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4x4 tips, info and destinations.
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1257 posts
I just bought my first 4b and am pretty green to the whole experience.

I was hoping you guys who are regulars could give me the links to some better sites so i can have a good read and start the learning process.

hoping to take the wife and the boy up to double island just for the day this weekend.

thanks in advance.

ps pics if interested.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/zzzleepy/hilux/1.jpg?t=1271162659
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/zzzleepy/hilux/4-1.jpg?t=1271162984
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cJay
Brisbane, Queensland
1110 posts
Double Island in that you cant go wrong, just remember to let the tyre pressure down to 15-20psi.
11:52pm 13/04/10 Permalink
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1260 posts
you having me on. surely not that low.
11:54pm 13/04/10 Permalink
iWhoop
Brisbane, Queensland
15976 posts
After watching Top Gear tonight and their jungle adventures I almost want to go get a 4X4 now too. I've been out with my friend a couple of times but from what I've seen the amount of maintenance you have to do on them once you come back, especially if you go through lots of mud & water, kind of turns me off :(
12:00am 14/04/10 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
11543 posts
for cooloola/rainbow I would probably just go down to about 22 because you can do 80kph along most of it unless the tide is in and you don't want the tyres too low at those speeds, especially if you have to swerve or brake hard

but yeh definitely in soft sand 15-20 is not that low

also keep in mind that if you deflate while the tyres are warm/hot off the highway, you will lose about another 4 psi as they cool down off road so take that into account when deflating
12:02am 14/04/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
6687 posts
i drop mine to 16psi for sand

DI / Rainbow etc can't go wrong for a cheap day/weekend away, as it gets colder you'll have less and less neighbours too - if you don't mind huddling around a camp fire
Bribie is alright for a day trip too

take a snatchie and a shovel - not a foldy shovel either, a proper long handled one
don't forget to check that you have the ability to connect the snatchie to the front and back - so you might need a hook or similar, sort that s*** out well before you get to sand
12:03am 14/04/10 Permalink
neffo
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
16505 posts
yep that low. you probably won't need it with those fat tyres more than likely, unless you are driving on the soft stuff the whole time.
12:08am 14/04/10 Permalink
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1261 posts
thanls heaps.

just been looking at recovery and stuff in sand. if im understanding it corretly you dig out in front or behind..whichever you decide is best to get you out of trouble so momentum will get you out.? right?
12:18am 14/04/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
6690 posts
just do what you can to get as much sand away from the tyres as possible
if possible chuck sticks/logs etc under the tyres to give a bit more traction

more often than not you're going to have people around to help pull you out anyway, bribie and di are high traffic
join a 4x4 club too, you'll learn a lot and your trips will be safer as a result

pro tip, momentum is the key on soft sand
12:37am 14/04/10 Permalink
Eds
Brisbane, Queensland
9405 posts
I just bought mine as well, took it up to Bribie on the weekend, tire pressure was around 20PSI most the time, although I dropped it to 16 to get off the beach. Had no issues with getting stuck etc, was a top day.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_XUvD8eDsgJo/S8TffWeFD0I/AAAAAAAACe8/QVebI-UAK8s/23658_386876617043_815277043_3787791_3381206_n.jpg



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hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
7068 posts
you bought a non-turbo diseasel? oh dear...
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3x0dus
Townsville, Queensland
1311 posts
Concur Its the same 2.9/2.8. That they call 3.0 without the turbo it can be horribly gutless had a 92 model. Mind you it was a Great vehicle overall.
08:44am 14/04/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
6691 posts
as my old man once told me "they couldn't pull your d*** out of your pants"
easy to fix though with a turbo kit
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hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
7069 posts
thats right teq

Diesel 3.0L
Power 65 kw
Torque 197 Nm
what a joke

I borrowed a 2000 SR5 dual cab 3.0L diesel 5-speed for a little while
SO F*****G SLOW
and like 13L/100klms as well

old men in crappy old kingswoods/fume spewing XD falcons were beating me in the traffic light grand prix
09:54am 14/04/10 Permalink
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1262 posts
Concur Its the same 2.9/2.8. That they call 3.0 without the turbo it can be horribly gutless had a 92 model. Mind you it was a Great vehicle overall.


i had the same concern after driving the 2000 model hilux diesel work gave me to use for a while. it was gutless as hell.

i live at buderim and you couldnt get better than 3rd gear getting up the hill.


mine though 98 model. powers up the hill great.

but meh.
10:24am 14/04/10 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
2651 posts
Good on you Sleepy. Your going to have a ball bud!

When I first got my 4x4 I bought a book called Dirty Weekends. Its a great book for beginners. Its gives you heaps of tips and places to go in your area. You can pic it up from a lot of places including RACQ.
10:30am 14/04/10 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
11546 posts
yeh I did the same thing, good book
most of the routes are really really easy but a couple of them are good introductions to simple 4wding
10:34am 14/04/10 Permalink
stinky
USA
3430 posts
dirty weekends is a great book. Heaps of nice tracks around brissie on it that won't break your car.
10:52am 14/04/10 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
6694 posts
1+ dirty weekends, good investment
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STEALTHy
Brisbane, Queensland
115 posts
in terms of recovery methods, has anyone used shade cloth on sand for traction? ive heard these can be really effective and act similar to the max trax (obviously not as good, but cost next to nothing). Plus they take up barely any room aswell..
05:57pm 14/04/10 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
2781 posts
By the time you've failed to get yourself from Letting down Tires or digging away a bit of sand, someone will/would have came past offering help. Make sure you know where your recovery points are, have a Statch strap (Good idea to have a Tow Strap as well) and 2 Shackles (One for your car, one for theirs.) Always ask them to try tow you out first, not snatch you. Even if using a Snatch strap. Less wear on Car/Equipment. If you are really stuck though, then snatch it is.

As for the shade cloth, I dare say it would be ruined. However if you bought it just for that purpose and never wanted to use it for a shade. Or you were stuck and it was getting dark, Yeah, it would work about as well as Sticks/Logs. I would look around for some vegetation to destroy before I threw my camping gear under the wheels though.

If you do get stuck, don't sit there and spin the tyres forward. You'll just dig deeper. Smack it in reverse and give it a little bit and see if you can pop out. Not too much though, because again if you start spinning on the spot, you just dig deeper. If reverse doesn't work, then you start digging ;)

Dirty Weekends really cant be recommended enough for beginner Off-roaders. Great starting point and you might meet some like minded people on the trails.

Welcome to the fold.
06:13pm 14/04/10 Permalink
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1264 posts
thanks. very helpful

on shade cloth related
a bloke at work was telling me some shade cloth on top of a tarp when camping at the beach is the way to go.

all the sand falls through and you have a nice unsandy area.



whats the fire situation at DI. yes or no?
08:12pm 14/04/10 Permalink
STEALTHy
Brisbane, Queensland
116 posts
Yeah I dont know many people who actually take shadecloth soley for camping purposes, but its one of those items that could be taken along for obvious reasons and help get you out of trouble. and no I cant imagine anyone wanting to use it after a 2.5t+ 4wd has been ripping it to shreads.

IMO one of the best tools to have (especially when doing beach 4wding) is a portable air compressor & tyre guage (a must). Servos are not always close by to do ur tyres back up when youve let them down to ~10psi if really stuck.

Also as previously mentioned, if you get stuck try rocking backwards and forwards, it can compact the sand and sometimes get you out without needing to start digging with a shovel. ive pretty much covered fraser island solo and the only time i got stuck the rocking method got me out without a problem.

Selecting the right gear from the start is a big help aswell when hitting soft rutty spots as changing gear and losing momentum is where most people fail (along with 40psi low profiled bmw suv's :D).





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