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Electric F1 Racing - FIA Formula E
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
11178 posts
http://www.fiaformulae.com/

The Championship centres around three core values of Energy, Environment and Entertainment and is a fusion of engineering, technology, sport, science, design, music and entertainment - all combining to drive the change towards an electric future.


This is really big news for electric vehicles. Next year a major racing series will begin in 10 major cities, with all cars powered by electricity.

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evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
6666 posts
Are they going to give them fake engine noises or something? Otherwise it will be a very quiet race.
10:24pm 18/09/13 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10174 posts
But far faster than anything petrol can produce.
10:50pm 18/09/13 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
37374 posts
But far faster than anything petrol can produce.
Top speed faster? Or just acceleration faster?
10:56pm 18/09/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6514 posts
Electric Vehicles are evil and are only driven by homosexuals.
11:19pm 18/09/13 Permalink
BiKESEAT
Brisbane, Queensland
381 posts
The team I'm working for at the moment is looking at running in this series.

They won't be particularly quick, slightly less aero than a f3 car so think laptimes around 20 seconds slower than a F1 car.

Whats laughable is you need two cars per driver, so in the race you do 25 minutes in one car and then change to the spare car for another 25 minutes as the batteries only last that long ...
01:59am 19/09/13 Permalink
MurdochMediaConspiracy
Melbourne, Victoria
517 posts
The REAL question is - Will it be as boring as Formula 1?
02:12am 19/09/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
8140 posts
I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes - but I predict it will be a lot like A1GP - no spectators and a minimal television following on second-rate tracks.

It'll be interesting to see how they sound (hah), and it's good to see how Dallara have designed them to be aerodynamically supportive of vehicles behind, so overtaking is possible. But considering they're more at the F3/GP2 speed, this shouldn't be a major factor.


Wait and see, I guess.
07:34am 19/09/13 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
18779 posts
Electric Vehicles are evil and are only driven by homosexuals.


end of thread.
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sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6515 posts
and they are more dangerous to the environment than a Hummer.
07:48am 19/09/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6517 posts
and millions of blind people are slaughtered under the wheels of homosexual electric car drivers every year.
07:55am 19/09/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
8142 posts
Well this got nasty fast.
09:09am 19/09/13 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
6518 posts
and recharging electric cars will put a massive drain on the power grid and force the gubbermint to build more polluting coal power stations that will drive up the price of electricity.
09:22am 19/09/13 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
1919 posts
Electric cars, everything in the series gets transported by petrol vehicles. :I

No real interest in this :\
09:35am 19/09/13 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
18780 posts
Slaps you sound like an electric car driving type
09:41am 19/09/13 Permalink
eK
Brisbane, Queensland
10564 posts
Are they going to give them fake engine noises or something? Otherwise it will be a very quiet race.
Nah they'll just hire very noisy commentators.
10:04am 19/09/13 Permalink
Mantis
Brisbane, Queensland
1174 posts
The 10 hour refueling pitstops might make the race a bit boring.
11:31am 19/09/13 Permalink
mooby
Brisbane, Queensland
6431 posts
im pretty keen on this.
01:06pm 19/09/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
72 posts
The 10 hour refueling pitstops might make the race a bit boring.

Never know, they could have a rackmount set of batteries and they just rack in and out as they need.

(We don't wait for them to throw new tyres on each rim at a pitstop, they change out the whole rim and fix it later.)
01:33pm 19/09/13 Permalink
The GuVna
Brisbane, Queensland
1968 posts
How are they meant to explode when they crash if they don't have any petrol in them?
01:59pm 19/09/13 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
8143 posts
Oh that's cute, you think lithium batteries don't explode. Clearly you've never owned a Dell.
02:02pm 19/09/13 Permalink
Ospi
Brisbane, Queensland
395 posts
It's the route motor racing has to head in unfortunately, at least from an audible point of view. This series may not actually be any better for the environment or costs but it's the start of the development process to improve the tech and make it viable in the future on a wide scale. All the big names are involved from a technical standpoint, Mclaren, Williams and Renault so it's not small time backyard BS.

Pity the cars are beyond horrid (imo).

http://www.fiaformulae.com/gallery/vbig/New_car_2.jpg

That suspension will be working hard wiht such narrow tyre side walls.

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paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
18783 posts
Those tyres aren't even stretched bro
02:32pm 19/09/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
73 posts
I think he's referring to profile, not stretch. It's a good thing though, as beforehand the large sidewalls gave a spongy feel to the car, and it was hardly a tunable characteristic.

Remove all that uncontrolled tyre play, let the suspension take the extra load, then at least you can tune the behavior of the car instead of complaining to a tyre manufacturer to have changes made.
02:47pm 19/09/13 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
7244 posts
they have been racing the "zero emissions" bikes at the iom tt since 2010.

at first they were boring & slow.. but they are pretty fast now. not anywhere near as fast as the petrol bikes.. but still fast. the top teams & the top riders are all involved so it's not a "novelty" class of racing anymore. john mcguiness, one of the fastest tt riders evah, says the electric bikes are about equivalent to a works 2-stroke 125cc bike... so not awesomely powerful but nimble & fairly fast.
03:03pm 19/09/13 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
23413 posts
I reckon the cars look really cool.
03:04pm 19/09/13 Permalink
ph33x
Thailand
74 posts
Battery technology will improve. Let's face it, this is the first very mainstream application where just having any battery won't suffice.

We can make extremely powerful electric motors, we have high current switches, cables, and controllers. The future of these cars is all in the battery, the rest of the tech is old news. Electric motors, wiring, etc.
03:30pm 19/09/13 Permalink
Zakson
Gold Coast, Queensland
519 posts
Technology, Emotion, Show

lolwut. Do we need to be told what racing is about now?

"You see it's electric, so there's no technology involved, and because we'll be using robots, there won't be any emotion. And we'll need to have the lights off and put the tracks in tunnels (to reduce wind resistance) with our energy conservation scheme so you won't see anything."

http://s10.postimg.org/eytg3qlll/electf1.jpg
03:57pm 19/09/13 Permalink
XandraX
Brisbane, Queensland
1178 posts
I think this will go a long way towards making leaps forward in electric car technology, and I'll definitely be watching if it shows on FTA TV (yeah right).
06:27pm 19/09/13 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
4258 posts
Oh that's cute, you think lithium batteries don't explode. Clearly you've never owned a Dell.



pretty sure those batteries (the shipping of) has been the major killer of 747's
06:30pm 19/09/13 Permalink
koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
10128 posts
props to yellow cabs for pushing the envelope, though I'd sooner owner/drivers be allowed to mod their vehicles to electric on the same deal


likewise at work.. our workforce is 99% contractor now. Fuel is their biggest expense. Why isn't Toyota answering our emails on the problem? Hyundai and Mercedes is bending over backwards for us, but there's no commitment to provide. Where is Ford here?? They have electric vans sure but none here in the Aus market.


** we need electric (or hybrid) work vans **NOW** **.


not tomorrow - NOW

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Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
8144 posts
pretty sure those batteries (the shipping of) has been the major killer of 747's

haha, they spend millions of dollars with airport security, scanning everyone, runing them through metal detectors, slowing everyone down, and turns out all I needed to do was click 'Place Order' on dell.com.
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Audi
Perth, Western Australia
410 posts
But far faster than anything petrol can produce.



Faster than petrol? This series the cars are restricted to power saving mode and that's 133kw with a few small push to pass boosts allowed to 200kw. Gonna be f*****g s*** bro. But thanks for the heads up so don't waste my time.

tl;dr looks s*** but I guess they had to start some where.
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