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Game of Thrones - tv show
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40673 posts
So show is back sudnay nite and is going off script.

I am both excited and nervous about not f*****g it up.

The tv show is awesome, but the books rule supreme.

FFS GEORGY, HURRY UP AND GIVE US THE NEXT BOOK.
05:19pm 14/07/17 Permalink
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BladeRunner
Queensland
2723 posts
I am looking forward to it as well. I have pretty much forgotten what was happening last season. Knowing the HBO guys, there will probably throw in a twist or 2 to keep us on our toes.
05:51pm 14/07/17 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5332 posts
What twists? They're so far in front of the books now anything they show us is "new".
07:25pm 14/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2725 posts
Twist as in something unexpected. Not, deviation from the books, because as you said, we are in front of the books.
09:32am 15/07/17 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
23733 posts
it's a kids show
09:37am 15/07/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18411 posts
Infi,

We are all just kids, bigger and better at being kids than we were when younger, but still kids really. Embrace it.

That GoT intro music ... so good.
09:52am 15/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40674 posts
im just finishing the books the second time around, amazing how much stuff you pick up on a second reading.
10:18am 15/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40676 posts
Its here.
11:40am 17/07/17 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
21306 posts
someone dies ?
03:32pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5780 posts
someone dies ?


Everybody dies
03:44pm 17/07/17 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
12846 posts
Forget GoT theres been a f*****g disaster of epic proportions.
Dr Who has transitioned into a Woman.

I snapped my Sonic Screwdriver in disgust.
06:06pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40679 posts
theres been nothing worth watching on fta for 10 years and now i have to juggle GOT vs aussie ninja.

not happy.
06:45pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5781 posts
theres been nothing worth watching on fta for 10 years and now i have to juggle GOT vs aussie ninja. not happy.


Get with the times, buy a VCR
06:46pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Nmag
Sydney, New South Wales
819 posts
After watching the first episode I thought.. "s*** this is pretty good". So then I didn't watch any more of it at all, and read all the books. Which are huge btw. Must have taken at least a year. If they were crap I would not have had the patience to read them. I avoided all spoilers and web crap.

Then watched the episodes over a couple weeks intensive style. Impressively made shows. Great casting.

I watch most of these

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08:00pm 17/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2727 posts
Just watched it. It was pretty good episode. Look forward to more of it.
08:15pm 17/07/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19108 posts
that was probably the best opening the show has ever had.
08:52pm 17/07/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25937 posts
Yep, was awesome.
09:01pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23833 posts
That's how you start a season
09:49pm 17/07/17 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
16765 posts
Great ep, but I miss the division between book nerds and casuals.
10:28pm 17/07/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7672 posts
F*****g Ed Sheeran! I can't escape that c***, even on GOT
11:25pm 17/07/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4232 posts
12:38am 18/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40680 posts
i liked his contribution.

bit heavy on the poops for my liking, but yer pretty good first ep!
06:33am 18/07/17 Permalink
taggs
6496 posts
Great ep but f*** they dragged out the danaerys return to dragonstone scene. Good last line from her but.
11:31am 18/07/17 Permalink
Reverend
Gold Coast, Queensland
2131 posts

Danaerys give me the f***en horn !!!!
12:47pm 18/07/17 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
10633 posts
Ed Sheeran scene was a waste of space. Seriously added nothing, the song was s***a nd it was in the book. (i.e. he sung it s***)

The Rains Of Castamere kicked s*** through it. Even "It's Always Summer Under the Sea" the closing credits for s3e5 ...

Ravn0s and anyone else that thinks that was the best start of season is .

S4 I think might have been the best
S1, S2, S3 all significantly better.

Based on the Director's for this season.... we can only hope for 1 or 2 good episodes.
07:22pm 18/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40681 posts
i have to admit, i kept waiting for arya to stab ed or one of his mates, it did all seem a bit too nice for got universe.
07:29pm 18/07/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7674 posts
08:25pm 18/07/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1096 posts
I'm waiting for a shot in episode 2 where Arya is riding away from the camp and all the Lannister soldiers are dead.
09:19pm 18/07/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4027 posts
Pretty sure that scene was to teach Arya that most people are just normal folk getting swept up in the madness of the powerful and don't deserve her wrath.

The worst thing about GoT is all the actors getting cast in other s*** and ruining it. F*** Loras for ruining Iron Fist and the Inhumans looks like a steaming pile of s*** and it's probably all Ramsay's fault.
09:36pm 18/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2728 posts
11:44pm 18/07/17 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
9462 posts
rofl, "Pirate wants a wife".
10:39am 20/07/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4030 posts
That episode was s***.

Should be titled the eunuch episode and if you think Sam's scenes were gross last week, f*** me this week was just uncalled for.
07:51pm 24/07/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7677 posts
turd vomit montage was worse than the scab peel
10:59pm 24/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2733 posts
Not as good as the first one but it's alright. It's like pizza, even mediocre pizza is still pizza. Old Theon faltered at the moment of truth, wonder if he will ever get his s*** together. This is going to mess up Dannies plans, I wonder if she will attack King's Landing now. Almost had a hot leso scene though......damn it. Couldn't old mate wait half an hour so we could have been some nice girl on girl action.
02:04am 25/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40698 posts
episode felt cartoony, feels like we're steering into f***up territory.....
07:04am 25/07/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23835 posts
I had to look away during the scab cutting bit, I knew it was gonna be bad as soon as you see the picture in Sam's book of a dude getting his back sliced off :( Loved that scene transition at the end though, that was clever

Arya's bits are starting to feel a bit too fan-servicey though, meeting back up with hotpie, seeing her wolf again, I've gone from being really interested in seeing where her story goes to feeling like her scenes are a bit of a waste of screen time :(

Battle at the end was pretty cool though, Euron's crazy demon head gangplank thing that came down and mashed a guy made me laugh. Also worth it to see those annoying sisters get owned.
10:38am 25/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40699 posts
Everyone is at dragonstone already?

Euron was just at kings landing, now hes near dragonstone?

Arya, wtf eating/wolf.
10:40am 25/07/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23836 posts
Euron was just at kings landing, now hes near dragonstone?


Dragonstone and Kings Landing aren't they far away from each other, but they were sailing south from Dragonstone anyway though and heading back to Dorne, so they'd be pretty much going past kings landing to get there, would be easy enough for Euron to intercept them. I was thinking more how the f*** did he know where they were? Especially at night too
10:44am 25/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2734 posts
There were sailing their fleet with lanterns lit, so that is not very stealthy. Euron could have had fast scout ships out there in the sea looking for Yara and her fleet too.
01:10pm 25/07/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25949 posts
Top tier episode that one.
02:52pm 31/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2738 posts
Yeah not bad. Old Danny and Tyrion are getting out played by Euron and Cersi. Olenna Tyrell is still f*****g with Lannisters even before she bites it. Next week won't come quick enough.
03:15pm 31/07/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7715 posts
I thought the Sam s***-pot montage was on of the best moments of any season so far.

Was sure Cersei's old mate was going to unveil something a little more amazing than a f*****g ballista. noone has ever tried to shoot down a f*****g dragon before? like that is some stroke of genius? seems kinda f*****g derp to me.

episode 3 was pretty good. I like the way Dany is managing to f*** up her invasion and get outplayed at every turn so far. keeping things spicy and hopefully take her arrogance down a notch. seems she needs Jon Snow way more than she could've thought.
03:28pm 31/07/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4243 posts
some funny moments in this one from Daenerys
04:16pm 31/07/17 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
9470 posts
I haven't watched episode 3 yet - just sitting down to do so now - but I'm going to make a prediction for season 7: Daenerys loses the war.
07:25pm 31/07/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
753 posts
What a disappointment, the 3 lesbians dying like that. I really liked the Dawnish people. Sad to see them get tossed aside by the writers like that. Do the books treat them differently?
07:57pm 31/07/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19111 posts
rip olenna. at least she went out with the last laugh.
08:39pm 31/07/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4032 posts
Was sure Cersei's old mate was going to unveil something a little more amazing than a f*****g ballista. noone has ever tried to shoot down a f*****g dragon before? like that is some stroke of genius? seems kinda f*****g derp to me.
The way this season has gone so far is whenever they show you someones plans they fall apart a few scenes later, so good bet that the ballista doesn't exactly win the day for ol' Cersei.

Nice to see Headly's body double getting another brief appearance this week.
10:22pm 31/07/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2739 posts
Was sure Cersei's old mate was going to unveil something a little more amazing than a f*****g ballista. noone has ever tried to shoot down a f*****g dragon before?


Yeah, that is a good point. I would have imagined that there would have been a few of those around to fight the Targaryens and their dragons. Perhaps those were just standard ballistas and not old mate's specially crafted dragon killer ones.

@ Raven - That is an interesting thought, I remember back in season 2 or something when Danny visits the magical tower thing and meets those weird dudes who want to control her and her dragons. She gets a vision of the throne room in King's Landing where it's empty and there are holes in the walls and there is snow falling through. I don't remember much about it though. Maybe there is no happy ending.
10:46pm 31/07/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7682 posts
Only in GOT would you have a scene where a pirate asks a Queen's incestuous lover whether she likes a bit of stink-finger
11:05pm 31/07/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40718 posts
episode felt cartoony
06:03am 01/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23845 posts
Only in GOT would you have a scene where a pirate asks a Queen's incestuous lover whether she likes a bit of stink-finger


Haha, yeah, I know hes the villain and we're supposed to hate him, but I'm loving Euron so far this season.

What a disappointment, the 3 lesbians dying like that. I really liked the Dawnish people. Sad to see them get tossed aside by the writers like that. Do the books treat them differently?


The show is way ahead of the books at this point, its all uncharted territory
09:25am 01/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2116 posts
02:44pm 03/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19112 posts
so did anyone else catch those leaks for the rest of the season? i couldn't help myself.

03:38pm 03/08/17 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
16770 posts
so did anyone else catch those leaks for the rest of the season? i couldn't help myself.


I will legit do a nana if they get posted here
05:16pm 03/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
763 posts
02:21pm 04/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1098 posts
Run you idiot
11:56am 05/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18414 posts

Was sure Cersei's old mate was going to unveil something a little more amazing than a f*****g ballista. noone has ever tried to shoot down a f*****g dragon before?


Yeah, that is a good point. I would have imagined that there would have been a few of those around to fight the Targaryens and their dragons. Perhaps those were just standard ballistas and not old mate's specially crafted dragon killer ones.


Plot Device.

In the books Euron has something much, much more useful .. supposedly. We don't actually know if it works as the books haven't revealed that yet.
Except to use that something Euron has in the show, would mean including a bunch of arcs they have totally skipped. So I guess the Balista is the s*** version of what Euron supposedly has.
04:39pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18415 posts
The f*****g White Walkers plod South, takes at least 6.5 seasons to get to the wall (if they get there this season..) ..

And Bran, who cant even f*****g walk, gets from the deep North, to the wall, to Winterfell .. in a strong winter (a white walker winter at that) ... in what ... an episode or two?

If a little kid sitting on a sled being pulled by a small (but lean) older kid, through extreme snowy weather, can make it that far so quickly what the hell are the white walkers doing, stopping for picnics? It's not like they need to sleep, or eat .. they just shamble 24/7.
Perhaps the Night King doesn't have a compass?
04:44pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1099 posts
Maybe there's lots of rivers north of the wall? (Running water)

Maybe he's waiting for something.
04:51pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40726 posts
all the timings in the new seasons are way out of whack.

people/armies/children are everywhere at once!

just the poor old white walkers cant take advantage of the loose timings!
05:10pm 05/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19113 posts
my guess is that there's some sort of magic in the wall stopping the white walkers from advancing.
05:53pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18416 posts
Rukh ... they'd be frozen rivers by now...
05:56pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40727 posts
pretty sure they are going around the wall
05:56pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1100 posts
If the White Walkers can't cross running water then they won't be walking around the Wall.

And the Wall is still there. If they can't go around, they need to go through the Wall. Which is magically warded against them.

They need a way to defeat the Wall. Which at present they obviously don't possess, so it doesn't really matter how slowly they travel. Maybe, in the meantime, they've just been roaming the north of the wall killing/turning anything alive.

Book readers have been given hints that there is a way to destroy the Wall. Mind you, that sub-plot doesn't exist in the tv show so there is obviously something else....
07:29pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40728 posts
07:41pm 05/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19114 posts
ep 4 has been leaked. some are saying it's the best episode of the series.
08:43pm 05/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7718 posts
what are the other people saying?
08:58pm 05/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25961 posts
Either they'll walk around the wall or they'll get through it the same way they got to the Three-Eyed Raven - Bran has been marked by the Night King.

Here's a theory I heard and agree with. For Team Dani, the south is lost. The Unsullied are stranded as are the Dornish. The Lannisters are provisioned and fortified at Highgarden. The Iron Fleet control the seas. I reckon Dani and crew will sneak up north and hide behind the wall/close to it and let the White Walkers go to war with the Lannisters and their allies. Then when the time is right, swoop in and destroy the White Walkers with their dragon glass and dragon fire and either rout the remaining Lannisters or accept their surrender.
09:01pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1101 posts
It's possible that Episode 4 is damned good. ;)
09:05pm 05/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40729 posts
well, that was FLIPPING AWESEOME.

great effects, well used.
08:24am 06/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40731 posts
i reckon old mate kahleesi mite be going mental.
08:43am 06/08/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2741 posts
I downloaded the 720p version but it looked like just an upscaled 360p version to me, so I just deleted it. I will wait for tomorrow's proper rip. Thanks for keeping it spoiler free until tomorrow. I hope it's as good as you say.
11:45am 06/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4254 posts
yeah it's tagged as pre-air and probably a stream cloned or an Amazon tech leaked

Overall bit rate : 781 kb/s

waste of 291Mb
06:11pm 06/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1102 posts
It was leaked from an Indian based broadcaster or something based off the watermarks.
07:09pm 06/08/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2742 posts
Good episode. Poor old Bronn, lost his sack of gold :( and no castle either. Theon's existence is just sad, why won't he just die. I would hate to be the guy playing him, it would be depressing.

also...
https://i.imgur.com/zb6ok2O.jpg
02:45pm 07/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7721 posts
spicy episode
I guess the ballista was a genius idea after all
02:48pm 07/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40734 posts
Only cos Bron is da man
04:09pm 07/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4033 posts
Here just let me yank this barbed spear the f*** out of your shoulder. Worst vet ever.

The Arya fight with Ginger Beards woman was great, almost makes up for the useless Arya scenes last ep.
07:17pm 07/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19115 posts
damn good episode. not the best but definitely top 5.
08:31pm 07/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23853 posts
Something horrible is gonna have to happen to all the Starks, s*** is just getting way too happy there. The only time stuff gets that happy and upbeat in game of thrones is right before something terrible happens
09:58pm 07/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7687 posts
I'm sorry but that final battle scene was f*****g epic
10:06pm 07/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40736 posts
I got no idea of the time frames of this series, armies are everywhere at once!
10:12am 08/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2120 posts
So Jamie is dead right?

Golden hand, armour, bottom of lake.

Also he was starting to become likeable so now is prime time for his death.
10:18am 08/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40737 posts
I assume super bronn will save him.
10:29am 08/08/17 Permalink
shody
Brisbane, Queensland
94 posts
Either that or the dragon will swim down and scoop him up and they will have a nice little prisoner!
10:32am 08/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23854 posts
I don't think Jaime will be dead, if they wanted to kill him, they would have not bothered saving him from the dragon. I actually thought he was f***ed at that point, I didn't expect him to get last minute crash tackled out of the way
10:55am 08/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4034 posts
I was kind of disappointed he got saved which just goes to show how how twisted expectations have become with this show.

I was thinking it had been a while since anyone who really matter died.
11:01am 08/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2121 posts
Also, since the starks are all happy family again who is littlefinger going to murder?

Arya, not sure why yet but he did see her fighting skills and knows she's got that shiny new dagger. So it might be he needs to wipe out this threat.

Or bran because he would know or will know that littlefinger betrayed their dad and possibly gave that knife to his wanna be cut throat.

Possibly both because Bran tells Arya what's up with littlefinger.
12:11pm 08/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25979 posts
Isn't the Hound heading to Winterfell? He witnessed LF's betrayal first hand.
12:14pm 08/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40738 posts
Arya to f*** up littlefinger, possibly wearing sansa's face
12:17pm 08/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19116 posts
Isn't the Hound heading to Winterfell? He witnessed LF's betrayal first hand.


no, he's heading to eastwatch-by-the-sea. it's the same place jon sent tormund to.

i loved how freaked out littlefinger was after bran said "chaos is a ladder". that's the same line littlefinger spoke to varys back in season 3.
12:34pm 08/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25980 posts
The Hound and Tormund are gonna be total bros.

Seeing Jon and Dany in the same frame is a little bit special I reckon. When's Bran finally going to let the team know about Jon's parentage? He's got dragons he could be riding on.
12:44pm 08/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
764 posts


no, he's heading to eastwatch-by-the-sea. it's the same place jon sent tormund to.

i loved how freaked out littlefinger was after bran said "chaos is a ladder". that's the same line littlefinger spoke to varys back in season 3.

I googled this because wtf. Yeah it turns out he was lecturing Varys on Chaos.

Bran is odd, I get he is being consumed by his powers and forgetting who he is. But the old 3-eyed raven wasn't like Bran, he seemed to have a personality. It's Paul Atreides from Dune style omniscience, which means he sees possibilities but not events. I wonder then, does he seem a convergence of possibilities? A single event that all timelines lead to...

because currently for an all-seeing cripple he sure is doing jack s***.

FYI, the dagger is gonna be super important of course.

Or bran because he would know or will know that littlefinger betrayed their dad and possibly gave that knife to his wanna be cut throat.
I always thought this was funny because Eddard Stark was a f*****g idiot. Littlefinger advised him clearly to not be a dumbass and shut his mouth about the children being bastards. He had little choice, go against the lannisters and get smashed or screw over Eddard Stark, have him banished to the wall. He didn't foresee Joffrey killing Eddard and starting a revolt.

Littlefinger has a hardon for Stark girls, so imo he's actually one of the more loyal subjects.
12:58pm 08/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40740 posts
fully sik effects

06:49am 09/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4267 posts
hectic's s***'s going to look fulli on a 4K when it's available on BD

really that was one of the best eps of GoT ever
08:26am 09/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23859 posts
Do they release Game of thrones on 4K blu-ray now? I haven't checked, but I'd absolutely be up for some UltraHD 4k Game of Thrones, I'd probably wait till its over though and buy the whole series on 4k and rewatch it all, that'd be epic
11:45am 09/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2123 posts

Seeing Jon and Dany in the same frame is a little bit special I reckon. When's Bran finally going to let the team know about Jon's parentage? He's got dragons he could be riding on.


I wonder if Danny is going to try and burn Jon, he doesn't burn and it proves he's a targy?

Or like he accidentally gets roasted in the whitewalker war but it is just him buck nekkid with longclaw. Weiner weiner weiner.

07:43pm 09/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19117 posts
viserys burned when he received his golden crown so fire/heat immunity isn't a targaryen trait. dany's immunity is due to magical reasons.


last edited by ravn0s at 20:34:02 09/Aug/17
08:30pm 09/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
770 posts
viserys burned when he received his golden crown so fire/heat immunity isn't a targaryen trait. dany's immunity is due to magical reasons.


Yeah this, it could be a female trait of the targaryens.

I loled at Jon checking her out. Damn, don't check your auntie out! Unless... the targys did marry their siblings. They probably marry their aunties too.

That would be a great ending, Jon and Dany riding a dragon into a sunset.
09:13am 10/08/17 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
9481 posts
That would be a great ending, Jon and Dany riding a dragon into a sunset.
Yeah but it's Game of Thrones, so it'll be done more like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, where he's riding off in to the sunset slumped over on the dragon dead.

Also, how screwed is Cersei now? She's now lost everything she was going to use to repay the iron bank (you know what they say about putting all your eggs in one basket) AND she's just had her army wiped out. Now she's at the mercy of Euron and the Iron Bank, and I'm sure the other realms will see to revolt given she can't stop them.

last edited by Raven at 09:46:00 10/Aug/17
09:44am 10/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40746 posts
The gold got back to kings landing.

Dragon was just burning up the crops.
09:53am 10/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1104 posts
She hasn't lost any of the gold that was to repay the debt to the Iron Bank.
Just before the final battle, when Tarly rode up to Jaime, he reported that the wagon with all the gold made it safely through the gate at the Red Keep in King's Landing.

The wagon train that Drogon burnt was full of captured food etc. So her armies (and people in KL) might starve but the debt to the Iron Bank is paid.
10:30am 10/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23861 posts
Also, how screwed is Cersei now? She's now lost everything she was going to use to repay the iron bank


I think that was just the food that got destroyed, cos there was a comment at the start of the scene about how all the gold was already safe inside Kings Landing. Still, with no food, shes still pretty screwed.

Edit: Hey, I should have checked the last page before replying I guess. Third times a charm?
10:43am 10/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4036 posts
I don't even think it was most of the army, I think they were with the gold and the lot that got burnt up had just fallen behind.

I'm wondering what will happen to Jamie as Tyrion should have seen the last minute save and considering his loyalty has been questioned a few times I wonder whether he will leave Bron to save him or get Danny's men to fish him out so he can be used as a bargaining chip.

I'm also thinking that the Arya/Big Lady spar might be foreshadowing for a Mountain/Arya face off.
01:49pm 10/08/17 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
9482 posts
Ohh, I somehow missed that :( Rather critical plot point to miss I guess.
02:42pm 10/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25988 posts
Seems possible that Jaime may be captured, again. The Lannister forces were overrun so I don't really see how he'll be rescued or how he'll escape. I am going overseas for a week so there'll be two episodes of GoT and Rick and Morty waiting for me when I get home!!!
02:46pm 10/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19118 posts
i should never had read those leaks. i can't speculate with others now. :(
03:47pm 10/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25989 posts
Could create a separate thread for it.
04:32pm 10/08/17 Permalink
Chancre
Brisbane, Queensland
44 posts


I wonder if Danny is going to try and burn Jon, he doesn't burn and it proves he's a targy?

Or like he accidentally gets roasted in the whitewalker war but it is just him buck nekkid with longclaw. Weiner weiner weiner.


I thought Jon burned his hand in the first season throwing a lantern at a Wight?
07:34pm 10/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19119 posts
I thought Jon burned his hand in the first season throwing a lantern at a Wight?


he did indeed.
07:40pm 10/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7689 posts
09:50pm 10/08/17 Permalink
Gibster
205 posts
Raven, the old dude that rides up to Jamie and Bronn says that the gold has made it through the gates at kings landing, so the gold is secure. What was attacked was the rear of the army, the stragglers, which the old man (cant remember his name) wanted to whip. Jamie didn't like that idea... oh how much he must regret not listening to experience.
07:23am 12/08/17 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
9484 posts
It was bound to happen: The epic sparring scene done as a lightsaber battle.

10:23am 14/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40761 posts
NEW GOT DAY
11:08am 14/08/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2747 posts
That was interesting. Looks like old Sam is now the leader of house Tarley.

It seems a plot is afoot at Winterfell. Sansa wants to be Queen of the North or something. What did the message say? What is the significance?
04:04pm 14/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40763 posts
episode felt cartoony
08:14pm 14/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23866 posts
Bit of a slow one, lot of character stuff and setup and building stuff up for the last few episodes of the season I guess. Kinda had to slow down a little after last week I guess.

I wish Littlefinger would get whats coming to him already, one way or the other. I'm getting sick of him always lurking and smirking
12:33am 15/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4037 posts
I feel like we are getting to the awkward stage where the slow build up of the white walkers that's been going on as an inevitable climax needs to take over from the game of thrones part that most of Westeros has been focused on.

I mean Danny went from BBQ'ing 2 dudes that had bad knees to agreeing to not immediately killing Cersei if she some how agrees to help fight the white walkers and then Cersei went from fighting to their deaths to maybe we can just talk things out? All in the one episode.
10:32am 15/08/17 Permalink
taggs
6504 posts
Getting a bit sick of dany tbh.
11:28am 15/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
774 posts
Oh s***. Rhaegar confirmed to be married to the stark girl. Oh s*** Jon is the rightful king.
I mean Danny went from BBQ'ing 2 dudes that had bad knees to agreeing to not immediately killing Cersei if she some how agrees to help fight the white walkers and then Cersei went from fighting to their deaths to maybe we can just talk things out? All in the one episode.

It's fairly clear the writers of the show can't hold a candle to old GRRM. But they're Cersei is using it as a ploy. SHe's clearly on the losing side, with more time she can out maneuver her enemies
11:41am 15/08/17 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
1001 posts
I feel things are moving along too quick now. Major plot point to major plot point in the blink of an eye. Some people probably like that but... it feels like I'm eating dessert every meal and I need some meat and veg. You can really tell they've run out of book and just hitting the highlights now to finish it up.

It's still good. But it's not quite as engrossing as it used to be.
01:23pm 15/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19121 posts
HBO spain accidentally aired episode 6. idiots.
06:29pm 16/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40766 posts
to the torrents!
06:34pm 16/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23869 posts
I feel things are moving along too quick now. Major plot point to major plot point in the blink of an eye. Some people probably like that but... it feels like I'm eating dessert every meal and I need some meat and veg. You can really tell they've run out of book and just hitting the highlights now to finish it up.


Yeah, it does feel a bit like that, I'm wondering if its because of the shorter season they need to cram more in. Or yeah, maybe its just cos they're run out of book and they're not just as good at writing as GRRM
06:38pm 16/08/17 Permalink
pARODY
Brisbane, Queensland
1203 posts
07:19pm 16/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4284 posts
it's half the bitrate of just waiting until Monday

pass
08:09pm 16/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40768 posts
lols, "cough"
08:15pm 16/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19122 posts
Yeah, it does feel a bit like that, I'm wondering if its because of the shorter season they need to cram more in. Or yeah, maybe its just cos they're run out of book and they're not just as good at writing as GRRM


imo it feels quick because character location changes now occur within the same episode (sometimes multiple times) instead of over the course of multiple episodes. there's fewer characters now and most of them are sharing scenes together so there's not enough story filler to pad out the episodes and make the journey's seem longer.

08:34pm 16/08/17 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
1002 posts
For the curious. The video is passable. The audio is atrocious. Sounds like a microphone held up to a TV speaker or something. Not recommended.
08:40pm 16/08/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2751 posts
The audio is a little off, in my version but its alright. There is another version with s*** audio apparently. If you want it, get the 1.92gb version.

Just finished watching it. That episode had interesting developments. I will not post spoilers until the usual monday afternoon normal release.
09:09pm 16/08/17 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
1003 posts
Yep. Seems I got the crappy one. 2.06GB is the one I have now. Quality is good.
10:01pm 16/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4285 posts
Spoiler:
wait so what he bens d knee but he doesn't actually Ben D Knee....and Drogons bro Viserion get's iced, so if you hovered over the spoiler tag by almost on accident it's probably now you'd wish you hadn't
12:11am 17/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40769 posts
For the curious. The video is passable. The audio is atrocious. Sounds like a microphone held up to a TV speaker or something. Not recommended.


that is exactly what has happened.

old mate coughs while he's recording the audio.

i have no idea why he would have done it this way!>?

as for the ep, O_o!!!
06:42am 17/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4286 posts
^ it's likely that ep6 airing was so unexpected that the audio was phone recorded instead of capturing and remuxing the audio chan from the digital source
10:28am 17/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4039 posts
Yep. Seems I got the crappy one. 2.06GB is the one I have now. Quality is good.
Yeah nothing wrong with that version.

I won't post any spoilers but I can bearly believe what I saw, some really exciting moments undid the sense that the show would just drag on.
12:43pm 17/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7724 posts
OH S*** SON!~~!

tho now 2 weeks for a new episode >:(
06:13pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40770 posts
ffs

and only 2 more eps for this season!
06:29pm 17/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19123 posts
ffs

and only 2 more eps for this season!


only one if you watched episode 6.
08:36pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40772 posts
i thought it was 8 this season and 7 next?
08:41pm 17/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19124 posts
nope, 7 this season and 6 the next.
08:53pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23871 posts
Nah, 7 episodes in this season and 6 in the next
08:54pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18419 posts
Ohhhhh snnaappp

Ep 6 delivers, Sansa is still a s*** actor but.
10:31pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Jayman
Brisbane, Queensland
1004 posts
Ohhhhh snnaappp

Ep 6 delivers, Sansa is still a s*** actor but.


I thought this episode she actually wasn't that bad. I think the trio of younger stark kids (Bran / Arya / Sansa) aren't much chop acting wise though, in an otherwise brilliant cast.
10:55pm 17/08/17 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5335 posts
Said to my partner the other day that Jamie is acting rings around everyone else.
06:06am 18/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23872 posts
imo it feels quick because character location changes now occur within the same episode (sometimes multiple times) instead of over the course of multiple episodes. there's fewer characters now and most of them are sharing scenes together so there's not enough story filler to pad out the episodes and make the journey's seem longer.


Yeah, but its gone way too far in the opposite direction, people jump from place to place like everywhere in Westeros is only a few hours away from everywhere else. Without posting spoilers, but it was taken to a ridiculous extreme in episode 6, and that just comes down to s*** writing.
09:28am 18/08/17 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
6318 posts
I didn't find the location jumping that extreme in episode 6 compared to Episode 4
11:18am 18/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40773 posts
the whole season has been crazy!
11:45am 18/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23873 posts
Not so much the location jumping, as much as the timeframes, like so much happens and they cover so much distance in what realistically can't be more than a few hours, and it just really stood out to me as sloppy in that episode especially. The world used to feel huge and like a real place, now it feels tiny and things are as close to each other as they need to be for the writers to pull out their deus ex machinas.
11:53am 18/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
777 posts
I think GoT the show should have waited for GRRM to release the books.
11:58am 18/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40774 posts
george, hurry up and f*****g release the next booK!!!!!!!
12:01pm 18/08/17 Permalink
funky
Canada
1907 posts
I saw something from him that said there will be at least one ASOIAF world book from him in 2018, maybe 2. what do you want to bet that the one that is actually released is the big history of the targaryens rather than f*****g winds of winter?
11:31pm 18/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23874 posts
July 2011 was the last one, so its over 6 years to write this book, probably going on 7 by the time it actually comes out. He had so much lead time, I remember when the show started, we all imagined he'd have the series wrapped up before the show caught up to the books, and he pretty much hasn't released a new book for the entire time the show has been on tv.
11:57pm 18/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40779 posts
ep7 mite be getting leaked!
10:25am 20/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25992 posts
Yes please.
11:31am 20/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19125 posts
RIP thoros and viserion....



viserion re-enters the game.
08:32pm 21/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7701 posts
That was silly .. but it was still awesome.
09:30pm 21/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23877 posts
So in the time it takes for water to freeze, gendry ran back to eastwatch, sent a raven to dragonstone and then Daenerys flew back on her dragons. That's just ridiculous, shoddy writing
10:12pm 21/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40781 posts
time and distance no longer have any meaning
05:22am 22/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7725 posts
yeahhhhh....
even if they were there for 24 hours that would still be a bit of a stretch.

still though, it's been awesome to finally see her dragons f*****g s*** up.

zombie dragon is gonna be hekin skitz af m8~!!

we also seem to be getting closer to some moar hot hot incest between dany and jon (y)
11:28am 22/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18422 posts

Said to my partner the other day that Jamie is acting rings around everyone else.


Yeah he does well, he has to be in the top 5 of my favourite characters.

Ser Davos Seaworth does an excellent job too.

I have to give mad props to The Hound as well, he's doing excellent, btw he is totally going to be Azor Ahai reborn, so much foreshadowing with him being afraid of fire .. totally obvious he is going to powerup at some point and have to step into/through fire to do something epic and in the process .. becomes reborn. Be he does a Deus Ex Machina moment on Baby Blue Dragon (which for some reason has been turned to stone) and f**** s*** up.

Poor Tyrion hasn't had many opportunities to do his magic this season, the fast pace of the scenes and having to pander to the every growing narcissistic Danny is messing with his s***.


So in the time it takes for water to freeze, Gendry ran back to East Watch, sent a raven to dragonstone and then Daenerys flew back on her dragons. That's just ridiculous, shoddy writing


To me I felt the Fellowship of the Hound journey (which admittedly had some solid exchanges mainly by The Hound and his lover Tormund) was across several days .. thinking on it, they didn't show camping.. Then Gendry runs back to wall and is puffed in that scene implying he ran the whole way .. which couldn't have been all that far given you now .. at least ankle/knee deep snow everywhere.

Distance between East Watch and Dragonstone is about 2400 Km's. A raven flying at a non-stop cracking pace, about 80 km/h would take at about 30 hours to get there. Likely it'd average at a slower speed, so at least 48 hours seems reasonable (add in rest time too).

Then assuming Danny jumped straight onto her dragon .. I think it's fair to say that the Dragon could fly maybe 150km/h without Danny being swept off, she has no saddle at all.. it'd get tiring as well having to grip strongly with the constant assault of wind and the gusts that randomly happen..
That's another 16 hours at least .. realistically Danny would surely have to make a pitstop..

So that means the Fellowship of the Hound had to be sitting on that rock for a good ... 3 days..
I guess that makes it understandable why The Hound was bored out of his skull and starting throwing rocks.. Given his rather impulsive nature that's an epic feat ;)

I totally hated the, yet another Deus Ex Machina, moment of Coldhands showing up and .. well his ending was pathetically s***.


So in the time it takes for water to freeze, gendry ran back to eastwatch, sent a raven to dragonstone and then Daenerys flew back on her dragons. That's just ridiculous, shoddy writing


To be fair, the water could have been frozen for ages, it wasn't until the Hound threw the rock and showed the Army of the Most Patient that it was frozen.. We'll just ignore why the Night King and his White walker buddies didn't think about .. they were just sitting back, chillen and doing a boss-level brooding at Jon.

Also, Night King - 2017 Javelin World Champ.


Also ..

WHERE THE F*** DID THEY GET THOSE EPIC CHAINS FROM? Shot after Shot after shot of the Walking Dead Army showed absolutely NO provisions other than what they are shambling along with, not even the dead Giants were carrying anything much. ..

I guess they located, mined, smelted and forged them whilst Jon rode off into the sunset.

last edited by Tollaz0r! at 12:07:05 22/Aug/17
12:05pm 22/08/17 Permalink
shody
Brisbane, Queensland
95 posts
Jon not jumping on the dragon in favour of getting a few more kills didn't really feel in character for him. I'd understand it if it was The Hound, but Jon staying back to fight a little longer just felt forced.

After old mate threw that spear, I'd be burninating him and his buddies straight away too.

Agree about the chains too - not only where did they get them, but how did they get them on the dragon? If they are able to just walk them down because they don't need to breathe, I would've thought the ones that went down with Jon would've easily messed him up?

I'm also getting tired of Jon 'dying' - I'm hoping they keep doing it so that everyone will think of Jon what Biggie thought of Tupac in this clip https://youtu.be/muKY_f0iaKs?t=15s

Also, Jon getting Danny to side with him, and then being all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSUSFow70no even though he didn't need to was annoying. I'd have preferred he stuck to his guns - the North will probably think the same too...

12:23pm 22/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40782 posts
Jon not jumping on the dragon in favour of getting a few more kills didn't really feel in character for him. I'd understand it if it was The Hound, but Jon staying back to fight a little longer just felt forced.


have you forgotten the battle of the bastards!?

06:55pm 22/08/17 Permalink
funky
Canada
1908 posts
I viewed it as Jon fighting further and distracting the wights so everyone else could get away, which seemed pretty in character?
11:51pm 22/08/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1106 posts
My theory is, again, that the Night King knows what he's doing and apart from the second javelin miss it's all been proceeding according to his plan...

That is, he knows his army can't get past the wall normally due to the magical protections so he needs something special to take care of that. So he's been in no rush to head to the wall itself. In his amazing patience (and maybe with some sort of prophecy?) he's been waiting for some dragons to show up exactly so that he can take one out and Lich King the f*** out of it.
12:19am 23/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7702 posts
Who is the Night King?

Is he Jon's Dad reincarnated? The Mad King reincarnated?

Or just some frosty bum with ice majick?
08:43am 23/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19127 posts
Who is the Night King?

Is he Jon's Dad reincarnated? The Mad King reincarnated?

Or just some frosty bum with ice majick?


the show already covered this. he was created by the children when they stabbed a dude in the heart with dragon glass.
09:06am 23/08/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
25998 posts
Is he Jon's Dad reincarnated? The Mad King reincarnated?
Jon's dad is Rhaegar Targaryen, not the Mad King.
11:44am 23/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7727 posts
WAOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
06:24pm 28/08/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7728 posts
imo...

great episode!

this felt like the most GoT episode of the season.

and not even just because the incest is alive and well.

the fall of baelish scene was great.


my only real gripe was the zombie dragon raping the wall in one breath, which a little meh, but whatever.

people died (y) betrayal and intrigue is heightened (y) bron and tyrion reuinited (y) thormund didn't die (y) we saw more dany bewb (y) and cersei is still a c*** (y)(y)(y)
06:30pm 28/08/17 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
10983 posts
Can Bran just 'know' cersei has backed out of the truce? or does he have to be suggested to go look?
07:48pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6603 posts
Given the whole block of time they dedicated to Jon's parents getting married, that Bran had no f*****g idea about until Sam told him to go look. I'm guessing he has to go look.
08:15pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2138 posts
Yeah I don't think he just downloads history like a matrix style injection, he has to go through it.

Prolly every time he goes to the weirwood, he grabs a chunk.

Is the frost wyrm breath ice or blue fire? I need to know. Why couldn't this have been explained instead of us having to wait another year for it to burn or ice humans?!

Breddy gud ep, things I liked:
- Sansa not selling out her house and the death of littlefinger.
- Danny doing it to the one true king.
- The threat of cleganebowl.
- Jamie becoming a sell sword.
- The fall of the wall. Was not expecting this.
- The golden company conspiracy with Euron
09:32pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Vash
5510 posts
Surely its blue fire if it melted/destroyed a massive ice wall.
09:43pm 28/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4044 posts
I'm so glad Cersei is a double crossing b****, would have been super boring if she actually went north to fight the undead.

Also super glad that Jamie finally told her to get f***ed, little sad that every-mans bro Bron wasn't there with him at the end scene.

I fully expect a lot of beloved characters to get killed off next season and it will all be made up for with a hopefully satisfying death for Cersei. I'm thinking with the speed at which the wall fell that the last battle might actually be held at Kings Landing.
09:43pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Sir Redhat
Sydney, New South Wales
2139 posts
Surely its blue fire if it melted/destroyed a massive ice wall.


What if it made s*** so cold it was super brittle?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif
10:28pm 28/08/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2755 posts
people have been going on about EPICBOATSEX since last episode on https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/ Looks like it came true.

Cersi is just a c***y c***, which is just standard operating procedure for her.

Jamie doing the right thing which is good.

Little Finger got fingered. I wonder if Arya will borrow his face.

Tormund is s***ting his pants.
10:58pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18426 posts

The fall of the wall. Was not expecting this.


How could you not see that coming!? The moment Baby Blue got jav'd was the moment the wall was coming down by fire, or ice-fire, or whatever that s*** is.
I was really hoping it wouldn't be that, but well .. they really didn't have time to make it a bit more substantial. The wall was supposed to protected by magic, I figure in the books it'll be a bit more complicated.


Also.I'm going to bet all my $$'s Danny is now pregnant with super sayen king Jon seed in her, that was totally a getting pregnant sex scene.

The highlight of the episode and season tho:

Then I'm putting my winnings on The Hound for CLLLLLEEEEGGGAAANNNBBBOOOOWWWWLLLLLL IT'S BACK ON B******!
11:47pm 28/08/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40789 posts
slightly low key for final ep, almost subtle (GOT STYLEZ).

i liked it.

full setup for last season, which is now ages away.

argh.
05:31am 29/08/17 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
16777 posts
The wall was supposed to protected by magic, I figure in the books it'll be a bit more complicated.

Didn't Bran f*** that up by taking the Night King's touch through the wall?
07:48am 29/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18427 posts
I thought the Touch allowed the Knight King to track Bran. However you may be right in that it allowed Knight King to Death Stare the wall down.

Either way... the Northerners are f***ed.

That permafrost buff that follows the Whitewalkers looks nasty.
09:55am 29/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7705 posts
Reckon it was a blue flame

The inner core of the candle flame is light blue, with a temperature of around 1800 K (1500 °C). That is the hottest part of the flame. The color inside the flame becomes yellow, orange, and finally red. The gas flame appears blue because complete combustion creates enough energy to excite and ionize the gas molecules in the flame.
10:20pm 29/08/17 Permalink
trillion
Ballarat, Victoria
4307 posts
yeah draggy was spitting MAPP
11:27pm 29/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7706 posts
Belter



last edited by sLaps_Forehead at 08:41:58 30/Aug/17
08:40am 30/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
783 posts
I really liked little finger, he was a great character. The way he died was really lame, a master tactician killed by two little girls? Come on.
My theory is, again, that the Night King knows what he's doing and apart from the second javelin miss it's all been proceeding according to his plan...

That is, he knows his army can't get past the wall normally due to the magical protections so he needs something special to take care of that. So he's been in no rush to head to the wall itself. In his amazing patience (and maybe with some sort of prophecy?) he's been waiting for some dragons to show up exactly so that he can take one out and Lich King the f*** out of it.

I was thinking something similar. What was his plan to deal with the wall before there were dragons?
09:41am 30/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
784 posts


the show already covered this. he was created by the children when they stabbed a dude in the heart with dragon glass.

Someone who reads the books should confirm this: but the books are different in the White Walker origin story. It's never discussed where they came from apart from somewhere north that's always winter.

The story of white walkers being created by the children of the forest is only for the TV series.

Rough timeline is something like:

~12k years ago First men appear on Westeros
~Wage war with the children of the forest
~First Men and Children form a pact, truce for 2k years
~White walkers appear and attack children + first men
~White walkers get pushed back to the north, wall is built, wintefell is built, nights watch gets formed
~Andals invade westeros 6k years ago, kill both first men and children, convert everyone to whatever religion form 7 kingdoms
09:57am 30/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23884 posts
Well, to be fair, the books haven't got that far, that might be how the white walkers were made in the books too but we just haven't got to the reveal yet. In the books Bran has only just got to the tree where the 3 eyed raven is and in the show, that flashback where you find out how the Night King became the Night King was something Bran saw while he was training and s***, so that could still happen in the next book
12:00pm 30/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4045 posts
The whole Bran is Bran the Builder theory got a whole lot more complicated as well. If the wall was only built because Bran went back through time to build it then he would have known that a dragon would end up destroying it with out any problems. But if the wall wasn't built to begin with then perhaps the White Walkers wouldn't have had to wait as long to attack the north, which Bran couldn't know unless he originally was from a timeline without the wall.

The time paradoxes make me think the theory is dead.
01:23pm 30/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19129 posts
thought you guys might like this. bazbattles is a youtube channel that does break downs of historical battles but they did this special game of thrones video about roberts rebellion.

06:11pm 30/08/17 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6305 posts
Someone set me right because I'm thinking John Snow is screwing his sister/cousin/Aunt? If he is a Targaryen then he is tapping a relative...and getting pregnant no doubt. The dragon seemed to recognise him, I wonder if he gets to fly one into batten with Danny...oh you bet they will do that...oh yeah...TV n all.
09:02pm 30/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23886 posts
Yeah, shes his aunt
09:34pm 30/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19130 posts
the targaryens were all for incest. the heirs usually married their sibling.

dany's parents were siblings and their parents were also siblings.

last edited by ravn0s at 21:48:23 30/Aug/17
09:46pm 30/08/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4046 posts
I had this thought that maybe the reason the army of the dead moves so slow might not be because the Night King was waiting for the dragon to arrive or even because the White Walkers need a certain temperature to survive but because the undead are frail and wear out eventually. Like with no way to heal their bodies just fall apart from normal wear and tear so they move as slowly as possible to avoid losing too many soldiers as the head south.

I imagine there is like a trail of limbs and collapsed corpses left in the wake of the army trying to keep up.
11:02pm 30/08/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7707 posts
^ makes sense
07:15am 31/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
785 posts
Well, to be fair, the books haven't got that far, that might be how the white walkers were made in the books too but we just haven't got to the reveal yet. In the books Bran has only just got to the tree where the 3 eyed raven is and in the show, that flashback where you find out how the Night King became the Night King was something Bran saw while he was training and s***, so that could still happen in the next book

Fair enough point. I think it just doesn't fit that well in the timeline. Unless there's more to the Children than we've known about. i.e a splinter group made the white walkers.
I had this thought that maybe the reason the army of the dead moves so slow might not be because the Night King was waiting for the dragon to arrive or even because the White Walkers need a certain temperature to survive but because the undead are frail and wear out eventually. Like with no way to heal their bodies just fall apart from normal wear and tear so they move as slowly as possible to avoid losing too many soldiers as the head south.

I imagine there is like a trail of limbs and collapsed corpses left in the wake of the army trying to keep up.

Winter/cold weather has something to do with the White Walkers. Either they create it or they're piggy backing on it. The Long Night was the last time when the white walkers marched south.

Also if you consider an army the size of the undead with different dead things moving at different speeds, you want them to all stick together. If they spread out they can picked apart.
10:28am 31/08/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19131 posts
I had this thought that maybe the reason the army of the dead moves so slow might not be because the Night King was waiting for the dragon to arrive or even because the White Walkers need a certain temperature to survive but because the undead are frail and wear out eventually. Like with no way to heal their bodies just fall apart from normal wear and tear so they move as slowly as possible to avoid losing too many soldiers as the head south.

I imagine there is like a trail of limbs and collapsed corpses left in the wake of the army trying to keep up.


or they were waiting for winter in the south to make it more difficult for the living to put up a fight.
10:49am 31/08/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23887 posts
Also if you consider an army the size of the undead with different dead things moving at different speeds, you want them to all stick together. If they spread out they can picked apart.


The Night King obviously plays Total War
10:51am 31/08/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
786 posts


The Night King obviously plays Total War

hahaha yeah. He's smart enough to resurrect a dragon and use it to destroy a massive wall. I'm sure he doesn't want his army split up.
11:05am 31/08/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18434 posts

I really liked little finger, he was a great character. The way he died was really lame, a master tactician killed by two little girls? Come on.


Arya is extremely accomplished at deception and extremely perceptive, it's pretty much implied that she has mastered those skills to a level beyond almost everyone in the world.
Little Finger was also a master of these skills.

IMO, the way he went out was good, however the series just didn't have enough time (or the writers lacked the expertise) to show Ayra outwitting Littlefinger in an organic fashion, without having to explain it with dialog.

We saw Littlefinger playing Arya, again it was terribly portrayed in the series, giving the audience no indication that was happening until that scene when Littlefinger was gloating in the shadows. However, the show never showed Ayra or Sansa countering that, at all. .. Poor writing.

It was all for that clumsy scene 'reveal' where Sansa accuses Littlefinger as a shock surprise for the audience. It's like they wanted to capture that feeling of "OMG they just killed a Main character!!" or a Red Wedding shock, but it was just so poorly done that it came across as 'Two little girls outwitting a master tactician"
09:53am 01/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
787 posts
Wait, what? There was deception? I don't know, I didn't see any hints of it. I assumed the sisters got sick of his s***, banded together and took him out. There were scenes were I expected Arya to take off her Sansa mask after talking to Little Finger. I assumed most convos with Sansa were actually with Arya but we never saw the reveal.

Yep, there was no counter deception, politiks or spying. Just little finger running circles around people and then boop, gone. The reveal was so f*****g obvious it hurt.

What happens to the Vale now?
10:07am 01/09/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40791 posts
supposedly the girls consulted with bran to check up on him.
10:34am 01/09/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7729 posts
presumably the freaky breastfeeding kid will be lord of the vale again,
guided by old mate in the chest plate that told littlefinger yeah nah m8 ur cooked
10:55am 01/09/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40792 posts
little robin fit chucker!
11:09am 01/09/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40794 posts
01:13pm 01/09/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26016 posts
Yeah my read was that Bran told them everything and they were playing charades until they finally killed him.
01:15pm 01/09/17 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
12884 posts
Theres too much Incest in this show.

prolly Bestiality next series.
Jon Snow has Sex with one of the Dragons then gets Beast Married.
First its Gay Marriage then pretty soon, people are marrying their Dragons.

05:39pm 01/09/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40795 posts
id have a crack at cuddling my aunty if she looked like Khaleesi
06:36pm 01/09/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18435 posts
This is what I mean, we have to presume all this s*** that may or may not have happened because there was no coherency in the littlefinger setup story.

Without Martin's books it seems these Directors aren't all that great at writing quality stories.
08:18pm 01/09/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26017 posts
We were given enough hints I thought. Bran saying 'chaos is a ladder' to Littlefinger, which were the words he used to describe the situation he had created and at the hearing itself where he again repeated his words back to him. They could have written a scene where Bran told the sisters about what LF had done but he'd just be repeating things that viewers knew about and had seen already.

edit: one thing I hope is that Aiden Gillen isn't out of a job and we'll see plenty more of him. Arya will probably use him as a vector to kill the Queen which would be aweeeesome.
09:07pm 01/09/17 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6306 posts
id have a crack at cuddling my aunty if she looked like Khaleesi


No cuddling involved...I'd screw her until her ears bled. :) Sorry just had to put this out there....
01:36am 02/09/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7708 posts
^ the curtains don't match the carpet ... just sayin'
10:59am 02/09/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2758 posts

I remember I saw an article about Little Fingers death. http://www.gamesradar.com/game-of-thrones-season-7-deleted-scene-reveals-brans-role-in-that-finale-death/

Peter's death was not a great one. Perhaps with the scene mentioned above, it would have helped it out more but I think it would still have been a bit lacking and not befitting the character considering how he has been an important part of the show.

Tyrion, at the end, outside Danny's cabin, seemed odd. Standing around, listening to epic boat sex going on in the cabin. Some have said he may be jealous or uncertain about this new turn of events. I'm not sure, I imagine that he would be worried about what this may mean for Danny's alliance.


04:44pm 02/09/17 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
16780 posts
I reckon Tyrion is suss about Jon's lineage and is wtfing about moar incest in his life.
05:11pm 02/09/17 Permalink
shody
Brisbane, Queensland
96 posts
I really hope that Tyrion's expression was because it's put a spanner in the works of his long-play for the good of the Lannisters.

He was getting all up in Danny's grill about who would take over in the event she died. It would be awesome if he was pushing for her to name him the successor in the event that she died, and he only wanted that so he could take over the Lannister's enemies and make the Lannister house rule the 7 kingdoms.

If that was the game he's been playing all along, he may very well have told Cercei that in their meeting, which would make her agree / not kill him. It would also be an awesome twist to have one of the most loved characters be a really evil, long-playing strategic genius :D
06:18pm 02/09/17 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
5336 posts
Producers have already commented on Tyrion's scene. Its not him plotting its him worrying about what the sexual relationship will do to the alliance.
07:55am 03/09/17 Permalink
shody
Brisbane, Queensland
97 posts
Producers have already commented on Tyrion's scene. Its not him plotting its him worrying about what the sexual relationship will do to the alliance.


Well that'd disappointing :(
09:49am 03/09/17 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18437 posts

Producers have already commented on Tyrion's scene. Its not him plotting its him worrying about what the sexual relationship will do to the alliance.


When Tyrion worries, he plots.
06:29pm 03/09/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26018 posts
Plots and schemes.
07:02pm 03/09/17 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
7710 posts
When Tyrion worries, he plots.


I thought when he worries he gets pissed and bangs sluts.
10:12pm 03/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
789 posts


I thought when he worries he gets pissed and bangs sluts.

You shouldn't talk that way about your mum.

It would also be an awesome twist to have one of the most loved characters be a really evil, long-playing strategic genius :D
In no way is Tyrion evil. I actually think none of the living characters are evil, they all have objects feelings and dislikes etc that make them human. The only true evil are the white walkers.
10:36am 04/09/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23889 posts
Hes the god of tits and wine
11:12am 04/09/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4047 posts
Joffery tortured and murdered whores, his mother blew up a church full of people, the White Walkers are just doing what they were born to do.
11:21am 04/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
790 posts
Joffery tortured and murdered whores, his mother blew up a church full of people, the White Walkers are just doing what they were born to do.

and Rob Stark led a revolt against a stable crown leading to the deaths of thousands. Ceresi killed all her enemies and those who tortured her.

Just cause some do bad stuff doesn't make everyone else good guys. The good guys are as bad as the "bad" guys but they use s***** justifications such as honor. If they're all s*****.

That's what makes the white walkers evil, they're born to kill everything.

I'm predicting the series ends with the white walkers decimating the 7 kingdoms and driving out the humans back to Essos rendering Westeros no-mans land. A Game of Thrones where no-one is the winner and selfish desires leads to the ruin of millions of people and a whole continent.
11:41am 04/09/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23890 posts
The White Walkers are a weapon though, the children of the forest made them and used them against their enemies. Is a gun evil because it kills people?
11:53am 04/09/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2759 posts
A Game of Thrones where no-one is the winner and selfish desires leads to the ruin of millions of people and a whole continent.


I kinda like the idea of this. It would be interesting to see, all their effort, blood, sweat and tears, be for nothing.
12:20pm 04/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
791 posts
The White Walkers are a weapon though, the children of the forest made them and used them against their enemies. Is a gun evil because it kills people?

The whitewalkers are fairly intelligent though. They may have been created as a weapon but now they've gone haywire on their creators. I guess it's like the Terminator/SkyNet. We created them, but now they've got their own objectives.

I guess you can argue there is nothing true evil in the world, not even the white walkers. Or you can go down the Alien/Prometheus/Black Goo route and argue that we are evil and everything that follows is due to humanities corrupted nature.

I like the white walkers because they're single-minded in their pursuit of converting everyone to the undead. They're a good contrast to the living and an easy enemy to focus on. Through them you can see how dumb and futile the fighting is on Westeros, how corrupt humans can be, and what true evil looks like.
01:18pm 04/09/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4048 posts
Is a lion evil because it eats the Zebra while it's still alive? IMO in order to be evil you have to have a concept of right and wrong. Someone who knows what they are doing is wrong and does it anyway is what true evil is even if they rationalize it away in some kind of twisted logic. White walkers don't necessarily have the capacity for empathy and I especially don't think they draw any enjoyment from what they do otherwise they would play with their food a bit more.

I'm sure Hitler didn't think he was evil when he gassed a few million minorities but it doesn't change the fact that he was an evil f***.
02:11pm 04/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
792 posts
I'm sure Hitler didn't think he was evil when he gassed a few million minorities but it doesn't change the fact that he was an evil f***.
F***

Is a lion evil because it eats the Zebra while it's still alive? IMO in order to be evil you have to have a concept of right and wrong. Someone who knows what they are doing is wrong and does it anyway is what true evil is even if they rationalize it away in some kind of twisted logic. White walkers don't necessarily have the capacity for empathy and I especially don't think they draw any enjoyment from what they do otherwise they would play with their food a bit more.

You make a good point. My main argument is that all the main players in GoT aren't good or evil.
09:34pm 04/09/17 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
6604 posts
Cerci is pretty darn evil. There are certain things one needs to do to survive, but blowing up hundreds, if not thousands of people, isn't one of those things.
Not only did she blow up a church (not that I completely disagree with demolishing a church...) but the hundreds of innocents killed in it's destruction are on her hands. Not just the people inside either, but it was a huge damn explosion and countless commoners would have been caught/injured in the blast.

Despite being delivered proof of the impending apocalypse she also chose to scheme and plot with no reguard to anyone other than herself and her own reign.

That's not to say others in the series are perfect (far from it) but Cerci is most definitely evil.
09:46pm 04/09/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4049 posts
F***
That's like complaining about a Hitler reference during a WW2 discussion.

If you don't define Joffery as evil for pinning a woman to a wall with crossbow bolts for no reason other than his own pleasure then I would really like to know who actually makes the cut for you.
02:50pm 05/09/17 Permalink
shody
Brisbane, Queensland
98 posts
If you don't define Joffery as evil for pinning a woman to a wall with crossbow bolts for no reason other than his own pleasure then I would really like to know who actually makes the cut for you.


To be fair, he said living characters.
04:33pm 05/09/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1107 posts
The Bran == Night King theory is looking more and more plausible.

How would the Night King know that a dragon would show up for him to kill? Simple if he's Bran.

There's been loads of foreshadowing showing his power to affect the past with Hodor and the Tower of Joy.

In the last episode of season 7 take a look at the aerial shot of the undead walking through the fallen Wall. Look familiar? They're in the shape of the House Stark sigil, the Dire Wolf...
04:44pm 05/09/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2761 posts
I am not so sure Bran is the Night King. Could he have some link with the NK, yeah, He was marked when the old 3ER was showing him the undead army last season or something. But other than that, I am not sure. I think people are perhaps reading too much into this, even for GoT stuff.
06:41pm 05/09/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26019 posts
all the main players in GoT aren't good or evil.
Cerci murdered hundreds not to survive but to hold onto power. This makes her evil.
07:08pm 05/09/17 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
40797 posts
just finished the books again, man they are good.

makes me want the next book so bad!

08:29am 06/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
793 posts
The Bran == Night King theory is looking more and more plausible.

How would the Night King know that a dragon would show up for him to kill? Simple if he's Bran.

There's been loads of foreshadowing showing his power to affect the past with Hodor and the Tower of Joy.

In the last episode of season 7 take a look at the aerial shot of the undead walking through the fallen Wall. Look familiar? They're in the shape of the House Stark sigil, the Dire Wolf...

I'm not following. Doesn't add up in many places. Such as how can Bran be the NK? It's more likely that when he touched Bran he got a glimpse of the world, saw dragons and Danny in the world and figured that's his way out. He started plotting and waiting for the day.

Also so what there are stark wights? A few went north of the wall with Jon. There were also a few Nights Watchmen, does that mean House Mormont is behind the Night King?

That's like complaining about a Hitler reference during a WW2 discussion.

That's just dumb. It's the internet so hitler is ok to reference randomly.

If you don't define Joffery as evil for pinning a woman to a wall with crossbow bolts for no reason other than his own pleasure then I would really like to know who actually makes the cut for you.
Cerci murdered hundreds not to survive but to hold onto power. This makes her evil.
Her father ordered the killing of children to gain favor with the rebellion. Bastard Bolten tortured Theon for I think years. Arya killed some girl for the sake of appeasing the faceless god. The list just goes on and on. If everyone is murdering and raping, leading men to their deaths for some dumb idea, then who's good? If no one is really good that raises the question who is evil?

I love GoT because no one is either of those things, they portray humanity for what it is. Sometimes good, sometimes kind sometimes evil. Everyone can do horrendous things, including who we think are the "good guys". Look at Jamie, he raped his sister in front of their dead son yet he stands by his word of fighting the undead.

Ok, this is getting too philosophical. I guess I'll stop beating the dead horse on this one.
10:45am 06/09/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1108 posts
I don't mean Stark wights.
I mean take a look at the *shape* of the army of the undead in that far off aerial shot right near the end of the episode.
The army is arranged in such a way as to resemble a giant Stark wolf sigil.
12:59pm 06/09/17 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
19134 posts
The army is arranged in such a way as to resemble a giant Stark wolf sigil.


i've been staring at that aerial shot for a few minutes and i can't see stark sigil.
07:13pm 06/09/17 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
26021 posts
07:24pm 06/09/17 Permalink
Rukh
Brisbane, Queensland
1110 posts
You don't see an outline of a wolf in that photo?
09:56am 07/09/17 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
794 posts
Oh wow, yeah that's really interesting. It's a shape for sure and not accidental. From the article you got that picture from:
Or maybe Bran is just Bran and the Night King knows Bran is spying on him with ravens and is f*****g with him by making his house sigil from a bird's eye view.
That sounds hilarious and a good f*** you to Bran who is watching. I also think it isn't a wolf but a bear. We did see a wight bear.

Also what the f*** is the lord of fire? Its shown The Hound visions that have come true, also showed him where the white walkers were born/made and oddly enough actually helped the NK get through the wall.

Something is amiss with The Lord of Light.
11:03am 07/09/17 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
4050 posts
It definitely looks deliberate but it could just be the show f*****g with the conspiracy theorists knowing they would be looking out for things like that.
12:14pm 07/09/17 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2764 posts
Doesn't look like anything to me. Perhaps you can use MS paint to help us out.
07:26pm 07/09/17 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
7730 posts
http://i.imgur.com/Itd5FPr.jpg
that mspaint enough for ya?
07:42pm 07/09/17 Permalink
cnnnnnn
Other International
16 posts
08:55pm 07/09/17 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
23891 posts
I don't think it means anything, I think its just a little easter egg thrown in for s**** and giggles
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