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KostaAndreadis
Melbourne, Victoria
432 posts
Because boy-o-boy, it looks insanely good. Like you didn't know that already! And with the release of Fallout 4 just days away this launch trailer actually goes into some of the themes and story beats in the game. So yeah, some of it is definitely spoiler-ish so you may want to hold off. That's, only if you can. As it's all set to a collage of evocative vistas and footage of both male and female protagonist's walking through the wasteland, with dramatic music and narration, once you press play -- you're in for the duration.

Clocking in at under three minutes this is a great way to get in the mood for what is shaping up to be the biggest game release of 2015. Not long to go now! And yeah sure, I've said that before but, you know, it's Fallout!

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The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9227 posts
Jesus, some of those character models / animations look surprisingly bad, worse than I remember Skyrim being.

Maybe they put all the focus into the female protag for that 'knew exactly what they were doing' shot at the end though, so I can't blame them.
01:34pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Largeman
Brisbane, Queensland
9 posts
If you want photo realism, step outside and look at the sun. This argument is getting old and is just being used now as trolling (so yes, I took the bait, fanboi alert)

Pretty sure that's a T1000 at 2:18.

Hngh
01:49pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
22915 posts
If you want photo realism, step outside and look at the sun.


Nothing to do with photo-realism, s*** animations are s*** animations.

I thought the same thing too Nerf in some of the bits in that trailer, mostly when it was crowds of people running and stuff, so maybe they just didn't put as much time into the animations for random NPCs or somethig. But it reminds me of old s***** pre-Skyrim Bethesda animations where nothing really had weight to it and was all floaty and people ran like they had a stick up their arse.

Not that I guess it matters, I'll still play the s*** out of it, but I was expecting a little better.
02:27pm 06/11/15 Permalink
The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9228 posts
If you want photo realism, step outside and look at the sun. This argument is getting old and is just being used now as trolling (so yes, I took the bait, fanboi alert)

Pretty sure that's a T1000 at 2:18.

Hngh

Christ. Not having uncritical views is now trolling, according to new account with 9 posts. Seems I either poked a hornets nest of insecure fans or the PR department for this game.

My favourite game is Mount & Blade Warband, ftr, which looks like ass. It's also hella cheap and had no budget behind it, and now with their success they're making huge strides for the sequel.

In fact the more I think about it, the more I get the impression that something is clearly wrong at Bethesda HQ, with being unable to get somebody away from control of animation. Those character animations look like ass. I can think of 12 year old games which look better. I've done better in random 3d animation jobs without any education or proper history in the field. I can't think of any full price release from the last few years which looks remotely like that.
02:34pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
22917 posts
Is it actually able to be preloaded now? I haven't got my key yet, is there a way to download the preload without having a key registered? I'm sure I've done that for a game in the past, but I can't really remember how or when.
03:12pm 06/11/15 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
18797 posts
Jesus, some of those character models / animations look surprisingly bad, worse than I remember Skyrim being.


yeah it's pretty damn noticeable in the leaked footage. this almost looks last gen when you have games like the witcher to compare it to.

last edited by ravn0s at 15:58:25 06/Nov/15
03:52pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5601 posts
If you want photo realism, step outside and look at the sun. This argument is getting old and is just being used now as trolling (so yes, I took the bait, fanboi alert) Pretty sure that's a T1000 at 2:18. Hngh


The T1000 is the liquid metal Terminator, that one would be a T800 or one of its variants. Learn to fanboy.
04:32pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18037 posts

Nothing to do with photo-realism, s*** animations are s*** animations.


Bethesda really have to sort out their animation department. Seriously, it's probably one of the biggest overhanging issues of all their games.
04:48pm 06/11/15 Permalink
carson
Melbourne, Victoria
2647 posts
Christ. Not having uncritical views is now trolling, according to new account with 9 posts. Seems I either poked a hornets nest of insecure fans or the PR department for this game.


God, my f*****g friends are like this over FO4. You can't be critical of it AT ALL or they flip their s*** and start to get all uppity and try to justify everything. One friend is saying it's going to look better on PC. I highly doubt it. Bethesda have been getting away with s***** animations for far too long, and will keep doing it so long as people preorder their games.
05:22pm 06/11/15 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2228 posts
I ordered from Dungeon Crawl. I hope they send it out on monday at least, I got express post.
05:30pm 06/11/15 Permalink
The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9229 posts
This is actually way more interesting. Exactly what I said needed to be done instead of Hearthfire in Skyrim.

06:04pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2827 posts
Old graphics engine looks old and s***. Pretty disappointing really, but still, sure it'll be an awesome game and I'll play the s*** out of it. Love Fallout. Have to say the story doesn't grip me that much either though.

The fanatic ignorance of the poor graphics is pretty amusing.

Edit: I'm comparing it to F3 (it looks the same, no real advancements), and other new games like FarCry 4, Witcher 3, etc. This isn't a pessimistic view I don't think, rather a objective one, it's pretty clear the graphics engine isn't new or of the same quality as other new games (just look at the CryEngine for Pete's sake). Painting it as just overly pessimistic griping to defend the game as a whole despite it's obviously poor graphics is initself a very biased view. A thing is composed of parts, some of those parts can be critiqued whilst still appreciating the overall thing. It's really not that complicated guys, I think you're Fallout fanaticism is getting in the way of your logic and reasoning.

I am a massive Fallout fan, by the way.
06:29pm 06/11/15 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
2033 posts
Is it actually able to be preloaded now? I haven't got my key yet, is there a way to download the preload without having a key registered? I'm sure I've done that for a game in the past, but I can't really remember how or when.


Not yet, at least I can't see the preload on my steam preorder
06:31pm 06/11/15 Permalink
trillion
Gladstone, Queensland
3756 posts
if youre looking at it with pessemistic eyes and groaning that its no better in terms of gfx-fi or animation than something like Rage then what are you comparing it to?
06:43pm 06/11/15 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3810 posts
Yeah it looks like a typical pile of Bethesda ass but considering the minimum requirements announced for the latest Assassins Creed game is like 1 step below my PC I'm kinda ok with it.

That said smooth and realistic animations shouldn't really affect performance and anyone who says Bethesda isn't the absolute worst in the industry when it comes to animations is blind. Remember the dump jumps in Skyrim that made your character look like they were taking a mid air dump?
08:09pm 06/11/15 Permalink
trillion
Gladstone, Queensland
3757 posts
i dunno ive only ever played Fallout Tactics, but it looks like its had at least a few tweaks and shines since F3 in 2008

i dont think these games are really made for graphics pedants, more for people to escape into or share the hype excitement with their kids

its not like theyre trying to convince us that theyre taking us beyond the uncanny valley

08:57pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2828 posts
Imagine how much more awesome it would be if it looked as beautiful as the CryEngine, is all i'ma saying! :p
09:06pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
8349 posts
It never ceases to amaze me how a studio with as much money as Bethesda can consistently produce such visually s***** games.
10:58pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
22919 posts

its not like theyre trying to convince us that theyre taking us beyond the uncanny valley


They don't have to convince us its real, but it would be nice if they at least tried to convince us the world wasn't populated by animatronic mannequins.
11:05pm 06/11/15 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
3463 posts
This is funny to me because I've always been very critical of Bethesda games for looking like total s***, with Fallout 4 I feel like they have made an effort to address this and so I'm pretty pleased with it.

As for the animations, I didn't notice them being sub-par until you guys pointed it out, I guess I've set the bar low for Bethesda, at least in regards to visuals.
11:09pm 06/11/15 Permalink
zaraq
Adelaide, South Australia
702 posts
I also see the shortcomings in the graphics in the video at least, disappointingly i can't see how this is any different to the last Fallout game.

Still rad roaches and bottle caps ill warrant.
01:13am 07/11/15 Permalink
Chang
Perth, Western Australia
36 posts
I've just spent the last 200 hours being spoiled by the Witcher 3 and its expansion - it's going to taste really sour stepping down to these character animations.

The environments look spectacular, no complaints there. Just same old-Bethesda characters. *sigh*
02:53am 07/11/15 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
22921 posts
Not sure if it means preload is live, but greenman gaming just emailed me my fallout key, so I guess if its not live it must be soon.
01:49pm 07/11/15 Permalink
deadlyf
Queensland
3811 posts
Everyone stare disapprovingly at the preorderer.
02:01pm 07/11/15 Permalink
Enska
Sydney, New South Wales
2758 posts
my mate got his key from gmg too khel, he's preloaded and ready to go.
09:18pm 07/11/15 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6005 posts
Just finished my Steam pre load. I cant wait. Gotta go to EB tomorrow night to grab my sons Pip Boy edition and another hard copy, then straight home to play Fallout 4. If you are at EB tomorrow night we will be the - old fart with two teenagers wearing the collectors' edition Fallout Four T-shirts I got sent over from Bethesda! Come say hi!

*remember....it's all about the gameplay.
12:40pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5602 posts
Just finished my Steam pre load. I cant wait. Gotta go to EB tomorrow night to grab my sons Pip Boy edition and another hard copy, then straight home to play Fallout 4. If you are at EB tomorrow night we will be the - old fart with two teenagers wearing the collectors' edition Fallout Four T-shirts I got sent over from Bethesda! Come say hi!


You are aware there is more than one EB in Brisbane don't you?
02:32pm 08/11/15 Permalink
nings
Gold Coast, Queensland
329 posts
JB had it $59, but no stock :(
04:12pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Imperial
Brisbane, Queensland
512 posts
Pre-ordered from Ozgameshop for $60 last week. Anyone else, and have you received your key yet?
04:15pm 08/11/15 Permalink
nings
Gold Coast, Queensland
330 posts
Everyone stare disapprovingly at the preorderer.
04:17pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Khel
Brisbane, Queensland
22926 posts
I rarely preorder anymore, but some games I know I'm going to get, irrespective of reviews or launch day bugs or whatever; fallout 4 is one of those. So when gmg did a 25% off voucher for it I figured, may as well get it cheaper since I'm going to get it anyway,then I can have it preloaded and ready to play when it comes out.
04:59pm 08/11/15 Permalink
The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9233 posts
That was the logic I used for Thief 4, was cheaper pre-release before Australian value got added, and there was a 25% discount or something, and Thief is my favourite series so even a meh addition I'd probably get.

Turned out better than expected once I got past the awful first few levels. Though I was apparently part of only 1% of players who did it with the xray vision etc disabled from the start for extra points or whatever, which probably made it way better due to having to actually think. Downside was that you had to do like 3 missions to afford a rope arrow on hard and they weren't recyclable.
08:06pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Viper119
Other International
2829 posts
Are you saying Thief 4 actually gets decent? I didn't get past the first or second level, it was so s***. I love Thief though, maybe I should persevere. Are there any mods or patches fixing some of the more annoying bits? I remember searching containers was a ball ache.
10:41pm 08/11/15 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
18801 posts
all i remember about thief 4 is the asylum level and the s***** ending.
11:05pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6006 posts
Tanaka Khan..Yeh thanks for the heads up. I thought I mentioned it was Indro. Where would we be without vigilante forum monitors like you hey?
11:45pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5603 posts
Tanaka Khan..Yeh thanks for the heads up. I thought I mentioned it was Indro. Where would we be without vigilante forum monitors like you hey?


It's not like I have anything better to do...
I'll be at the Underwood EB picking up my copy. The stupid thing is they want us there between 10pm and 11:30pm to confirm the orders then we get them after midnight.
11:57pm 08/11/15 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6007 posts
Yep that's what Indro told me as well. Pay the balance on the games between 10pm and midnight, they give you a number and then at midnight they call out the numbers and you get your stuff. Its irritating because I have to go up there to get the Pip Boy for my son and all the while I am there the game will be sitting on my computer pre-loaded waiting for me to get home and click play! arrghh the irony.

Whats even more worrying is that they didn't seem to have a plan to serve pre orders first or separate them from punters who are turning u p to buy the game cold..which I do think is a bit disorganised. Surely they could have a pre orders line and a first in first served retail purchase line?? I pre ordered this s*** months ago and I want to go first dammit!
12:05am 09/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5604 posts
Part of me is thinking just f*** it and rock up 9am Tuesday morning and get it, When I start playing I don't want to have to go to bed after an hour or two.
02:20am 09/11/15 Permalink
Psycho
Brisbane, Queensland
6008 posts
"Part of me is thinking just f*** it and rock up 9am Tuesday morning and get it, When I start playing I don't want to have to go to bed after an hour or two."

That's what my eldest boy is saying he will do, he is still coming to get his Pip Boy, but just heading home for a sleep, then serious gaming.

Ah the joys of being retired, got all day to play, wife's away in Perth for three days, bar fridge is full, sleep when I want, game when I want...:

Whats really pissing me off is that I just read that due to time difference the digital version I have on Steam may be available to play around 9-10pm! EST...and I'm going to be at bloody Indro! grrrr That's an unconfirmed report though but its being bandied about as accurate.
03:00am 09/11/15 Permalink
The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9234 posts
Are you saying Thief 4 actually gets decent? I didn't get past the first or second level, it was so s***. I love Thief though, maybe I should persevere. Are there any mods or patches fixing some of the more annoying bits? I remember searching containers was a ball ache.

If played on the hardest setting, as a big fan of the originals who will get the extraordinarily vague hints about how this one ties in (particularly towards the end), then there's some things enjoyable about it, far from perfect though (the jimmying windows mechanic has to be the worst thing, especially since you never know if it's going to send you into a new loading zone or not). The early levels have a few weird points of no return, so it's helpful to save a lot.

One of the main benefits were the story explanations for anybody who is a long time fans of the old ones. There's a reason that they refused to call it a reboot in the pre-release interviews, yet the character has a different voice and the city looks different. They were way too subtle about it to actually benefit from what they did.
03:08am 09/11/15 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2230 posts
I just hope my copy arrives tomorrow. Apparently, even on the disc, it only has 5gb of the install on it.....why the hell are they doing that? save money? Would be nice if publishers put games on blu ray discs.
11:20am 09/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5605 posts
EB Underwood are opening at 8am tomorrow morning instead of 9am, seriously thinking of just getting it tomorrow
11:22am 09/11/15 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18042 posts

One of the main benefits were the story explanations for anybody who is a long time fans of the old ones.


I'm still salty Van Buren never came to be...
02:36pm 09/11/15 Permalink
notgreazy
Other International
343 posts

Christ. Not having uncritical views is now trolling, according to new account with 9 posts. Seems I either poked a hornets nest of insecure fans or the PR department for this game.

so what if the new kid has 9 posts?

P.S I agree with the rest of your post.
02:45pm 09/11/15 Permalink
Eorl
AusGamers Editor
Brisbane, Queensland
14757 posts
03:34pm 09/11/15 Permalink
The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9235 posts
so what if the new kid has 9 posts?

Rushing to passionately defend a newly released game with a new account is on the slightly suss side. Particularly in response to such obvious flaws.
03:48pm 09/11/15 Permalink
Mordecai
Victoria
1702 posts
I just hope my copy arrives tomorrow. Apparently, even on the disc, it only has 5gb of the install on it.....why the hell are they doing that? save money? Would be nice if publishers put games on blu ray discs.


At least they aren't just putting a code in the box like metal gear solid did.
05:06pm 09/11/15 Permalink
nings
Gold Coast, Queensland
332 posts
Ahh they f***en what, I was going to buy a physical copy to avoid a 30 hour down load (my internet sux balls), I'd prefer five discs ala Max Payne 3.
05:24pm 09/11/15 Permalink
Nmag
Sydney, New South Wales
615 posts
Yeah I'd prefer the disks to D/L. 5 gb, of 30 gb? The box may as well just be a code.
08:13pm 09/11/15 Permalink
trillion
Gladstone, Queensland
3758 posts
the Steam preload is only 24Gb

still not so great on anything less than a decent data internet connection
08:31pm 09/11/15 Permalink
Imperial
Brisbane, Queensland
514 posts
Lol Eorl... just....
08:32pm 09/11/15 Permalink
Tanaka Khan
Brisbane, Queensland
5606 posts
Yea was disappointed having to download 24 gigs after the discs
04:27am 10/11/15 Permalink
Imperial
Brisbane, Queensland
515 posts
Hmm if the discs are 5g then another 24g through steam, why is my non-hardcopy digital steam download only 24g not 29g?
09:47am 10/11/15 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
18045 posts
On Disc DLC of course... lolz
10:25am 10/11/15 Permalink
BladeRunner
Queensland
2231 posts
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The Nerfatar
Brisbane, Queensland
9241 posts
That video was way more entertaining than anything Bethesda has shown, almost want to get it now to see the rest of the story.
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