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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
1308 posts
Cnet have posted Steve Jobs' keynote speech from the Mac thing that is happening, which features John Carmack demonstrating their new engine, running on a Mac with a GeForce 3. The quality is not astounding, but I had my Oh Face on. Oh. Go and watch it! Thanks rerun for the link.
07:29pm 22/02/01 Permalink
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Term
Queensland
874 posts
Farrrk!, that owns so hard, did you see the character detail in the doom3 characters?? I guess gone are the days where we call them 'models' when this baby comes out...

Ahahah its so going to own

07:35pm 22/02/01 Permalink
WarT
Brisbane, Queensland
1237 posts
OMFG thats looks sweet but i still wouldn't get a mac
07:44pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Koopz
Brisbane, Queensland
262 posts
quick! somebody pass me a towel!
08:04pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
87 posts
swwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttt
08:06pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Scythe1o1
Brisbane, Queensland
76 posts
Local mirror?
08:10pm 22/02/01 Permalink
sprayNwipe
Brisbane, Queensland
81 posts
aiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
08:28pm 22/02/01 Permalink
hilikus
Brisbane, Queensland
25 posts
crikey
08:47pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
88 posts
Local mirror is in the pipeline....

Coming soon to www.rukh.net
08:47pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Einstein
Brisbane, Queensland
599 posts
FAAAAAAARRRRRKKKK

That is so goddamn sweet

Imagine playing a game like that in single player with all the f*****g lights off, headphones on with the volume cranked......

F*** me, it'll be the best s****care since Unreal Single Player

FARK THAT OWNS!!!!!!!!!
08:48pm 22/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1489 posts
you got scared playing unreal singleplayer
ahahahaha

wait, wait ..

ahjahahaha
ahahahahahahahahha
aahahahahahahaha, ahah, aahaha .. ahaha aha

okay .. I'm done

PS - ahahaa . ahaha
08:52pm 22/02/01 Permalink
SacredSperm
Sydney, New South Wales
27 posts
Woah

Thats...thats...woah

Wow
09:36pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Einstein
Brisbane, Queensland
603 posts
Did i say scare?

No sorry i meant amusement for acid =P

Seriously, the opening levels of unreal chasing that alien was pretty cool

After that it was just mindless boring killing
09:38pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
89 posts
http://www.rukh.net for all your Doom 3 zipped .asf needs :)
09:44pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Einstein
Brisbane, Queensland
606 posts
Rukh's Haus

make it clicky next time for the lazy ppls =)
09:46pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
47 posts
Im buying one of these f*****s the second it hits the beach!
10:11pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Creepy
21 posts
Bugger the footage - no one picked up Trog's awesome usage of an "Office Space" quote!!
10:14pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Hunter
Brisbane, Queensland
356 posts
Hehe. Psycho? You got kids? Cause I reckon you'll have to sell one just to pay for it :).
10:14pm 22/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1490 posts
Creepy, everyone who's ever been to a QGL has seen trog's "Oh Face" its nuthin new :P
10:17pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Sentinel X
Sydney, New South Wales
3 posts
Boy 'o boy, cant believe that was all real time rendering - pretty awesome!!
Heh, John Carmack speaks funny..mm..mm
10:28pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Sentinel X
Sydney, New South Wales
4 posts
:p
10:29pm 22/02/01 Permalink
WarT
Brisbane, Queensland
1246 posts
yeah carmack does a good impression of talking under water
10:31pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Creepy
22 posts
K, just finished looking at the movie (courtesy of Rukh's site)

That's a damn cute looking engine...but I couldn't help feeling that the game is probably a very long long way off from release...since they'll need to wait for Hardware to catch up for one thing...

I actually found the demo of Luxo Jr. to be more jaw dropping...GF3 looks mighty sweet.
11:19pm 22/02/01 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
1298 posts
the only thing that didnt mercilessly rock ass about that movie was john carmacks voice...
12:14am 23/02/01 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
238 posts
The luxo jr thing wasn't bad, but the shadows and the lighting in the id demo impressed me more. Especially the shadows near the end of the demo with the moving light sources, light shining through slats/fans/etc onto creatures. That was just awesome.
12:15am 23/02/01 Permalink
blahnana
3 posts
Call me a skeptic... but I'll believe it when I see it on my desktop. Looks too pie in the sky for me...

And Carmack sounds like a total geek... not that there's anything wrong with that :)

12:37pm 23/02/01 Permalink
sprayNwipe
Brisbane, Queensland
82 posts
blah - you're a skeptic ;p

The raw power of the GF3 should easially be able to handle the poly count, the free antialiasing helps, and the programmable nfiniteFX Pixel Shader(tm) should handle all of the neat per-pixel shadow stuff.

The real question is - what's it going to look like on cards other than the GF3? And how are MS going to handle programmable GPUs through DX?

I like this quote from Broussard:

In 1991 my partner Scott and I went to Shreveport to meet with id Software about the new Commander Keen engine they had written.

At a small Chinese restaurant, over dinner, a simple question was asked of John Carmack. We wondered how he was able to do such amazing things with his engines (back then - a smooth scrolling platform game engine was a big deal).

He looked up from his dinner and with all due modesty just said: "Well, I like to think I'm pretty good at what I do."

We all nodded and accepted the statement matter of factly and went back to talking about games and eating our dinners.

That statement has always stuck with me, and I've told the story many times to internal developers. I feel it's appropriate to re-tell now.

Ten years, and many engines later, it's no different.

Last night John sent a shockwave through the world of gaming that will be felt for years. We got a peek at Doom 3 - or at least it's engine.

Yup, he's pretty damned good as what he does all right :)

/applause
01:09pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
240 posts
Thats not just a quote, thats his entire plan, which is already linked to in another news post by trog.

Not to take anything away from your post or nothing :)
03:37pm 23/02/01 Permalink
blahnana
4 posts
I think that this quote by Brak from Space Ghost is even more relevant...

"I like Pork!"

And remember kids: "John Carmack" rearranged spells "rope the goat".

I think there's something in that for all of us.
04:28pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Mutty
Gold Coast, Queensland
79 posts
While most of us drool, i bet most of us will have to play the game with every setting 'off' just tog et a decent frame rate...same as Q3A.

If you watch Q3A being played in high-res in 32 bit with everything 'on', its looks unbelievable, but alas, you goto a LAN (ala QGL) and check out what people are running. Vertex, blurry pic_maps and simple items. Some prefer it because they can see things more clearly, others for the big frame boost to keep the game smooth.

So unless we all go and buy GF3's for however many thousands of dollars it will be, will Doom3 end up being 'Doom3 looking like GL Doom2'?
04:42pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Mutty
Gold Coast, Queensland
81 posts
While most of us drool, i bet most of us will have to play the game with every setting 'off' just tog et a decent frame rate...same as Q3A.

If you watch Q3A being played in high-res in 32 bit with everything 'on', its looks unbelievable, but alas, you goto a LAN (ala QGL) and check out what people are running. Vertex, blurry pic_maps and simple items. Some prefer it because they can see things more clearly, others for the big frame boost to keep the game smooth.

So unless we all go and buy GF3's for however many thousands of dollars it will be, will Doom3 end up being 'Doom3 looking like GL Doom2'?
04:51pm 23/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1085 posts
GF3 -> US$600

thats about $1.1k here (probably more)

plus its going to be for macs first

and steve jobs is gay

06:41pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Einstein
Brisbane, Queensland
627 posts
If steve jobs were truly gay in every sense of YOUR word.... you wouldn't even have a GF3 so quit yer b****ing
06:54pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Hunter
Brisbane, Queensland
369 posts
Muwhaha suckers!! You see, you are hooked, you pay big dorrah!
08:38pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
567 posts
The Geforce3 is due out in the next month or two. The 'New Doom', on the other hand, isn't likely to see the light of day until at least 2002, I would assume. By then, the Geforce3 will be extremely cheap - going on Nvidia's usual performance, the 'GF3 Ultra' will be released towards the end of this year, and who knows what after that.

In other words, GF3 will be affordable for the average user by the release of the new Doom (hell, it could quite possibly be the low-end card on the market).

As to the 'turning everything off', the new doom is supposed to be predominantly single-player. The reason people turn everything off in Q3 is cos we want the maximum frames possible. That isn't as important in single-player, where you can more fully appreciate the eye candy :)
08:45pm 23/02/01 Permalink
BOB the Fruit
Brisbane, Queensland
892 posts
The thing I want to know is this:
How f*****g much?
08:48pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Hunter
Brisbane, Queensland
370 posts
More than your mum makes in a month :P
11:50pm 23/02/01 Permalink
Mutty
Gold Coast, Queensland
82 posts
True Nats, but sif an id game aint gonna own in multiplayer :P
01:33am 24/02/01 Permalink
Einstein
Brisbane, Queensland
639 posts
Now now hunter....

you know how the little boys get cut when you make references to their parents paying for stuff

like $2k a year insurance for silvias

*ducks*
04:23am 24/02/01 Permalink
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Brisbane, Queensland
23 posts
"If steve jobs were truly gay in every sense of YOUR word.... you wouldn't even have a GF3 so quit yer b****ing"

another stupid comment wher do u find them all ;)
01:19pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1109 posts
if it wasn't for steve jobs we'd have the gf3 on pc before mac
02:48pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1517 posts
Yep, I'll definitely have the thing cranked for singleplayer.
I dont mind if it drops under 30 when im playing sp.

but its inevitable that pro-f****s are gonna be running it like poo so they can see people easier in deathmatchs.

/me gives neff a steve job
07:30pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1114 posts
i reckon it'd be awesome if id just forgot about the deathmatch and made it an uber coop game
07:36pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1520 posts
yeh, cept not only 3 player co-op like dykertahorea.
07:37pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1117 posts
sif you'd want to get past the laser things anyway
07:43pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1522 posts
They can't say that we didnt give it a chance, I mean really .. we tried :/
07:45pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1118 posts
yeah and from what guv said it actually got better after the frog/mosquito levels
07:47pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1525 posts
well, it kinda did stop making me nautious .. oh ffs would you get on ICQ
07:48pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1120 posts
oh hold on i'll have to restart to win2k

stupid rally masters keeps blue screening so i have to run 98
07:52pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1526 posts
sifnt kiwibox, i've got like 1035 kiwipoints ..|,
07:55pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1122 posts
you're such a kiwislut acid
07:59pm 24/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1529 posts
wait, i beter link it just in case anyone is actually reading this drivvle.

Kiwibox is some gumby site, but it has a java instant messenging client that keeps your contact list and you can use ICQ, MSN and AOL through it.

If you actually make an account, use a referral from "AcidReign" that way I'll get more kiwipoints! :P

but its rad if you only have web access at uni or work and you want to use ICQ. It only uses port 80 and doesnt have to isntall any software so its all good.
08:04pm 24/02/01 Permalink
elbaffeni
Brisbane, Queensland
1124 posts
yeah and you can read up on all the latest kiwi gossop as well
08:08pm 24/02/01 Permalink
Selknirps
Brisbane, Queensland
561 posts
I disagree creepy you only thought it was better cause your a dumbass
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