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Napster Paying for Music Sharing
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
1289 posts
CNet are reporting that Napster has reputedly offered $1 billion over 5 years to major record labels in return for the right to swap their music over the Internet.
The annual payment of $200 million would come out of projected subscription fees and other potential sources of revenue. The company gave a few new details on just what those fees would look like. A service allowing limited numbers of downloads per month would likely cost between $2.95 and $4.95 per month, while an unlimited download service would likely cost $5.95 to $9.95, Barry said.
Sound fair?
02:28pm 21/02/01 Permalink
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AnaRoT
Queensland
2868 posts
Ok that sounds pretty damn good to me. I don't really see how the record industry could argue with that, when you include some other good arguements that Napster has. The only problem would be how do you deal that money to the artists? I guess Napster would keep statistics about which mp3's are downloaded most - I think they can do that already can't they?
02:46pm 21/02/01 Permalink
Pumped Full Of Pot
Brisbane, Queensland
149 posts
i hate napster now tis ghey
03:28pm 21/02/01 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
2870 posts
Why?
04:08pm 21/02/01 Permalink
Garf
Sydney, New South Wales
6 posts
The RIAA has however refused this offer!!

I raed that on the SGL page...

do they have any brains at all? There are pleanty of neapster clones anyway, which carn't be shut down...so they should take it...but no...they are too smart...
05:40pm 21/02/01 Permalink
trog
Brisbane, Queensland
1298 posts
heh, I can imagine all these record execs sitting around singing, "I am so smart.. I am so smart.. S-M-R-T.. I mean, S-M-A-R-T
05:42pm 21/02/01 Permalink
blahnana
2 posts
I don't think napster's going to get that much money from subscriptions. I for one won't be paying for a service that basically uses other people's computers/internet links. Think about it... why should I pay Napster for the privelege of downloading off someone's hard drive, when that person doesn't see a penny of it? It makes very little sense. Napster survived and flourished as a freeware backyard thing... but I don't see it's model surviving in a commercial environment, even if it got the chance.

The other problem is that this payoff is just trying to get some Record labels off their back. When I download a piece of music that I've "paid for"... I still don't really own copyright for it... who knows if Napster has paid off the particular record label.

It's just a nonsensical approach to the whole thing. Napster's chance was proving that they're not at fault for people sharing pieces of music that aren't public domain... when that failed, they were destined to lose. My take is that that's completely fair. They're providing a service that isn't necessarily used to break the law. Because it is 99 times out of 100 is neither here nor there... it's the users breaking the law, not napster. Following the line that the record companies take, microsoft could sue just about any ISP for software piracy. Of course, the driving force behind this whole thing is a bunch of fatcats who wrote the system to protect their continuing fatness so... *shrug*... I'm not surprised to see napster explode... just sad.

If everyone with an innovation worried so much about what they were creating in the wrong hands... there wouldn't be anywhere near as much invention as there is these days. Of course, this argument is much bigger than this forum and I've gone way off the tracks with this spiel... so I'll end with.. "blow the goat"... and signoff.
05:42pm 21/02/01 Permalink
cdRegn
Brisbane, Queensland
1479 posts
if those are US prices, $20 for unlim, f*** that .. I just go back to getting mp3s from ftp and IRC
05:44pm 21/02/01 Permalink
Taipan
Brisbane, Queensland
799 posts
Well I like free stuff as much as the next guy but paying for Mp3's is fair enough as long as the cost is reasonable.

I heard about napsters thought's on this matter on the news to day and in reality it's probably ok,but I also heard in the same report that the record industry wants to limit the quality of the mp3's.To what level of quailty I don't realy know but if it's less than CD quality it'll be the biggest flop in internet history.
I certainly won't be paying for substandard trax and I don't think anyone else will either.

However if the quality is as good as CD's but no better whats the point of capping them as you can reproduce all those trax at the same quality anyhow.So god knows what the record companies will concider a resonable level of quality.

Just anyother thing if you pay for a limited ammount of D/L's a month what happens if you get transfer errors do they count as a D/L and come off your monthly total.Or if you do get a realy s*** copy of a song thats not worth having why should you pay for it as you'll probably delete it anyway.

Put simply it all sounds like s*** to me.

My 2c worth
05:45pm 21/02/01 Permalink
eZekeil
Queensland
1 posts
pfft sif get mp3z from napster...
06:28pm 21/02/01 Permalink
dem0n
Brisbane, Queensland
176 posts
irc & ftps & patience 0wn napster for getting new stuff ... napster 0wned for old rare stuff but I got it ALL now so I don't care :o)
Its a pity though ... cause most of the really big public ftps are drying up now ... there are just too many selfish leechers that won't give anything back. I was talking with a guy who ran the herbal distro ftp on efnet the other night & he said that in 2 months he had 3terrabytes of transfer through his ftp. Needless to say ... herbal ftp is no more :o(
06:36pm 21/02/01 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
1276 posts
i heard from someone (before all this pay for it crap) that you could still use napster after it was shutdown but using it in conjunction with napigator to bypass that napster servers that would be shut down.

So if this works, its a good thing that the RIAA dropped the offer. If you know what i mean.

s1f fr33d0m 0f inph0 d0sn7 0wnz0r j00
06:55pm 21/02/01 Permalink
death crush
Brisbane, Queensland
5 posts
sif mp3s are cd quality.

And forget fatcat record executives for a second, what about the artists? Contrary to popular belief, all musicians aren't millionaires with a mansion in L.A.
07:55am 22/02/01 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
1280 posts
the ones that arent arent popular enough to download :)
09:20am 22/02/01 Permalink
death crush
Brisbane, Queensland
7 posts
Actually no. Don't take your obvious faves, Ricky Martin and the Backstreet Boys as the typical example. The Mark of Cain for instance still work full time dayjobs.
09:23am 22/02/01 Permalink
Reaper
Other International
12 posts
who?..
11:09am 22/02/01 Permalink
Hunter
Brisbane, Queensland
351 posts
I find this whole thing highly amusing, I mean everyone gets s***** when their free lunch is taken away? Right? I'd be even more amused if they forced the CS players to pay for CS :). Bahahaha then watch its player numbers drop thru the floor.

The whole pirating of music and data is just fun to watch, those who are doing it hide under the "oh it costs too much and the big corporations make too much money" line, when in actual fact its because they dont really want to pay for it regardless of the price. /end rant
11:14am 22/02/01 Permalink
death crush
Brisbane, Queensland
8 posts
The thing you people b****ing about the downfall of Napster are missing is that the end result of not paying for work done is communism. So why don't you move to China b******?
"I don't care if you had to pay $100 per hour in studio fees to record your album then tens of thousands more in mixing, mastering, design and layout, promotion, etc. just make it and give it to me for free!!"
03:17pm 22/02/01 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
1285 posts
03:21pm 22/02/01 Permalink
Freewheelin
Brisbane, Queensland
166 posts
small not so well bands sometimes like to use napster as a means to spread thier music around to get a following. some bands that are contracted by time-warner and other large companies lose nothing by the pirating of thier music..they are paid regardless.

i know a girl whos band is signed up with time-warner. this large company keeps giving the band heaps of money, yet they haven't recorded or released an album. this is majorly pissing the band off because thier passion which is thier music - not the money, isnt being heard. so there it is. support your local/smalltime bands by buying thier stuff. its only hurting the big companies when you download the more popular music, not the artists..they have already been paid in part.

i know not all of this makes sense and i dont care =)
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