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remember that Irishman Movie piracy thing ?
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
7414 posts

John Linton, boss of Exetel, wrote on October 1 that a Brisbane law firm acting on behalf of Movie Rights Group had written to him requesting the account details of 150 customers who had allegedly downloaded the movie Kill The Irishman in May. The firm had also written to other ISPs, including Telstra, iiNet and Internode; in total, Linton wrote, Movie Rights Group had a target list of about 9000 Australian IP addresses.

''The most interesting thing I found in their approach,'' Linton continued, ''was their request for IP records going back 12 months or more. This would allow them to issue one subpoena … that covers 12 months-plus of illegal downloading and thus allow them to take action against tens or hundreds of thousands of end users at a time on an ongoing basis.''


Richard Clapham - part owner of Movie Rights Group.

If Linton's hunch is correct, that could spell bad news for the vast number of Australians who have downloaded or uploaded movies such as Kill The Irishman via torrent-streaming sites in the past year. But is that really what Movie Rights Group has in mind?

The Age has traced the lineage of Movie Rights Group and Lightning Entertainment, and the connections of the Clapham brothers to a vast international web of pornographic websites, and concluded that there is a strong chance this action is in fact a stalking horse for a wider campaign against copyright breaches on behalf of the porn industry.



http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/playing-dirty-in-a-web-of-intrigue-20111018-1lu98.html

Very long article, It appears "To Kill An Irishman" may not be the only target here so whats really going on ?
Some kind of test case or fishing expedition ?


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Reverend Evil™
Wynnum, Queensland
19299 posts
Glad I forgot to download it. Might have saved me some trouble.
12:30am 24/10/11 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5046 posts
Lol, trying to stop people from downloading porn. Good one.
08:37am 24/10/11 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7359 posts
The movie was only released in March this year so not sure why they would need 12-months worth of logs. But more interestingly is the jump to the porn campaign because with a plethora of *tube.com sites, who the hell downloads porn from torrents?
09:04am 24/10/11 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
11861 posts
who the hell downloads porn at all
streaming is where it's at
09:39am 24/10/11 Permalink
Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11481 posts

Oh geeze, those 2 guys on the gold coast. My brother worked with them until about a year ago.
10:03am 24/10/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8403 posts
I was going to say, this story reminds me of the Gold Coast porn barons, but then I realised this is exactly the same story.

Matthew and Richard Clapham

http://images.smh.com.au/2011/10/18/2697944/PO-3clapham1_20111018000220918545-200x0.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/2011/10/18/2697945/PO-3clapham2_20111018000301475112-200x0.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/playing-dirty-in-a-web-of-intrigue-20111018-1lu98.html


It seems like their plan might be to threaten to sue people who downloaded porn torrents to which they hold the copyright. But they are offering people to settle for a few thousand if people for some reason don't want to go to court over downloading porn.


Oh I forgot to quote the article:


''Our speciality is young girls drunk or drugged before they are brutally abused!!''
The site took care to note that ''all models depicted are at least 18 years old'', but then issued what reads a lot like an incitement to rape. ''Some guys help a girl home when she has had to [sic] much to drink. We say, call your friends, bring out the camera and then take turns to f### that drunk slut to a pulp!!''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/playing-dirty-in-a-web-of-intrigue-20111018-1lu98.html#ixzz1beLTyrpE


That's what you'd be going to court over, I guess.

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copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
1205 posts
those dudes are giving the soul patch a bad name

also, both look kinda creepy
10:27am 24/10/11 Permalink
Snakeman
Queensland
764 posts
The firm had also written to other ISPs, including Telstra, iiNet and Internode; in total,


LOL, I see Optus wasn't on the list. WHY THE F*** NOT ???
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Tiny
Brisbane, Queensland
2936 posts
Was TPG hit?

Faceman I posted this news in the other thread last week. You must have missed it.
12:22pm 24/10/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8511 posts
04:59pm 24/11/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9836 posts
lol, suck s*** d*******s.
08:26pm 24/11/11 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
3806 posts
Who the s*** uses torrents any more anyway. Not used one of those things in over 3 years. Also for a pair of people who apparently specialize in fantasy rape porn they sure are pretty high up on their horse.
08:31pm 24/11/11 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
33565 posts
Who the s*** uses torrents any more anyway


lolz, people who dont want to pay extra for their medias and who arent complete s***k***s at the internets!?
08:39pm 24/11/11 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6622 posts
lolz, people who dont want to pay extra

For a moment ignoring the fact that many of us are with Internode and get usenet access as a standard feature of our plan ... most torrent users pay extra to move up a plan (or download less on the same plan) to make up for lost quota due to non-zero uploads - since most ISPs count all traffic. Even at the lowest upload speed required to get a good download rate, it's a fair chunk of 'lost' quota.

But hey let's not let facts get in the way ...
09:23pm 24/11/11 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1148 posts
lol. Not all ISPs count uploads. When i was with TPG uploads werent counted. Then i was with AAPT and now telstra who both count uploads so unfortunately i set uploads to <5kps. Torrents from the last few hours, 9gb DL, 90mb UL. Its s***** that i cant give back but with my ISP, i cant help it.

And how many ISPs now offer f***loads of bandwidth for not much money?

And counting moving up a plan, say $10 or $20 a month, i really dont think that matters if you consider all the extra downloads you would get with that $.
10:01pm 24/11/11 Permalink
Timmeh
Brisbane, Queensland
1418 posts
oh noes we all gonna get taken to jail?
10:11pm 24/11/11 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6623 posts
lol. Not all ISPs count uploads.

Who said all do? Looks like someone didn't read my post properly.
And how many ISPs now offer f***loads of bandwidth for not much money?

Bandwidth or quota? Hint: they are not the same thing.
And counting moving up a plan, say $10 or $20 a month,

The argument by Spook was that "haha usenet suckers have to pay more". Now you're saying $10-20 extra isn't much when we're talking torrents .. which adds hilarity.

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DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1149 posts
I read your post and I never said somebody said all ISPs count uploads. Looks like you need to reread my post. Its a s***** excuse to go on about uploads when you can simply limit it.

I meant quota, my bad. Im sure you knew what i meant.

Spook said nothing about usenet users paying more. Reread the post.
10:41pm 24/11/11 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6624 posts
Reread the post.

no u.
10:55pm 24/11/11 Permalink
DeadlyDav0
Brisbane, Queensland
1150 posts
no u.

lol. mad cause u wrong. its k.
lolz, people who dont want to pay extra for their medias and who arent complete s***k***s at the internets!?
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