Question about QLD drivers licenses
People
I have held an open driver's license for 6 or 7 years. However, when I did my test, I only went for an automatic license rather than the full manual/automatic as the cars my family owned were all automatics, which meant cheaper/quicker way to get it. I might have access to a manual car for the next few months, and wanted to know whether I need to do anything to be able to drive it legally? The actual driving of it isn't a problem, as I can do that. But I can't seem to find anything on the QLD Transport website about it. I have heard in other states that once you hold an automatic license for several years, you just get bumped it to it after a while. Not sure if that is the same here or not? Does anyone know? Anyone work for QT who can shed some light on it for me? |
08:14pm 03/07/09 Permalink
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=qld+upgrade+automatic+licence
How do I get my licence changed to drive a manual vehicle? |
08:17pm 03/07/09 Permalink
yuo are fail for only getting an auto license
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08:19pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Thanks Epic - as I said, had a good trawl through their site but couldn't find it.
Spook - irrelevant as always. /thread |
08:27pm 03/07/09 Permalink
I have heard in other states that once you hold an automatic license for several years, you just get bumped it to it after a while. Not sure if that is the same here or not? Does anyone know? Anyone work for QT who can shed some light on it for me? What a stupid thing to do. Most people drive an auto because they can't drive a manual and you don't learn to drive a manual by driving an auto. |
08:37pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Yeah does seem strange. Oh well, guess I'll have to pay for the upgrade. I just bought a new 5 year license too, unlucky me.
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08:38pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Pretty sure NSW have the automatic upgrade thingo...
Though I was a skilled driver and got mine on a manual car so it doesn't impact me :p last edited by HeardY at 20:41:30 03/Jul/09 |
08:40pm 03/07/09 Permalink
My bro got busted driving a manual on an auto license. sux2bhim.
edit: Though I was a skilled driver and got mine on a manual car so it doesn't impact me :p Skilled eh? If NSW testers are anything like QLD even unskilled drivers get them. I nailed it through a set of orange traffic lights during my test, I still passed. last edited by whoop at 21:26:41 03/Jul/09 |
09:25pm 03/07/09 Permalink
I don't see how driving an automatic car for a number of years gives you the skills to drive a manual..
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09:35pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Well take it from someone who's done it before
Zak i was in the same situation as you, only ever had automatics in the family (i didn't know what a manual was until i was about 9) and it was easier and cheaper and quicker to get an auto licence, so I did. 12 months later i saw fit to buy a manual car, so i went and did the test again. Was a piece of piss as i already had a year's real experience. Basically i hopped in the car, the QT guy said got your learners there (this was 5+ years ago so i still looked young) and i said its an auto licence actually, and he said 'oh, rightio, umm, ok, well, where do you want to go?' so i just cruised around all the back streets i knew and a few main roads and we were back at the test centre 12 mins later with not a single x on the test. Went in, they printed me a new licence at no charge. Self taught on the manual too, but that's another story. Oh and i think the fine for having an auto licence in a manual is (was) like $30 or something ridiculous cos it falls under the category of 'a learner not being accompanied' or some poop. Oh and all you people who say 'err you're stupid to not get a manual licence what happens if one day you really need to drive one' well it's the same as a truck or motorbike, if i really friggin need to i'll do it anyway licenced or not. Oh and my mum has had an auto licence only for 30+ years and has never had to drive a manual, ever. |
10:01pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Should people learn how to drive or just learn how to pass a test? Getting an automatic license when you're physically capable of changing gears falls under the latter for me. If it's too much effort to learn, driving isn't for you.
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10:13pm 03/07/09 Permalink
learning on your parents car is a s***load cheaper than a driving school
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10:25pm 03/07/09 Permalink
If it's too much effort to learn, driving isn't for you. No, changing gears manually using a clutch and stuff isn't. Driving auto is piss easy, which is why a bunch of people just say "f*** gears im getting an auto license". Even though I know how to drive a manual, i kinda suck at it and just did the above, "f*** this im getting an auto license". I have nothing against manuals, I personally just cannot be bothered having to change gears myself constantly. I'd rather just point and accelerate. Call me lazy or a newb if you want. They didnt invent autos for no reason... /waits-for-"your a driving newb"-flaming... |
10:26pm 03/07/09 Permalink
yeah, i owned a manual car for years, you get pretty good pretty quickly
but i don't think i'll own a manual again, effort++, not for all the city/traffic/peak hour driving i do, seriously, what a joke |
10:31pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Cheers MrHardware. And yeah, same situation as you - I couldn't afford to keep getting manual driving tests, so just did the auto one cheaply. I've only ever owned one car, and it was an auto, so have never had the need for a manual license.
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10:44pm 03/07/09 Permalink
how does changing gears = competent driver?
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10:45pm 03/07/09 Permalink
how does changing gears = competent driver?It's more the attitude of "It's too hard to pass the manual license test, I'll get an auto license instead". |
10:49pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Being able to change gears doesn't make you better at driving a car on the road, it just means you can change gears manually while driving, big deal, its just something extra you can do.
I personally don't see why having to focus on changing gears makes driving any easier so I don't drive them. |
11:00pm 03/07/09 Permalink
frakture, because manual is better?
try driving a v8 supercar or any racing car with an automatic transmission.. |
11:04pm 03/07/09 Permalink
I find that manuals have better control.
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11:16pm 03/07/09 Permalink
yeah if u cant drive a manual "cause its too hard/too much effort" then u cant drive, its that simple. Its not that you need to know how to drive a manual its that u get more of an understanding of how the car feels.
Auto drivers seem to only be able to think of go/stop direction. I blame the emo/metrosexual thing, man up, drive a manual f***. |
11:27pm 03/07/09 Permalink
^^ Couldnt afford manual lessons because family only owned auto cars and i was a student. Go f*** yourself.
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11:39pm 03/07/09 Permalink
I prefer an auto in stop/start traffic, the constant 1st to 2nd shift and back again every 2 seconds pisses me off (I usually drive a stick).
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11:41pm 03/07/09 Permalink
yeah if u cant drive a manual "cause its too hard/too much effort" then u cant drive, its that simple. Its not that you need to know how to drive a manual its that u get more of an understanding of how the car feels. LOLWUT. Changing gears says NOTHING about ability to drive a car and drive it well. A car should change its own gears. Its the car's responsibility to manage how it gains speed. You should just tell it how fast (accelerator). People who want to change manually can get a manual, otherwise, I don't see any reason why people "have to" be able to change gears to be a good driver. Manual merely gives you more control of the gears. For most drivers, theres absolutely no need to have complete control over which gear the engine is using. last edited by 3dee at 23:44:48 03/Jul/09 |
11:43pm 03/07/09 Permalink
Skilled eh? If NSW testers are anything like QLD even unskilled drivers get them. I nailed it through a set of orange traffic lights during my test, I still passed. That's crap! I failed my first test because I was speeding! All I was going was merging with traffic and had to plant the foot in the little mirage. That been said I prefer to drive a manual. I don't drive much in peak hour traffic so that really isn't an issue for me. I just like to have that little bit more control over the car. When it changes gears, the choice to slap it back two gears, I dunno, just prefer it over auto's. I also do have 2 auto's here at home and it's not like I don't like driving them. Great cars to drive but they get boring to drive. |
01:22am 04/07/09 Permalink
frakture, because manual is better?automatic transmissions were banned in formula one, you're only allowed semi-automatic an automatic or semi-automatic designed for the type of driving you're claiming a manual is better for, will typically s*** all over a human+manual - especially a pleb driver who doesn't actually race professionally |
01:34am 04/07/09 Permalink
It should be illegal to get an auto only license. You should have to get your manual then you can drive an auto if you want to. If you can't get your manual license then you shoudln't be driving at all, no questions.
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01:40am 04/07/09 Permalink
it's not logical to state that it should be illegal to get an auto only license, because it shouldn't be illegal as there's no rational reason for it to be. this is most likely why it isn't illegal.
saying that if you can't get a manual license then you shouldn't be driving at all is equally illogical because the rational conclusion is that if you can't get your manual license, you shouldn't be driving a manual - but it's fine for you to drive an auto, because you have an auto license. |
01:50am 04/07/09 Permalink
^ I was generalising. What I meant is that you should have to get your manual license without being able to go for your auto in the first place. If you want to drive an auto after you pass your manual, then go for it. If you cannot get your manual license, you should not be allowed to drive until you pass the manual test. Auto licenses are for the weak and it would weed out a lot of s*** drivers. The other reason being in an emergency if you need to drive a manual you can, 1) legally, 2) you'll know how to. The Auto license only option is there for thr s***k***s who cannot drive and subsequently, shouldn't be allowed on the road imo.
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02:13am 04/07/09 Permalink
On a totally different note: QLD is the only state that asks what skin complexion you are when you go to apply/renew your license. (according to my NSW friends who found it funny when I told them about it)
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02:38am 04/07/09 Permalink
but it's not logical to state that you should have to get your manual license without being able to go for your auto in the first place, or that if you cannot get your manual license, you should not be allowed to drive until you pass the manual test.
or even that auto licenses are for the weak, or that your irrational position would weed out a lot of s*** drivers. nor is it logical to attempt to support your position with the idea that some kind of emergency where you need to drive a manual but can't because it's illegal, would actually be an issue that warrants more than token consideration before being tossed aside as being almost as inconsequential as the idea that we should all learn how to fly a helicopter in case there's an emergency and can 1) legally fly one, 2) know how to |
02:47am 04/07/09 Permalink
Reading QGL at late night while on holidays was a bad idea on the basis of this thread so I feel like I need to contribute something as equally as retarded as this argument
http://i39.tinypic.com/140ak40.jpg GLORIOUS NIPPON TEREBI |
03:00am 04/07/09 Permalink
learning on your parents car is a s***load cheaper than a driving school if you're parents know how to drive to the book. |
08:53am 04/07/09 Permalink
only poor people drive manuals.
edit: actually my BMW is 6 speed steptronic so I can chuck it into manual whenever but sif you would really. last edited by infi at 09:31:32 04/Jul/09 |
09:08am 04/07/09 Permalink
The gateway motorway at rush hour convinced me to get an automatic. Never looked back. Sure, occasionally I miss the ability to chuck it into second or third and hoon around a corner, but for the most part automatic gearboxes rule. I had to drive my brother's car (which is a manual) a while ago and what a mission! It's the 21st century and I was being asked to tell the car which gear to use? SIF
Manual: left hand required for gear selection. Auto: left hand free to hold my morning coffee - illegally, sure, but better than steering with my knees while holding coffee and changing gears! See? Progress! Safety! And caffeine. Mmm, caffeine... /heads off to the kettle |
09:23am 04/07/09 Permalink
edit: actually my BMW is 6 speed steptronic so I can chuck it into manual whenever but sif you would really. it's not manual.. do you have to press a clutch? |
10:13am 04/07/09 Permalink
you might as well have gotten a merc if you're not gonna really drive it infi :)
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10:13am 04/07/09 Permalink
why do they even make manual's anymore? So all the revhead d*******s can do fully sick drags cause everyone knows a manual beats an auto....TOSSERS. |
10:26am 04/07/09 Permalink
Oh and all you people who say 'err you're stupid to not get a manual licence what happens if one day you really need to drive one' well it's the same as a truck or motorbike uh actually, its nothing like that you're more likely going to have to drive someone else home in their own /manual/ car than their truck or on their motorbike |
10:33am 04/07/09 Permalink
f*** mercs, i want style.
clutching is too much effort. |
10:34am 04/07/09 Permalink
I prefer manuals because they are usually cheaper and I can roll start them. I don't do much driving in traffic so its never been an issue. I want an auto diesel for my next car tho.
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10:46am 04/07/09 Permalink
uh actually, its nothing like thatand likewise, you're far more likely to just be driving around your own auto than you are to have to drive someone else's manual |
10:46am 04/07/09 Permalink
autos are obviously better cause you can more easily use your mobile and Ipod while driving without worrying about changing gears
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11:10am 04/07/09 Permalink
What if you don't have access to a manual car?
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12:40pm 04/07/09 Permalink
otherwise healthy and normal people who don't have manual licenses are f*****g hilarious. Seriously there's no excuse, its a life fail. Yeah, it is pretty lame and embarrassing. |
01:01pm 04/07/09 Permalink
That's no excuse unless you have nobody in your network of good friends and family who has a manual car - which either means you have very few people close to you, or your peeps all suck too.
Seriously, lets look at some life skills / achievements of varying difficulty: So where does being able to drive a manual car fit in you reckon? It would in my mind be one of the simplest and easiest skills to attain, requiring only access to a very common commodity and time / effort. Its more difficult to learn to swim. You require better balance and co-ordination to ride a bicycle. I'd be ashamed to admit I couldn't do something as simple as operate a manual car, its only one step away from not being able to drive at all. I don't agree you should have to learn it (nobody should have to learn to ride a bike either) but its just such a basic skill! |
01:05pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Changing gears was the easiest thing for me when I started driving, so I've never really understood why some people find it so difficult - knew a girl at uni who'd been trying to get her manual license for about 5 years and was still bunny hopping :S I've never driven an auto though, so I can't say I don't like driving them. I like changing gears so I'll probably always stick to manuals. I don't think there's anything wrong with driving an auto, but even if I was only ever going to drive autos, I would still have gotten my manual license anyway.
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01:09pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Right on Hogfather, its not that knowing how to drive a manual makes you a better driver, its the fact that if you cant think about driving a manual while doing the other things required to drive, then your overall driving skill is probably pretty low.
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01:31pm 04/07/09 Permalink
autos aren't craptastic at all for 4wding, in a lot of situations they are better than a manual. even in comp trucks a lot of the guys are using autos now
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01:38pm 04/07/09 Permalink
just have a decent transmission cooler so the auto dosnt overheat and have you stuck somewhere you don't want to be stuck.
the new 4wd autos with the Hold button for the current gear are pretty caw. (i still prefer manual) last edited by 3x0dus at 13:48:58 04/Jul/09 |
01:47pm 04/07/09 Permalink
yeh mine's a manual but I know a lot of blokes with autos who do just fine, and in some situations better than those with manuals
in fact until I installed 85% reduction gears a couple of years ago I would've been better off with an auto, I burnt out the factory clutch at 20,000k's and the replacement at 38,000 because of the type of terrain and the weight of the vehicle vs it's engine. blokes with the same vehicle in auto don't have the same issue |
01:55pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Honestly, I never really took the time to learn manual. I had a few lessons in manual after practising in autos for 6 or so months, knew how to drive manual, but I just hated it. I woulda rather just f*****g accelerated and steered, so I went straight and got an auto license and have never even touched a manual since.
I'm sure I'd be able to drive one (though prolly pretty rough) in a situation as knowing how is not my problem, its just that I hate manual gear changing and never bothered to get good at it. |
02:42pm 04/07/09 Permalink
I woulda rather just f*****g accelerated and steered Exactly, thats the problem with auto only drivers. |
02:49pm 04/07/09 Permalink
that's not a problem at all though
you're clinging to an emotional ideal |
02:56pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Well.. yeah.
But more accurately, I CBF. Auto is like using "wizard" software or having your own roadie (which I wish I did). This whole "Oh you have to drive manual because its "hip" and "cool" and your dumb if you cant." thing is f*****g stupid. last edited by 3dee at 15:09:03 04/Jul/09 |
03:05pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Yeah that's right 3dee
nearly all the drag cars are autos, cos they can't afford the downtime of a manual. |
04:54pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Changing a vehicle's gears manually using a clutch pedal and a gear stick in the modern age of computers and automation is a basic life skill? So you can't have life without manual automotive gearbox operational knowledge?
I seem to get by absolutely fine without the skill of driving a manual. |
05:12pm 04/07/09 Permalink
needing to drive a manual is a phase that has come and gone. the fact is that the vast majority of the cars on the road are automatic, and you'll spend 99% of your driving time driving your own vehicle anyway, of which most people who are going to buy a modern car are going to buy an auto anyway.
I like manuals. They're fun. Manuals have their place. Driving a manual is personal choice, and it's not stupid. But thinking that someone is somehow retarded for choosing not to learn how to drive one in this day and age is a stupid thought. |
05:16pm 04/07/09 Permalink
2 years of sitting in peak hour traffic on the Bruce/Gympie Road/Kelvin Grove Road/ICB/Gateway in a manual (V8 heavy clutch at that) made me realise how awesome it is now to have an auto.
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05:17pm 04/07/09 Permalink
haha this has turned into a car thread.
you can easily spot the car nuts from the normal joes. |
05:22pm 04/07/09 Permalink
I don't have a manual license either
I can drive a manual car no worries tho.. I drove one to work almost every day for a year (had learners and I was driving someone MOST of the time). I had to drive thru peak hour city traffic most of the time and it sucked balls; I'll never buy a manual car. |
05:38pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Yeah but dont u feel like a girl when u have to say "I only have an auto licence i cant drive your car"
I love autos 2, both my car were auto's for ages, cause when u do lots of driving an auto with cruise control is awesome. But seriously auto licence=gay |
05:44pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Yeah but dont u feel like a girl when u have to say "I only have an auto licence i cant drive your car"Nah, it's come up like once in the last 10 years (...and I drove it anyway, for like 5 minutes but I still felt super guilty and paranoid the wholllllleeee time and hopefully won't ever do it again). |
05:53pm 04/07/09 Permalink
maybe if you have a little c*** and are worried about being mistaken for a girl or something? I dunno it's your story
personally, I'm pretty comfortable being a bloke without needing to show my driver's license |
05:54pm 04/07/09 Permalink
thats it kiddies
do it because you have to conform |
05:54pm 04/07/09 Permalink
So did you get for your manual license Zak? :P Not yet. Need to find out whether a) I'm going to get to use the car first, and b) How best to get it down here from Hervey Bay. |
05:58pm 04/07/09 Permalink
nah you're being a dill hoggles Well, not really Jimbo. In true QGL tradition I'm overstating my point, but I really do think that everyone should know how to drive a manual icar. I don't personally give a s*** what people choose and think that declarations one way or the other are a bit silly. There's no reason not to learn and every reason to have this simple skill. |
06:33pm 04/07/09 Permalink
autos are fine for spastics and women
anyone who isnt in the above two categories that doesnt drive a manual should have a long hard look at themselves |
06:34pm 04/07/09 Permalink
S***** gridlock/peak hour is the only legit excuse.
Besides what Spook already covered. |
06:43pm 04/07/09 Permalink
another couple of micropenif clinging to a stick to compensate - ironically only for themselves
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06:50pm 04/07/09 Permalink
driving a manual is hard for some people jimmy, i dont think less of you for not trying*
*yes i do |
06:56pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Bah Jim!
My first Sigma didn't have first gear or a handbrake. Epic hill starts, these auto noobs couldn't pull that s*** off. |
06:57pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Autos are a god send for parents and those who deal with rush hour traffic
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07:06pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Hahaha ashamed to have an auto license? Jesus christ sad f****. Never learnt manual cause couldnt afford it (no one i knew had a manual car so didnt see the point). Dont see any motivation to get it now other than internet heros saying its cool, and u'd have to be a f***en little d***less b**** to care about that kinda s***.
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07:07pm 04/07/09 Permalink
:D
been driving manuals for 20 years, that's why I know it aint no thang unless you're mentally pre-pubescent |
07:11pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Just means you're a bum Jim.
Lazy bum. |
07:13pm 04/07/09 Permalink
I mean... if the almight trogdor has an auto license, it must be alright though, yeah? Hello? trogs is pretty crap at a lot of things driving and cars are at the top of the list of things he is crap at |
07:25pm 04/07/09 Permalink
FYI most cars in europe are manual (nothing beats a sweeping generalisation :p)
Auto's seem to be the 'non standard' however back home manual seem to be the 'non standard'. Almost all cars I've been in (including taxi's!!!) are manual, I am talking 95%+ Auto's are awesome for being lazy. Manual's 'back in the day' were handier for more 'control' i.e. downgear to help with breaking etc etc however most modern cars have good brakes and abs and all that new s***e no need to downgear etc. I still think it's kinda important to know how to drive a manual, but it's hardly a life or death issue... I would have thought most people would want to learn in case they are in a position of having to drive one at some stage... |
08:35pm 04/07/09 Permalink
I personally don't see why having to focus on changing gears makes driving any easier so I don't drive them.After a short period of time if you still have to focus on changing gears in a manual, you shouldn't be driving. |
09:05pm 04/07/09 Permalink
Everyone to their own.
Personally I drive a bit of both and I find I become really lazy (notice the "i" not a generalisation about "everyone") and less aware of the road conditions etc when driving the auto but there are many factors which could include the difference in cars (auto hybrid honda civic vs manual straight cut dccd wrx) etc. I prefer driving the manual but I guess only really cause I grew up driving them on the property. |
09:19am 06/07/09 Permalink
yeah clubby i can see a couple of factors a little bit greater than transmission when it comes to those two rides that might affect sleepiness or not
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09:22am 06/07/09 Permalink
the minority of auto drivers who are just so clueless that they can barely drive an auto are the ones who give auto drivers a bad wrap
these are the same people who would lose a hand if they were mulching trees and the machine didn't have a "warning: dont put your hand in here" sign |
09:28am 06/07/09 Permalink
True but I still think that having to change gears etc keeps me more ummm "awake" if you want to put it that way.
Keeps my mind on the job more cause I am doing stuff rather than just sitting and steering. |
09:32am 06/07/09 Permalink
Nothing wrong with driving auto's.
No reason to get an auto only license unless you're A. noob B. lazy C. have a vagina D. 3dee (all of the above) |
09:34am 06/07/09 Permalink
Not being able to drive an auto well means you probably deserve the Darwin award.
I don't find that driving an auto makes me a lazy driver in that sense or an 'unalert' driver. I suppose it gives me more time to focus on my surroundings and whatnot, but then again, driving an auto makes driving pretty relaxed and easy, which is what I want driving to be. Even if manual driving was second nature to me, I still wouldn't want to do it in traffic. But then again, driving is a subjective experience. Some find it easy, some find it fun, some find it a chore and some find it difficult. last edited by 3dee at 09:40:17 06/Jul/09 |
09:39am 06/07/09 Permalink
Peak hour traffic is the only thing I hate about driving a manual
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09:55am 06/07/09 Permalink
Yeah I dont think its the act of driving a manual that makes you a better driver, its the fact that if you tried to learn a manual and it was too hard so you just got an auto only licence, then you probably lack skill in other driving areas, like being able to do multiple things at once etc.
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10:01am 06/07/09 Permalink
Yeah I dont think its the act of driving a manual that makes you a better driver, its the fact that if you tried to learn a manual and it was too hard so you just got an auto only licence, then you probably lack skill in other driving areas, like being able to do multiple things at once etc.that's such an obnoxious needlessly offensive attitude it just makes me think people that get manual licenses must all be losers with amazing superiority complexes, now |
10:03am 06/07/09 Permalink
Again I think there are way more factors than the transmission or how good a driver you are in a particular style of vehicle.
Try driving a 3 plate button clutch in traffic :) but then again cruising through the hills from personal experience we have found the auto's to chew the fuel quicker. It is close minded to say one is better than the other cause it is situational. I guess the main advantage to getting a manual licence is you are not limiting yourself to what you can drive -eg- friends cars if you have to etc and they are manual even if you don't want one. |
10:04am 06/07/09 Permalink
Well the thing is... With an auto I can do (if not legally) all kinds of other s*** like changing CDs, loading up maps on my phone, reading email, holding macca's coke and stuff. I do it in the safest possible way (which still doesn't make it legal), but its still win.
Its like having a dual core with one core doing jack all. last edited by 3dee at 10:10:17 06/Jul/09 |
10:06am 06/07/09 Permalink
I took my test in an auto. I never even considered a manual. I'd never been in a manual car, or seen one, or know anything about them. They don't ask you at the place 'would you like a manual test?', they don't give you any pamphlet explaining what manual is. Nobody ever made that suggestion to me. I didn't even think about whether my car was auto or manual because the only kind of car I know is an auto.
Luckily the lady who prints the licence for you also does not ask "was the test manual/auto" because they gave me a licence that does not specify 'automatic' or anything like that. So I assume if I ever find a car from the 1930s without automatic I will be able to drive it. Conversely at the toll booths they don't explain that 'manual' and 'automatic' does not refer to what kind of car you have. That is really f*****g confusing, as I pull up to the 'automatic' one with a note and they have a problem with that - but I do drive an automatic. Perhaps they should choose more appropriate terminology. |
10:13am 06/07/09 Permalink
if having a manual licence makes you a better person than having an automatic licence then i must be super-awesome-o with my manual car, motorcycle & light rigid licenses! :P & then other people with medium & heavy rigid, heavy combination & multi-combination licenses must be the BEST PPL EVA!@#! AMIRITE!?!? :P~~
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10:18am 06/07/09 Permalink
Yeah I dont think its the act of driving a manual that makes you a better driver, its the fact that if you tried to learn a manual and it was too hard so you just got an auto only licence, then you probably lack skill in other driving areas, like being able to do multiple things at once etc. Pretty much. It's not the fact that you're driving an auto or want to drive an auto that makes you a noob... its the auto license. It's either. A. Manual was too hard = you fail, get off the road B. You're just lazy = s***** attitude, get off the road Everyone should get a manual license, regardless of what type of car you're going to drive. |
10:18am 06/07/09 Permalink
apparently so demon. by having a heavy articulated it makes you the most skilled person in the whole entire universe.
oh and you're 100% ignorant chub. for most people there's no point in being certified in a skill that they most likely will never need to use. last edited by Mr Hardware at 10:23:14 06/Jul/09 |
10:20am 06/07/09 Permalink
for most people there's no point in being certified in a skill that they most likely will never need to use. Should tell that to uni's, they specialise in certifying people for crap they will never use. Conversely at the toll booths they don't explain that 'manual' and 'automatic' does not refer to what kind of car you have. I understand if you haven't ever been exposed to these that this would be confusing but I still lol'd. Now I have that stupid tune from the ad stuck in my head. last edited by Clubby at 10:32:58 06/Jul/09 |
10:31am 06/07/09 Permalink
yeh it's odd... generally the truckies i know aren't scintillating personalities... but they have the phat licences!! HOW CAN THIS BE?!?!? surely they should be able to flawlessly perform 17 complex functions whilst rubbing thier tummies n patting thier heads, proving beyond any doubt thier state government approved awesomeness!?!? ;p
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10:31am 06/07/09 Permalink
that's such an obnoxious needlessly offensive attitude it just makes me think people that get manual licenses must all be losers with amazing superiority complexes, now Realy?, that was the least offensive way I could have said that. I still think its true though. If u just didnt even bother to try and get a manual licence then thats kinda different, you probably could drive a manual, its realy not that hard, but if u tried and tried and couldnt do it then in my opinion, chances are you are probably a bad driver, even in an auto. So I assume if I ever find a car from the 1930s without automatic I will be able to drive it. There realy are alot of manuals still around these days. Auto 4 cylinder cars are the worst thing ever, gutless pieces of crap, i'd never even consider getting a 4 cylinder auto. Also, if I didnt have an manual licence I wouldnt have my current job, or wouldnt have gotten the company car, cause they are all manuals. |
10:32am 06/07/09 Permalink
i'm hoping that post of thermite's is a troll or something
he wonders why i call him a deads*** |
10:35am 06/07/09 Permalink
Auto 4 cylinder cars are the worst thing ever, gutless pieces of crap, i'd never even consider getting a 4 cylinder auto.You haven't driven a a modern 4-cyl with a 5- or 6-speed manual have you. |
10:38am 06/07/09 Permalink
. by having a heavy articulated it makes you the most skilled person in the whole entire universe. More than Darth Vader? oh and you're 100% ignorant chub. for most people there's no point in being certified in a skill that they most likely will never need to use. I did a games programming degree then got over gaming. Go figure... |
10:43am 06/07/09 Permalink
Aren't you a drummer 3dee?
Perhaps this whole auto business makes sense :D |
11:09am 06/07/09 Permalink
I work for Telstra and program tools and macros (go figure).
Yes I'm a drummer. don't know how that really makes any difference _/(0_0)\_ I hate studying and due dates. In other words, I hate stress and chore-like tasks. Eh, everyone's different. |
11:16am 06/07/09 Permalink
when I can play drums better than danny carey, I'll happily start mocking drummers
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11:17am 06/07/09 Permalink
nah but I have played them occasionally
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11:21am 06/07/09 Permalink
If anything you expect drummers (im a drummer too) to be able to learn a manual pretty easy, its foot and hand co-ordination that drummers would already do pretty well.
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11:23am 06/07/09 Permalink
1st sensible thing viper has said all thread
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11:26am 06/07/09 Permalink
If anything you expect drummers (im a drummer too) to be able to learn a manual pretty easy, its foot and hand co-ordination that drummers would already do pretty well.dude seriously stop talking up driving a manual car like it's something that's actually hard to do |
11:30am 06/07/09 Permalink
steer with knees Hehehe reminded me of the Mr Bean skit where he is on his way to the dentist (was going to youtube link but am being lazy). |
11:36am 06/07/09 Permalink
That being said, drumming doesn't automatically qualify someone as liking or easily picking up coordination of manual gears.
Like I said, I know how to work a manual gearbox (though I never got good at it), but I just didn't like it. I tend to like things to be easy and enjoyable regardless of whether I know how to execute a task, and driving auto is no exception. Its just... easy to drive an auto. There's no effort or chore-ness involved (such as heavy traffic). I don't really care if that makes me lazy or whatever, because its my choice as a free-thinking human with my own personality to not bother with having the ability to use a manual gearbox. Its not a skill I've ever required. Drumming is not a skill I require, but it makes life easy and interesting and fun, so I pursue it. I'm sure after two or three months of solid driving, I'd be fairly good at it, but I honestly have no reason to bother at this point since I rarely ever drive anyone else's car and don't have the desire to use a manual. last edited by 3dee at 11:41:54 06/Jul/09 |
11:40am 06/07/09 Permalink
It's funny in all the posts I've seen paveway make he never has anything constructive to say about the topic, just picks a random insulting word, uses it incorrectly, and makes no supporting argument relevant to his opinion or the discussion at hand. What is the point.
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11:43am 06/07/09 Permalink
IMO its always a good idea to be able to have the option of driving a manual if you're required to.
Hypothetical: You go somewhere with a mate who drives a manual car, they get injured and you have to drive them to hospital. If you never learnt they are s*** out of luck or are going to have to deal with you kangaroo hopping the car down the road. Oh but I'll just call an ambulance, still gonna take time for it to get there. If it was life or death that time may count. Happened to me, out riding BMX with a mate, smashed my collarbone apart and he drove me to the hospital in my manual car, no problems cause he learnt to drive a manual. That said I own an auto car. Why? Because manual cars f*****g suck in traffic. My "fun" vehicles - motorcycles are manual, if I had a "fun" car it would also be manual. last edited by rubba-chikin at 11:47:33 06/Jul/09 |
11:44am 06/07/09 Permalink
stop talking up driving a manual car like it's something that's actually hard to do I didnt think I was?, I think I even said it was pretty easy. |
11:53am 06/07/09 Permalink
Eh. Essentially its just a personal choice. Some people are really dumb drivers and can't even drive an auto properly, some don't like manual and just drive auto, some like manual but prefer auto, some like manual and some hate autos with a passion (as seen on this forum).
Its called free-will. I for one, have not at all been hindered by my choice to just go auto. Manual's pretty much don't apply to anything I do and so lacking that skill doesn't mean anything to me. |
11:59am 06/07/09 Permalink
If you can't drive a manual you should be killed
Driving an automatic is fine, but the co-ordination required to drive a manual car is seriously f*****g low and if you can't achieve that I definitely think you are wasting oxygen IMO :) |
12:36pm 06/07/09 Permalink
Driving an automatic is fine, but the co-ordination required to drive a manual car is seriously f*****g low and if you can't achieve that I definitely think you are wasting oxygen I don't f*****g care if its easy. I don't need or want to drive a manual. So I'm not gonna waste time learning. |
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01:23pm 06/07/09 Permalink
you dont have points to, you accrue them afaik.
accrue to many in a 12month period and then u get it taken off you/suspended. http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Licensing/Driver_licence/Licence_demerit_points/ & http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Licensing/Driver_licence/Licence_demerit_points/Open_licence/ last edited by 3x0dus at 17:44:13 06/Jul/09 last edited by 3x0dus at 17:45:27 06/Jul/09 |
05:42pm 06/07/09 Permalink
0, you're allowed to accumulate 12 before they will take your license off you
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05:42pm 06/07/09 Permalink
Well, in the end my GF broke up with me over the weekend, so it's actually become a redundant enquiry. Thank you for the help anyways, and glad I was able to start such an active thread.
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06:04pm 06/07/09 Permalink
Was it cos you couldn't drive a manual? Haha buuuuuuuuuurnnnnnnnnnn.
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06:05pm 06/07/09 Permalink
yes
dw 3dee, i think i'm the only one in this thread who's seen all sides of the story, ie had an auto only licence then a manual licence, and owned both manual and automatic cars. and i will guarantee that manuals are hugely overrated and if you choose not to drive them you ain't missing out on too much. |
06:16pm 06/07/09 Permalink
I might have access to a manual car for the next few months haha you didn't plan to go out with her very long did you? |
06:23pm 06/07/09 Permalink
yeah, and what tequila said is exactly right too. By and large i enjoyed my time with a manual. That being said i don't think i'll buy a manual again - certainly not for my main car.
I seem to have an ever revolving door of what car i have as my second car - i'm onto my third different one in 6 months. I wonder what i'll get next.... |
06:32pm 06/07/09 Permalink
jesus that sucks Zak, assume she is still over in London?
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09:05pm 06/07/09 Permalink
Yeah still there. Part of the reason for it I guess - still not sure when she wants to come home, whats she wants to do, etc. 6 years together, so you never know what might happen if/when she comes back.
Enjoy the cricket you bastard! |
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