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Car Rego increase!!
HyperJ
Brisbane, Queensland
129 posts
I am loving the increase in car registration, a year ago it cost me $567.20, 12 months later they want $670.45....18.2% increase
I can't work out if its the CTP or the registration fee which has increased so much, which company do you guys go with for CTP? (mine is currently suncorp)

Wouldn't be so bothered if it wasn't for the fact that i destroyed an alloy wheel and expensive tyre on a bloody huge crater of a pot-hole on the gateway.
11:08pm 14/06/09 Permalink
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Persay
Brisbane, Queensland
5591 posts
registration fee went heaps

anna is a ho
11:11pm 14/06/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
12536 posts
she is a dirty ho fo sho
11:19pm 14/06/09 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
14073 posts
Yeah it costs me something like $600 to rego my SMALL car, I'm fearing the day the rego renewal comes for my v8 ute.
11:19pm 14/06/09 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
16065 posts
the cost of rego on a v8 is a bit of a joke, but its ok as its going toward such a good cause.
11:24pm 14/06/09 Permalink
Damo
Brisbane, Queensland
3771 posts
Don't wanna know what it will be for a turbo diesel.. :(
11:24pm 14/06/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
12537 posts
well its based on cylinders so you can figure out surely.
11:25pm 14/06/09 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
641 posts
$135 to rego my bike :D

Epic Win
11:28pm 14/06/09 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
2972 posts
yeah i paid rego recently, what the

fuggen money stealing govt
11:37pm 14/06/09 Permalink
Dodgymon
Brisbane, Queensland
1411 posts
I have 8 registered vehicles.
Anna can go FOAD!
12:02am 15/06/09 Permalink
mooby
Brisbane, Queensland
4878 posts
Wouldn't be so bothered if it wasn't for the fact that i destroyed an alloy wheel and expensive tyre on a bloody huge crater of a pot-hole on the gateway.

it'll be the CTP. about $40$44.45 goes to traffic improvment.

fees

last edited by mooby at 08:15:29 15/Jun/09
08:13am 15/06/09 Permalink
louie
Brisbane, Queensland
55 posts
and its like only $250-$300 to register in victoria or tasmania?
yay for us !!!!
08:31am 15/06/09 Permalink
Boxhead
Brisbane, Queensland
12026 posts
first time ever im paying more for rego then my insurance.
08:35am 15/06/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
4716 posts
and its like only $250-$300 to register in victoria or tasmania?
yay for us !!!!


~$500 for my car but it's not based on cylinders or size - just a car registration fee. My last QLD rego cost something near $900 because it's a V8 :(
08:39am 15/06/09 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
1683 posts
and its like only $250-$300 to register in victoria or tasmania?
yay for us !!!!

You're f**n tripping dude. It was about $550 for my small 4-cyl sedan.

Edit: $549.80 to be precise. Good guess with the $550 ;-)
09:25am 15/06/09 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
2161 posts
Wouldn't be so bothered if it wasn't for the fact that i destroyed an alloy wheel and expensive tyre on a bloody huge crater of a pot-hole on the gateway.


Don't be bothered then because rego doesn't get spent on toll roads, tolls get spent on toll roads.
09:27am 15/06/09 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
3675 posts
Yeah last time I rego'd it was roughly $650 for 12 months, this time it was $370 for 6 months (so roughly $740!).. Liek wtf
09:27am 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2417 posts
this has been happening for decades
s*** goes up in price, then we start getting paid more
when we start getting paid more
s*** goes up in price again

circle of life
09:43am 15/06/09 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
1688 posts
this has been happening for decades
s*** goes up in price, then we start getting paid more
when we start getting paid more
s*** goes up in price again

circle of life

I'm failing at step 2 - the getting paid more bit.
09:46am 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2418 posts
while (notgettingpaidenough) {

wait or /change_jobs;

}
09:53am 15/06/09 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
642 posts
^ LOL
10:11am 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5039 posts
Old QLD Prices
$550/$650/$760 for 4/6/8cyl respectively, depending on CTP insurer
New QLD Prices
$640/$740/$850 for 4/6/8cyl respectively, depending on CTP insurer

Just remember rego has gone down in the past 5 years or so. I remember paying $707 for a 6-cyl back in about 2003/2004.
10:12am 15/06/09 Permalink
CHUB
Brisbane, Queensland
5257 posts
Just remember rego has gone down in the past 5 years or so.
It's only going to go up from now on though till our massive debt starts getting repaid.
10:17am 15/06/09 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
3677 posts
while (notgettingpaidenough) {

wait or /change_jobs;

}

And for some very sad people:

if (pay < enoughPay)
    exit(1);
10:33am 15/06/09 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
6390 posts
Much <3 for bike rego :D
10:40am 15/06/09 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
4401 posts
my bike rego has been cheap for ages coz my bike was single seat (~214/12months) ... dreading finding out what dual seat rego is for my new bike :/ ... find out in october!
10:48am 15/06/09 Permalink
HyperJ
Brisbane, Queensland
130 posts
while (notgettingpaidenough) {

wait() || changeJobs() || becomeMaleProstitute();

}



fixed it for you
10:49am 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2419 posts
wtf, they charge you for dual seat rego on bikes?!@

edit: its the CTP that matters for dual/single seat rego
makes sense I guess

last edited by tequila at 10:54:32 15/Jun/09
10:52am 15/06/09 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
2163 posts
It's only going to go up from now on though till our massive debt starts getting repaid.


This increase was announced in December and thus, was not directly related to the "massive debt". The increase starts on 1 July so that's why people are starting to really complain about it now.
10:53am 15/06/09 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
3678 posts
while (notgettingpaidenough) {

wait() || changeJobs() || becomeMaleProstitute();

if (timeDelta > years(5)) exit(1);

}


haha
10:54am 15/06/09 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
4403 posts
wtf, they charge you for dual seat rego on bikes?!@

not really... you get cheaper CTP insurance for single seat coz it doesn't have to cover the pillion passenger.
10:54am 15/06/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
4717 posts
Yeh teq, it's the circle of life.

Just remember rego has gone down in the past 5 years or so. I remember paying $707 for a 6-cyl back in about 2003/2004.


I've never had my rego go down in price since I got my first car in the late 90s.
10:54am 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5042 posts
yeah, true story man. It jumped substantially from 1999 to 2003/2004 then has subsided slightly since then until now.
11:00am 15/06/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
4718 posts
S*** I must've missed it or didn't notice - glad to see a small (brief) change in the circle of life for a change though.
11:23am 15/06/09 Permalink
HyperJ
Brisbane, Queensland
131 posts
just think, if they hadnt bothered giving everybody cash handouts, this probably wouldnt have needed to go up.

On the assumption that half the population received the $900 hand out, with a 5% interest rate, the interest alone on not handing out that money is $450M for one year, now they have to find that money each year to pay that nice debt back....
11:37am 15/06/09 Permalink
CHUB
Brisbane, Queensland
5258 posts
That's Federal, this is State.

Same situation though, QLD is sinking in debt, hence the increase.

Someone should cut Blights $200k+ salary.
11:41am 15/06/09 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
4328 posts
we are entering a hyperinflation cycle. in fact i'd say we are already in it especially considering the cost of rents and housing.

in other words get used to it.
11:42am 15/06/09 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
1104 posts
Ive got a friend who is on Disability Pension.
He rents a car once a fortnight to do all his grocery shopping/visting friends/other stuff. About $60 including Fuel. 6cylinder.

Whats it cost you guys per week to run your car including rego/insurance/fuel ?
Its really got out of control the costs involved in running a car not to mention the horror of a part breaking down and needing replacement.
12:16pm 15/06/09 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
4330 posts
Thats a good point face. In europe I hear urban car sharing schemes are growing especially with fuel efficient and electric cars(jizz!).

It will probably start to take off here as we get raped further.
12:31pm 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5045 posts
Whats it cost you guys per week to run your car including rego/insurance/fuel ?

Rego/Insurance/Tyres/Mechanical/Fuel/Depreciation comes to about $77 for me, averaged out over years. Thats averaging 350ks a week or so.
$13/$7/$4/$13/$22/$18 per week respectively if you're interested. I can almost guarantee no-one here has a car this cheap for that many kays per week.


we are entering a hyperinflation cycle
Can you explain pls?

last edited by MrHardware at 12:40:30 15/Jun/09
12:35pm 15/06/09 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
4332 posts
Hyperinflation is a theory where because of the GFC and the U.S printing s***loads of paper dollars that are devalueing the worth of the U.S dollar thus a period of higher inflation ensues.
12:48pm 15/06/09 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
4406 posts
weekly feul : ~$15 | weekly rego : ~$4 | weekly tyre wear cost : ~$9.60 | weekly mechanical : ~$7
dunno how i'd calculate depreciation .. so total is about $35.60 per week. it would actually be a bit more than that coz i'd prolly have to do brake pads once a year. i didn't factor insurance either. but it could be 10x that & i'd still want to own my bike!

that $60 for the rental wouldn't include insurance or deposit either i bet.
12:49pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2420 posts
Rego/Insurance/Tyres/Mechanical/Fuel/Depreciation comes to about $77 for me, averaged out over years. Thats averaging 350ks a week or so.
$13/$7/$4/$13/$22/$18 per week respectively if you're interested. I can almost guarantee no-one here has a car this cheap for that many kays per week.


$9.6/$16/$15/$1/$18/$unknown-but-lots-because-its-new

your lpg thing isnt as cheap as you think, i'd say my diesel is probably better on fuel
01:37pm 15/06/09 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
5189 posts
Surely your service is more than $1 week or you do it yourself?

11/12/3/4/20/76

last edited by mission at 13:43:01 15/Jun/09
01:39pm 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5046 posts
your lpg thing isnt as cheap as you think, i'd say my diesel is probably better on fuel

i don't think so.
14L/100klms @ 44cpl
01:52pm 15/06/09 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
1106 posts
Deposit is around $200 but you get it back if the car is returned ok.
Usually he hires ex-taxis. run on gas.

I dont own a car but if i really need to use a car i can usually pay a friend to take me somewhere. Its really got out of control all the charges that government sucks from car use. Considering the traffic jams its prolly fair to say driving around Brisbane has deteriorated over the last 10 years while charges/tolls/fuel has gone way up.
Cant wait to see what happens when they sell the Tollways.

If you shared a flat with someone or a house share thing you could prolly get away with one car used between all members. So many cars you see out and about are single passenger cars. One car could carry 4 ppl comfortably and thats 3 less cars on the road.
01:52pm 15/06/09 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
5190 posts
You can't put a dollar figure on Diesel torque though.
01:53pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9795 posts
except hilux's only put out about 340nm :(
02:02pm 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5047 posts
Usually he hires ex-taxis. run on gas.
Where from?
except hilux's only put out about 340nm :(
Bugger.
02:05pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2421 posts
Surely your service is more than $1 week or you do it yourself?


$150 capped price servicing, 2 services per year tops = $300~/year so its less than $1
hilux is electronically limited to 340~Nm of torque, easily fixed
02:41pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9797 posts
an ecu chip will generally take them to around 400nm if you don't mind voiding your warranty, which you're going to need when those weak ifs front end components and rear diff start breaking under the strain
02:46pm 15/06/09 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
5191 posts
Am I missing something?

$1*52 = $52

Why do they limit it (the torque)?

My father in-law was talking about getting a new Landcruiser Turbo Diesel. Something like a 4.5l V8 Turbo, I was shocked (gasp!) to read in the brochure that the engine only produced ~420nm.

The 4cyl 2.0 TDi Mazda 6 pushes out 400nm :/

What's Toyota doing?


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02:49pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9799 posts
they don't actually limit the torque specifically, which is probably what tequila was hoping to imply. the torque output is a result of their desired engine/fuel mapping based on their calculated tolerances, combined with the design/efficiency of the engine

in other words they don't say:
'ok this can reliably produce x torque but we are going to limit it to 340nm'

it's more like:
'this is the power/torque/fuel consumption combination that best suits our performance/longevity/warranty/marketing requirements'

03:01pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9800 posts
re: that V8 turbo diesel you're talking about - maybe it's a naturally aspirated model, I dunno. their twin turbo V8 diesel produces about 650nm from ~1500rpm which is more reasonable
03:02pm 15/06/09 Permalink
demon
Brisbane, Queensland
4408 posts
quoted torque & power are often pretty different to real final drive wheel torque & power. most manufacturers measure torque & power on a blue-printed bench engine & then subtract calculated transmission losses... which is pretty bs most of the time. only real way is to get the vehicle independantly dyno'd.
03:05pm 15/06/09 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
5192 posts
Nah it is a turbo, just single.

430nm @ 1,200rpm - the rpm is pretty darn low though.

I should have mentioned he was looking at the cab chassis, not the wagon, looks like they use different engines.

last edited by mission at 15:16:16 15/Jun/09
03:14pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2425 posts
oh right, weekly
$7 instead of $1

and yeah my old mans about to go get the new turbo diesel v8 landcruiser tray back thing
pretty sure he wants it to tow a 5th wheeler (massive caravan) around in his retirement years

i'll race him
03:47pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9801 posts
he should get a converted dodge ram or an f-250 instead of a land cruiser for a 5th wheeler imo
04:21pm 15/06/09 Permalink
louie
Brisbane, Queensland
58 posts
and its like only $250-$300 to register in victoria or tasmania?
yay for us !!!!


You're f**n tripping dude. It was about $550 for my small 4-cyl sedan.

Edit: $549.80 to be precise. Good guess with the $550 ;-)



oh i just heard it on the triple j news that as of the 1st of july 2009those will be the diferences roughly between states.....
04:33pm 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5052 posts
yeah but they're like twice the price jim
04:33pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9802 posts
twice the price and 10 times the awesome
what is it with you and your penny pinching ways?!
04:40pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2429 posts
why Jim?

the tt-diesel v8 is awesome on fuel
04:51pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9803 posts
he won't get the twin turbo in a cab chassis as far as I know, and towing a 5th wheeler with a wagon would be.... interesting
04:58pm 15/06/09 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5053 posts
twice the price and 10 times the awesome
that's true.
05:27pm 15/06/09 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
16067 posts
$25 a week in rego / ~$25-30 in fuel / ~3 tonnes of CO2 / no idea for anything else
05:59pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2431 posts
Jim; you can get them with just an alloy tray, which is fine


see here:

http://probation.unix.org.au/~brett/files/landcruiser.pps <-- worth a look

http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=659655
08:12pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9805 posts
alloy tray = cab chassis with tray bolted on


I don't have a pps viewer here at home - what's the 4wdmonthly link showing? I remember that thread from a while ago but it doesn't show that you can get the twin turbo V8 in a cab chassis that I can tell

this might be a better way to determine what's available:
http://www.toyota.com.au/landcruiser-70-series/specifications
09:08pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2434 posts
i know that the alloy tray is just the cab chasis with a tray bolted on .. lol

the pps shows a twin turbo v8 diesel landcruiser cab chassis (with alloy tray bolted on .....) driving through a river with a boat in toe
09:51pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9806 posts
k well I don't get why you said "Jim; you can get them with just an alloy tray, which is fine" then. it was like you didn't realise what I meant by cab chassis or something

so I hopped into my work machine and looked at the pps, still not clear on where you're getting the twin turbo info from
09:59pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
1923 posts
How many Work-hours do you spend of your cars nF? :p
You are rather cheap though...

I've never worked out how much it costs me... ~14$ a week on Fuel, dont know about the rest. I do seem to rip/shred/puncture expensive tyres pretty often though :(
10:01pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9807 posts
hehe yeh you should get a second set for playing scooter, some bias plys

I did exactly the same thing as you can prolly remember - but since getting a set for playing and a set for driving I haven't had to replace any
10:09pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2437 posts
he won't get the twin turbo in a cab chassis as far as I know, and towing a 5th wheeler with a wagon would be.... interesting


thats why i said you can get them with just an alloy tray
cause its basically the same thing

the pps shows a twin turbo in a cab chassis (with an alloy tray!@!@)
10:13pm 15/06/09 Permalink
cerb
Brisbane, Queensland
3380 posts
he should get a converted dodge ram or an f-250 instead of a land cruiser for a 5th wheeler imo

my sister & her husband have a 30ft 5th wheeler and they ended up getting basically a truck to tow it with. Not sure what model it is, but it's something crazy like a 6-litre turbo 4-cyl.
some photos:
http://photos.aaron-77.com/upload/5th_wheeler_1.jpg
http://photos.aaron-77.com/upload/5th_wheeler_2.jpg
10:14pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2438 posts
nice

could spend some time traveling in that bad boy
10:16pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9808 posts
lol teq what language you speaky :)

me: he won't get the twin turbo in a cab chassis as far as I know

you: you can get them with just an alloy tray


adding an alloy tray to your cab chassis doesn't suddenly make the twin turbo V8 diesel an available option!! :)


the pps shows a twin turbo in a cab chassis
how can you tell it's a twin turbo V8, is my question


I'll explain myself a bit better -
the cab chassis, aka 70 series, which is the only land cruiser you can currently buy new in australia that could be fitted with a hitch for towing a 5th wheeler as far as I know, doesn't come with a twin turbo V8. It's only available - as far as I can tell - with the single turbo @ only 430nm



cerb: it's a hino 300 - would you believe it has a 4 litre 400nm diesel :)
10:37pm 15/06/09 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
4990 posts
your sister and her husband must have abit of cash $$$ thats a little house on wheels! i like it
10:46pm 15/06/09 Permalink
tequila
Brisbane, Queensland
2442 posts
oh right, s*** I didnt even know they had a single turbo version
so you can only get the ttv8 in the 200 series?

thats balls
10:58pm 15/06/09 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
9810 posts
yeah I think so :( totally balls
11:12pm 15/06/09 Permalink
cerb
Brisbane, Queensland
3381 posts
could spend some time traveling in that bad boy

They're on a round-australia trip, currently somewhere around longreach last I heard from them. They haven't decided when they'll come back, or even if they'll come back - he's a plumber so if they need money he plans to look for work wherever they are.
your sister and her husband must have abit of cash $$$ thats a little house on wheels! i like it

They sold their house 2 years ago, paid off the mortgage with cash to spare, and were renting until they found the 5th wheeler (took a while to find one).
07:51am 16/06/09 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
5199 posts
That guy in the pps is an idiot, especially because the kids in the car. He's lucky that didn't end in tragedy.
08:47am 16/06/09 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
16073 posts
that truck kinda reminds me of the highwayman tv show.
08:51am 16/06/09 Permalink
Creepy
USA
1406 posts
Just paid $190 for my rego. Thanks Arnold. The state's in hundred of billions of dollars in debt, but at least we aren't reamed as motorists. :D

(the added $90 smog check was fail, though)
09:14am 16/06/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
4728 posts
That guy in the cruiser is a tard, he just got really lucky on that crossing. When living in Mt Isa we drove all around the outback during flood season and anyone with half a clue wouldn't even attempt a crossing half as deep as that (unless a semi or the army convoys go in front of you).
10:00am 16/06/09 Permalink
Dazhel
Gold Coast, Queensland
350 posts
Holy s***! That pps crossing was obscenely lucky. Idiots don't deserve that kind of luck.
11:41am 16/06/09 Permalink
dranged
USA
1539 posts
Arnold has to stop printing school textbooks and make them all online, 'cos legislature (and constituents) don't want to cut services or increase taxes. Unbelievable.
08:37am 17/06/09 Permalink
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