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Elon Musk at IAC 2017 - Making Life Multiplanetary
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
12221 posts
Elon's talk at the International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide just wrapped up. He described private rocket company SpaceX's very ambitious plans to have cargo land on Mars in 2022, and people in 2024.



Not only that, the later part of the presentation showed how SpaceX intend to use their new "BFR" rockets in new and exciting ways on Earth as well.
03:41pm 29/09/17 Permalink
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Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
1006 posts
This seriously gave me goosebumps. This guy is amazing. I can't wait to see what 10 years from now looks like.
07:28pm 29/09/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18453 posts
Elon Musk has to easily be the most influential person so far of this century for the advancement of the human race.

I would totally love to be in that first 200 people to go, except there are easily 200 people who are far, far more capable than I. Oh well. I look forward to my retirement holiday to Mars.

Better start saving now.
10:36am 30/09/17 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
12223 posts
Here's a good vid by Aussie ColdFusion:

03:23pm 04/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
815 posts
Can't believe this guy went from making paypal to making rocks, electric cars, boring machine, hyperloop.
10:29am 05/10/17 Permalink
jmr
Brisbane, Queensland
8306 posts
Yeah I saw him a few hours later at the Hornsdale wind farm event which was a bit less impressive. Doing some cool s*** though
04:53pm 05/10/17 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
4619 posts
this guy has jumped the shark lately

Hyperloop is a pipe dream (lulz) and have you heard his latest brain fart about using rockets to transport people around the world? you have got to be kidding
12:33am 06/10/17 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
12224 posts
http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

“We are committed to bringing this innovative mode of transportation to Missouri,” said Patrick McKenna, commissioner of the state’s transportation department, in a statement.
A hyperloop route between St. Louis and Kansas City is under serious consideration
05:19pm 06/10/17 Permalink
PornoPete
Melbourne, Victoria
2800 posts
Hyperloop is a pipe dream (lulz)


Nice.
06:30pm 06/10/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4323 posts
** skipping your wanker speak ** his latest brain fart about using rockets to transport people around the world? you have got to be kidding


as out there as it may seem, it's still far more interesting than watching anything on almost everywhere
09:49pm 06/10/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7729 posts
03:54pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
4620 posts
next time just leave out the parts you don't want to quote

I admit it's an interesting idea but in terms of commerciality it's a mental idea that will never take off
05:13pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Vash
5553 posts
I admit it's an interesting idea but in terms of commerciality it's a mental idea that will never take off


People will pay alot to get across the world in 30 minutes.
08:11pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23917 posts
I imagine it working something like this

https://i.redd.it/9j5n3ivwwljy.jpg
08:39pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
4622 posts
https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E11/609157.jpg?b64lines=U09SUlku
People will pay alot to get across the world in 30 minutes.

if they make it a niche market for the super rich, then there's still the awkward engineering challenges (reducing the catastrophic failure rate of rockets, and making the G forces compatible with human comfort come to mind)
09:23pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Vash
5554 posts
if they make it a niche market for the super rich, then there's still the awkward engineering challenges (reducing the catastrophic failure rate of rockets, and making the G forces compatible with human comfort come to mind)


http://www.virgingalactic.com/
09:40pm 07/10/17 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
4623 posts
^ yeah that's a thing (or will be) but it's not particularly fast is it?
10:03pm 07/10/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4324 posts
there's a good quote from Burt Rutan that put's a few things into an observation of big or expansionist government perspective. who isn't such a corporate figurehead who's role depends on people sucking up to the corporate agenda

I put myself in the (Those who fear expansion of Government control) group, and do not hide the fact that I have a clear bias on Anthropogenic global warming (AGW). My bias is based on fear of Government expansion and the observation of AGW data presentation fraud – not based on financial or any other personal benefit. I merely have found that the closer you look at the data and alarmists’ presentations, the more fraud you find and the less you think there is an AGW problem... For decades, as a professional experimental test engineer, I have analyzed experimental data and watched others massage and present data. I became a cynic; My conclusion – “if someone is aggressively selling a technical product whose merits are dependent on complex experimental data, he is likely lying”. That is true whether the product is an airplane or a Carbon Credit.
02:40am 08/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
819 posts
The f*** does that quote and your post have to do with this thread and interplanetary travel?
03:00pm 08/10/17 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
12226 posts
On the whole it is not wise to bet against SpaceX. There have certainly been mistakes and upsets, but they have a phenomenal track record of innovation. For me it has been amazing to watch their progress over the last ten years.

Gwynne Shotwell (SpaceX President and COO):

"BFR system being designed for Earth hops. First test will be this type of launch..."


Earth will be a proving ground for this technology, before it reaches the Moon and Mars.
06:43pm 08/10/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4325 posts
The f*** does that quote and your post have to do with this thread and interplanetary travel?


oh i'm sorry is there some kind of strict rule that dictates it specifically has to?

if you're too stupid or just lazy to work out that it pertains to the few messages preceding it then idk, maybe forum software of the future with ML will notify you of a slight OT so that you don't have to think to grasp the context
10:51pm 08/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
820 posts
Sure. Just like how hitler is relevant anytime.

Get f***ed and f***off
09:27am 09/10/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4326 posts
the f***?

you're a f***wit
09:46am 09/10/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26062 posts
I also have no idea what your comment had to do with anything. Would you mind explaining because you seem to be behaving as though it's really obvious and I'm wondering what I'm missing.
10:18am 09/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
821 posts
I think it's the last line of the quote, somehow that's good commentary on the subject of commercial space flights. But where's the technical mumbo jumbo, where's the sell. I have no idea. But it's a fantastic way to hamfist in your dislike of global warming. It's even funnier when you consider "complex data" as the foundation of nearly all scientific discovery... it;s even more confusing.
10:50am 09/10/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4327 posts
I was acknowledging a comment about the confusion over whether or not virgin galactic, which seems as though it's still informing people as the mainstay marketing by virgin for scaled composites, has brought the Ansari Xprize vision of taking people on a suborbital bounce and the complications which have long since almost shuttered the pursuit of

it was a program that even John Carmack was involved in with his Armadillo Aerospace interests, but i suppose the relatively pithy financing that selling 1 million+ or so copies of Doom allowed him to plough into a lofty aerospace goal of space tourism that isn't even showing signs of being bookable by the old money of airlines and tech

the potentially viable product is still only the vision, and the setbacks of losing test pilots and reflecting on just how difficult the realities of it are are much less acknowledged than an interesting and captivating speaker like Musk is or will ever talk about

And the over use of pinch point phrases like "it's 2017 already we should have a base on the Moon" and "we need to be multi-planetary it's inevitable" are so cringe and seem to disregard the efforts and losses of the space goals since what, sometime around the 1950's
11:46am 09/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
822 posts
Right. Makes complete sense my apologies.
01:18pm 09/10/17 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Other International
39239 posts
next time just leave out the parts you don't want to quote

I admit it's an interesting idea but in terms of commerciality it's a mental idea that will never take off
there are one or two interesting paper napkin analyses on Slashdot where people run through some reasons why maybe it's not so ludicrous. Also important to remember in the short term economically it's more important it can compete with business fares, instead of economy fairs.

I think the engineering problems are way way more challenging than the economics though. But I doubt that Musk, who has actually put rockets into space, is unaware of these. I'd like to think he has a plan & that talking about this stuff now is a way of giving the human race something to collectively dream about so we have something positive in our lives.
07:38pm 10/10/17 Permalink
anonymousxvi
Brisbane, Queensland
19 posts
This seems like a very important thing, colonizing other planets should be the future objective of humanity otherwise we will run out of space on this one.
So its important to have people invest in the production of new technologies involving space flight.

thanks for sharing the post.
05:25pm 11/10/17 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
12229 posts
Maryland has given transportation pioneer Elon Musk permission to dig tunnels for the high-speed, underground transit system known as a hyperloop that Musk wants to build between New York and Washington.
Elon Musk to start hyperloop project in Maryland, officials say
10:53pm 21/10/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18475 posts
Pretty sure Elon Musk already is and/or will be the most influential person for humanities achievements for the 21st century. It will be hard to top his pivotal role in humanities achievements over the next 80 years, particularly if he pulls off getting humans established on Mars.


Hyperloop is a pipe dream (lulz) and have you heard his latest brain fart about using rockets to transport people around the world? you have got to be kidding


If other people said it, you'd probably be right. However Musk has a history of delivering on what he talks about. The good thing about him, is he will admit something as not being feasible if it works out that way instead of trying to save face.

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10:21am 23/10/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
839 posts
This seems like a very important thing, colonizing other planets should be the future objective of humanity otherwise we will run out of space on this one.
So its important to have people invest in the production of new technologies involving space flight.

thanks for sharing the post.

IMO this is a terrible reason why we should explore the stars. We can easily handle population growth by having population limits based on how many people we can sustain per country/area. We're already on our way to stability, our "average output" has been stable since ~1950s at about 2.1 children/couple. Our world population will stabilise at 11 billion sometime in 2100.

"We're gonna f*** this one, so we better find another one to f*** up" is a horrible thought :(
12:06pm 23/10/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23925 posts
Yeah, I don't think that's Elon Musk's reason for doing it anyway, in interviews where I've seen him talk about it, its more of a "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" kind of mentality for him. Take the human race to the stars so that if something terrible happened to Earth, like getting hit by an asteroid or an extinction level solar flare or something, the human race wouldn't be wiped out
12:18pm 23/10/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18476 posts
TO BODILY GO WHERE NO F***** HAS GONE BEFORE!

Is surely reason enough.

Extra points to the less obvious Star Trek reference .. as opposed to the obvious one. To what am I referring to?
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