my mate was on his way over last night and drove thought it and said he saw ambos pulling a body from a car.. he said it was so f***ed up he couldn't even tell what kinda of cars were involved except there was one ute..

It's all good people, calm down - I'm still alive

"Just like that"

(Tasmania's answer to 'every k over is a killer')

"Wipe off 5"

(Victoria's answer to 'every k over is a killer')

"Wipe off 5"

what if you're doing 140?

another cyclist (motor or not) bites the dust, through no fault of his own
but these are the risks that they take each time they try to share a road with thousands of tonnes of steel

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/two-motorcyclists-killed-in-brisbane-20100408-rsit.html

Two motorcyclists have died in separate accidents in South East Queensland overnight.

A 28-year-old Wynnum man died instantly when his motorbike crashed into a car in Brisbane's north about 8pm.

He was riding on Sandgate Road at Boondall when he collided with the car at the intersection with Roscommon Road, police said.

The 54-year-old driver of the vehicle received minor injuries and was taken to the Royal Brisbane and Women�s Hospital for treatment.

Boondall? Northgate isn't very close to Boondall, I used to live just off roscommon road

beaten

I guess they're just saying if everyone went 5k's slower than normal, we'd see some kind of result - regardless of whether or not some people are still speeding?

another cyclist (motor or not) bites the dust, through no fault of his own

I missed the part of the article that said the driver of the car was at fault...

I didn't mean to lay blame on either party, but the bike dude was just involved in an accident, a regular accident that could happen to anyone regardless of fault
because he was not encased in steel, he's dead - its that simple

his family will never see him again
I used to race bikes (enduro) as a kid and I f*****g loved it, I still love them
I'll never ride on the road for the simple fact that no matter how good I think I am, it just takes one s***** driver to make a simple mistake and my kid would grow up without a father

bike was speeding = not the ute drivers fault

no sympathy then

Martz, it's called positive reinforcement. You see the ones that stick out; in this case, the squids. What you don't see/pay any attention to are the ones who ride sensibly, wearing protective leathers etc and obey the road rules. You don't notice them consciously, because they're behaving in a manner that isn't anomalous to what you would expect on the road. What you remember are the anomalies.

As a former rider, I think that squids (whether they ride litre-class weapons or 50cc scooters) are idiots and if they get squelched, then it's their own damned fault for not taking precautions. Same goes for riders who speed, f*** around with lane-splitting at high speeds etc.

I feel sorry for riders who get injured or killed through no fault of their own, however most of the time, these riders aren't the ones who get in accidents.

what Gesthemene said. I'm pro bikes but the idiots far outweigh the sensible riders. Much like cars.

yeah i realise that now, i didn't know a bike was involved because the engine was probably the only part the stayed together. They had it closed all the way upto the next set of lights. i guess they were picking up parts of the bike, and the guy.

you remember this?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v437/66/25/536220490/n536220490_2096267_9333.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v437/66/25/536220490/n536220490_2096269_9951.jpg

pics or lying

car written off?

Martz, it's called positive reinforcement. You see the ones that stick out; in this case, the squids. What you don't see/pay any attention to are the ones who ride sensibly, wearing protective leathers etc and obey the road rules. You don't notice them consciously, because they're behaving in a manner that isn't anomalous to what you would expect on the road. What you remember are the anomalies. As a former rider, I think that squids (whether they ride litre-class weapons or 50cc scooters) are idiots and if they get squelched, then it's their own damned fault for not taking precautions. Same goes for riders who speed, f*** around with lane-splitting at high speeds etc. I feel sorry for riders who get injured or killed through no fault of their own, however most of the time, these riders aren't the ones who get in accidents.

Seconded, down here in 'roundabout city' 'cage' drivers just don't look around their vehicles, and will blindly switch lanes with no indication, or merge without looking.

As a relatively new bike rider, you can't practice 'defensive riding' on a bike, it's up to the rider to juggle what I call 'assertive riding' (common sense stuff, don't sit in blind spots, appropriate braking distances etc etc.)

One of my mates now has to have his hip replaced every 4-6 years until the end of time (or hip 2.0) because a P plater blindly turned across an intersection, and then after she'd realised she'd done the wrong thing instead of just planting it to clear the intersection (and avoiding the accident) she stopped in the middle of the intersection setting up a 1.5 ton obstacle. Thanks to his leathers and helmet, he didn't need anything more than some bone surgery, but yea he's not the only twisted wreckage I know.. :\

Whilst it is ultimately the riders choice to ride, there's quite a lot that any road user can learn from riding a bike for a day.

So they mean the intersection at the indian resteraunt or the school?, roscommon is the school, I didn't hear s*** and it happen a few hundred meters away,

and teq the car was definitely a write off.

Same goes for riders who speed, f*** around with lane-splitting at high speeds etc.

Since moving up the coast I do lots of freeway driving, and I reckon in the past 4 months, I've probably been surprised by some twit doing this about 10 times. This doesn't include the time when I actually see then coming.

I just think "corpse on wheels"...

Nothing wrong with riding a bike... the problems arise when you ride it like a d*******.

didn't you live in the valley until a year or two ago?

I had a mate that died at the same intersection. He was also a motorbike rider but was not speeding/being a d***. Car just turned and did not see him. Some old bloke. This was before they installed an arrow.

in the accident you caused

do you want to hear my counter argument? I didn't cause the accident ;)

I was traveling straight ahead, in my lane - someone else merged into my lane and crashed into me
Do you know its illegal to swerve to avoid an accident? if you swerve and cause another accident, you're 100% at fault for that one instead of being 0% at fault for the original one

also, there was no side walk, hence no pedestrians


btw, I really am an awesome driver

It doesn't even remotely sound like it was his fault, having said that, when I first started driving I was saved several times by the competence of other drivers during a merge.

haha yeah I could have braked, but then I wouldn't get to stick it to knobs who shoot up the left lane
I never expected him to merge into my vehicle, I knew I could have stopped and let him get infront of me - even though its not my obligation to do so, in fact the road rules very specifically state that HE has to stop and give way to me
so in my mind, I didn't believe he would really collide with me just because I didn't stop to let him in, but he did and now his cars f***ed :)

if a bike rider is going to be stupid enough to do that and then try to ram a 2 tonne truck with bullbar etc, he's looking for someone to punch his ticket early - natural selection

Would you honestly kill another human being simply because they may have been a bit of a d*** in YOUR opinion?

pretty sure its not just my opinion, others would agree with me that they're wankers
no one ever said anything about killing them either, a bit of metal on metal with two cars heading in the same direction isnt the end of the world

going through life without a pair of testicles however, that would suck

thread he deleted

really? cause it wasn't my thread so I can't delete it
it was someone else asking for advice on what to do after they'd been in a crash and didn't have insurance or something



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