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Mini - ITX gaming rig
Mitcho
Wollongong, New South Wales
40 posts
Hi Guys

A few months back I posted up a mini ITX gaming rig to find out what you guys thought, Now has come the time to build it but since then a lot of things have changed. My main problem is this, I want a Mini ITX motherboard with built in Wifi and Intel socket 1155

Case: Silverstone SG08B
Ram: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) 1333mhz or 1600mhz depending on motherboard (i know people will ask why 16gig lets just say...i want it for the future? )
Motherboard: ??
CPU: i7-2600K
GPU: Gigabyte GF GTX 570

As for motherboards the only ones that iv seen that are remotely close to what i want is the Zotac Z68-ITX-A-E but i know Asus makes a very good AMD mini itx mobo but i cant seem to find the intel version.

Any help would be great on finding a motherboard
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tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3444 posts
My preference for mini-itx boards (and I've got about three or four of them) are the Zotac boards. As you suggested, the Z68ITX-A-E may meet your criteria. Just be careful when looking at models, at the very least, look at the specs closely. For example the Zotac Z68ITX-A-E has a x16 PCI-e slot, the Z68ITX-B-E has a x4 PCI-e slot.

Edit: should mention auspcmarket stock the Z68ITX-A-E for $228.

last edited by tspec at 14:49:47 27/Mar/12
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Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12966 posts
Mitcho, 16GB of RAM is really not required for that task. I know you say you want it for the future, but it's hard to see at the moment when 16GB will be required.

I'm interested in this topic as well, to upgrade my media PC to a level that will play Skyrim.
02:52pm 27/03/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9312 posts
I have a mini-itx HTPC and a mini-pcie wifi card in it, and the wifi sucks balls. Had to switch to a USB wifi antenna.
At least that zotac one has two huge antennas coming out the back, seems good.

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Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12967 posts
What tuner are you using, thermite?

I was looking at one of the ethernet tuners as an option. E.g., http://www.hdhomerun.com.au/page6.htm

Either that or a USB tuner. Ideally I'd go for http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15342 but obviously that's not USB.
03:06pm 27/03/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9313 posts
I don't have a tuner at all, because the place I'm renting does not possess an antenna for watching television. Classy huh. $340 a week. You should see the "oven".

last edited by thermite at 15:11:55 27/Mar/12
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tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3445 posts
wifi antenna doesn't necessarily mean tv tuner :) I've typically had good experiences with Leadtek gear.
03:13pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12969 posts
I have had s*** experiences with Hauppauge, but all the reviews I have read of their new stuff have been excellent, so I'll just bite the bullet if I have to.
wifi antenna doesn't necessarily mean tv tuner :)

Unless I'm missing something I don't think anyone in here is making that mistake.
03:15pm 27/03/12 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
9314 posts
I rigged up some old bunny ears I ripped off an old tv so I could watch the election the other night. Had to wedge the bunny ears between two chairs to get it in a spot where you could slightly see the picture through the snow. No reception for digital channels at all. The bunny ears kept falling over and hitting the window anyway.
03:16pm 27/03/12 Permalink
parabol
Brisbane, Queensland
6855 posts
CPU: i7-2600K

The 2600K is only about 2-5% faster at stock and overclocks only marginally faster than a 2500K on average. Both should be able to hit 4.2GHz easily and 4.5GHz with slight effort.

So I suggest you drop the CPU down to the 2500K and save yourself $105.
03:45pm 27/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
805 posts
Mitcho, 16GB of RAM is really not required for that task...


Pinky I'd suggest you check the price of RAM... 16Gb IS overkill.... but it's so damn cheap at the moment... why not?
05:25pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
12175 posts
Holy s*** Pinky, that ethernet tuner looks awesome.
05:29pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12974 posts
Yeah, it's a good idea, but I'd be pretty skeptical about performance. I'd like to see some hard-hitting reviews on the product.
06:17pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Mitcho
Wollongong, New South Wales
41 posts
After what some of you guys said, I think i will take it down to a 2500k to save me some cash.

Also IVY_Mike, you are correct, ram is dirt cheap at the moment and getting 2 8gig sticks is only like $30-40 more then just 8gig at the moment from my wholesaler
06:24pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Mitcho
Wollongong, New South Wales
42 posts
Case: Silverstone SG08B $220 (with a 600w silverstone psu)
Ram: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) 1600mhz $141
Motherboard: Z68ITX-A-E $195
CPU: i7-2500k $225
GPU: Gigabyte GF GTX 570 $361


I've already got the GPU so

Total without the GPU : $781 + postage (about $20-$30)
With GPU: $1142

What do you guys think? this is flat wholesaler price so RRP on this would be a bit higher
06:38pm 27/03/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12976 posts
I think it's awesome
06:42pm 27/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
809 posts
My usual haunt (and I dare say a lot of others on here who order interstate gear) is PCCasegear, and your prices are a shave better than theirs.

SG08B $229 ($9 more exxy)
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) 1600mhz $145 ($4 more exxy)
Z68ITX-A-E (PCCG don't stock the Zotac stuff)
EDIT: i5*-2500k $215 ($10 cheaper)
Gigabyte GF GTX 570 (Some similarly priced Gigabyte 570's there, nothing dramatic as far as price difference)


Where are you sourcing the parts from?

If I had a need to upgrade my gaming rig, once I'd confirmed the noise of the SG08, this is where I'd be buying. (I borrowed a mate's SG07 for a little while... that combined with some of the LGA-1155 mITX mobo's is an amazingly powerful little unit, but the SG07 was quite loud compared to the Silverstone RV01 Raven I'm using atm.)


EDIT: The one thing you've not mentioned (to go INSIDE that case) is your choice of SSD/HDD... I'm running an older OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb, and I can't recommend it enough. Using that as the OS disk and my previous OS disk (a 300Gb Raptor) s*** just LOADS on my primary rig... no more waiting for progress bars!
07:02pm 27/03/12 Permalink
tspec
Melbourne, Victoria
3446 posts
If I was building a gaming box right now I would go for most of what you got. I'm trying to ebay off about 16 hard drives though to fund my upgrade so I'm probably still a few months off but I'm shooting for an IvyBridge build anyway so that should work out ok timing wise.
07:14pm 27/03/12 Permalink
samuelk
15 posts
My usual haunt (and I dare say a lot of others on here who order interstate gear) is PCCasegear, and your prices are a shave better than theirs.

SG08B $229 ($9 more exxy)
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) 1600mhz $145 ($4 more exxy)
Z68ITX-A-E (PCCG don't stock the Zotac stuff)
i7-2500k $215 ($10 cheaper)
Gigabyte GF GTX 570 (Some similarly priced Gigabyte 570's there, nothing dramatic as far as price difference)


Where are you sourcing the parts from?

If I had a need to upgrade my gaming rig, once I'd confirmed the noise of the SG08, this is where I'd be buying. (I borrowed a mate's SG07 for a little while... that combined with some of the LGA-1155 mITX mobo's is an amazingly powerful little unit, but the SG07 was quite loud compared to the Silverstone RV01 Raven I'm using atm.)


EDIT: The one thing you've not mentioned (to go INSIDE that case) is your choice of SSD/HDD... I'm running an older OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb, and I can't recommend it enough. Using that as the OS disk and my previous OS disk (a 300Gb Raptor) s*** just LOADS on my primary rig... no more waiting for progress bars!


I believe you mean i5 - 2500K? Perhaps not, either way I think that the saved $100 should go into a more powerful graphics card? would that work with the mini-ITX rig? I'm am not familiar with that 'name'.

I use scorptec.com.au. theyre based predominately around Melbourne but ship interstate all across Aus. Also, so far they have been really helpful and attentive regarding questions and are willing to chat about parts. I am also happy with their order status updates.

Samuelk
08:24pm 27/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
813 posts
I believe you mean i5 - 2500K?...


My bad, I copy/pasta'd from the OP.

In what way would a 'more powerful graphics card' not work?

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Silverstone SG07-08 cases, but they'll take some of the largest video cards on the market*


*n.b. not that stupid 3 expansion slow wide f***** nVidia disaster in another thread atm... but 11.5" - 12.2" cards, no problem
09:03pm 27/03/12 Permalink
samuelk
19 posts
My bad, I copy/pasta'd from the OP.

In what way would a 'more powerful graphics card' not work?

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Silverstone SG07-08 cases, but they'll take some of the largest video cards on the market*


*n.b. not that stupid 3 expansion slow wide f***** nVidia disaster in another thread atm... but 11.5" - 12.2" cards, no problem


Ahk, yeah I have no idea, was probably one of the stupider questions I'll ask on this forum haha! Just thought the 'smaller then most mobo's' statement might have something to do with it..

Yeah thought you might have :D, no not familiar with that case actually
10:16pm 27/03/12 Permalink
IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
815 posts
... no not familiar with that case actually


if you want small form factor without taking performance shortcuts, become familiar with them... they're awesome!
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