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Newman cuts over 1700 IT jobs in QLD
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
11285 posts
At least 1700 public sector IT jobs will go in the next two years, the Queensland government's $5.2 million IT audit has identified.
Those job losses will come from CITEC, which employs 500 staff, and the Shared Services area, which employs 1200 staff.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/it-pro/government-it/queensland-government-to-outsource-it-services-20130607-2nuac.html#ixzz2VV5yeTgY


There are already bugger all IT jobs in QLD. So if you're thinking of getting into IT, please don't.
02:19pm 07/06/13 Permalink
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ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3714 posts
There are already bugger all IT jobs in QLD. So if you're thinking of getting into IT, please don't.


when i worked at Digital/Compaq/HP in Sydney CBD, without doubt the most overstaffed and incompetent IT team I saw was the NSW governments. I actually saw people there who got fired from IT teams at other companies for stuffing up. It was like a collection of IT people that other companies had rejected.

Now, if QLD is/was anything like how NSW was (this was going on 10years ago now) then it is probably time for a broom to be pushed through.
02:29pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
7889 posts
Sadly it is a lit like that - employees at government agencies, like mine, are mostly the people who couldn't cut it in the private sector, with the additional benefit of awesome job security.
02:36pm 07/06/13 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
11286 posts
Well you don't solve staff/hiring problems by firing everybody and then not hiring anybody ever again.
02:36pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11884 posts

There's a thread on Whirpool about how good it is to be a govt. working mooching off the system and getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in training and other perks...wonder what they're saying now :p
02:38pm 07/06/13 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
3716 posts
Well you don't solve staff/hiring problems by firing everybody and then not hiring anybody ever again.


you don't fire people who are redundant to your needs just to hire replacements.
02:44pm 07/06/13 Permalink
PeterThePossumMan
Melbourne, Victoria
251 posts
Good news. Balancing the purse strings.
03:04pm 07/06/13 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
10607 posts
There's a lot of good, competent people in CITEC, I've spent a fair chunk of this week there.
03:31pm 07/06/13 Permalink
groganus
Brisbane, Queensland
2565 posts
There's a lot of good, competent people in CITEC, I've spent a fair chunk of this week there.


And those will be the ones that will pick up work in the private sector quicker than others.
03:50pm 07/06/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20011 posts
It's always good news when someone gets a job, and it's always sad news when someone loses a job. Breaking up is hard to do.

The upside is now all these people can retrain, get real jobs and drive the cost of labour down in other skilled areas.
05:04pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Thundercracker
Brisbane, Queensland
3316 posts
Good to know, I have to hire some new ASP.NET C# programmers soon.
05:49pm 07/06/13 Permalink
crazymorton
Brisbane, Queensland
4186 posts
with the additional benefit of awesome job security.


maybe 5 - 10 years ago in govt. not any more
06:32pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
9161 posts
i worked for QR for a while and the amount of ppl that rip them off is ridiculous.

such as, work for 2days on a saturday and claim a 13hr double time day. Working for 3hrs a day then goin home/sleeping under a tree till knock off. People would even order pallets of water/ cleaning products and take them home.

It was mind boggling. So its no surprise that ppl in the IT section are doing the same
06:39pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Sc00bs
Brisbane, Queensland
9162 posts
work for 2 hrs on a saturday not 2 days **
06:39pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
6073 posts
If 1700 getting the arse, who will be left to implement the bazillion dollar upgrade of all the qld government systems?

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/06/07/systemic-business-risk-90-of-qld-govts-ict-needs-to-be-replaced-total-cost-7-4-billion/
06:42pm 07/06/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4023 posts
Shared services is already s*** and lacks staff when any big event happens, so let's get rid of more. This and other great "cost savings" ideas* from the lnp

* any cost savings will be eroded by outsourcing costs AND and decline in service so should not be viewed as beneficial regardless of what mp's tell you
06:47pm 07/06/13 Permalink
shad
Brisbane, Queensland
3975 posts
such as, work for 2days on a saturday and claim a 13hr double time day. Working for 3hrs a day then goin home/sleeping under a tree till knock off. People would even order pallets of water/ cleaning products and take them home.


And here I was feeling guilty that I used an envelope from work for a private letter.
07:03pm 07/06/13 Permalink
HerbalLizard
Brisbane, Queensland
5808 posts
Anyone seen user account creation at somewhere like QR.....f*** me.... to the script mobile batman
08:18pm 07/06/13 Permalink
groganus
Brisbane, Queensland
2566 posts
Anyone seen user account creation at somewhere like QR


Having worked there and created accounts, f*** all scripts were used...

Could of used them though, i remember creating 100+ accounts a night at some points... urgh memories.
08:45pm 07/06/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10047 posts
There are already bugger all IT jobs in QLD. So if you're thinking of getting into IT, please don't.




if you haven't been doing this with your Dad/big bro/mates since you were a kid..



please don't.



you're cheap, you're plentiful, you make mistakes, you don't understand the client, and you're giving management every reason under the sun to offshore this work and/or wait until you leave so they can hire another n00b.


hmm...


looking back 10yrs... I should have gone OS to SE Asia and started a consultancy there instead of staying here in OZ and having a family that tied me down.



It's kinda funny to think about the concept right now actually... still... how many overseas call centers has Bigpond/Testra been thru now? 3? 5? 9? (It's less than 10 - more than 5 btw )


How many call centers out there in SE Asia will none of us **ever use** ourselves for work because Telstra gave them the flick due to the sheer number of customers they alienated? I guess there's more questions to ask here....



Sleep on that....



today sucked... tomorrow will be better for it
11:40pm 07/06/13 Permalink
Linker
Brisbane, Queensland
1764 posts
I work in Qld Govt IT and have been in the Datacentres in the CBD and Springfield. The politicians get a big LOL from any of us if they really think they are dismantling CITEC in 2 years. Most likely they will lease the data centre, but actual migration of systems into IAAS providers will not happen quickly.

Sure, there is a call from the top for us to absolutely start looking into our IAAS options, but if the costs aren't stacking up, that wont be the way things go. It's more than just the hardware and maintenance on it.

Re: Hirings/Firings.. June 30 last year they got rid of most our contractors. The past 6 months, almost the same amount were hired back, and there's a big push to get all this work done again by June 30, since it's likely they won't get renewed again. Who knows what the hell is going on with that. It's frustrating as the contractors actually take work away from competent people leaving them with nothing to do, while the contractor dumps some s***** design and implementation with no handover to operational teams when their contract ends.
12:50am 08/06/13 Permalink
Some Fat Bastard
Brisbane, Queensland
1423 posts
Technology One, one of the largest financial contributors to the LNP and also preferred source for the provision of services under consideration to be outsourced. Coincidence?
09:34am 08/06/13 Permalink
DecayingCorpse
Brisbane, Queensland
2164 posts
Sure, there is a call from the top for us to absolutely start looking into our IAAS options, but if the costs aren't stacking up, that wont be the way things go.

see, you are misguided by the fact that the government doesn't care if the services are provided. we worked this one out in health last year - early this year when they shredded everything and everyone, there was no emphasis on service, only costs.

Coincidence?

wrong word.
cronyism.
09:51am 08/06/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
37068 posts
Technology One, one of the largest financial contributors to the LNP and also preferred source for the provision of services under consideration to be outsourced. Coincidence?
got a citation for that?
09:52am 08/06/13 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
20017 posts
Look up the news articles surrounding Ros Bates before she resigned. It's a widely known secret.
11:13am 08/06/13 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
13807 posts
Doesn't Clive Palmers party want to stop that sort of rawting by reducing by effectively capping the amount for lobbying?
11:31am 08/06/13 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1448 posts
got a citation for that?

Tell me you haven't been in bed with Telstra for 10 years roughly?
12:41pm 08/06/13 Permalink
Some Fat Bastard
Brisbane, Queensland
1424 posts
got a citation for that?
Absolutely.
03:43pm 08/06/13 Permalink
mooby
Brisbane, Queensland
6358 posts
personally, im not a linux fan. but i wish gov would look at using it and open office. makes sense there.
07:48am 09/06/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10032 posts
Trog it doesn't need a citation it's pretty well known they donated money, and I believe broke some limit. Santo Santoro is linked to it somehow also. I believe Santo was also involved in a certain funding for a certain aged care facility?


Also all political party donations can be found at http://periodicdisclosures.aec.gov.au/ ... when it's working.
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