have assets that can be taken away from me ( heh ) - though friends do.


Don't be my friend if your dodgy - electronically and verbally


ya know - I get the feeling I have said this in the past

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koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10144 posts
still - if you are making hacks for games..


*please* keeps them for personal use.


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TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
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at the recent CHOGM just about every world leader who attended (I'd like to say all but I am not sure) condemned Sri Lanka for their human rights violations. Everyone except Tony Abbott. He said it was all good and actually gave the Sri Lankan government a couple of patrol boats to help stop people fleeing the country. What the f***ity f***? If it wasn't so f***ed up, it would be comical.


I think Tony clearly would not approve of the human rights abuses, yet, at the same time, it's important we stop the boats, so if we talked bad about Sri Lanka they might not participate in the deal. You don't bag someone you want something from.

Preventing the boats from leaving the source destinations is a very good strategy and the one I voted for when I put liberals in government last election. No person has a right to enter this country illegally.

Not trading/dealing with/cooperating with a country just because they have human rights abuses is dumb if you ask me.

Might I add that China has HEAPS of reports of human rights abuses and Kevin was giving them BJ's on a daily basis when he was the labour PM.
09:54am 18/11/13 Permalink
BroolStoryCo
Melbourne, Victoria
609 posts
at the recent CHOGM just about every world leader who attended (I'd like to say all but I am not sure) condemned Sri Lanka for their human rights violations. Everyone except Tony Abbott. He said it was all good and actually gave the Sri Lankan government a couple of patrol boats to help stop people fleeing the country. What the f***ity f***? If it wasn't so f***ed up, it would be comical.


Nice attempt at blatantly trying to misquote and twist Tony Abbot's words. He didn't say Human rights abuses was "all good" and Sri Lanka knows Australias position on their human rights abuses, they don't need to be lectured and reminded every 5 minutes. Which is Tony Abbots position.

Don't say such f*****g stupid things(i guess you can't help it)
12:40pm 18/11/13 Permalink
PornoPete
Melbourne, Victoria
1156 posts
Nice attempt at blatantly trying to misquote and twist Tony Abbot's words. He didn't say Human rights abuses was "all good" and Sri Lanka knows Australias position on their human rights abuses, they don't need to be lectured and reminded every 5 minutes. Which is Tony Abbots position.

Don't say such f*****g stupid things(i guess you can't help it)


Tone's approach has been pretty weak. Reminding them while they are hosting CHOGM is a little different to pestering them on the phone. Even David Cameron gave them a bunch of s*** over it.
01:39pm 18/11/13 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23639 posts
The only way you could safely attempt a lie like that is if you knew you had a drooling support base who never read anything and just believe everything that you say. And guess what?
Yep.
05:33pm 18/11/13 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2247 posts
Saw an article saying Australia was being mocked/criticised at COP for dropping the carbon tax and other environmental lax's.

EDIT: I meant COP, the Warsaw Climate Change conference.
06:32am 19/11/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
189 posts
In a country that thrives upon mining and other industries, the carbon tax is a stupid, stupid idea. I, for one, would appreciate our cost of living stay low.

Why hinder our most powerful export?

What's Australia when we don't have mining?
07:52am 19/11/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1139 posts
In a country that thrives upon mining and other industries, the carbon tax is a stupid, stupid idea. I, for one, would appreciate our cost of living stay low. Why hinder our most powerful export? What's Australia when we don't have mining?


Let's just sit on our hands and enjoy the mining good times then. Don't worry about creating new high tech markets so we have something after the mining boom subsides.

We only get to dig those minerals up once, Gina and Clive are still going to dig them up even if we tax half the profits because they're still ridiculous profits.
09:58am 19/11/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20789 posts
Oooohhh someone mocked us! Quick change our policy!
09:59am 19/11/13 Permalink
redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
1140 posts
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/11/abbott-to-abandon-12k-public-service-cuts/

Tone is going to have to find the money from somewhere.
10:06am 19/11/13 Permalink
Mo
USA
143 posts
Incorrect, there is plenty of coverage, it just depends if you are willing to listen to it or not.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to rulesofbooks. He is probably still butthurt over the total destruction of the greens.
He is a dyed in the wool greens supporter. Who normally rattles of on misguided uninformed rants, where anything that isn't in favour of a full open door on immigration is racists and backwards. He believes all control of countries should be handed over to the U.N. And that is no joke.
He also likes to cherry pick what information he chooses to acknowledge. he turns into an ostrich quick smart when ever evidence or news comes out that doesn't support his views/agenda...Dogma
01:31pm 19/11/13 Permalink
Noah
Gold Coast, Queensland
94 posts
In a country that thrives upon mining and other industries, the carbon tax is a stupid, stupid idea.


I agree.

The science behind Carbon Dioxide is crap.
04:02pm 19/11/13 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
10818 posts
rulez is somewhere to the left of Nerfy.
Brother #1 perhaps.

04:57pm 19/11/13 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
6132 posts
sorry dude- I can't look the other way to illegal s*** anymore. both online and offline.


I'm a legitimate trader now. I don't have assets that can be taken away from me ( heh ) - though friends do.


Don't be my friend if your dodgy - electronically and verbally


ya know - I get the feeling I have said this in the pastlast edited by koopz at 00:48:52 18/Nov/13

You're a f*****g retard. ya know - I get the feeling I have said this in the past.
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/f/myth-long.php#illegals
06:36pm 19/11/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10152 posts
f*** me political fanatics are the worst kind of people haha.



yeah - we have stopped watching the religious peeps at work now.


it's back to the labour/lib/green zealots zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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