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TPG is doing their own FTTB
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5839 posts
Pretty Interesting!

news National broadband company TPG has flagged plans to deploy so-called fibre to the basement infrastructure to some 500,000 apartments in major Australian capital cities, in a move which will compete directly with the new Coalition Government’s plans to conduct similar rollouts under the National Broadband Network scheme.


Source: http://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/17/screw-nbn-says-tpg-well-fttb/
03:46pm 17/09/13 Permalink
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hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
10700 posts
of course the big players are going to bring high speed broadband to the high profitability areas. It was always going to happen.
03:49pm 17/09/13 Permalink
jmr
Brisbane, Queensland
8049 posts
Be good once we've got synchronous hundreds!
04:09pm 17/09/13 Permalink
Ickus
Perth, Western Australia
365 posts
Various companies have been doing this for years... IInet and TransACT have both been using FTTB and then VDSL inside the building.
04:17pm 17/09/13 Permalink
TiT
Brisbane, Queensland
5840 posts
True Ickus however this is real big numbers and just after the Liberals have come into power. Everyone stop doing this a couple of years ago, well i know iiNet did
04:18pm 17/09/13 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
4746 posts
Its not really any different to how Optus and Telstra did their cable roll out 15 years ago except that it's to a smaller area and 15 years later. Good on them though because it means they wont have to pay Telstra infrastructure charges (or at least less)
05:29pm 17/09/13 Permalink
Nukleuz
Perth, Western Australia
367 posts
I see this as a bit of a thumb to the nose at the Liberal party and their built tomorrow, for yesterday NBN policy.

Hopefully it gets Malcolm "screw your democracy" Turnbull thinking that deploying an inferior network will likely see competition (cherry picking) leading to their NBN policy becoming the white elephant that they have been claiming Labor's was.
06:24pm 17/09/13 Permalink
cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
1924 posts
the nbn should have been delievered to the most profitable areas in the first place, ie new build apartment blocks, high density housing etc so as to make some money back sooner.

instead they have spent a d***load laying cable in the boondocks in the middle of buttf*** nowhere and consequentially a very low take up rate.

whereas im 1km in a straight line to the cbd and not even scheduled as per the old labor plan to have the NBN installed at all in the next 3 years. all the more simpler for the libs to now unwind it as f***all places have ftth installed and a considering those that do, a very low userbase.
07:24pm 17/09/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20531 posts
Viva la capitalism!
07:44pm 17/09/13 Permalink
TDog
Brisbane, Queensland
142 posts
Wow!! Capitalism! Companies are making money from the LNP's policy!! Well done!! Looks like we're getting FTTH after all.

What people don't realise is when the government gives everything to people for free, the government has no money.
08:33pm 17/09/13 Permalink
Vash
3849 posts

What people don't realise is when the government gives everything to people for free, the government has no money.


Except that isn't the case...
FTTH has a proper funding model for investment return. its not an expense, its a debt that will be paid back & provide profit by 2040.
08:52pm 17/09/13 Permalink
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Nerf Stormborn
Brisbane, Queensland
8022 posts
the nbn should have been delievered to the most profitable areas in the first place, ie new build apartment blocks, high density housing etc so as to make some money back sooner.

While I don't disagree with that,

instead they have spent a d***load laying cable in the boondocks in the middle of buttf*** nowhere and consequentially a very low take up rate.

Last numbers I saw were that the take up rates had already exceeded their profit expectations for entire areas, where only 50% of the houses were yet wired? And they weren't doing any non-urbanised area with fibre, the 7% of Australia not in urban centres were getting wireless and satellite.
08:59pm 17/09/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10126 posts
I had a call tonite that has led me to delete my post.
11:45pm 17/09/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20534 posts
I just figured you were high on bath salts.
11:49pm 17/09/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10127 posts
peeps...



do what you need to do - always ask 'why'




not that anyone cares here... we're just a path that'll still hopefully stay under the radar



aurgh...
11:53pm 17/09/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20535 posts
koopz who called you to delete your post, and why?
12:08am 18/09/13 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
22158 posts
Its not really any different to how Optus and Telstra did their cable roll out 15 years ago except that it's to a smaller area and 15 years later. Good on them though because it means they wont have to pay Telstra infrastructure charges (or at least less)

optus didn't come here but they went to literally the next street to mine. The only net that's any good here is telstra cable. The average speed of adsl here is probably about the same as 56k dialup because of distance and s***** old phone lines.

Hooray for Australia, 2013 and still 200 years behind the times.
12:26am 18/09/13 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
1619 posts
IInet and TransACT


The one and the same organisation under iinet now. (which is good, TransACT's ISP service (grapevine) was horrific, and 'TransACT' services were pretty poo for price too.)
12:53am 18/09/13 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
7702 posts
Koopz Dramas.

Also...

I think its fairly obvious that this was always going to happen... Private sector will build services in profitable, high density areas (they said they would under the last liberal government - see Telsta vs OpEl) but regional areas where service density drops below a certain level will likely miss out...
07:16am 18/09/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
37369 posts
I think its fairly obvious that this was always going to happen... Private sector will build services in profitable, high density areas (they said they would under the last liberal government - see Telsta vs OpEl) but regional areas where service density drops below a certain level will likely miss out...
Fairly obvious - now that we have a Liberal government, I assume you forgot to write
09:57am 18/09/13 Permalink
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