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There's Something About Einstein...
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3915 posts
This is a serious post, it is not a joke. Please to be directing flames and abuse at irc.enterthegame.com #Melrose. Keep this thread clean and constructive and i'll attempt to answer as many mature questions as I can.

I think the best way to start this post is just coming out with it. I'm becoming a girl.

As is the case with the majority of others in my position, it all began as long as i can remember. I've always thought i was a girl, and in due course, i suffered great personal torment and suffering when puberty rolled around and confirmed my worst fears. School wasn't terribly kind either. Not knowing what to say or how to act, i got the gay label and couldn't shake it off. Ridicule constantly followed me around so none of the girls would talk to me, and that was the worst thing to grow up with, no other girls to talk to. So i fell in with the less manly, more open minded crowd at school, and slowly learned how to "pretend" to be just another boy.

How do i view this? It's a birth defect. I got the wrong chromosomes at the start and now i'm paying for it. I have all the genetic code and information to be the way i'm supposed to be, however those chromosomes and the following hormones dictate the rules. This is why i can go onto Hormone Replacement Therapy and reverse the process. Of course I can't reverse the damage testosterone has already done to my body, but a bit of care and a course of female hormones will smooth off the rough edges and actually leave a socially passable image.

You've all seen Miriam? She's at the top end of the spectrum for transition. Of course there's worse by-products but it's nothing like you may or may not be thinking. The gravelly voice, the wig, the bad stubble, the manly features... all of these things you will find on TransVESTITES, not Transsexuals. Most people who go through with this process will be barely recognisable from before, unless they're built like Arnie and really shouldn't be doing this in the first place. I already have girly features and somewhat of a figure, so the end result won't actually be too scary.

Some minor facial surgery may be in order at some point, but it's not mandatory at the moment. It'll most likely be a nosejob and a laser resurfacing of my face to kill the acne scars. Makeup covers those anyway. As per doctor's orders i've been out in girly clothing and playing the part, but otherwise crossdressing isn't my thing. Chemical help first, then living as a girl. I'm not delusional or psycho, i'm simply correcting something that went wrong so long ago.



Gender Dysphoria is a recognised medical "condition" in about 1/20th of the population, some people make the journey to fix what went wrong, others are usually driven to suicide by their daily conflicting thoughts. Strangely enough i've been recently diagnosed with this Gender Identity Disorder after seeing the appropriate specialists about it.

So to keep the length down for the ADHD sufferers, i'll finish it up here. I've been going through the government health system for the last 6 months, and have seen numerous specialists to confirm what i'm doing is the right thing. I've been on Testosterone Blockers for 3 months, and in another month i'll have my Oestrogen. 12 Months from January you can expect to see a picture of the final result for those interested.

For those that are really interested, forget it, i don't like boys. (yes i've had extra problems with the psych because i'm not gay)
09:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
system
Internet
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09:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dangles
Queensland
2951 posts
umm yeah ok....
09:51pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
2465 posts
O...K.....
09:52pm 02/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3954 posts

WHAT

09:55pm 02/12/04 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
1731 posts
so this is why you like fat chicks??
09:57pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Trin
Brisbane, Queensland
2006 posts
You're a lesbian?
09:58pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3916 posts
I am a lesbian

Like i said, i'd have had my pills a month ago if i had have been gay, so now they're making me wait another month as a precautionary.

Otherwise i'm perfect case scenario
09:59pm 02/12/04 Permalink
scooby
Brisbane, Queensland
2201 posts
this spot for rent
epic thread
10:01pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7550 posts
prime real estate on first page of an all-time epic thread.

I'm willing to sell to the highest bidder.

kthnx

last edited by spidz at 22:35:36 02/Dec/04
10:01pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3917 posts
No spidz you bogan football player, it's me
10:03pm 02/12/04 Permalink
bk
Brisbane, Queensland
753 posts
page 1 reserve
10:04pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7551 posts
i'm determined not to fall for this trick, but its just so believeable.

count me out of laser skirmish.
10:05pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Kelka
Brisbane, Queensland
210 posts
Did you happen to venture into queen st in the city in your new girly clothes recently?
10:06pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
423 posts
if bean wants to hookup, his msn is einstein4younow@hotmail.com

last edited by Charles Hode at 22:07:07 02/Dec/04
10:06pm 02/12/04 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
1673 posts
you must have some sorta, small penis or something then..
10:06pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
7080 posts
10:07pm 02/12/04 Permalink
reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
3442 posts
Holster
10:07pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
138 posts
Sorry to say this Einy, but ... I have seen and worked with you and it would take a veritable f*****' TRUCKLOAD of alcohol to make you look like a woman.

But what the hey. Post a piccy of ya tits anyway dude :)
10:08pm 02/12/04 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
1949 posts
Thought I should pop in and say hi.
10:09pm 02/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3955 posts
Einey's not gay, he just likes fat chicks with strap-ons.

last edited by StreX at 22:10:12 02/Dec/04
10:09pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3918 posts
hi lonewolf

you'd be surprised what 3 months of T blocker pills will do for ya

body naturally produces it's own girly hormones in small quantities, so it's already looking much nicer =P
10:10pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3919 posts
Did you happen to venture into queen st in the city in your new girly clothes recently?


Bout 3-4pm halloween? Yep

I completely lost my s*** afterwards too, can't believe i did that.

Aparrently i had a clone walking around the same day, same place, wearing the same thing too. I s*** you not, friend at work was telling me about him.
10:11pm 02/12/04 Permalink
applor
Brisbane, Queensland
2180 posts
so are you gonna get your wang spliced?
can't call yourself a lesbian while you have a wang...
10:12pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
139 posts
Umm, dude. You could munch your way through the ENTIRE pill factory, and STILL pop out the other side looking like Einstein ...

LOL, this is a joke, yes?

10:13pm 02/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3533 posts
HAHAHA I don't know whether to laugh or vommit.

And dude, if this isn't a joke, then go back to the doctors cause you are also intellectually challenged for posting this s*** here. HAHA!

www.transgendermatchmakers.com.au
10:13pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
424 posts
maybe he/she just doesnt give a f*** about people like you stick.

really, it's his/her life and it looks like and they've learnt to deal with it so really why should anyone of us care? the people who do probably have something to hide anyway.
10:15pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7552 posts
the very fact this was posted here is the ONLY thing that makes me find it difficult to believe.
10:15pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3920 posts
Reasons for posting here, that should have been stated before is simply: Chinese whispers, gossip and rumor

I don't want some vile f***ed up version of the events floating around, i'd rather the story came from my mouth.

I'm not about to disappear from public view, and i'm well aware of the consequences of my actions...

The reality is, i do this, or i die.
10:16pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
7081 posts
I wonder if your feelings towards guys/girls will change by the end of it, as you're probably a bit obsessed with the whole girly thing atm. This will be interesting.
10:17pm 02/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3534 posts
really, it's his/her life and it looks like and they've learnt to deal with it so really why should anyone of us care?


Agreed.
10:18pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Arlf
Brisbane, Queensland
307 posts
ANY GIRL GOING TO QGL????
10:19pm 02/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1047 posts
This explains why you keep borrowing my mini-skirts.

Bagsies dating you when the surgery's done!
10:20pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
140 posts
ANY GIRL GOING TO QGL????


And the answer is still no :)
10:20pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7553 posts
i did read in the paper that castration is a common cure for pedophelia, but i think you're taking things too far einy.
10:20pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3921 posts
pffft, my drivers license will say otherwise lonewolf =P
10:21pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
141 posts
This explains why you keep borrowing my mini-skirts.


CHRIST! What's scarier? Einy as a chick or you in a mini ....
10:21pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Pharcyde
Kilos
Brisbane, Queensland
3938 posts
F*** me.

Posting in an epic thread.

Hi Einstein.
10:23pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7554 posts
I have confirmation that this ISN'T a prank.

for further details see below....










NOT WORK SAFE




or dinner table safe.....



http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/thomson81/qgl humour/alcamahol.jpg

Edit: uploaded pic elsewhere after it was taken down.


last edited by spidz at 22:44:29 02/Dec/04
10:26pm 02/12/04 Permalink
sacred
Sydney, New South Wales
1214 posts
I don't want some vile f***ed up version of the events floating around, i'd rather the story came from my mouth.
I'd like to hear a 'f***ed up' version of this.

last edited by sacred at 22:27:05 02/Dec/04
10:26pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Mandy
Brisbane, Queensland
219 posts
interesting dress!
10:27pm 02/12/04 Permalink
JigZie
Brisbane, Queensland
1446 posts
I'm kinda scared and confused.


WHAT THE F*** IS GOING ON.
10:30pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7556 posts

sif ban me from #melrose for confirming the story
10:30pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Eds
Brisbane, Queensland
6872 posts
Great, another goth
10:30pm 02/12/04 Permalink
mission
Brisbane, Queensland
1950 posts
I think we should all pitch in to buy him her this after the op. Bugger sitting down.

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/mission/spout.JPG
10:30pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
143 posts
I should have shaved my head and gone dressed as Uncle Fester :)
10:31pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3922 posts
keep it clean guys, slightly derailing here =P
10:32pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dynamite
Brisbane, Queensland
885 posts
Please no more pictures!
10:32pm 02/12/04 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
8100 posts

ANY GIRL GOING TO QGL????


That is GOLD!

Beyond that.... dude, wtf?
10:38pm 02/12/04 Permalink
nat
1305 posts
pics or lying
10:42pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dynamite
Brisbane, Queensland
886 posts
Nooooo
10:44pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2934 posts
Hey at least its einstein doing this, if it was Kaygen, all the hormone blockers and other medication would be up on sold within a fortnight

10:44pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3923 posts
you'll get pics eventually

when everything's done, to minimise the scare factor
10:44pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7557 posts
pics or lying
/me points at post #37
10:46pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
122 posts
Einstein, you say your a lesbian, but i wonder, is this only because of the influence of the other guys during school and what not?
10:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10801 posts
hold me
im scared
10:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
skel
Gold Coast, Queensland
24 posts
so ahh dude... mmmm... k. mate im 22 i have 2 beautiful kids a boy and gurl... this is really a bit of a moral quandery... not even made for springer.. im all for doing as one pleases and stuff but im really baffled at this... mate spend the money on a trip around the world get away for a while... new head maybe.. but if u are serious really think of what u will not look like but feel like u have taken away what ur parents gave u so u have crushed them too i reallly hope u get the help u need... ive even heard a lesso say tha wang is a good thang :/.... i dont no if u are serious or not :/

last edited by skel at 22:48:47 02/Dec/04
10:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Disso
Brisbane, Queensland
416 posts
hi, i dont know you, but have one question....have you always thought you were going to do this, when you were getting bullied and things like that, like was it a fairly easy path to take ?
10:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
nat
1307 posts
so now the pic decides to load..

lol woot
10:49pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Nakor
Brisbane, Queensland
2646 posts
this thread really needs a

"welcome to the OCAU b****!"
10:53pm 02/12/04 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
8102 posts

hi, i dont know you


I would say at this point that nobody here has really known him....
10:53pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Protius
Brisbane, Queensland
2210 posts
I know he has an extremely loud laugh, like really really really loud.
10:57pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2935 posts
holy f*** this isnt a joke
I saw the pic

afk crying
10:59pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Dopefish
Brisbane, Queensland
212 posts
have fun.

11:00pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3924 posts
anarot gets it in one

this is something that i've always had nagging at the back of my mind, even now i have relatives telling stories about how i wanted to be a girl when i was little

this is s*** that i can't even remember, let alone the stuff i COULD remember to tell the psychs

this is something that has to happen, it's not a fetish, it's not something i woke up one morning and decided to do

the only reason it's taken me this long is because i grew up in the country, then a majority of the time after school in caboolture....

HARDLY places of information

so i found out the freak i am and i'm fixing it, simple =P
11:02pm 02/12/04 Permalink
jmr
Brisbane, Queensland
3736 posts
enstien teh b0dy h4x!

dude no... why ?

11:02pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3925 posts
it's really quite simple

i'm not changing who i am, just what i look like, and then giving me the ability to do and say what i want without second guessing myself all the damn time and feeling so damn uncomfortable around people
11:06pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
123 posts
how long does it take for you to be finished with the whole thing ?
11:07pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
9871 posts
You're a brave man Einy to post something like this on QGL unless you're bulls***ting.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you do. Should be interesting seeing the end result.

8-)
11:08pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
7083 posts
11:08pm 02/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3535 posts
HAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHA I just thew up in my mouth a little... hahaha
11:09pm 02/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3734 posts
F*****g ember would make me want to cut off my d*** aswell.

That said at least you wont be having children now! Society thanks you!
11:11pm 02/12/04 Permalink
myWhiteWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
939 posts
how is being a male a freek?

its all in your mind.. seriously.. our minds are blank when we are born, the nerves connect to eachother and we "learn", this "learning" gives us conciousness. perhaps learnt something that you shouldn't. but in the end, its your mind, you can fix it, or you can "fix" your body.

also. i use to be called gay at school for random reasons etc. and i grew up with my mother and my sister so i was probably fairly femine. (hormones fixed that though :) ). but the fact that you like chicks indicates that there isn't actualy anything phisicaly wrong with you.

say hello to bad life choice.

that is all.
11:12pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3926 posts
how long does it take for you to be finished with the whole thing ?


2 weeks - psychological changes
4 weeks - complete nuke of pimples and acne
3 months - unable to hide tits any more
8 months - plausible to go out as a girl
12-18 months - smoothes and polishes everything off properly
3 years - eligible for SRS (the chop)
11:14pm 02/12/04 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
8103 posts

phisicaly


I wouldn't take advice from anyone who spells physically like that... and dont' give me none of that 'typo' bulls***, it was one of the most important words in your post.

This certainly is an eye opener of a thread.... I guess the phrase "too much information" comes to mind more than anything. At least this is far more interesting than just about anything else thats been on QGL for a while. In some ways I guess its akin to Acetame's muscle gaining thread - both are about people changing their image... :P

last edited by AnaRoT at 23:18:14 02/Dec/04
11:15pm 02/12/04 Permalink
erol
Brisbane, Queensland
197 posts
wow! this forum has really gone down hill!!
11:17pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Grosby
Brisbane, Queensland
2687 posts
Nice Rack
& Epic Thread Post (and I posted in the LJ Mummy Killer thread so ++ To me!)
& As much as I want to laugh at you, I've read far too many stories on this to understand.. well not understand at all, but to have a basic grip (no pun) on your situation.. and really.. good on ya! I'm a firm believer in that people know what and who they are, I've always known who I am and if I thought any different I'd change myself to be who I am.
I've done it with my name (not officially but..) I've done it with my style and I've done it with other aspects of me.

So good onya Einy! At least this wasn't those "They thought my small d*** was an enlarged clit at birth so they chopped it".. it's happened.)

:)
11:20pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4697 posts
Einy, you're going to have to change your sig dude.

Anyone else out ther ready to own up to being a sheila?

:)

11:21pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
969 posts
say hello to bad life choice.


Yes Whitewolf you have every right to judge someone elses choice in life because your view is ALWAYS right.

Get over it.....he is deciding this because its something he wants....I know of another guy (who should by now be a girl) do the same thing.....and he was much happier afterwards. Much more comfortable with who s/he was.
11:22pm 02/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9374 posts
and to think I was hanging out with my girlfriend while this thread was starting...
11:26pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3927 posts
Uh hello? I f*****g WISH i had a choice with my life

This is far more serious than any of you can comprehend, i'm not getting into the dark stupid s*** because it's basically attention whoring like any LJ emo

I'm doing this because i have to, and i've never felt better about myself in my life.

I don't need anyone's approval, i'm the only person who matters =)

Thanks for all of your input, and remember it's pretty much just an image change, not the core person.

(yes psycho i'll change my name and sig in a couple weeks when the s*** dies down)
11:28pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
1906 posts
So.. uhh.. einstein.. I was gonna give you s*** for this but hey.. you're never gonna be able to have sex again.. do you REALLY want that?
11:28pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2835 posts
hold me
im scared
You don't have to tell me twice. *grabs spook in hug of fear*

Also Einstein you say that you're straight... or gay... or whatever, is this just an excuse to fondle your own tits?
11:30pm 02/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
144 posts
First a toasted cheese sandwich resembling The Virgin Mary.

Then a Nutri Grain that looked like E.T.

Next weird thing to go on ebay in a few years time?

"For Sale : One penis. Low miles, suit restoration or rebuild."

11:31pm 02/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8203 posts
Just read the thread.

Wow.
11:33pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Snakeman
Germany
174 posts
I thought "THE CHOP" is the one most important thing they would advise you not to do. Not being able to cum would send you insane wouldn't it ???
11:34pm 02/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3956 posts
You are going to be one hideous b****. Seriously. When you go to the female toilets you are going to get screamed at and accused of putting on a drag outfit so you can take muff pics with your camera phone.

also, does this mean power got smashed by a girl? hah
11:35pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Grosby
Brisbane, Queensland
2688 posts
no no, no defensives It is a choice. Everything n life is a choice. It's a choice to change your physical to match your mental/emotional.. :P

*shrug*
11:36pm 02/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2748 posts
hahahah strex you're a champ buddy!
11:37pm 02/12/04 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
10792 posts
I thought "THE CHOP" is the one most important thing they would advise you not to do. Not being able to cum would send you insane wouldn't it ???
It would devoide you of those desires I would think
11:38pm 02/12/04 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
8 posts
what the f***.
11:38pm 02/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3735 posts
Listen to scuzzy, poor kid was born without a package
11:39pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2837 posts
You are going to be one hideous b****.
It's ok, he's a dyke. They're all f*****g ugly.
11:39pm 02/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7211 posts
there's 2 people I blame for this.
first is the person who created the eingirl picture, second is myself for putting it on a manly looking chick's body creating keinstein and giving him ideas. :p
11:43pm 02/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9375 posts
are you gonna go the lunch-pack, meat and potatoes, or a cut-lunch?
11:44pm 02/12/04 Permalink
scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
10793 posts
Listen to scuzzy, poor kid was born without a package
I am masturbating furiously to make up for lost time!
11:46pm 02/12/04 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
7084 posts
haha taco (this explains everything http://auscube.ausgamers.com/icon_ninja.gif
last edited by dais at 23:47:02 02/Dec/04
11:46pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3928 posts
So.. uhh.. einstein.. I was gonna give you s*** for this but hey.. you're never gonna be able to have sex again.. do you REALLY want that?


I gave up dating about 20 months ago, and still going fine.

I've had sex a few times since then but no, it wont bother me if i never have sex again. Mind you i'll be fully capable...

I don't even have the libido anymore thanks to the T blockers i've been on for the last 3 months.
11:46pm 02/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3736 posts

Look on the bright side everyone, at least he won't pee on the seat anymore, now that he gets to sit down to pee!
11:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1923 posts
Best QGL Thread EVER!
11:47pm 02/12/04 Permalink
EniGma
Brisbane, Queensland
4244 posts
conflicted feelings eh?
11:48pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7559 posts
4 weeks - complete nuke of pimples and acne
weird, I always thought chicks got pipmples too.

11:48pm 02/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9376 posts
I met einstein at a lan once. I had no idea he was a girl.
11:48pm 02/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3737 posts
haha taco (this explains everything
I don't know if it explains everything, it explains the dolls though http://www.ausforums.com/images/icon11.gif
11:49pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7560 posts
$10 on got_bean to go next.
11:52pm 02/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1925 posts
look at his hair.. hes already gone
11:53pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3929 posts
weird, I always thought chicks got pipmples too.


they do, the ones with really poor hygiene, or, a testosterone imbalance

since i'm on blockers, and just pure oestrogen and other stuff, i wont have to worry about pimples unless i'm a dirty dirty ho =P
11:54pm 02/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5075 posts
Einy says: SURPRISE C***F***!
11:55pm 02/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3957 posts
This is one of those threads on QGL we will be reminiscing about in our golden years (when Duke Nukem Forever goes gold).

I didnt know I had the ability to feel nauseous, dirty, disgusted, horrified, and downright angry at humanity all at once.

I am so happy to be a part of it all.
11:55pm 02/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3738 posts
I'm sorry loki, you've now been dethroned as drama queen of the forums
11:55pm 02/12/04 Permalink
EniGma
Brisbane, Queensland
4245 posts
check your pants.
11:57pm 02/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1926 posts
Got your new name picked out yet einstein?
11:58pm 02/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2749 posts
stex i love you man!

i'm coming out also!
11:58pm 02/12/04 Permalink
caw
Brisbane, Queensland
1790 posts
is it the frank or the beans son?

I think its both
11:59pm 02/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7561 posts
indeed strexual, and you also have prime realestate on page 1. Jolly good show.

this has overtaken the thread about human eye only seeing 60 fps as my all-time favourite.
11:59pm 02/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3958 posts
dont hijack the thread suhaib, its einey's turn to shine like the pretty little star that he is.
12:00am 03/12/04 Permalink
Rommel
Brisbane, Queensland
3136 posts
Going for the manatee look as well?
12:01am 03/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3739 posts
dont hijack the thread suhaib, its einey's turn to shine like the pretty little star that he is.
I just cut off your penis and carved a vagina out of your pelvis
12:01am 03/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2750 posts
hahaha
12:02am 03/12/04 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
1908 posts
I gave up dating about 20 months ago, and still going fine.

I've had sex a few times since then but no, it wont bother me if i never have sex again. Mind you i'll be fully capable...

I don't even have the libido anymore thanks to the T blockers i've been on for the last 3 months.


So... you can have sex? and feel it?
12:03am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7562 posts
like i said tacoo, they don't cut the penis off, they carve it down and fashion it into a clitoris.

it's a wholesome process, for all the family to enjoy.

.
12:04am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3930 posts
suhaib will get his turn to shine when he suicide bombs the gender clinic for scarring him for life

=)
12:06am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5076 posts
Needs further confirmation, this forum is too easy to make up BS and have the people on it believe it.

The pic posted, it was halloween, could have been a dress-up party or whatever, could have been 'dared/paid' by mates to go in drag etc. etc.
12:06am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1927 posts
Thread Hijack

11:00pm: car crash just outside my house wooohhh
12:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7563 posts
he'll send you his c*** in the mail.
12:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2751 posts
i'll suicide you , you f*****g homo! get rid of people like you! maybe i should go into the wickam and detonate a bomb there or something! just tell me what night you're out! i'll come bash the s*** out of you!
12:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3931 posts
So... you can have sex? and feel it?


yep, head of the penis is turned into a clitoris, the hormones rewire a lot of nerve endings in your body and you end up having a real chicks orgasm

but do we really have to talk about sex =/
12:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3959 posts
126 posts in 2 hrs. einsteins setting new records as well as growing a set of tits!

Well done everybody 8-)
12:09am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5077 posts
This forum has lost intelligence, I repeat, we have no intelligence.

Gotta stop with the quotes already..

Also, sif VSFT, I'll regain it one way or another with some other BS stories =)
12:09am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1929 posts
can u have babies?
12:10am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7564 posts
but do we really have to talk about sex =/
i think this thread has pretty much broken new boundaries on what's discussed around here.

all we need now is a post from that zorro guy.
12:11am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1930 posts
ohh the ambos are here
12:12am 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3960 posts
can u have babies?
No but he looks like he could be the mother of a bucket of smashed crabs.
12:12am 03/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3741 posts
lol
12:13am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4698 posts
Couple of questions?

Did ANY of the doctors/psych people try to talk you out of this course of action?

Also, how does something like this go down with your employer? As we know women are generally paid less in the workforce so will you being taking a pay 'cut' as well as the other 'cuts'?
12:14am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1931 posts
strex is pulling out the funnies
12:14am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4699 posts
I want to be a lumberjack.

:(
12:15am 03/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2838 posts
Mummy, other mummy, where do babies come from?
12:15am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3932 posts
Strex i promise you get a free grope

I'll even wear a hooters top if it makes you feel better
12:15am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1932 posts
I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK!
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavatory.

last edited by ravn0s at 00:17:44 03/Dec/04
12:16am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5078 posts
the hormones rewire a lot of nerve endings in your body and you end up having a real chicks orgasm
Since when do hormones re-wire nerve endings?

If we could 're-wire' nerves so easily, then spinal victims would have no problem getting feeling again, as of yet, we haven't figured it out.

They're working on re-attaching nodes (I think that's right), which means we'll be seeing robotic limbs that function as good as a real limb, but that's probably a long way off too.

Hormones will not be able to turn your finger into feeling like the head of your penis for example.
12:16am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3933 posts
I'll discuss it with my employer in due course, though he would suspect something already

He's cool, and being female i wouldn't take a cut, i'm paid the same rate as all the other people in my position.
12:17am 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4257 posts
They had pics of a "THE CHOP" op on OT... the first one pretty much made you almost vomit, but it was slightly intriguing so for some stupid reason you continue to click and cringe harder at each pic...

Just thinking about it make me feel kinda nauseous... :S
12:18am 03/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7213 posts
pfft you pansy, I actually watched a video of it being done. Didn't feel a thing :)
12:19am 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4258 posts
too much goatse and tubgirl exposure for you :)
12:19am 03/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2752 posts
being female i wouldn't take a cut, i'm paid the same rate as all the other people in my position.
dude you got f*****g balls hanging off you... you're a guy.. you will always be a guy... you're just f***ed up in the head.. give me your home address i'll come around and burn you inside of it


last edited by Suhaib at 00:22:05 03/Dec/04
12:20am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1933 posts
i just gotta keep posting

last edited by ravn0s at 00:21:09 03/Dec/04
12:20am 03/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2839 posts
pfft you pansy, I actually watched a video of it being done. Didn't feel a thing :)
That's because you couldn't relate.
12:20am 03/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
425 posts
dude you got f*****g balls hanging off you... you're a guy.. you will always be a guy... you're just f***ed up in the head.. give me your home address i'll come around and help you get through this rough time.


Suhaib wants to hook up ^^^^
12:24am 03/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3538 posts
lmao

This should be a promoted forum news item.
12:24am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1935 posts
^^ and stickied
12:25am 03/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7214 posts
^^ perhaps but it takes a sick sick video to disturb me. I saw some beheadding thing with tonnes of blood once, I just set it to loop & continued eating my dinner. makings of a psychopath right here folks. beware :)

I would say seeing it in real life would probably horrify me though.
12:26am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4700 posts
I cut down trees, I skip and jump,
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing,
And hang around in bars.

Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around.... In bars???????

CHORUS

I chop down trees, I wear high heels,
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa.
12:27am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4701 posts
you're just f***ed up in the head.. give me your home address i'll come around and burn you inside of it


Suhaib, now you're just getting in touch with your femine side mate.

:)
12:29am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1936 posts
12:30am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4702 posts
For those interested in the condition. Gender Identity Disorder
12:32am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lynx
Brisbane, Queensland
40 posts
I wouldn't mind reading a psychological report on the changes that the difference in hormones brings upon the mind.
Would you start to see the world in a different light, like from a chicks perspective?
Would you lose interest in chicks? Lose interest and not pay attention when a hot girl walks past.
Would the quality of your vision increase as your driving skills decrease?
Would you start to b**** and nag, instead of lie on the couch and sleep?
How would you approch common situations?

last edited by Lynx at 00:34:55 03/Dec/04
12:33am 03/12/04 Permalink
BigZub
Brisbane, Queensland
2753 posts
that sounded gay hey :(

i'm never coming back to this thread.
12:34am 03/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1529 posts
If you get it lopped off, can I have it? I've just prepared a jar of formaldehyde - does anyone have suggestions for a label?
12:35am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5079 posts
You are born with a blank slate, your environment, interactions, EVERYTHING from the word go to where you are now influences how your brain develops and constructs itself (including hormones which effect how you act which in turn effects actions and reactions of your surroundings)...

Basically, every action has a reaction and every reaction has a subsequent action.
Your brain constructs itself and interacts within itself, bringing consciousness and 'decisions' (or are they really decisions since your actions/decisions are already pre-determined by the structure of your brain)..
How you plan on changing from being brought up as a male to switching to a female I'm not sure.
The problem is, you're brain isn't really fully developed until 25+, at this stage emotions, thoughts and personality become alot more stable, after that, it's going to be hard going to 're-wire' your subconscious thought process...

If that makes any sense...
If not, think of it this way, your brain grows just like every other part of your body, and how it grows is determined by your everyday interactions (As a foundation: genetics and some hormonal), once it matures, it isn't going to change much in a hurry.

Think of it like an electronic circuit in a remote control, you can't wire it up to say forwards is forwards, then suddenly want forwards to be backwards without taking it apart and reconstructing it.

I dunno how the hell hormones would change your -thought process-, it may change how you -feel- about certain situations (due to hormonal changes), but beh... wahtever dude, I can only see the psychological factor in how this works...

You're male, and think you want to be female (or want to be - whatever), causes you psychologically to be unhappy, you transgender and now you -think- you're happy because psychologically you've gotten what you thought you wanted.
Kind of akin to 'convincing' yourself of something, if you tell yourself something often enough, you'll start to believe it.

[edit] I really am just throwing up ideas, cause fuxxed if I know how this all works properly, I'm no brain surgeon :P

last edited by Loki at 00:40:43 03/Dec/04
12:36am 03/12/04 Permalink
partyhat
580 posts
go einstein!
i've often thought of becoming a woman myself - but only when i'm watching lesbians rubbing themselves against each other
12:39am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4703 posts
If you get it lopped off, can I have it? I've just prepared a jar of formaldehyde - does anyone have suggestions for a label?


Well I saw a program on Discovery about how the yanks and the Russians have bits of Einstain's brain in jars for posterity.

You could always label it 'Einstein's c***'

sell it on eBay.
12:40am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1937 posts
12:40am 03/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1530 posts
I think I'll label it 'Thread of the year'.

Einy, don't forget to get a sperm sample or two preserved in case you wanna drop your seed in the future.
12:42am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1938 posts
It deserves a few awards
12:45am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3934 posts
You're male, and think you want to be female (or want to be - whatever), causes you psychologically to be unhappy, you transgender and now you -think- you're happy because psychologically you've gotten what you thought you wanted.
Kind of akin to 'convincing' yourself of something, if you tell yourself something often enough, you'll start to believe it.


nice theory, but i already said i've felt this way since i was a small child

so by your theory, i've always been a girl, and nothing i can do now will change that fact, not even thousands of dollars of therapy

thanks loki =)
12:46am 03/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1351 posts
He Einy when you get your new vagina can I f*** you?

Its just that Im not that good looking and I dont have much money so you'll do.

You bring the lube and I'll bring the paper bag.

We can make sweeeet lurve! And you have no chance of getting pregnent! woohoo!

xox
12:47am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1939 posts
Loki's looking out for the small guy.. er.. woman

last edited by ravn0s at 00:48:22 03/Dec/04
12:48am 03/12/04 Permalink
pillsy
Brisbane, Queensland
94 posts
good luck with everything mate
12:48am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1940 posts
He Einy when you get your new vagina can I f*** you?

Its just that Im not that good looking and I dont have much money so you'll do.

You bring the lube and I'll bring the paper bag.

We can make sweeeet lurve! And you have no chance of getting pregnent! woohoo!

xox


yer but s/he's a lesbian
12:49am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5080 posts
Chromosomes? Dude, I think it's a psychological issue, my understanding is that chromosomes are a bunch of self-replicating genetic structures of cells which all contain the cellular DNA that holds in its nucleotide sequence, the linear array of genes, meaning if you had a 'faulty' set of chromosomes, you'd end up with 'diseases/disabilities' for example, Downs syndrome is a genetic defect of chromosome 21, where they have THREE chromosomes instead of a PAIR, it causes things like mental retardation, slanted eyes, short fingers etc. etc.

Chromosomes don't really cause "Hey dudes, my body developed fine, I got picked on at school HOLY F*** I WANNA BE A GIRL"
12:49am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
95 posts
Its intresting to see that a thread like this brings out the immature f**** that frequent this forum.

When i was in Melb caffienebear told me something big was in order but wouldn't bloody tell me what (the b****) but NOW, HOLY S***.

Where do i start? you sound like you have your heart set on it einey and good for you! As per a lot of other comments, get some sperms preserved in case anything happens. This has to be the biggest news qgl has seen since we all found those pics off kath... hehe
12:50am 03/12/04 Permalink
Dodgymon
Brisbane, Queensland
817 posts
When you say no one really knows you.

When I found out your secret a few weeks back it didn't really shock me. The only reason I was taken back about was the fact how long you had actually thought about this.

You would be suprised how well people do know you.
12:51am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5081 posts
Yeah einy, I'm not trying to say this is the wrong thing, I'm just trying to make sure you really understand that this is more than probable of a psychological factor [but then again, this is only my perception of things, and I'm not professor or doctor of anything so my word is by no means gospel] not a genetic one.

If it makes you happy, by all means, go for gold squire.

last edited by Loki at 00:52:17 03/Dec/04
12:51am 03/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1352 posts
This thread gives a whole new meaning to

"Go f*** yourself"
12:52am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3935 posts
It's not some fantasy or any of that crap

I wish i could explain or understand it, hell even the specialists don't even understand it. It's being labelled as a mental condition currently =P

I've always been this way, i tried my hardest to fit in and be like everyone else but it's not working and i'm just getting more depressed every day.

Becoming a girl will be a f***load more NORMAL than the s*** i have to go through every day right now.
12:58am 03/12/04 Permalink
Skitza
Brisbane, Queensland
6046 posts
That.

Is.

F***ed.

Up.

Goodbye.
12:58am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
97 posts
I wish i could explain or understand it, hell even the specialists don't even understand it. It's being labelled as a mental condition currently =P


myself, caffienebear and other psych's will give you discounts :P
01:00am 03/12/04 Permalink
garf
Brisbane, Queensland
63 posts
I don't see why it wouldn't be genetic. If you've felt that way ever since you were a child then it's gotta be a genetic thing, not something you've learnt.

Also this thing about the mind being "a blank state" when you are born is rubbish. The mind is influenced by genetics just like the body is influenced by genetics.

I'd say the odds are that this would be an inherited genetic thing. Either that or it's some sexual fetish (it doesn't sound like it), or you've got a serious psychological problem, which I guess is why the doctors are being careful.

But I say if it's what you want then go for it, and good luck.

PS
I heartily endorse this event and/or product.
01:01am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1941 posts
ok so who actually new about this before this thread was made?
01:02am 03/12/04 Permalink
peacekeeper
Brisbane, Queensland
2527 posts
well he's certainly got the attention whore routine worked out already
01:02am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1942 posts
well im off to bed. gl with ur change einy
01:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5082 posts
I don't see why it wouldn't be genetic. If you've felt that way ever since you were a child then it's gotta be a genetic thing, not something you've learnt.
Hormonal influences are genetic, hormones effect emotion, emotion effects actions.

You 'learn from your actions', if you were beaten and abused as a child, you would [and this is speculation but we can all probably look at it and say "yes, that's true"] live a very different life than if you had non-abusive parents (i.e. different personality)..

That's not to say better or for worse.

Would you be the same person if you have completely different friends? you might think so, but you probably wouldn't be, you would think and act differently.

Your environment causes you to take action, your action has a reaction, and you learn from that.

I know I for one can't remember much or anything as a 'child' but I know everything that happened has probably HELPED (helped being key) create who I am today (it flattened out the land), early teens started the concrete foundation, late teens started building the house on top and finally 20's - 30's will add all the bricks and tiles I like to it. [you basically find your 'personality/behavioural regime' which makes you happiest]...

If you live for everyone else's expecations of who you should be, you will be unhappy.
If you live for who you WANT to be, you will be happy.

This, I think, is the problem Einstein is facing.

last edited by Loki at 01:14:03 03/Dec/04
01:08am 03/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10092 posts
they've classified it a medical condition because... well it is...

more specifically its apparent your sexual identity has become skewed...
Thats just something everyone goes through but in your case its manifested itself in a significantly stronger form eg your devotion to become a girl...

if you were serious about *not* being a girl you can get deprogramed but that costs a bit and most of the therapy occurs over in america...

Sorry einy, i'm just going to put this down as a 'greyden-esque' moment
01:10am 03/12/04 Permalink
eK
Brisbane, Queensland
8283 posts
In, for the rest of this thread.


HOLY S***!
01:10am 03/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
133 posts
WHAT THE F***!


now in all seriousness.. if you are born with a d*** you will always be a d***, as you said its only image change, you will still have the male gene inside you that will always make you a d***.

so what if you have felt unhappy all your life, its just mean your physcological problems stem that far back, it doesnt mean you were born with the soul of a women. your probably hung around with mum in the kitchen to much whilst your brothers and sisters where out shooting pigs or something.

im happy with what i got and i would never get surgery to change it wether it be my nose my d*** or my tits.

and your on f*****g hormones.. how on earth are you going to think clearly on hormones, no wonder the shrinks convinced you your a women on the inside, your emotional like a women.

i dont want to knock you as a person but i cant help but express my opinion on how changing your appearance will not benefit the way you feel if anything you will feel emptier and broker.

01:13am 03/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
134 posts
Sorry einy, i'm just going to put this down as a 'greyden-esque' moment


OH AND WHAT THE F*** DOES THAT MEAN...

is it because i f***ed a whale and then kissed a guy for money?
01:14am 03/12/04 Permalink
simE
Wynnum, Queensland
5007 posts
ok.
01:16am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7565 posts

Einy, don't forget to get a sperm sample or two preserved in case you wanna drop your seed in the future.
terrible suggestion. Until this point the only positive thought I got from this thread was that I was finally safe in the knowledge that Einstein will definately not breed.

Now you have gone and tossed (excuse the pun) up the notion of sperm preservation and thus my safety net is gone!
01:16am 03/12/04 Permalink
caffeinebear
Melbourne, Victoria
914 posts
wow, it took balls to post that :P

I mean, OMG LET'S GET HIM!

=D
01:18am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
98 posts
you, bear are a b**** for not tellin me !
01:19am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5083 posts
^In agreeance with Box and Greyden.

The thing I'd be concerned about is if you go down this road and it still hasn't made you happy.

You should do something like someone else suggested in this thread before taking such a leap of faith I think.

Break out of your current regime, quit work, move house, travel the world..
Whatever it takes, ANY of those options are far easier to re-couperate the losses than retrieving your gender back.

Then this is no different to homosexuality, can we really be certain that people ARE actually attracted to the same sex? or do they just convince themselves (for whatever reason) that they are (and thus 'brainwash' themselve into being attracted to the same sex)...

Now, I'm not knocking 'gays' or saying they're bad, I'm just saying we can't TRULY empathise with them, or einsteins position until we [as humans] really understand more.
01:20am 03/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10093 posts
is it because i f***ed a whale and then kissed a guy for money?
the flippers weren't a turn off? :p
01:22am 03/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
135 posts
the flippers weren't a turn off? :p



thar she blows!
01:25am 03/12/04 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
4868 posts
I posted in this thread.
01:27am 03/12/04 Permalink
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Ireland
10949 posts
jesus

this is a news flash, I get home from 16 hour sin the office and read this!!
01:31am 03/12/04 Permalink
Skyhawk
Brisbane, Queensland
1276 posts
Queer Gender League, F*****g hell,

I honestly thought this was a joke, I guess I was wrong :/

Seriously you say you have been rediculed for being who you were, and now your becoming a Female ozzy osbourne?, grow the f*** up.
01:31am 03/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2936 posts
01:32am 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4259 posts
I personally can't fathom how chopping my penis off and getting it surgically crafted into a vagina would help me to feel like a woman... maybe a little more like but not a full blown woman, you are still missing most of the "bits" that make up a woman, womb etc...

I'd always know I was still a male with a very severely f***ed up penis with boobs that grew from pills. Anyone who performs an autopsy is going to know this as well.


The point made before is very valid too, you'd wanna be 5 billion % sure on this cause its not like your wang is gonna be able to reform if you decide it hasn't helped.
01:32am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5084 posts
Pussies don't like d**** because pussies get f***ed by d****. But d**** also f*** a*******. A******* that just want to s*** on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with a******* their way. But the only thing that can f*** a a****** is a d***, with some balls. The problem with d**** is they f*** too much or f*** when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes pussies can be so full of s*** that they become a******* themselves. Because pussies are a inch and half away from a*******. I don't know much about this crazy crazy world, but I do know this. If you don't let us f*** this a****** we're going to have our d**** and pussies all covered in s***.
01:32am 03/12/04 Permalink
Skyhawk
Brisbane, Queensland
1277 posts
^^ F*** YEAH! PORNO F*** YEAH !STARBUCKS F*** YEAH!
01:33am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5085 posts
/me hi5's Skyhawk
01:36am 03/12/04 Permalink
Boofe
Brisbane, Queensland
851 posts
WTF are you f*****g serious?

01:37am 03/12/04 Permalink
got bean
Brisbane, Queensland
1191 posts
haha Loki, I was just about to post that when I read the d**** post :-)
01:40am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3936 posts
This thread actually didn't decompose into a steaming pile of monkey s***

Thankyou =)
01:49am 03/12/04 Permalink
riot'us
Brisbane, Queensland
2448 posts
MATT DAMON!

But seriously.. in the pic is that your real hair? I remember a while back you posted about growing long hair...
01:50am 03/12/04 Permalink
exo
Brisbane, Queensland
7088 posts
posting on an innernet forum...
01:52am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7566 posts
loki is like a crazy clarkes version of doctor phil.
01:53am 03/12/04 Permalink
garf
Brisbane, Queensland
64 posts
The thing I'd be concerned about is if you go down this road and it still hasn't made you happy.


I agree, but he won't be getting his d*** chopped off for at least 3 years, and will be living as a woman for much longer, so he'll probably know long before if it makes him happy.

I personally can't fathom how chopping my penis off and getting it surgically crafted into a vagina would help me to feel like a woman... maybe a little more like but not a full blown woman, you are still missing most of the "bits" that make up a woman, womb etc...


If you read what he said he DOES feel like a woman already. This is just bringing his body into line with how he feels.

I know I for one can't remember much or anything as a 'child'


I remember stuff that happened to me as a kid, mainly stuff that had a big impact on me. So maybe it's the same with him.

If you live for everyone else's expecations of who you should be, you will be unhappy.
If you live for who you WANT to be, you will be happy.


I agree. This is something I'm starting to learn myself, but sometimes I gotta say it's not easy.

can we really be certain that people ARE actually attracted to the same sex? or do they just convince themselves (for whatever reason) that they are (and thus 'brainwash' themselve into being attracted to the same sex)...


I guess we've just got to take their word for it. It's really a case of deciding at what point a person is insane and at what point they're still rationally able to make their own decisions, even if those decisions are different than normal. Considering that Einstein seems otherwhise perfectly rational we should give him the benefit of the doubt that he's an accurate observer of what he's feeling.
01:56am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5087 posts
Sorry spidz, did I have something to say that went above your head?

My posts may not be 100% right (primarily the chromosome idea), and definately not anywhere near perfect in the psychological side of it, I merely only offered my own insight into the idea, which was a whole lot more than you ever could.

Grow up, die in meteorite shower, I don't really care which it is, either way, take a hint: GO AWAY.
01:58am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7567 posts
haha, now you think you're intelligent? thats funny.

and as far as einstein is concerned, imo the old adage rings true.

"it's what's inside that counts"

you should go watch Chasing Amy, while the topic isn't the same some of the insight in the movie is quite relevant.
02:02am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5088 posts
... *snip* that he's an accurate observer of what he's feeling.
Well said, and in agreeance.
02:03am 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5089 posts
haha, now you think you're intelligent? thats funny.
There's a difference between intelligence and knowledge.

Formerly, I gave up a small amount of the latter.
Now, I'll be the more intelligent one and just ignore your childish, irrelevant and useless posts.

And also going to sleep,
kthxbi.

last edited by Loki at 02:08:47 03/Dec/04
02:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
3130 posts
if you really wanted to be intelligent and just ignore him, that's what you would've done - not post again, probably out of concern that if you didn't at least say something, it might look like he pwnd you - which, ironically, is what your post ended up looking like anyway

sleep tight


11 pages, this thread certainly had the desired effect. I wonder what people will do for attention once the coming out of the sexual closet fads die out

02:28am 03/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2937 posts
* N U K E D *

By Jim
02:42am 03/12/04 Permalink
Jim
Brisbane, Queensland
3131 posts
teehee
02:55am 03/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2938 posts
didnt see that comming :D

02:57am 03/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1353 posts
does this mean you'll have to stick a dildo up your sloppy box to masturbate Einy?

Rather have missus palmer, mehself
03:01am 03/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1531 posts
Not with 10 working digits he won't
03:04am 03/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1354 posts
: another immature post in this legendery thread.

I heard chicks get off by sliding down the bannister or sitting on a corner of the washing machine.

Theres a whole world or girly wanking techniques to explore, once you get your johnson cut off.
03:05am 03/12/04 Permalink
DVE 81
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
479 posts
HOLY F*****G MOSES
03:16am 03/12/04 Permalink
lmnt
Brisbane, Queensland
1360 posts
being the creator of eingirl and having photoshopped him many times i can confirm that photo.

also, on a slightly ironic matter, it just so happens i can speak german and i have come up with a new name for einstien, seeing as though its german.

please welcome:

KeinSteine
03:26am 03/12/04 Permalink
defcon
Brisbane, Queensland
1108 posts
rofl strex, on fire!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/defcon/onfire.jpg

oh and gl with it and all, its some serious s*** your getting yourself into

last edited by defcon at 03:55:29 03/Dec/04
03:43am 03/12/04 Permalink
Insom
Brisbane, Queensland
149 posts
If I were ever tempted to transform myself into a girl, the fact that all the surgery and hormones in the world would never, ever give me a real vagina would probably stop me from doing it

Good luck, though
03:49am 03/12/04 Permalink
Darius
Gold Coast, Queensland
2400 posts
loki is like a crazy clarkes version of doctor phil.
hahahah this thread sure has been one of the funniest in a while its right up there with mental patient
03:58am 03/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
864 posts
this should be a promoted forum news item.
04:24am 03/12/04 Permalink
hef
Queensland
1218 posts
well f*** a duck aye.
04:24am 03/12/04 Permalink
skz
Brisbane, Queensland
439 posts
nice dan! :>


i didnt know you could craft the penis intoa vagina and then get a female orgasm ...

learn something new everyday....

gl wid it.
05:28am 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2381 posts
wtf....

I go away for a few days and I come back to a thread like this...

This has got to be a joke right ? I mean if it is a joke than i congradulate you for a job well done in fooling the enitre QGL forum.

If it isn't a joke then





























http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/zeezee/Random/post-6-1098753557.jpg



last edited by Booyah at 05:37:33 03/Dec/04
05:36am 03/12/04 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
3552 posts
gee... i go off to play wow for a few days...

i come back and eny is a gurl...


well i gess i'll just go back to WoW



also epic thread++


also waiting for the 'ENY WENT ON HOLIDAYS AND HIS FRIENDS PLAYED A JOKE ON HIS COMPUTER LOOZLZZZ!!!!!111!!onE 'post


06:31am 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2384 posts
Also will you one day attend future QGL lans looking like that ?
(Backpunched at QGL!!)
and what would we have to call you ? Mr Queen Jenna Taylor ? and why on earth would you post this on a public forum ? surely it's not going to make you feel any better ?

I also suspect rev evil to have something to say to all of us sometime soon ;)

I still have may doubts. This whole "There's something about Einstein" sounds a lil sus. I mean if you came out and said you were a chocolate packer then i'd prolly believe it more.

Either way I blame society and reality tv and perhaps a combination of both.

NOT MY LIFE...


last edited by Booyah at 06:48:55 03/Dec/04
06:34am 03/12/04 Permalink
Pharcyde
Kilos
Brisbane, Queensland
3939 posts
NOFX - My Vagina

My vagina has two sets of lips, but I dont got monthly blood drips
My vagina hardly even used
My vagina got lots of extra skin, they took my outtie and made it an in
Turning donnie into Marie Osmand

Operation successful, but now I gotta pee threw a miniature hole
Gotta remember to put the seat down and when I wipe my ass
I go from front to back Cause I dont want to get a bladder infection

I never thought Id miss my vas deferance
I trade it in for a par of huge cans
Now I get to hang with lesbians

Operation paid up front
Now I show all my friend my new designer c***
They think Im kinda weird but thats ok with me
Cause now I kick their ass playing from the ladies tee
Theres nothing finer than having a vagina

last edited by Pharcyde at 07:58:02 03/Dec/04
07:56am 03/12/04 Permalink
Grosby
Brisbane, Queensland
2689 posts
Rather have missus palmer, mehself

You have absolutly no idea what you're missing.

last edited by Grosby at 08:08:27 03/Dec/04
08:07am 03/12/04 Permalink
Fade2Black
Brisbane, Queensland
3846 posts
see what happens when you cheat in CS on lan?
08:17am 03/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10804 posts
loki is like a crazy clarkes version of doctor phil


haha!
08:22am 03/12/04 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
10448 posts
Einhorn is Finkle, Finkle is Einhorn.
09:17am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4705 posts
I wonder what people will do for attention once the coming out of the sexual closet fads die out


Damned if I know Jim, but thats a good point. I guess the new trend will be people admtting to all those murders they got away with years ago.

Anyway, I slept on this last night and spoke to the wife about it. She asked me something I thought relevant too. If they can give you all the 'T' blockers and hormomes and such, why didn't they just use the same techniques (drugs/hormones and shrink) to boost your 'male' side and make that the dominant awareness in yourself...change and treat the 'male' side of your psychie and boost that as well?

She suggested that it's so easy for the practitioners invovled to go, 'hmm ok guy thinks he's a girl, fine lets make him a girl', rather than sat, "Hey guy thinks he's a girl, sweet mother of god lets get him straightened out and help him realise he really is a male."

Like apart from how you 'feel' is there really any conclusive medical reason why you should have a gender shift? For example has the Doctor said, "hey look if I dont turn you into a girl you're going to die."

Anyway this thread is going to go for a while.
09:36am 03/12/04 Permalink
blahnana
Brisbane, Queensland
84 posts
So here's a question for you... did you consider joining a forum as a female character and seeing how you like life treated as a woman in a forum for a while? It's cheap and easily reversible.

I mean, noone knows the difference right? You'd be physically a man, but mentally a woman, and everyone online would treat you like a woman.

It's kinda like what we do with Jim, only the other way around.
10:02am 03/12/04 Permalink
tung
Token Black Man
Brisbane, Queensland
2468 posts
dammit, jim beat me as first admin to post :(

yeah, epic thread, everyone knows.


as for the situation itself? i cant really decide what i think. i tend to aghree with psycho in terms of why didnt they try make him feel like a guy first before relenting to making him into a girl?

anyway, f*** me dead einstein, what a way to usher out 2004 as the year of no LAN :o
10:06am 03/12/04 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
2467 posts
damn I thought this was another prank a-la-Janie-got-bean. I hear you can get the chop-chop real cheap in Thailand Einey ;) Or are you going for the Crying-Game moment look?
10:09am 03/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1206 posts
ok so i don't care how you f*** your own body up but why scare all the little kiddies now.

that picture, like wtf!
10:25am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3937 posts
If I were ever tempted to transform myself into a girl, the fact that all the surgery and hormones in the world would never, ever give me a real vagina would probably stop me from doing it

Do some research, it's pretty damn close.
Also will you one day attend future QGL lans looking like that ?

I don't see why not, provided there even will be another QGL lan, most randoms aren't going to tell the difference. Only you guys are going to know =)
Either way I blame society and reality tv and perhaps a combination of both.

I went and saw specialists long before Miriam came out and shocked the world.
Anyway, I slept on this last night and spoke to the wife about it. She asked me something I thought relevant too. If they can give you all the 'T' blockers and hormomes and such, why didn't they just use the same techniques (drugs/hormones and shrink) to boost your 'male' side and make that the dominant awareness in yourself...change and treat the 'male' side of your psychie and boost that as well?

Negative, my Testosterone levels were nearly maxed out as it was, any more would probably kill me.
Like apart from how you 'feel' is there really any conclusive medical reason why you should have a gender shift? For example has the Doctor said, "hey look if I dont turn you into a girl you're going to die."

I thought i already explained this was the case, i am going to die if this doesn't happen.
10:26am 03/12/04 Permalink
Hemerage
Brisbane, Queensland
14235 posts

WHaaaaaaaaaa?
10:31am 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1943 posts
suicide
10:35am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
104 posts
so your going to kill yourself if you dont loose the wang?
10:35am 03/12/04 Permalink
phathead
Brisbane, Queensland
1607 posts
ill leave u to it :S ...
10:35am 03/12/04 Permalink
Fizzer
Brisbane, Queensland
144 posts


Hehe nah seriously brash move. I saw some doco on this a while back and what ppl are saying about doctors rushing in to make him a woman is bulls***.

For starters there is a huge process involved with phychiatrists etc and then he has to live as a woman for awhile before he can get any irreversable treatment.

Also if this was just a sick fetish "i want to be a girl so i can play with boobies whenever i feel like it" i really doubt that he'd go through all the trouble of being riduculed - i mean imagine rocking up to work one day as a different gender - thats gotta be a lil f***ed up :P
10:41am 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4706 posts
Well good luck with it, I think you are going to find its a long hard road. I mean how has family and friends taken the news? Supportive/ shocked? negative ect?

I thought buying new hardware was a big decision!
10:42am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
105 posts
A new argument against sex-change operations is the developing demand for a different kind of surgery, where people ask to have one or more healthy limbs cut off This condition is known as apotemnophilia. Last year, a surgeon in Scotland drew heavy publicity for amputating the healthy legs of two patients. His hospital stopped him before he could amputate the leg of a third.

Minnesota bioethicist Carl Elliott notes that clinicians and patients alike often suggest apotemnophilia is like gender-identity disorder and that amputation is like sex-reassignment surgery.

What is needed before more men are cut up is a review of the castrations to date to determine whether the victims are any happier and have had their psychological problems resolved, or whether they are still dysfunctional in one or more ways and would have been better treated with psychiatry.

the Herald Sun published my letter of July 14. The paper was reporting on the case of a man suing doctors he claims wrongly advised him to have a sex-change operation. Alan Finch, 34, alleges he was misdiagnosed as a transsexual when he sought help from the Gender Identity Clinic, Monash Medical Centre.

Mr. Finch, who was 19 at the time, claims he was inadequately counselled and advised too quickly to have a sex-change operation. His lawyer said Mr. Finch would ask the County Court to award "significant compensation" for pain, suffering, medical costs and loss of earning capacity. The claim could amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Mr. Finch alleges he visited the clinic in 1986 suffering psychiatric problems he believed were caused by "gender dysphoria and/or confused gender identity". He alleges he was diagnosed as "suffering from transsexualism" after three consultations and advised that gender reassignment was an appropriate treatment. His transformation to "Helen" was completed two years later.

http://www.endeavourforum.org.au/feb04-04.htm
10:43am 03/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10095 posts
I thought i already explained this was the case, i am going to die if this doesn't happen.
Wow you don't leave yourself much room there...
10:43am 03/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3743 posts
I am going to die boxhead if I have to listen to splat and lokis faux medical knowledge for one more post, f***!
10:46am 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
106 posts
shut up you immature c***tard and read it
10:48am 03/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3744 posts
Yeah you cut and paste a vaguely related article who is questionable in its own right...

U AMS DA PSYCOLOGIST
10:54am 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3961 posts
/agrees with taco

actually, this whole situation really disgusts me. this isnt some femanistic little pretty boy we're talking about here. Its f*****g EINSTEIN GOD DAMN IT AAAARHGH

what a mess :(
11:08am 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1651 posts

rock on einstein!

best of luck, your in for one hell of a trip i imagine. hope it all works out for you.
11:13am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7571 posts
ok, so will you sleep with other shemales?

if you're a lesbian and you're not attracted to guys, yet you completely believe in the entire process then you wouldn't be against forming an intimate relationship with someone in the same circumstance as you? Or would you discriminate against yourself?
11:14am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7572 posts
another pondering question.

if they fashion the head of the penis into a clitoris will you ejaculate and/or pee right out of the end of your clitoris?

that s*** is whack.
11:18am 03/12/04 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
2468 posts

if you're a lesbian and you're not attracted to guys, yet you completely believe in the entire process then you wouldn't be against forming an intimate relationship with someone in the same circumstance as you? Or would you discriminate against yourself?


Oh the complications :(. So he's attracted to girls but he's a dude who wanted to be a girl so he'll have to find either a lesbian that don't mind a shemales (which lets face it, it's really is a dude) or another shemale which he won't be attracted too 'cause (s)he also a dude... f*** and I thought my life was complicated ...
11:22am 03/12/04 Permalink
Grosby
Brisbane, Queensland
2690 posts
I'd imagine that Lesbians are attracted to the female physique and emotional level. Having a penis would be a bonus if I was looking for lesbian lovers :D
11:31am 03/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2842 posts
if they fashion the head of the penis into a clitoris will you ejaculate and/or pee right out of the end of your clitoris?
You think too much.
11:36am 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7573 posts
i know, and in this case it has caused me to feel quite ill
11:39am 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1652 posts
ps. einstein you'll probably end up looking like smile from q2 ! :D
11:41am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3938 posts
yes domino, thats a pretty close assumption, very close indeed

and the rest of you, all you can think about is sex?

besides, the penis becomes quite useless after a lengthy course of hormones. It only takes about 3-4 months to become permanently sterile, and not too long after that it wont even go up anymore. The lot will shrink and fade away and it may as well not be there anyway
11:45am 03/12/04 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
1677 posts
THINK ABOUT THE PENIS!!!

you're killing the little fella

last edited by Paveway-3 at 11:50:10 03/Dec/04
11:49am 03/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10096 posts
and the rest of you, all you can think about is sex?
there isn't that much else to think about since your thoughts seem to be quite all over the place on any other issue..

The only thing you seem to be firm about is your unwillingness to be 'gay' and to partake in gay sex acts... Everything else is entirely up in the air oh and the bit about if you don't get rid of your penis you will die...

Where is obes to remind us once again that this personal s*** should stay the f*** out of the forums...
11:53am 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3939 posts
yeah but i don't care what the forumites think, i simply posted so everyone got my side of the story

not some f*****g gay tranny gossip a couple months down the track when i turn up to a lan with tits

everyone will know eventually, and it's better this way, i don't have to become a hermit for 8 months and not go out at all
11:58am 03/12/04 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
15740 posts
I only just saw this thread and couldn't believe it when I read it at first, I kept waiting for the punchline at the end. If you're serious, good luck with it, and congrats on having the guts to post about it and absorb some of the (c'mon, it was inevitable) lame comments.
12:09pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4260 posts
oh and despite what gender you believe you are in your head, unless science is going to give you a complete female body, you'll always be male ...


I have to say I completely agree with this statement. My belief is that unless you have a fully functional female body you can't and never should be classed as female.


Thats something I would like to know, after completing a sex change, are you legally listed as female on drivers license etc (even though you are still going to be male on the inside)?
12:18pm 03/12/04 Permalink
NaBeL|MuSe
Brisbane, Queensland
191 posts
I agree with the clean state of mind at birth, and you got f***ed in the head at some point, whether it was from bullies or yourself or f*****g that whale that time..

but i think if you are like this now you need to go through with it,if it improves your life then yay. so best of luck with that.
12:19pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Hemerage
Brisbane, Queensland
14236 posts
I got confirmation from someone einy knows ... 'tis true
Crazy

I wasn't sure if I was believing the story either


It's weird. But still, good on you or having the balls to say it on here
12:20pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10810 posts
i can think of better ways to get fanny
12:21pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Splash
Brisbane, Queensland
1946 posts
But still, good on you or having the balls to say it on here

haha, i find that sentence strangely amusing.
12:34pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2843 posts
I have to say I completely agree with this statement. My belief is that unless you have a fully functional female body you can't and never should be classed as female.
Classed? IMHO as far as the law is concerned he should be 'classed' as a female simply because that is how he wants to be classed. It doesn't make any differnece to the law either way and it would cut down on a lot of confusion. As far as science is concerned, maybe not but then will you be able to class him as a man?
It's weird. But still, good on you or having the balls to say it on here
Well considering he pretty much has to tell his family/freinds/co-workers/randoms like at the bank/DOT/hospital face to face, I'd say that posting it on an internet forum is easy in comparison.
12:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Hemerage
Brisbane, Queensland
14237 posts

Really, I just wanted to say balls..
12:38pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3940 posts
I will have a fully functional female body. The hormones will rewire the nervous system pertaining to sex and sensations, so my nipples will be just like any other girls' and that's including all the other less known areas, like behind the knees, halfway down the chest on the sides, small of the back. You know, all the erogenous zones i'll inherit just from the course of hormones.

After the surgery, with a lot of rehab (if you're thinking dirty, you're correct) it will be a fully functional system all linked up together, just like a genetic girl's. Bite the nipple and feel it down there, for instance.

I will be in a very real sense a girl with a f***ed up skeleton and lack of a reproductive system (oh and a rib)

If physical stuff is all that matters to you, i suggest you research some more.
12:39pm 03/12/04 Permalink
partyhat
581 posts
I will be in a very real sense a girl


And if you're not, you'll be a mess.

Have you interviewed anyone that has gone through the procedure?
12:44pm 03/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1207 posts
I will be in a very real sense a girl with a f***ed up skeleton and lack of a reproductive system (oh and a rib)


i have never read a more contradictory statement, given that a reproductive system (ovaries and uterus) is one of the fundamental differences between man and woman.
12:46pm 03/12/04 Permalink
steve0
Brisbane, Queensland
260 posts
man.. the wang has it' own lifeforce.. your killing him!!!

They have feelings too.

anways. I'm all aginst the people messing with natural order.

gays adopting children, lesbians adopting children, men getting the chop etc.

Just really think about the consequences of mssing with your body. The mind is one thing but it seems crazy to have to loose parts of your body to feel good about yourself...
12:47pm 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1944 posts
i have never read a more contradictory statement, given that a reproductive system (ovaries and uterus) is one of the fundamental differences between man and woman.


what about women that have had their ovaries etc removed due to medical reasons, are they not still women?
12:49pm 03/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1208 posts
um they were born with ovaries etc. it determines their gender. XX chromosome and what not. tio remove them via surgery still does not deny they are female. and if you never had them, you ain't female. how can you be?
12:52pm 03/12/04 Permalink
stinky
Brisbane, Queensland
394 posts
here's the bit that bothers me.

You say that for all purposes you are a female trapped inside a male's body. You say however that you're not gay.

surely if you were really F then to be gay would mean you're attracted to other F's, and to be straight you'd be attracted to Males?

So when you've finished baking and the doctors take you out of the oven, which will you be? Girl homosexual, or Girl heterosexual, or Girl asexual ?

p.s. when exactly do you start living as a woman? From my understanding of it, before they start doing any of the really radical stuff to your body they'll insist on you living as a woman for a while to make sure that's what your brain really wants.
12:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
AvengeR
Brisbane, Queensland
308 posts
holy f*** hey, that must have taken some guts to post. your life, so do what you want.
change your name to Einfraulein
01:00pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Mantra
Crusty old man
Brisbane, Queensland
1017 posts
Well.. there ya go then!

Good luck with it Einy!
01:04pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3941 posts
You say that for all purposes you are a female trapped inside a male's body. You say however that you're not gay.


explain lesbians
01:04pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4707 posts
I see from some of the info sites that some of the surgery involves shaving the adams apple as well, you getting that done also?
01:05pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2844 posts
i have never read a more contradictory statement, given that a reproductive system (ovaries and uterus) is one of the fundamental differences between man and woman.
What about women who are barren or can't have children for whatever reason? Are they not women or is it just enough that they have the parts?

Lets face it, it is more about perception than science. No one will be able to see that he doesn't have ovaries so it comes down to how he's treated. If he's treated like a woman and perceived as a woman then that is all that really matters. The thing is that for most of us einstien will always be a man because that is how we first perceived him. He will never be a woman to us because our perception has already been affected but for someone that has never met him before might have a completely different perception once the procedure is complete.

Basically what I'm saying is that this is a social issue not a scientific one.

01:05pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Ross
Brisbane, Queensland
1449 posts
I think you might be making a mistake dude.

Your a smart fella! Surely you know that any type of superficial change can't make you happy. The fact that you are contemplating suicide makes me think that it is just a cry for help!

You should take a good look at your values and pick out the ones that are letting you down. Bring out whatever instances in your past that have been constantly haunting you and deal with them properly. No amount of self mutilation is going to make you feel any better about your existence.

Whatever your problems are this can't be the answer...
01:05pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3942 posts
i've been ignoring the problem since i started puberty, that was the biggest mistake of my life, not what i'm doing now

and yes psycho, trachyshave asap =)
01:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
3320 posts
S*** c***, go out get magget for the night and have a good read to wake me up :P
01:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Wasabi
Brisbane, Queensland
759 posts
I read about the first 8 pages then i jumped to the end...whats going on in this thread?
01:13pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4708 posts
Did you see that article in the paper a few weeks back about the guy who became a woman and then recently went back to being a guy? What a rollercoaster ride that must have been. So basically his mind rewired itself again and he felt he was a man again? What sort of statistics are there on this 'double reversal' type of thing happening?
01:14pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Dopefish
Brisbane, Queensland
213 posts
We are just chillin bro.
what About you?
01:16pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
3553 posts
Wasiabi... dont worry someone hijacked Eni's account




















but that doesnt explain the c cup
01:18pm 03/12/04 Permalink
neimad
Brisbane, Queensland
391 posts
Wow. Kudos to you Einstein for dealing with this issue the way you have.

Best of luck with the procedure, hope it all goes well.
01:19pm 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1945 posts
Did you see that article in the paper a few weeks back about the guy who became a woman and then recently went back to being a guy? What a rollercoaster ride that must have been. So basically his mind rewired itself again and he felt he was a man again? What sort of statistics are there on this 'double reversal' type of thing happening?


s/he fell in love with a woman and the woman wasnt a lesbian, so s/he became a man again so s/he could be with the woman.
01:19pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3943 posts
His brain would not have "rewired" itself

He's a f*****g moron who shouldn't have been allowed to go through with it in the first place
01:32pm 03/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1049 posts
A lot of the feelings to gay/not gay will probably be straightened out once the pills kick in. Being brought up as a guy, amongst guys, having sex with other guys (even after a sex change) will probably have a "disgusting" overtone. Once the hormones start kicking in, chances are you'll start craving the c*** :p
01:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
levels
239 posts
you're depressed because you're not accepted by others aka weirdo.

you will be even less accepted by others after the procedure.

find your niche and find acceptance.
02:20pm 03/12/04 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
1281 posts
HOLY S***!!

I goto bed and wake up to this?!?

May god have mercy on us all.

But, err..good luck with it all..
02:22pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4261 posts
The hormones will rewire the nervous system pertaining to sex and sensations, so my nipples will be just like any other girls' and that's including all the other less known areas, like behind the knees, halfway down the chest on the sides, small of the back. You know, all the erogenous zones i'll inherit just from the course of hormones.


I feel very very skeptical about that... how is a person to say oh we make the head of the penis into the clitoris and you'll have orgasms like a female...

How can you say that, a male has absolutely no idea what it feels like for a female and vice verse. Unless you can experience it through a REAL female (and not sugically fabricated) body you can't!

Anyway guys have erogenous zones as well AFAIK... we may not have big stick up nipples but mine sure aren't numb to stimulation, same goes for the other zones you listed. The only thing I can really see changing is appearance.


I'm not about to go searching the net about sex changes, albeit it I slightly intrigued, but not _that_ much. Myself I just cannot beleive that at all, Its still going to be a male orgasm, just the penis is um well very mutilated IMO :)

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02:27pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Nitro
Gold Coast, Queensland
1058 posts
I refuse to believe this.

I'm calling shenannigans.
02:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3944 posts
extensive studies have been done and descriptions been given by both parties

it's a girls orgasm

now, can we move onto something else? you'd think you were morbidly fascinated with humping trannies or something. Your continued discussion leads me to believe you might all be not as disgusted as you lead on =P

Besides, i'd rather open a vein than sleep with any person on this board, thanks =)
02:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
C0deBasher
Brisbane, Queensland
696 posts

Do this mean the next time I call you an old slut you'll be required to take it personally?

:P

Anyhow hope all goes well regardless.



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02:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3945 posts
i'm still an old slut =)
02:37pm 03/12/04 Permalink
caffeinebear
Melbourne, Victoria
916 posts

Best of luck with it Monty =)

And nerds calling YOU a freak is just wrong...

Heehee
02:39pm 03/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1050 posts
Besides, i'd rather open a vein than sleep with any person on this board, thanks =)

/me quits QGL then! ;p
02:41pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5090 posts
What rubba says is basically right AFAIK.
I can't see -any- reason how your body would be neurologically "re-wired" into magically having a female orgasm, unless your entire nerve system was re-constructed, and I CANT see that happening in a f***** long long long time in medical science yet.
In saying that, I'm really just asking for someone to give me some damn proof, cause until I can read a credible medical article on it, I'm really quite skeptical.

Also, errr, ok VSFT, what do you study again? Football?

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02:43pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Stop Looking At Me Swan
Brisbane, Queensland
1 posts
he said shenannigans.

i shouldnt of read this thread before going to bed last night...nightmares

DANG THATS SOME WACKY S***

02:55pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4262 posts
If you could be so kind, link me to a study or whatever. I want to be enlightened!
02:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3946 posts
um it's all over the place

http://www.tsroadmap.com might give you the best clues and info

i got a great deal of mine by talking to people who have been through it, then just got the specifics off the web and doctors
03:00pm 03/12/04 Permalink
skel
Gold Coast, Queensland
25 posts
explain lesbians


GAY FEMALES

Not Males turned into an artificial female. it sounds like u need to read more. find out more and spend more $$$ than u are already spending on a shrink

dude u really are crazy to say its this or die ppl have been in worst cases than u and pulled out...

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03:02pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3947 posts
where did i blame my problems on reality tv?

sounds like someone needs a better grip on reality than i do...
03:06pm 03/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1051 posts
and u blame reality tv ?

Actually it was someone else who said that.

Edit: Haha.. go ::ninja edit::

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03:07pm 03/12/04 Permalink
skel
Gold Coast, Queensland
26 posts
yea my bad its out now

but u r crazy
03:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1052 posts
Crazy is the new normal.
03:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
skel
Gold Coast, Queensland
27 posts
Crazy is the new normal.


well obviously :D... but there is a limit to anything dude.. alcohol while driving... and being a little insane b4 one has to be instatutionalized
03:13pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4263 posts
I read a few of the articles... no offence but it really made me feel pretty sick imagining half the stuff that was said :S

for the TS woman there will also be strong sensations from the erect corpora and the prostate inside her


That bit stuck out though, I fail to see how its a females orgasm when its described there as sensations from your remaining "stump" inside somewhere and the prostate... hello male bits!
03:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5091 posts
and rubba comes flying down to provide loki with the head start.
Loki : 1
VSFT: 0
03:45pm 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1654 posts
loki you are spouting the most bulls*** pseudo scientific crap ever. what year did you drop out of high school?

yep. shh.

Loki: -1
VSFT: 0
03:56pm 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1655 posts
also: eintsein, im extremely interested why chicks like chocolate so much. you should do some pre op, post op comparisons on chocolate consumtion. cause chicks get off on chocolate way more than guys do, what the f*** is with that ?!
04:03pm 03/12/04 Permalink
pillsy
Brisbane, Queensland
95 posts
can't you guys just accept his decision and leave your prejudice at the door?





loki, why are you trying to argue? its given that you don't understand it, just settle and submit



also watch out for cripz mix volume one hitting the streets december 6
04:06pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Stokesy
Brisbane, Queensland
971 posts
um they were born with ovaries etc. it determines their gender.


FUNFACT: every fetus starts with ovaries, if the little genetic switch says its going to be a boy, the ovaries travel down and become the testicles. Every man has a little scar on his scrotum that would have been the vagina had he been born female.
04:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1656 posts
guess you have been thinking about this a while ...

Oh and those of you who think i know nothing about women have another thing coming to you =P



http://qgl.ausforums.com/?agn=thread&id=2121011
04:22pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4264 posts
I think some of you guys fail to realise a lot of the stuff loki is talking about is not just random personal insights, he is actually doing medical subjects at uni...
04:27pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Hemerage
Brisbane, Queensland
14239 posts
^^ Ohh. Nice sly hint there Einy :)
04:27pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3948 posts
i've been dropping hints for months =)

As for the chocolate thing, google Tryptophan (i think thats the spelling)

That's the chemical that makes chicks go gaagaa
04:38pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4713 posts
Well let us know when you have a decent set of tits..we can all hook up at the Pig and Whistle at Indro and have a good gander. Rate them for ya, see if you're getting 'bang' for your buck so to speak.

:)

T-shirt

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04:41pm 03/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1657 posts
omg you so need that shirt ein, thats awesome.
04:51pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3949 posts
Actually a mate of mine said he had a t-shirt for me when i told him a while back

It reads "I'M THE GIRL WHO YOU JERKED OFF IN THE CHATROOM WITH"

i so want that shirt
04:52pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4265 posts
hahah thats great :)
04:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
darkjedi
Brisbane, Queensland
706 posts
Wow, this just shows how many small/simple minded people there are out there.. Best of luck with it all Einstein, I can imagine it's not something you'd be undertaking lightly...
05:00pm 03/12/04 Permalink
shrapse
Brisbane, Queensland
2910 posts
known ya for ages now ein

good luck to ya
05:18pm 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3968 posts
F*** what y'all think. This is an atrocity.

Think about the einstein you know. That geeky looking derro in black jeans/trenchcoat who used to hang outside smoking for the majority of QGL lans. Now think of him with monged tits, mutilated genitalia and making smartarse comments in a slightly higher pitched voice.

Its just NOT RIGHT!!!!!
05:32pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Viper119
UK
802 posts

this thread delivers.

I just saw the pic on page 2 and i am fairly disgusted, having said that i dont hold anything against you, hope it works out for ya.


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05:37pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3950 posts
you have a pretty s*** view of transsexuals strex

i thought i already explained the manb****** were crossdressers and queens, the ones who don't have any chemical help whatsoever

go look up some tranny porn or something

you may or may not admit it, but you will like the end result
05:43pm 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3969 posts
hahaha sorry man, you've deluded yourself to the point of being rediculous.

the only way i could remotely like the end result would be you were exploded then reassembled to look like Jennifer Love Hewitt. That aint gonna happen. You cant change your bone structure, and you will always look freakish - even more so with dress on and a white-powdered face.

this is all f***ed up.
05:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lits
Brisbane, Queensland
3282 posts
http://www.theswitch.yi.org/pictures/hayguys.JPG

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05:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3951 posts
hahaha sorry man, you've deluded yourself to the point of being rediculous.

the only way i could remotely like the end result would be you were exploded then reassembled to look like Jennifer Love Hewitt. That aint gonna happen. You cant change your bone structure, and you will always look freakish - even more so with dress on and a white-powdered face.

this is all f***ed up.


You're right, it is all f***ed up.

But, i've seen the results from a lot of people who have been through it. It won't be perfect, but hey, there will be far worse looking chicks than me, i'll guarantee you that.

I can get surgery for the bone structure anyway, if it comes to that, but really it doesn't need to. According to the docs, apart from the ever so slightly heavy jaw it should come out fine.

I won't be miriam, but i won't be magda szubanski either
06:00pm 03/12/04 Permalink
eP
Brisbane, Queensland
1645 posts
Just thought id say thats some wack s*** right there...

It won't be perfect, but hey, there will be far worse looking chicks than me, i'll guarantee you that.


The point of the thing is you wont be a chick .. you will be a guy in a dress with tits? =/

Am lost (but not as lost as you?)

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06:02pm 03/12/04 Permalink
skel
Gold Coast, Queensland
28 posts
larf
tho at the end of the day who cares really i mean its his life... but i dont get it einy are u doing this cos u dont like what life has dished out to u or what im so lost .. cos we make our own lives and if so u think it wont be tougher after u get this done?

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06:16pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4715 posts
I can get surgery for the bone structure anyway, if it comes to that, but really it doesn't need to. According to the docs, apart from the ever so slightly heavy jaw it should come out fine.

I won't be miriam, but i won't be magda szubanski either


Can you get all this surgery and stuff on medicare or MBF, like is it a claimable thing?

Oh an Magda's hot! :)

06:19pm 03/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3970 posts
Oh an Magda's hot! :)
I reckon! I hear she has a natural vagina too!

Maybe you can do Jetstar commercials aswell, Einstein.

"Lets fly JetstaaaaaaAA *crack* aaAar!!!"
06:31pm 03/12/04 Permalink
pic
Brisbane, Queensland
1128 posts
im suprised someone hasnt attempted a parody yet.
06:31pm 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2385 posts
Isn't all this bone restructuring/surgeory/womenising yourself going to cost you a fortune ? Or is all this on finance ?

Seriously dude, i dont see how your life is going to be any better.. you're going to be seen as abnormal, different, uncharacteristic and messed up no matter how successful this long term procedure might be.
06:37pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Trin
Brisbane, Queensland
2007 posts
Isn't all this bone restructuring/surgeory/womenising yourself going to cost you a fortune ? Or is all this on finance ?

....
06:42pm 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2386 posts
Ok i know you can't get stuff like that on finance i'm just trying to stress the fact you're going to leave a few holes in your pockets until you become the complete "woman" that you want to be.
06:49pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1532 posts
Sounds like we need a QGL fundraiser to help Einy pay for the procedure...

just pretend it's for kids with eye cancer or something
06:50pm 03/12/04 Permalink
EniGma
Brisbane, Queensland
4248 posts
or ass cancer............

/cue grunt.
06:52pm 03/12/04 Permalink
x-yled
Brisbane, Queensland
448 posts
we can all assume ein is really quite rich, hes been quite stingey and has had the same old celeron and monitor for many many many years past


wtf..... but gl anyway
07:01pm 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2387 posts
Never compare grunt to einstein. Grunt is as real as ever and it takes balls of steel to come out on top of what he's going through.... einstein on the contrary.... f*** knows...
07:04pm 03/12/04 Permalink
verticalseafoodtaco
Wynnum, Queensland
3745 posts
If you can get this through the public health system I'm never paying taxes again.
07:08pm 03/12/04 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
1738 posts
all you people supporting him/her/it and tell everyone who doesnt think this is right off, i have a question...what if he/she/it "hooks up" with you..and doesnt tell you till after? then what...i imagin you all be pritty pissed....

i just thinking about it makes me rofl,
and yes i relise he/she/it said he likes chicks but who knows he/she/it mite get curious

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07:09pm 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2388 posts
It's reality tv.. in reality...

Let me be blunt. Even though i haven't met you in person (thankfully) you'd make even an uglier chick. I think "WTF" sums up most people's thoughts on this forums.

Also my lunch feels like im chewing on my own vomit.

07:15pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Mighty Mouse
Brisbane, Queensland
195 posts
I think this may be the result of reading too many Wonder Woman comics at such a young age? :O


Anyway.... you go girlfriend!


All the best :)



P.s stay away from me
07:16pm 03/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9380 posts
Ember what the f*** did you do to him?
07:24pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Skitza
Brisbane, Queensland
6047 posts
Ember broke him.
07:28pm 03/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2389 posts
I think ember wants to become a man now.
07:30pm 03/12/04 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
1282 posts
While i may not completely agree with what is afoot here, it has been some time since such controvercy has been abroad here at QGL so I'm all for it. Bring it on! Sif we don't have enough freaks already, this should only make it more interesting.
07:32pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10817 posts
is our forum weird?
07:38pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
107 posts
this is as big as the something awfull sister panty smelling thread
07:43pm 03/12/04 Permalink
reload!
Brisbane, Queensland
1283 posts
I wanna smell Janey's panties...as long as they really are hers and not spidz's
07:46pm 03/12/04 Permalink
chode
Brisbane, Queensland
142 posts
i'm going to punch you in the ovary
a straight shot
right to the babymaker.
07:59pm 03/12/04 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
3324 posts
btw i knew there was a reason i never went embassy anymore :P
08:11pm 03/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
137 posts
:O

einy reminds me of placebo - burger queen
08:14pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Goody
Brisbane, Queensland
542 posts
can't beleive i ignored this thread for so long.

and now i have nothing to say :(
08:29pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Kat
3160 posts

Einstein - good luck
08:36pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3952 posts
Since when do i go to the embassy =P
08:44pm 03/12/04 Permalink
steve0
Brisbane, Queensland
262 posts
Agree with strex.. it's f***ed up.

I mean im born raised australian male with messing with gay is bad and dressing, acting or being a girl is wrong for a guy to do... but there si this whole medical thing.

But in the end taking 'the chop' and all that s*** aint going to help a medical condeition!

It will leave you with mad scars and a fake c***!

If any guy does try to get onto you (poor guy) and your drunk and with all this estrogen s*** ... is there any chance the poor c*** will take you home? I mean it's like deception and s***.

I just dont see where hacking up your natural body will help your brain
08:51pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4266 posts
From reading a few articles from the link you posted all that stuff you are talking about is gonna be 10k +

I can think of a zillion better ways to spend 10 grand myself... but anyhoo.

Oh and medicare arent gonna cover that kind of s***... im pretty sure, they dont cover any "enhancement" kinds of surgery. I f*****g hope not, the money could be better spent on people in real need rather than attempting to change a man into some munted form of a female.


I could understand perhaps if you were cursed with a 1 inch wang... hell even 3 inches or something, but by the sounds of it you don't so I'd have to agree with Strex as well.

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08:55pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
109 posts

Einstein - good luck


Do me a favour, if Kat wants to jump in the bathtub with you and a bottle of champaign and take pics.. decline it ok
08:57pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3953 posts
Do me a favour, if Kat wants to jump in the bathtub with you and a bottle of champaign and take pics.. decline it ok

Sure, i'll jump right to the f*****g, ok? Thanks
I can think of a zillion better ways to spend 10 grand myself... but anyhoo.

Really? I can't =)

last edited by Einstein at 21:01:45 03/Dec/04
09:01pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4267 posts
I can think of a zillion better ways to spend 10 grand myself... but anyhoo.

Really? I can't =)


Therein lies the f***edupedness...
09:03pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10099 posts
I just dont see where hacking up your natural body will help your brain
quoted for truth...
09:19pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
110 posts
For arguments sake, does a chick with 3 legs have the right to get the 3rd one chopped off because she wants to be normal? or is she a headcase?
09:24pm 03/12/04 Permalink
steve0
Brisbane, Queensland
263 posts
i think there is a diff between cutting off a third leg and 'third leg'.

It just sounds so wrong. You will be talking to the same old GUY with a freeking tiny wang as a clit and a f***** hole mashed into his groin. and tits that are just fluid filled pectorials (unless you grow actual brest tissue?)

It's like going to a dress up party for life.
09:34pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Mighty Mouse
Brisbane, Queensland
201 posts
Thanks for the freaky visual steve0

T_T
09:50pm 03/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1948 posts
why do u guys even give a s*** what he does? its his life, it doesnt affect u, so why preach?
09:51pm 03/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4268 posts
Im pretty sure you grow real titties by taking female hormones, they'll grow over time.
10:14pm 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7575 posts
If you can get this through the public health system I'm never paying taxes again.
I'll join that team.

What sort of statistics are there on this 'double reversal' type of thing happening?
I'm guessing about 1 in 20 as that seesm to eb the random bs figure flying about these days.

Also, errr, ok VSFT, what do you study again? Football?
dude, washing old men in a hospital doesn't make you a doctor. The $10 I had on bean to go next is now placed on loki.
10:31pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Primal
Other International
1897 posts
*shrugs*

i worked out that this world we live in is f***ed up a long time ago..

good luck einy.. i think you will need it..
10:56pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3954 posts
Yes i'll grow breasts as if i were a normal pubescent female, with a slight limitation. It all goes off my mum's genes minus a cup size.

So as a guide, i'll naturally grow a pair of small C cups.

The genetic info is all there, hormones dictate what you are.

If i went through this pre 10 years old noone would be any the wiser.
11:13pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
824 posts
Eniey, I've seen you at NudgeeLANs and I have to say that you bccoming a girl is all f***ed up. I know everybody has already said it heaps of times but maybe that's because its the truth. Maybe if you spent $10K on sessons you'd come out a better person. So there's one alternative for that $10K.

Anyway if you really want to go through with it, nothing any of us can change your mind. So I guess all we/I can say is good luck and I hope you don't regret it in the future.
11:15pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3955 posts
If it were even possible to brainwash me, i still wouldn't want it.

I am who i am, why fight it? I've been trying to fight it for over 10 years now, and i'm losing.
11:22pm 03/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7219 posts
the chick in your sig turns me on, requesting hi-res version
11:23pm 03/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1053 posts
the chick in your sig turns me on, requesting hi-res version

Seconded :p
11:30pm 03/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8205 posts
New banned phrase on qgl: "Hows it hanging, Einstein"
11:45pm 03/12/04 Permalink
dynamite
Brisbane, Queensland
890 posts
^^ Ahahaha, Gold
11:45pm 03/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7580 posts
New banned phrase on qgl: "Hows it hanging, Einstein"
New phrase: "How they hanging, Einstein?"
11:48pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3956 posts
ahahahha
11:48pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
112 posts
einy, why is your sig got homosexual themes when you said that you are a "lesbian" ?

11:50pm 03/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7220 posts
^^
homosexual Audio pronunciation of "homosexual" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-sksh-l, -m-)
adj.

Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.


n. Usage Problem

A homosexual person; a gay man or a lesbian.

Usage Note: Many people now avoid using homosexual because of the emphasis this term places on sexuality. Indeed, the words gay and lesbian, which stress cultural and social matters over sex, are frequently better choices. Homosexual is most objectionable when used as a noun; here gay man and gay woman or lesbian and their plural forms are called for. It is generally unobjectionable when used adjectivally, as in a homosexual relationship, although gay, lesbian, or same-sex are also available for adjectival use. See Usage Note at gay.


dumbass, lesbians are homosexual
11:54pm 03/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
113 posts
hi whoopass. Would you be so kind as to find me a lesbian porn video where one chick is sticking her c*** into anothers a******?

How about you actually look at his sig before making stupid ill-informed comments?
12:01am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7582 posts

i didn't think this thread could cry for more attention, but now he goes and changes his name as well.
12:01am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7583 posts
hi whoopass. Would you be so kind as to find me a lesbian porn video where one chick is sticking her c*** into anothers a******?
I'll take that challenge!
12:02am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3957 posts
Considering that quote came from a female, i think it's just fine to use it. I don't see anything wrong with it apart from being a little brash.. but that's just me =P

It's a metaphor, think harder
12:03am 04/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
114 posts
i realise that mate but seeing a "gay" midset in your sig made me look twice
12:10am 04/12/04 Permalink
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Brisbane, Queensland
1740 posts
if you like chicks why is your sig talking about dongs in asses...like Lowgoz said why does it have a man on man theme?? if you a les? f****

last edited by Irhabi at 00:13:00 04/Dec/04
12:12am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3958 posts
A quote from the SA forums for you to ponder, i couldn't have said it better myself.
Transsexuals face enough hardship as it is. In America they have to pay for the therapy, medication, clinical visits, electrolysis, facial surgery, and genital surgery all themselves even with most insurance, even though the board of psychiatry recognizes it as an incurable psychiatric disorder (as seen in the DSM-IV medical journal), because insurance companies have declared the entire goddamn process to be "elective" -- but if you speak with any transsexual or psychiatrist, they'll tell you that most of the process (many transsexuals opt out of the surgery) is not elective, and not because they want to save on medical bills, but because the disorder itself is f*****g debilitating.
12:16am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7584 posts
In America they have to pay for the therapy, medication, clinical visits, electrolysis, facial surgery, and genital surgery all themselves even with most insurance, even though the board of psychiatry recognizes it as an incurable psychiatric disorder (as seen in the DSM-IV medical journal),
why would insurance or the govt cover medical costs for physical alterations due to a psychiatric disorder?
12:21am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3959 posts
same way they pay for doctors to continually treat any other mental patient
12:22am 04/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4269 posts
Its only incurable cause the shrinks/surgeons rake in f***loads of cash "treating" and "correcting" all the dissillusioned people... When a guy is willing to pay someone bucketloads of money to cut their weenie up why the hell not?!

All in the mind it is :)


last edited by rubba-chikin at 00:27:34 04/Dec/04
12:23am 04/12/04 Permalink
Deadly-Fly
Brisbane, Queensland
2848 posts
Melissa!? Omg it's a gurl!111!onety!

A/S/L?

Gee Einstien hasn't posted in awhile...
12:23am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7585 posts
same way they pay for doctors to continually treat any other mental patient
thats correct, but the treatment is psychological treatment, not physical treatment in order to satisfy their psychological problems.

I got no problems with health insurance or medicare covering any therapy as you clearly need it, but they shouldn't pay for physical enhancements or adjustments. As they ARE elective and unneccessary.
12:34am 04/12/04 Permalink
Nitro
Gold Coast, Queensland
1060 posts
I think ember wants to become a man now.


She's closer to a man than einstein is to a woman that's for sure.
12:37am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7586 posts
necra and melissa would make a great couple.
12:40am 04/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8814 posts
Oh well, in the end, I guess its his choice. Personally, I can't say I think its the best idea though. Like others have already said, I can't see the point in cutting up your body to try and fix whats in your head.

Its a lot of money to spend, and a lot of pain to go through, to realise in the end that it hasn't solved anything, and probably just given you a whole new set of issues to deal with.

But yeah, in the end, its your choice. So good luck and I hope you're not making a huge mistake.
12:47am 04/12/04 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
69 posts
Why dont you direct the money towards kids in struggling countries that actually have a chance to make something better of their lives?

This is sick, you selfish prick. B****** tend to think about themselves only so youre nothing special.
12:47am 04/12/04 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
9880 posts
Why did you change your name dudette? Isn't Einstein just an alias for online stuff anyway? If you're gonna change your real name to Melissa you don't have to use it here. Anyway, I vote that you go back to Einy.
12:56am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3960 posts
Why dont you direct the money towards kids in struggling countries that actually have a chance to make something better of their lives?


so they can grow up and breed like rabbits like their parents? cool i'll bear that in mind next time charity holds their hand out

i've been selfless and giving most of my life, now you can all get f***ed because it's gotten me nowhere, time to think of myself for a change

rev, it doesn't fit too well in the scheme of things, if i'm continued to be addressed as einy i have no problems with that =)
12:59am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7587 posts
i see you chose to completely ignore my valid points regarding the healthcare system.
01:14am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3961 posts
what would you like me to say? i agree with you? that i'd truly love to pay for something that's out of my hands?

i'm not sure i even want to continue this argument spidz, you're retarded
01:31am 04/12/04 Permalink
trillion
Brisbane, Queensland
70 posts
so they can grow up and breed like rabbits like their parents? cool i'll bear that in mind next time charity holds their hand out


Welcome to reality, humans base a lot of their decisions on emotion and sexuality. It even seems to be a factor in how you've come to your realisation.

i've been selfless and giving most of my life, now you can all get f***ed because it's gotten me nowhere, time to think of myself for a change
have no problems with that =)


So this is your answer to evolution. Its almost like declaring "f*** the man!" and rebeling against the greater good. If not for the kids, spend the money on the shrinks; as long as you keep paying, theyll be your friend for longer than any normal person will be and serve to keep you out of the mainstream where people know how to live.
01:34am 04/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
115 posts
this is still rather surreal. Can i study you for my thesis einy?
01:35am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3962 posts
if you want, i suppose =P
01:47am 04/12/04 Permalink
caffeinebear
Melbourne, Victoria
917 posts
You'll never get that far without studying first Josh

Are you even IN the psych course yet? :P
01:55am 04/12/04 Permalink
DVE 81
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
481 posts
Good luck b****tits

be f***ed if my taxes are gonna pay for your prosthetic punnani

01:58am 04/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2390 posts
haha spidz it called you a retard.
01:58am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7589 posts
its funny.

there are two drama queens in this thread and both have called me a retard.

if you're going to pay for surgery einy, I suggest you look into a labotomy instead of gender reassignment.
02:11am 04/12/04 Permalink
Fnukle
Brisbane, Queensland
3140 posts
im going to bed now
02:12am 04/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1169 posts
Eds: Nice tits

CAUSE YOU'RE FAT GET IT LOLOL
02:14am 04/12/04 Permalink
hast
Brisbane, Queensland
523 posts
i want to see the look on the guy's face when they find out melissa is a man

though if they can't tell from the way he looks then maybe they won't be able to realise it at all
02:18am 04/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2393 posts
Einstein do we need to remind that you are in no position whatsoever to insult anyone anymore ? for eternity ? You could try and insult someone and they could easily hit back twice as hard by insulting you with the unimaginable. I bet even your old man wont be able to comprehend what a nancy you've turned into.



last edited by Booyah at 02:57:51 04/Dec/04
02:23am 04/12/04 Permalink
Eds
Brisbane, Queensland
6879 posts
spoon, thanks, your mum thinks so too.
02:24am 04/12/04 Permalink
Crudler
Brisbane, Queensland
260 posts
after reading this whole thread im still not sure if the is a hoax or not, comfermation please?
02:41am 04/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2394 posts
It's so real that the so called "Melissa" is giving out her email address to arrange to meet somewhere and take it's participants on the full trip.

Melissa4uNow@hotmail.com


last edited by Booyah at 02:59:44 04/Dec/04
02:48am 04/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
138 posts
since your not going to be using your wang anymore, ill pay you $10 to smash it with a hammer!



also i dare you to start a "pay for my sex change fund" where dumb s**** can donate to a lost caused.
02:48am 04/12/04 Permalink
Crudler
Brisbane, Queensland
261 posts
ill chip in $20 to see some wang get hammer smahsed
02:56am 04/12/04 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
4877 posts
Crudler your name should be Krudler if you were aiming for that simpsons reference :P

but anyways
02:58am 04/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2395 posts
I still think you should rename yourself from "Melissa" to "Nancy".
03:00am 04/12/04 Permalink
Crudler
Brisbane, Queensland
262 posts
no simpsons refrence, i just made it up when i was drunk....much like now
03:01am 04/12/04 Permalink
groydis
Brisbane, Queensland
139 posts
My question is: is this really worth it based on the quality of your life afterward? Gays have a hard enough time being accepted in this society, how are you going to fare?


good point, try being a tranny leso,
s
some chick goes down on you "HEY WHAT THE F*** IS THIS SCAR!"... "oh oh i was masturbating with a knife one night, ya know kinky.. and i stuck the wrong end ..."
03:03am 04/12/04 Permalink
Vorador
Brisbane, Queensland
1230 posts
You know I thought I'd have something meaningful to say here

but really all that comes to mind is "Wow.. just wow."

So.. do what you 'gotta(?)' do I guess
03:10am 04/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5092 posts
loki you are spouting the most bulls*** pseudo scientific crap ever. what year did you drop out of high school?

Sure, as I've said 500 times in this thread before that none of it is really concrete as there is no such f*****g thing as far as this goes.

I think some of you guys fail to realise a lot of the stuff loki is talking about is not just random personal insights, he is actually doing medical subjects at uni...
It's second hand knowledge so there's going to be some 'chinese whispers' to it. i.e. speaking on it as I understood some of it.

Pick up a book and read, there are so many ideas and conceptions of the human psyche, so many different systematic approaches and theories to the ego, super-ego, sub-conscious and conscious mind.

Anything I have said has made just as much sense as anything else someone has said.

quoted for truth...
Boxhead quoting something that basically said the same s*** as I had written only in blunt english.

Spidz saying :
why would insurance or the govt cover medical costs for physical alterations due to a psychiatric disorder?
Again virtually the same path I was talking about from Khel this time
Its a lot of money to spend, and a lot of pain to go through, to realise in the end that it hasn't solved anything, and probably just given you a whole new set of issues to deal with.


Offer some type of -possible- conversation and/or something which wasn't just deflammatory and this forum goes up in arms, it honestly doesn't make any sense.

Sure all the reaction/action and environment s*** is just as flawed as any other theory, it makes sense and it's actually not my f*****g theory.
Hell even my course has gone through some of these theories, I choose to read more into things uni delves into when it interests me, and this was one of them.

I also had a friend who was admitted to a psych unit so I went through quite alot of texts reading about things and trying to understand his position, in the end, all the theories had their strengths and weaknesses, parts that made sense and parts that weren't credible to the situation.

All action regardless of condition occurs within a cycle or because of interaction with a cycle. This can be apllied to every area of science or philosophy; but seems particularly applicable to the behavor and workings of the self-aware mind. Lacking mass requires that these Systems are not traditional systems that we think of, but are more comparitive to the behaviors of energies such as light, sound, and electrical energy. Therefore these systems are likened to applying an electric charge to a huge coiled chain link fence (our brains), having the ability to connect, integrate and transfer their energy to anywhere on the fence. If you had ten electric currents on the same fence they would all be one, seprate, inactive, and yet completely integrated. This is a gross understatement of complexity, keep that in mind though. Only through this seamless integrated network of Systemic Thoughts do we have the ability to defy logic as the process of action, as it exists in nature, (reaction, action, reaction, etc.) only then can we remove both natural logic and reverance for natures customs, a desire to perpetuate a species without advance, and finally remove the hard wiring put in our psyche by millions of menial natural existance. Systemic Thought is not just the precurser of self-aware, conscious existance, it is the very definition.


The Theory as it Applies to Human Emotion and Society
Bleh, there's heaps more that explains it better and that's just one text/theory and a -really- s***** one, and one that's not even credible, but there are credible ones in proper texts/articles/journals that are very similar and/or on the same wavelength.

The main point was, Einy saw what I was saying, and he thought about it and it -possibly- furthered his opinion on the idea of -why- this might be the right decision for him.

Bleh, whatever, I give in, it isn't my own insight and I chose a bad theory to post to 'think' about and didn't explain very well, you're right I'm wrong yada yada yada. get on with it cause I'm tired of trying to explain.

last edited by Loki at 03:24:01 04/Dec/04
03:11am 04/12/04 Permalink
Ice
Brisbane, Queensland
249 posts
I alway's thought that if you had a wang you were male.

last edited by Ice at 03:12:34 04/Dec/04
03:12am 04/12/04 Permalink
Crudler
Brisbane, Queensland
263 posts

hes gona smash it with a hammer
03:20am 04/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3545 posts
lmao

you should see the "Ram Test" thread....
04:19am 04/12/04 Permalink
lmnt
Brisbane, Queensland
1362 posts
i dont get how you can say your a girl in a guys body, and like girls...

listen einstein, the fact is you should know who you are. if your a girl in a guys body and like girls, whatever, thats cool, but wouldnt it make sense not to screw up your body, after all you wont find many girls without your main man.

you should not need to change s***, you already know who you are, be comfortable, you dont need a girls body to remind yourself.

And another point, getting a girls body and dressing up like a girl and being feminine, you know what, girls do that for c***.

either you start munching c*** or stop confusing the hell out of us.

04:20am 04/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
145 posts
22 F*****G PAGES FFS!!!

04:26am 04/12/04 Permalink
reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
3445 posts
I like my penis
04:56am 04/12/04 Permalink
typo
Other International
3789 posts
as I said Einstein you're the biggest soft c*** I know.
04:58am 04/12/04 Permalink
shrapse
Brisbane, Queensland
2914 posts
me too reso
05:19am 04/12/04 Permalink
Fish
Brisbane, Queensland
1014 posts
ok... bit late for this but i'm still on a holiday...
epicThread++

but einy, i'm honestly still not sure if i should congraulate you or what...
05:29am 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3963 posts
typo's insult changed my mind

i wanna be a man now because he said so

can we keep this thread on track please? =P

i don't feel "like a woman" that part was identified afterwards after much research into all sorts of thoughts and emotions strung together

yeah right, i think i'm a girl, so i'll be one

not that simple people, you really can't fathom how deep this little trench goes, but i tried to keep it all to the facts and stay away from the attention whoring LJ. you really do surprise me with the amount of complete s*** you dribble sometimes, absolute disregard for any psychological professional opinion.

i guess the real einstein was a hack too? edison? sigmund freud?

haha, i reaaaaally pity you people if you think this is all so simple and so easy and it's a cry for attention =)
07:15am 04/12/04 Permalink
CSIRAC
Brisbane, Queensland
1254 posts
just read 23 pages of omgggoggles wtfbbq crap.

seriously how (if the transformation goes to plan and you MAY possibly turn out as a passable chick) will you break it to the person that you're, whatever you are. whats your plan? do you intend to lead them on like those crazy soapies?

damn wow. coudlnt get on front page.
08:22am 04/12/04 Permalink
Siltrin
Brisbane, Queensland
296 posts
Transgenders!, Females in disguise!

Sorry, but the word "transformation" suddenly brings out the funny side of this subject (To me, anyway.)


Enistien, you kind of look like that chick out of "True Lies". I think she also played the Mum in home imporvment but probably not. I think you'll make an excelent female and if not, you'll have all your life to feel disgusted with yourself. I hope that didn't come out as harsh.
08:42am 04/12/04 Permalink
X
Brisbane, Queensland
160 posts
All i can say is good luck dude, hopefully nothing goes wrong in the surgery. Unlike most people here im not disgusted nor could i care that your doing this.

Its your decision, your life and do what you wish with it. If we try to convince you to changes it would be as if we were to walk up to a gay person tell him what he does is wrong and tell him that he is deluded.
09:00am 04/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1209 posts
i can only agree with reso and note that i love my penis.
09:01am 04/12/04 Permalink
C0deBasher
Brisbane, Queensland
699 posts

Dr: You could always have these operations to solve the problem.

Einy: Will the guys at QGL wan't to asscosiate with me in any way?

Dr: Probably not.

Einy: A tick in every box.. When can can you start?

:D

last edited by C0deBasher at 09:28:04 04/Dec/04
09:23am 04/12/04 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
3554 posts
this thread is gay
09:57am 04/12/04 Permalink
Goody
Brisbane, Queensland
543 posts
I'm still speachless...
10:14am 04/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
117 posts
are you going to turn into a webcam whore and stick things in your cooter for me?
10:23am 04/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10819 posts
can you post pictures of your boobs when u r finished growing them? *





*provided they are nice and we dont see your head or other body parts
10:24am 04/12/04 Permalink
stinky
Brisbane, Queensland
395 posts
Enistien, you kind of look like that chick out of "True Lies". I think she also played the Mum in home imporvment but probably not. I think you'll make an excelent female and if not, you'll have all your life to feel disgusted with yourself. I hope that didn't come out as harsh.


Jamie Lee Curtis? Man she was f*****g hot when she did that stripper dance in that movie ... if Eieny did that for me, I'd have no choice but to ask him to remove the plug keeping his man-made orifice in shape so that I can ram one in ...
10:43am 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4511 posts
Im glad to finally hear conformation about these rumors a little birdy told me. I'm only about 1/5 through reading the thread, so i actually have some facts before i comment.

Good on you Einy, When i saw you the other week, i thought there was something different about you, your attitude. Also, you'd have to make a decent looking chick, cause F*** you're an ugly bastard :P
11:02am 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7590 posts
Einstein do we need to remind that you are in no position whatsoever to insult anyone anymore ? for eternity ? You could try and insult someone and they could easily hit back twice as hard by insulting you with the unimaginable. I bet even your old man wont be able to comprehend what a nancy you've turned into.
thats the stupidest s*** I have ever read, and considering loki has posted in this thread several times, that's a serious achievement. Basing life decisions on 'insultability' I mean seriously. You really are f*****g brainwashed.

also, instead of using your real name as your online handle, why don't you get something else.

My suggestion: Mrs. Doubtfire.
11:07am 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4512 posts
My sisters name is Melissa, i'll never look at her the same :( Can't you pick a different name?

What about Amber? :)
11:10am 04/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8206 posts
Manlissa
11:12am 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4513 posts
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Tee heee

heheheheehehehehehe, hahahahaahah!

Hehe, that was funneh! :D
11:19am 04/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4718 posts
LOL nF...

it would be as if we were to walk up to a gay person tell him what he does is wrong and tell him that he is deluded.


But they are.....
11:21am 04/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4270 posts
hahaha nf took the words right out of my mouth
11:21am 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4514 posts
I hear thats not all took out of your mouth :P
11:30am 04/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4271 posts
:o

Also a question for einy:

When did you actually decide you wanted to become a "woman".

Before you started going to all the psych's and therapy... orrrr

After starting therapy, possibly from a suggestion made by one of the psych's as a "possible solution" to your condition?
11:34am 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4515 posts
The more i read of the thread, the more insight i'm gaining on what other people believe in etc. I think most of you have some good points, values, beliefs, whatever you want to call it. Non of you are wrong.

I could run on to say, that each to their own. If this is Einstiens choice, then nothing any of you guys say is going to change that, and that it shouldn't bother you anyway because half of you don't really know him, therefore it's not going to affect you in any way.

BUT given, Eistien DID post here, so even though there are some harsh comments in the thread, everyone has a right to their own say. Afterall, it's a public forum. Einstiens decision doesn't affect me in the slightest, why? Because everyone has a right to govern their own life, and he will still be the same person whether he stays male, or is female. I think most of you are forgetting that.


HEY, Lee, why dont you keep your old name and go Leeissa :) Thats nice!
12:20pm 04/12/04 Permalink
dais
Brisbane, Queensland
7089 posts
That is a really s*** name necra.
12:24pm 04/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4516 posts
yes dais
12:26pm 04/12/04 Permalink
typo
Other International
3790 posts
typo's insult changed my mind

i wanna be a man now because he said so


This is a good example of how you live in a strange fantasy land (like we needed anymore proof) of where you just insert stuff that you would really like to be there.

I didnt suggest that you shouldnt chop your donga off. Rather I suggested that you are a soft c*** (in fact one of the biggest soft c**** around), and now we have a reason for your softc***edness

Please if you want to do what god couldnt (remove yourself from the gene pool), Im not going to stop you.



Manlissa


Gold.

----

pussies don't like d****, because pussies get f***ed by d****.

12:58pm 04/12/04 Permalink
existence`
Brisbane, Queensland
4919 posts
good luck man

you got f*****g guts

body of 1 sex, mind and feeling and thoughts of the other.

completely different, so fairly f***ed up..

good luck. i respect you
01:41pm 04/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
146 posts
Einy, a quick question I don't think has been covered in the 25 odd pages of this thread.

Do your parents know? And if so, how do they feel about it?

BTW, this has to be the most refreshed thread in the history of QGL.
01:45pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Slappercx
Brisbane, Queensland
1686 posts
this is some wacked s***. best thread ever i say. we can start a show

There is something about einstein :P
01:55pm 04/12/04 Permalink
koopz
Queensland
5220 posts
Einy gimme my 'phram back you slut
01:58pm 04/12/04 Permalink
defi
Wynnum, Queensland
2102 posts
wow, sure u see it on mtv all the time but f***.

goodluck, hope u got some cash
02:00pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Slappercx
Brisbane, Queensland
1687 posts
just head over and chuck your penis on sold. u dont need it anymore :P
02:02pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5093 posts
why? Because everyone has a right to govern their own life, and he will still be the same person whether he stays male, or is female. I think most of you are forgetting that.
Excluding those who are just there for derogatory flames, I don't think people are forgetting that, it doesn't really effect them (unless they're friends with him), I think they're just trying to point out that it could be a big mistake.

Only question I can really put to that is.. will he really be the same person? He is taking alot of hormones, changing from testosterone driven to oestrogen, he'll likely be more emotional (not like 'himself'), secondly, he'll be 'thinking and behaving like a woman' or trying to (again, not like his old 'self' as you know him to have acted)...

He will change, and infact, you said it yourself
When i saw you the other week, i thought there was something different about you, your attitude.
It'll change his life and his attitudes, whether it's for better or worse, we don't know, but we're warning that if it's for the worse (or just creates another, different, set of problems) that it'd be virtually irreversible.
02:04pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Crizane Tribal
Brisbane, Queensland
287 posts
I'm with lonewolf, i wanna know how your folks feel about it all.

Kudos for having the courage to come out and say something like that on the forum. You're a little battler and i wish you luck.
02:14pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Loki
Brisbane, Queensland
5094 posts
I got interested in the Jamie Lee Curtis thing because I've heard that before, so I did a quick read, nothing credible since it was off google but the majority seem to suggest it's just -rumour-...
Here's one that had more going into Einy's kinda situation.

Jamie Lee Curtis has one X chromosome and one Y chromosome. For those of you rusty in biology, XY means that she is chromosomally, literally, biologically male. What Jamie Lee wasn't born with were the receptors for her male hormones, so she went back to the genetic sexual default appearing female. Her penis and testicles were never able to be developed.

"How did she get such great tits?" I hear you wonder aloud. At puberty, the testes start to produce a large amount of the male hormone testosterone but, in the absence of its receptor, this has no effect. However, testosterone is converted to estrogen, and so normal to enthusiastic breast development occurs. It's not uncommon for those with complete AIS to have rather large breasts. There's also little to no pubic or axillary hair, and of course, no periods, as there is no uterus present to produce a lining which to shed.

Often a "woman" who has AIS, while genetically a male, is completely, aesthetically female. AIS is often not discovered until puberty, when the person does not start to menstruate and a gynecological examination reveals the syndrome, and the fact that "she" has undescended testes internally rather than ovaries. Many of these AIS people also have short vaginal-type canals of half the normal length of a true vagina, and require surgery if they feel they need to lengthen the partial "vagina" for satisfactory intercourse.

But that's a whole lot different than being forced by mutilation at birth to live one's life as a female simply because your genitals looked a little off to your attending physician at your birth. Chop! Chop! Off goes the penis, neatly shaped, shortened into a cute little clitoris. It sounds ridiculous, frankly atrocious, the stuff of horror stories, and yes... some form of genital reassignment surgery is done to about five infants every day in North America. This often occurs when partial, rather than complete, androgen insensitivity is the case. The genetic abnormality in the receptor produces an incomplete, but not total, block of male hormones. In this case, the child is usually born with ambiguous genitaliameaning it looks as if they have either a very short penis, or a very long clitoris and likely nothing resembling testiclesyetor maybe never. The child may be brought up as either a male or a female.

What happens when these children grow up? Usually not much until puberty. But puberty is the big dealthat's where the hormonal fireworks tend to begin. Dating, opposite sex attraction, same sex attraction, development of breasts or not, facial hair or not, changing voices, changing texture of hair, height, weight, genitalia, and so much more. All these confusing body issues are hard enough on a person of a decided gender, but imagine the pressures on a person who has already been met with decidedly ambiguous genitalia, or has been tailor made permanently by the medical community to have genitals that simply don't fit with one's internal feelings of gender. You can plainly envision a world of psychological and physical problems when faced with the simple act of dating. And that's just the beginning.

Of course there are many other types of syndromes and congenital medical conditions that affect humans and can create an intersex type of situation. The ones I have covered are only the more common ones. Regardless, they can all create a real identity problem in a world that seems to only allow for two choices in gender: male or female.
Ok, kinda a little different because it's more being talking about something like a male getting the 'chop' at birth and being turned into a female when they're really meant to be male (for example)...

last edited by Loki at 14:20:30 04/Dec/04
02:19pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Skitza
Brisbane, Queensland
6050 posts
Jamie Lee Curtis has one X chromosome and one Y chromosome. For those of you rusty in biology, XY means that she is chromosomally, literally, biologically male.


http://users.bigpond.net.au/Skitza/damn.jpg

But she is so hot in True Lies, I call shenaningans.
02:42pm 04/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8207 posts
Yeah its the presence of atleast one Y chromosome that determines your sex, atleast your genotypic sex.

Its presence switches on the code for maleness, though the code itself isn't actually on the Y chromosome. Male hormones make you a man, and if there is a problem with those signal pathways (low androgen production, faulty detectors), you default to female. Dosing up on female hormones themselves won't make you female, its more the lack of male hormones or something preventing thier detection.

Thats why things don't get messed up when you are gestating in your mum and shes hopped out on hormones, but chicks who take androgen like drugs get pretty manly fast. Also, chicks who work out lots (like olympic atheletes) can up-regulate their androgen production without outside influence and halt their menstrual cycle and so forth.
03:08pm 04/12/04 Permalink
acetame
Brisbane, Queensland
927 posts
One great man seems to be forgotten in this whole ordeal lets see what he has to say...





http://kj.ausgamers.com/einy.jpg

last edited by /(ceTAME at 15:17:15 04/Dec/04
03:16pm 04/12/04 Permalink
casa
Thimes
Brisbane, Queensland
855 posts

what a f*****g f**ot
now that you're a woman i guess DC will be able to get some.
03:34pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Erik-the-Red
Brisbane, Queensland
1673 posts
VALMORPHENIZE!!!!

sorry einy, had to after the "transformation" comments.

good luck to you mate. hope you get things sorted and are happier this way
03:59pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Dopefish
Brisbane, Queensland
215 posts
04:42pm 04/12/04 Permalink
caffeinebear
Melbourne, Victoria
918 posts
I can't wait till you get your first bikini wax =D
08:30pm 04/12/04 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
1683 posts
i think einstien has left the thread
08:47pm 04/12/04 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
4882 posts
Yeah, I'll post in here again.
08:58pm 04/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8209 posts
I wouldn't be surprised if this was just an elaborate scheme to get back at ember.

I mean seriously, if you girlfriend dumps you for your best friend, how do you get her back?

Sleep with her best friend? Not really personal enough. Her mum? Getting there. But the absolute best way to do it is to change your sex, and get you ex-best friend to dump her for YOU.

Its almost too brilliant.
09:42pm 04/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7225 posts
^^ reminds me of some video I saw on the interweb. girl dumps guy, guy calmy says "I'm going to f*** your mum" and proceeds to go out with the girl's mum.
09:47pm 04/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1054 posts
I loved that movie Whoop.
09:56pm 04/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7592 posts
i don't where everyone came up with this Jamie Lee-Curtis stuff, the b**** has kids, I'd consider that to be pretty strong evidence she is female.
09:58pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10827 posts
jamie lee curtis makes one hawt man
09:58pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
432 posts
jamie lee curtis's kids are all adopted.

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/jamie.htm


The second fact that supports the rumor is Ms. Curtis' own children: They're adopted. Though couples opt for adoptive children over natural progeny for any number of reasons, it is true the operation necessary to correct dual gendering in a female infant would leave her unable to bear children.


10:08pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
433 posts
jamie lee curtis makes one hawt man


maybe. but she is a f*****g mess still.

not one stage of her career/age have i found her to be hawt, she has always been a mess.
10:09pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1545 posts
i don't where everyone came up with this Jamie Lee-Curtis stuff, the b**** has kids, I'd consider that to be pretty strong evidence she is female.
A d o p t i o n ?
10:09pm 04/12/04 Permalink
ara
Sydney, New South Wales
565 posts
I wouldn't be surprised if this was just an elaborate scheme to get back at ember.

I mean seriously, if your girlfriend dumps you for your best friend, how do you get her back?

Sleep with her best friend? Not really personal enough. Her mum? Getting there. But the absolute best way to do it is to change your sex, and get your ex-best friend to dump her for YOU.

Its almost too brilliant.


Too brilliant that it just might work.
10:32pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8829 posts
I have always thought Jamie Lee Curtis looked a bit manish. Her shoulders are just a bit too broad and theres something about her legs, theres definately a hint of man in there.
11:57pm 04/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3964 posts
if you ignore the hair, and flatten her cheeks a bit, she's very much a man

and she looks only a little bit more cut and polished than regular trannies who have gone through the procedure properly

this image of manb****** the media has fed into your head is grossly incorrect

i could throw a whole heap of pictures of post-transition transsexuals, and you would be calling me a bulls*** artist

*shrug*

people are either open or they aren't

spidz is someone who isn't, he'll just keep getting smacked down and turned around and he'll flatly be arrogant and stubborn about the whole thing no matter what, i don't blame him, thats just who he is
12:04am 05/12/04 Permalink
Wasabi
Brisbane, Queensland
766 posts

No offence to you einstien/melissa, But I still call bull s***. I may be wrong but oh well. If you are serious good luck to you
12:12am 05/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8211 posts
If she has AIS, i doubt it'd give her any manish features. From that brief description of AIS it sounds like you either look manish with some messed up genitalia, or like a woman with some messed up genitalia. Also, she doesn't appear to have any evidence of corrective surgery.
12:30am 05/12/04 Permalink
Corrupt
Brisbane, Queensland
898 posts
* N U K E D *

By Khel
12:49am 05/12/04 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
1235 posts
Hi, what did I miss?....oh

So....you still like games right???
12:49am 05/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8831 posts
You've already got a thread about that book, stop pimping it already.
12:57am 05/12/04 Permalink
Corrupt
Brisbane, Queensland
899 posts
no
01:02am 05/12/04 Permalink
necra
Brisbane, Queensland
4517 posts
Yay, threads starting to die.... oh wait.. my post
10:57am 05/12/04 Permalink
Skitza
Brisbane, Queensland
6053 posts
I think its needs a sticky.
11:06am 05/12/04 Permalink
TicMan
Brisbane, Queensland
114 posts
26 pages later and all I can say is good luck Lee.

Obviously you've done the thinking and research into it and have committed yourself to taking this path in your life, takes guts (balls isn't appropiate I think) to do that.

And btw, when your all done.. I don't want to see any spoot threads of you :)
02:13pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
2 posts
Yes i'll grow breasts as if i were a normal pubescent female, with a slight limitation. It all goes off my mum's genes minus a cup size.

So as a guide, i'll naturally grow a pair of small C cups.


Your mum has D cups? Can we see the boobies please? :)

And btw, when your all done.. I don't want to see any spoot threads of you :)


Yeah he does .. why else would he bring the idea up? EH??



Heh .. but yeah .. Good luck and s***, if you've gotta do it you've gotta do it!
03:24pm 05/12/04 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
1688 posts
or maybe it's his plan to get possibly the largest thread in the history of qgl!
05:07pm 05/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3558 posts
Either way this is fkn hilarious.
05:21pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
10843 posts
and terribly scary
05:24pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10111 posts
or maybe it's his plan to get possibly the largest thread in the history of qgl!
Anime piccie thread was 1000 plus til some admin deleted it by 'mistake'
05:27pm 05/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3559 posts
http://qgl.ausforums.com/index.php/439207?agn=thread&id=2121011

lol wtf m8 ^^ haha!1 meow meow katzzz >_< disconectedssdd google.com
05:30pm 05/12/04 Permalink
hef
Queensland
1222 posts
hi.
06:19pm 05/12/04 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
1706 posts
See ! as a pyscotech, I saw this coming. Thats why RQR wouldn't let you in.
Ok,
there was more to it than that.
You not being willing to give your seat up on a bus to an old person who was standing clinched it tho

Seriously tho (trying hard) man (for the now)
do you really want to cut your d*** off?? Why not sell it on ebay in Germany ? You could use that to pay for your op an come out with profit (I was going to say "a weiner" but you know, it wouldn't be accurate
06:34pm 05/12/04 Permalink
HERMITech
Brisbane, Queensland
1707 posts
^^ much beer consumed, mebe no sense, just lots of offense

Sorry (sorta)
06:35pm 05/12/04 Permalink
shrapse
Brisbane, Queensland
2915 posts
hef your website sucks
06:36pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
3 posts
do you really want to cut your d*** off?? Why not sell it on ebay in Germany ? You could use that to pay for your op an come out with profit (I was going to say "a weiner" but you know, it wouldn't be accurate


I think he kinda needs it .. don't they use it and shape it into the punani?
07:36pm 05/12/04 Permalink
axe
Brisbane, Queensland
774 posts
just passing thru.
good luck einy, hope your journey lives up to expectations.

hi syco
08:07pm 05/12/04 Permalink
dynamite
Brisbane, Queensland
892 posts
Oh and those of you who think i know nothing about women have another thing coming to you =P


Lol! From this thread: http://qgl.ausforums.com/index.php/439207?agn=thread&id=2121011 .

Ironic
08:12pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
827 posts
I just want to post in this thread again. To keep it going.
09:43pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3965 posts
sorry i've been working all weekend, no opportunity to whore it up some more kat-style =P

in the end it's the same old einstein except with tits, if you really want to get simple about it

all the other psychological s*** that's going on, that's my problem to deal with and the specialists to interpret... don't worry your little heads about it or you'd be here forever trying to pick my decision to pieces

is there any other mature questions i can answer fairly simply before this thread drops off into oblivion?

(stay away from the psych stuff, you really don't want to know)
09:56pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
970 posts
Well since its been asked 3 times (at least) and ya still havent answered Ill ask.

What was the reaction of your family to your decision?

10:17pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4733 posts
I notice the name change, and was wanting to know are you actively wearing female clothes on a daily basis now? is that part of the slow transition process I was reading about in one of the info sites? If so have you found it hard/easy/dangerous? etc..

What was the reaction of your family to your decision?
yeh that too, I asked that ages ago..

last edited by Psycho! at 22:19:07 05/Dec/04
10:18pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Nakor
Brisbane, Queensland
2652 posts
What was the reaction of your family to your decision?


hes also answered this question a few times from what i remember reading >< -> his mum is distraught, his dad is supportive
10:22pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
4 posts
hi syco


Hey Axe .. ltns ... how are ya?

.... off topic :) ....

10:22pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
972 posts
Ah ok I musta missed that...not exactly a short read this thread :)
10:24pm 05/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4276 posts
Could try mine:

Also a question for einy:

When did you actually decide you wanted to become a "woman".

Before you started going to all the psych's and therapy... orrrr

After starting therapy, possibly from a suggestion made by one of the psych's as a "possible solution" to your condition?
10:56pm 05/12/04 Permalink
hef
Queensland
1225 posts
hef your website sucks


that wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that there is nothing on there would it? Great observation buddy! My hat goes off too you.
11:07pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3966 posts
I notice the name change, and was wanting to know are you actively wearing female clothes on a daily basis now? is that part of the slow transition process I was reading about in one of the info sites? If so have you found it hard/easy/dangerous? etc..

I've been going "out" regularly, but not fulltime because that's just plain silly. I've basically stuck to a couple gigs a month out with friends, so i have something substantial to show to the psych that i'm serious when january rocks around. (for those that missed it, it will be my last eval, i've passed everything else, he's just concerned i haven't been crossdressing enough... idiot)

When i actually start looking like a chick with a bit of effort and pills, then i'll be going out more on a day-to-day basis... getting used to stuff and generally getting a feel for things.

To date: my little outings have felt a little nervous, but not dangerous. I found 80% of the comments and reactions were good, some even really really good =D That's not too bad considering what i look like now.
When did you actually decide you wanted to become a "woman".

Before you started going to all the psych's and therapy... orrrr

After starting therapy, possibly from a suggestion made by one of the psych's as a "possible solution" to your condition?

I decided i wanted to match the body to the mind in about april or thereabouts. I'd been talking to another girl about the whole process, and what made her switch and the like. Basically i was relating more and more to her, so i had to find out wtf exactly was going wrong. I did my research and found out that i was suffering this rare disorder (from early childhood, as long as i can remember) and so i researched more and made some appointments to see the relevant specialists.

Very basically, i had all this made up in my mind when i was 6, which is my first memory of thinking i actually was a girl, playing with the other girls. I only found out exactly what was going on recently.

Noone talked me into this, nor were any suggestions or hints dropped. It's just something that's always been, and will be.
11:25pm 05/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2410 posts
you're gonna piss sitting down now ? would someone please think of the wall decoration !
11:49pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Ice
Brisbane, Queensland
250 posts
Very basically, i had all this made up in my mind when i was 6, which is my first memory of thinking i actually was a girl, playing with the other girls. I only found out exactly what was going on recently.


you have a dong. your a bloke.
11:58pm 05/12/04 Permalink
Nick
Brisbane, Queensland
458 posts
* N U K E D *

By reso
12:01am 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7600 posts

oh my.

12:07am 06/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7257 posts
Don't you hate when it feels so wrong clicking on them, but you can't help yourself.


speak for yourself. I didn't click them.
12:08am 06/12/04 Permalink
supreme
Brisbane, Queensland
2239 posts
f**n hell, i dont post here for a while and this forum has just blown me away,

anyway, just make sure youre like 342542362453 billion x infintiy % sure u wana go through with this.

you have "balls" (haha) for posting this here
12:39am 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3967 posts
Better link, ripped from the SA drama thread

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/TSgallery1.html

Successful MTF transitions. Not all of them are awesome, but then again there's FAR uglier people in the world.

Going by my facial structure, you could expect something along these lines for my end product.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/Roxanne2s.jpg
12:43am 06/12/04 Permalink
Habib
Brisbane, Queensland
67 posts
hmm... interesting how a lot of those that 'transitioned' are working in traditionally male areas (engineers or in IT)
12:54am 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7601 posts
not a particularly nice end product.

i guess its a limited consumer market though....
12:56am 06/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1567 posts
Post-op Einy is hot, you all lews
12:57am 06/12/04 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
7258 posts
bahahah a nun had it done? as if god wouldn't smite her.

some of them are hittable, but then what do I know.
01:43am 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
865 posts
some of them are hittable


...but most of them are hideos.

worst...

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/StephanieLanghoff2s.jpg



best...

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/Harisu2s.jpg

good luck buddy. perhaps you could get plastic surgery to eliminate the obvious male jawline. that seems to be the prominent giveaway most of the time.
02:47am 06/12/04 Permalink
evıs
Brisbane, Queensland
4895 posts
tee hee I posted in this thread again :D
02:50am 06/12/04 Permalink
got bean
Brisbane, Queensland
1212 posts
I wouldn't hit it
02:51am 06/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2413 posts
I'd hit it so hard i'd make sure it will never get up again =(
03:34am 06/12/04 Permalink
Superform
Netherlands
3555 posts
TEH GOOGLES...!!! THEY DO NOTHING!!!!!!
08:03am 06/12/04 Permalink
Astroboy
Germany
1514 posts
I think it is time for the lock....

I think it was time at about post -1
09:02am 06/12/04 Permalink
acetame
Brisbane, Queensland
930 posts
what about, your future job prospects ? ... im sure employers are gonna be a bit hesitant in hiring you...

but im sure it doesnt really matter to you

but it should... im with dice, get hypnotised to cancel it out of your brain...
09:48am 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3968 posts
they'll have to pick me first acetame

what makes you think they'll know otherwise? =P
10:08am 06/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1572 posts
Adam's apple + square chin = "Looks like a bloke"
10:20am 06/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4734 posts
Does the transition and drugs that you will be taking change the 'pitch' of your voice?

Maybe one or two on that page looked passable but really when you see the total package, movements and mannerisms in real life, I reckon it would be fairly safe to guess 'something not quite right' with this girl. Some of the 'women' on that site just cry out 'man' immediately. That Roxanne, the one you reckon you might end up looking like, well when you have a look at her gallery, some of the parties she has pics posted from its painfully obvious these are guys dressed up a girls. Bone structure?, s*** one of them look like a prop!


I think the bottom line is in their head they beleive they are women and I guess it doesn't matter to them that they look so blokey and strange. They probably beleive they look great. Same way a person suffering from anorexia 'believes' they are still overweight even with the end product looking back at them from a mirror.

Still they all look pretty happy in the pics and they are seeking out their own kind to mingle with so I guess thats all that counts. Plus any guy who knows the 'girls' history and still wants a relationship with them also has big issues IMO.

10:35am 06/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1574 posts
10:58am 06/12/04 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
8105 posts

F*** me I finally read though all this thread....

Really I don't see the point - you're paying thousands of dollars to go from an ugly male loser to being an ugly female loser - things aren't really going to change all that much. I think you take yourself WAY too seriously, in that you're really doing this because the way people treat you doesn't line up with the way you feel inside - that occurs I would say in about.... hmm... 100 f*****g % of people. You have too much time and too much money on your hands, thats what it all comes down to. Just like all those oxygen wasters in hollywood who get surgery all the time.

Still I must agree that its a good thing you are leaving the gene pool.

Best of luck! :)

last edited by AnaRoT at 11:35:12 06/Dec/04
11:33am 06/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4735 posts
Still I must agree that its a good thing you are leaving the gene pool.


To some that might seem like a cruel comment but well I thnk Melissa is going to have a life filled with cruel comments, stares and inuendos. Still if she can weather the storm and be happy that's what matters I guess.

As for gene pool stuff maybe this is natural selection at work. Selective aspects of the species being weaned out via this type of procreation ellimination?

Im off from this thread for now, I'll check back when I see a new thread with an update. Hope all your treatments proceed safely, dude or is it dudette?

:)

last edited by Psycho! at 11:40:50 06/Dec/04
11:40am 06/12/04 Permalink
Zak
UK
980 posts
Just found time to read this whole bloody thread. It's been an emotional journey, paved with much frustration and laughter.

Good luck to you, it takes guts to be so open about this. I hope it's really what you want amd that you have taken enough time to consider the full rammifications. If so and you are still committed, don't listen to anyone else.

I loved this from Irhabi about ten pages ago...

"all you people supporting him/her/it and tell everyone who doesnt think this is right off, i have a question...what if he/she/it "hooks up" with you..and doesnt tell you till after? then what...i imagin you all be pritty pissed....

i just thinking about it makes me rofl,
and yes i relise he/she/it said he likes chicks but who knows he/she/it mite get curious"

This one is for you dude. Scroll down about 2/3 of the way where it says in bold type "Warning to all guys" - http://www.tuckermax.com/disturbingconversation.html

last edited by Zak at 12:20:02 06/Dec/04

last edited by Zak at 12:20:39 06/Dec/04
12:19pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3969 posts
Adam's apple + square chin

That square chin is only really obvious if the previous incarnation of the girl in question looked like strex. My jaw isn't THAT heavy, though it's not perfect either. Adam's apple is a cheap and quick op to have it shaved down, another poor indication.
Does the transition and drugs that you will be taking change the 'pitch' of your voice?

Not much, most of it is dependant on how much effort the person wants to go to. I have speech therapy booked on wednesday, it's basically learning how to sing pretty much. Eventually you just will not pick the voice (as long as i stick to my guns and practice practice practice)

Another point psycho brought up is that all these trannies believe themselves to be something that they aren't... I 100% agree with you. Most transsexual females are completely delusional and kooky in the head, so they aren't aware they are making themselves look really obvious or generally overacting to the point it's obvious again. I'm a realist, nor am i insane like so many before me. I'm not trying to be something i'm not, nor do i have this fantasy in my head of what i am... i'm just going to be me and only me and take things as they come. As for ridicule, how is that any different to what i already get? what i already got in the past? nothing's changed, it's still derogatory comments aimed at lowering my self esteem except the topic is slightly different. No loss there, i'm sure i'll handle it =P
Really I don't see the point - you're paying thousands of dollars to go from an ugly male loser to being an ugly female loser - things aren't really going to change all that much. I think you take yourself WAY too seriously, in that you're really doing this because the way people treat you doesn't line up with the way you feel inside - that occurs I would say in about.... hmm... 100 f*****g % of people. You have too much time and too much money on your hands, thats what it all comes down to.

You forget, for the 50th time, i'm not doing this for anyone else but me, why should i care? I'm going through this so i can be what i am, instead of pretending i'm something i'm not. As for time and money, i have neither. I'm doing this anyway and i'll get around to the "chop" when i can. Lots of other transsexuals don't get their SRS at the minimum 3 year point because of the price, it's not realistic to expect them to nor expect it of me.

Apart from that big operation many many years down the track, it really isn't that expensive, it still works out cheaper than many hundreds of hours of therapy.
12:48pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
9901 posts
If Einy turns out to be a honey bunny I bar first dibs at tapping him.
12:58pm 06/12/04 Permalink
supreme
Brisbane, Queensland
2240 posts
how much is the chopy chop
01:01pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
9902 posts
Jesus, just had to change forum options to show 100 replies per page. This thread is raping my bandwidth.

8-)
01:05pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3970 posts
$18,000 for the operation in australia at the specialised institute in melbourne.

substatially less if i go to thailand, but i'm not letting some dirty country near me with a knife just for a few bucks saved and a hollywood badger. I'm not terribly fond of waking up without a kidney

(got my priorities right huh =))
01:15pm 06/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1952 posts
$18,000


holy s***. i hope its worth it
01:23pm 06/12/04 Permalink
got bean
Brisbane, Queensland
1215 posts

Einy is only getting a clit because he can't get it any other way :p
01:27pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3562 posts
I find your sig vulgar and offensive. Please change it.
01:28pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3971 posts
i find you vulgar and offensive, please refrain from posting

there, now we're even =)

anyone else need questions answering? please to be keeping the trolling and backward thinking in irc, i'll happily banter with you all day in there
01:32pm 06/12/04 Permalink
acetame
Brisbane, Queensland
932 posts
also did you answer the question about how your family feels about all of this ?

01:33pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3972 posts
nakor answered you, because i've already mentioned it countless times

i was always the black duck in my family, hence my moving out when i was 15. technically i considered myself to have no parents before i told them, so i had nothing to lose.

but to save b****ing and your searching, my mum is in denial and refuses to acknowledge anything but my existence, my father is supportive of my decision and will help in any way he can. Not bad for a redneck truckie huh
01:38pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3563 posts
how much is a total frontal lobotomy?
01:46pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4278 posts
I think thats worth finding out for sure!
01:51pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3975 posts
about as much as it costs for testicle implants

i said take it to irc, stick
01:52pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4279 posts
Oh dear lord...

Have to agree with whats been said about most of the people on that site...

Theres only a very few than can pull off making a decent looking female, and it seems they are the ones that were born with like a mini weiner or something and looked fairly feminine already.

The one you posted looks half convincing in the original pic, but inside he/she/it clearly looks like a man in a wig to me :/ The body and jaw shape is just all wrong.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/GwenSmith2.jpg
I think this guy is in contention for the worst... he/she looks like a guy with long hair to me with makeup on :/



You still think its worth id say at least 25 grand to do all this and most likely end up looking like a man in drag :S
02:06pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3976 posts
i already have an image thanks to some people and concept sketchers and a lot of forethought of the worst possible outcome

i can live with it, everyone else can go jump =)

of course a lot of care and a bit of luck and i'll manage the the pic i posted easily, you'd have to REALLY be looking to even notice
02:12pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4281 posts
You have to agree though, the pic I posted in my previous post, theres clearly something not right there.

If she was born female shes been beaten severly with the ugly stick or taken an assload of steroids...


If you have concept sketches... post em up, I wanna see!

Oooh i just thought of something else im curious about, if the hormones allow you to naturally... well lets say non-surgically grow boobs, do the mammary glands develop as well allowing u to produce milk (or whatever makes u able to produce milk)?

last edited by rubba-chikin at 14:19:56 06/Dec/04
02:14pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3977 posts
Of course i agree, but i don't look like khel, nor do i look like strex...

Don't stress your little heads, you won't be looked at strangely in the street for talking to me =P

And regarding boobs; No i haven't looked into that part, i would say probably, but i really can't say for sure. Maybe this falls under the "fetish question" category.

last edited by Melissa at 14:30:13 06/Dec/04
02:28pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3564 posts
I wouldn't have talked to you before, not gonna talk to you now;)

Also, I don't even know what irc is dude.
02:30pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10114 posts
Don't stress your little heads, you won't be looked at strangely in the street for talking to me
Stick has got the right idea...
02:32pm 06/12/04 Permalink
steve0
Brisbane, Queensland
268 posts
$18,000? F***!!! I shouldn;t have got that car!....

Manissa, you say that you are getting the op to be what you are...

Can I ask what makes a man, a man?

A D*** comes to mind... (allways)
02:37pm 06/12/04 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
1668 posts
what does the $18,000 include ?

therapy ? surgery ? trachyshave ? etc etc ?
02:47pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3978 posts
Just the op

Other little bits and pieces will cost about 1k a pop on top of that figure, and i already get my counselling through medicare.

Maybe 23-25 total to get a full miriam style workover?

I'm not that vain though, i'll stick to the things that give people away first. Voice, mannerisms, all the tricky stuff you wouldn't have even considered.
03:04pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Chakas
Brisbane, Queensland
118 posts
how much is a total frontal lobotomy?


Interesting point, you have to look at all your options after all.
03:49pm 06/12/04 Permalink
steve0
Brisbane, Queensland
270 posts
I'll stick to modding my guns. (dont mod cars or pc's)

I'll leave 'Major Ian Shaffa'(my c***) just where he is!!!
04:27pm 06/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2416 posts
You want to turn into a woman... oooooooooooook...

AND PAY 25K ?????

I mean it was always going to be expensive but just having to think about it makes me feel even more proud of my jaw line and my poking machine :P
05:10pm 06/12/04 Permalink
afro
Brisbane, Queensland
179 posts
for the events so far i think this thread needs cliff notes:P
so who's goin to post:P
05:22pm 06/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9387 posts
well, women do tend to spend a lot of money of dumb s***, so I guess hes on the way...
05:42pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Trin
Brisbane, Queensland
2009 posts
Einy is only getting a clit because he can't get it any other way :p

Should we be expecting a thread of your own like this soon bean?
05:43pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
5 posts
$18,000 for the operation in australia at the specialised institute in melbourne.

substatially less if i go to thailand, but i'm not letting some dirty country near me with a knife just for a few bucks saved and a hollywood badger. I'm not terribly fond of waking up without a kidney


I saw a docco on foxtel the other day that was looking at surgery in some Asian place like Bangkok or Hong Kong where they have top quality American certified surgeons who do things like breast implants for $1500 instead of the $5k or so in other places .. apparently they're all really good doctors/surgeons etc and do a great job .. maybe you should have a look at that?
05:56pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
6 posts
Oh yeah .. and

http://www.roxiware.com/~roxanne/photos/vday2004/images/DSCN1242_JPG.jpg

looks like a girl??? on what planet? heh


last edited by Syco at 18:01:47 06/Dec/04
05:58pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4283 posts
Hey whats the lump on your neck... uh oh!
06:24pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
866 posts
hahaha, yea, his/her neck is about as discreet as playing hide-the-poo in someones pillow
06:34pm 06/12/04 Permalink
slap69
Brisbane, Queensland
330 posts
I had a word to some up this thread... what the hell was it... Ah, yeh, it's written right there on my shirt.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/matt1000/iusedtobeagirl.jpg

06:37pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4285 posts
playing hide-the-poo in someones pillow


ROFL, I've never heard that before, made me chortle out loud :D
06:40pm 06/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2420 posts
hahaha is that really you matt ? now way !
06:44pm 06/12/04 Permalink
DigitaL
Brisbane, Queensland
1769 posts
580+ posts, f*** redading that.

can someone explain whats gone on in this thread in the next post?
07:41pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
829 posts
I want post 600 but I reckon I'll miss it so I guess I'll have to be happy with post #590.

This thread is dying. I guess 30 pages does that to any thread.

Edit:
Basically einstein(sp?) is becoming a woman. You can basically skim read through most of the thread. I caught it at 18 pages and even though that took me ages to read it was worth it because now I have a greater understanding of the situation. Also there is much comedy gold in those pages so that makes it worthwhile.

last edited by Triamks at 19:50:24 06/Dec/04
07:47pm 06/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1957 posts
post the concept of what u would look like einy/mel
07:53pm 06/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1360 posts
OMFG! I just saw steveo's post about 'having a fake-c***'. I've laughing solid for the last 5 minutes :D

Einy you are one f***ed in the head guy. But u obviously dont realize it.

TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR U PAW SCHIZO C***!

Here u are a dude who is having delusions about being a chick. So you go on one of the most male chauvinistic forums in Australia which is frequented by small minded CS playing c***ards ... (like mehself :p ) and u declare that you want to pay $ to get irreversibly mutilated into a ugly lesbo slut who will have a head like 'dropped pie', cabonosi tits and a 'meat sock' for a beaver(Im sure the lezzies will love licking out that 'pizza'!).

Dude you are delusional! Go see a shrink have a coke, smile and shut the f*** up.
08:06pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3979 posts
^^

sounds like mental patient lol
08:23pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Pharcyde
Kilos
Brisbane, Queensland
3940 posts
FOKKIN CMAPRE!@#!
08:24pm 06/12/04 Permalink
jmr
Brisbane, Queensland
3745 posts
actually i think it will be more like a smashed crab rather than a dropped pie. each to his own
08:27pm 06/12/04 Permalink
maxe
Brisbane, Queensland
9391 posts
actually i think it will be more like a smashed crab rather than a dropped pie. each to his own


yes thats all well and good, but will he have teeth that could eat an apple through a white picket fence?
08:43pm 06/12/04 Permalink
mooby
UK
2412 posts
$18k is f*** all. i would have thought itd be more like $180k
08:48pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3980 posts
shut up, wilbur
08:48pm 06/12/04 Permalink
acetame
Brisbane, Queensland
933 posts
600
08:53pm 06/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1361 posts
^ lol manb****!?
08:55pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1171 posts
Ok well unlike the other people here, I will not wish you luck, I hope you mindf*** yourself on pills they feed you, I also hope you die on the op table when you get it done.

You're a f*****g moron for claiming any of this s*** on medicare, I can't believe they even f*****g let you. You're a typical f*****g pansy "oh noes life is so hard, people are calling me names, hmm I know I'll eventually start believing what they say is true and convince myself I'm a female" Get f***ed, move to brazil if you wanna do this.

Whoever you end up hooking up with will probably be crushed when you tell them, unloess you tell them when you meet them, for one you would have been lying to them just to get in their pants. You're ugly now, you're gonna be ugly later on, don't fool yourself because no matter how many pills and how much make up you put on, you are still gonna be a skinny pasty white c***wallet, you disgust me to be honest.

Go pay for some therapy ( dont claim it on medicare) and think this through, you say you wont care if people wont accept you, but here we are, people not accepting you before and thus why you started to explore going down this path.

Oh well, you can't go back now, and if I ever see you at a pub with any girl, I'll make sure she knows about it, bit unfair not telling them wouldn't you agree?
09:00pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Tael
Brisbane, Queensland
2480 posts
do the mammary glands develop as well allowing u to produce milk (or whatever makes u able to produce milk)?
Most males have functioning mammary glands and just require nipple stimulation to trigger milk production.

last edited by Tael at 21:02:49 06/Dec/04
09:01pm 06/12/04 Permalink
imitation
Brisbane, Queensland
2351 posts
WOW I TOTALLY MISSED THIS THREAD, CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON THE LAST 600 THREADS OR CAN I SUMMARISE IT IN MY HEAD LIKE THIS

OP - I am becoming a women
2 - What a f*****
3 - 10101 CS is for f*****s
4 - On topic f***
.
.
.
599 - 10101 CS is for f*****s
09:03pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
7 posts
doh .. disregard this post :)

last edited by Syco at 21:05:45 06/Dec/04
09:05pm 06/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8227 posts
Most males have functioning mammary glands and just require nipple stimulation to trigger milk production.


No they need hormones.


last edited by nF at 21:12:43 06/Dec/04
09:07pm 06/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3971 posts

spoon
09:09pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3981 posts
Oh well, you can't go back now, and if I ever see you at a pub with any girl, I'll make sure she knows about it, bit unfair not telling them wouldn't you agree?

what makes you think i wouldn't tell anyone i was going to get involved with? that's about as rude as you're being right now

don't blame me for your inability to cope with your own s***** life
09:15pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Viper119
UK
803 posts
hahaha, its pretty obvious that your the one thats not coping mate.
09:20pm 06/12/04 Permalink
mooby
UK
2414 posts
WOW I TOTALLY MISSED THIS THREAD, CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON THE LAST 600 THREADS OR CAN I SUMMARISE IT IN MY HEAD LIKE THIS


yeah, ditto. i was getting blind on the weekend and missed it all. thank god for monday morn at work.. qgl catch up time.

hahaha, its pretty obvious that your the one thats not coping mate.


0wn3d

last edited by moby at 21:31:03 06/Dec/04
09:21pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3565 posts
don't blame me for your inability to cope with your own s***** life

You really are a tool.
09:22pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1172 posts
"don't blame me for your inability to cope with your own s***** life"

oh wai..HAHAHAHHA, isn't this what you're doing? You're the one who can't cope, crying because people called you a f** 5 years ago and then running off to become a female, I'm not being rude, I'm giving you the truth plain and simple, but if you can't cope with this you can always kill yourself and notify the qgl boards on your plans of doing so.

I can see it now..

You: Hi I'm melissa, I was born a man but liked talking to girls and didnt like football, thus here I am.
Girl: LOL IN YOUR FACE!#@

Next day...

You: Doctor I need to become a man again, POST HASTE
Doctor: LOL IN YOUR FACE!#@
09:23pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3566 posts
^^^lmao
09:24pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3982 posts
i think you missed the part where i said i wasn't ever dating again

find another guilt trip ;)
09:25pm 06/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1363 posts
So Einy, Melissa, Manb****, it!, thing!, sexually confused, selfish immature prick, taxpayers money thief, depressed schizophrenic attention whore... or watever you like to be addressed as.

Are you getting both penis's cut off?
09:28pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1173 posts
So then why bother becoming a female?? I mean I can't see it, if you were gonna stop dating and live a life by yourself then you might aswell have stayed a male and kept the change. The only reason i can see you becoming a female is so you can get in with other girls, but if you weren't going to date then there is no point right?

I hope someone bashes your face before you become a female by law.
What's more is if you were gonna not date then it's pretty pointless getting the chop, you might aswell just cross dress and satisfy your fetish that way.

YES FETISH, because thats all this is.
09:29pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4287 posts
what makes you think i wouldn't tell anyone i was going to get involved with?


Cause unless they are a tranny or so butt ugly its not funny, any normal person is gonna be out the door running away as fast as they could! Hell even the fat ugly people would probably be waddling away really fast...

If for some impossibly incredible reason I couldn't tell and ended up with a SRS person and they didn't tell me, I would be pretty f*****g pissed, I'm not sure what I'd actually do, but I'd probably end up being charged with some kind of criminal behaviour :/

To me they as a male born SRS recipient is NOT and will NEVER be a female in my eyes.


last edited by rubba-chikin at 21:33:53 06/Dec/04
09:32pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3983 posts
yes because it's all about sex, it always is

:rolleyes:
09:35pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7603 posts
don't blame me for your inability to cope with your own s***** life
irony is brilliant.

as for dating, last time I saw this kind of s*** on TV, the dude that became a woman was dating a mentally challenged person whose brain had failed to develop. I guess the shoe really does fit.

as I've said repeatedly, its no good having physical adjustments made to fix a pshychological problem, but ups for being removed from the genepool.

can someone sign booyah and clipto up for this as well?
09:39pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Furgle
720 posts
Paging Jerry Springer
09:39pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1174 posts
then what is it about? well hang on answer this, do you ever wanna have a relationship with a woman/man EVER? If yes then you must except the fact they will wanna have sex.

I just can't see why you won't wake up and smell the f*****g s*** on your finger, THIS WILL ONLY MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR YOU, THINGS WILL NOT GET EASIER, YOU ARE GONNA CRY MORE ABOUT LIFE AFTERWARDS AND YOU'RE GONNA BE F*****G UGLY WITH NO FREINDS WHATSOEVER. Accept the facts, if you can't see that this won't make things easier then you're definately one dumb motherf*****.
09:42pm 06/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4289 posts
yes because it's all about sex, it always is

:rolleyes:


You brought it up, define getting involved with someone...

To me that means relationship.

I was simply responding to the context of discussion at this point in time.
09:45pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8849 posts
yes because it's all about sex


Its not ALL about sex, but obviously sex comes into any sort of intimate relationship you develop with someone. Unless you want to go through life with just a lot of "friends", and that'd be a pretty s***** way of going through life.

600


Not anymore b****, SUCKIT!

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09:48pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
870 posts
SERIOUS QUESTION


If you truly believe in this disorder... i.e. you think you ARE actually a female, just in a male body.... that would mean that others that go through a similar process ARE also female in your eyes, yes?


Just going from what you've said...

you ARE a female, but your body was born male... There are others like you whose bodys were born male, but ARE female.
Does this mean you can be attracted to them - because they're female - even though you know they were born male...?

What I'm trying to say is... if it's good enough for you, is it good enough for potential partners? would you be just as content living and being with another transgender "female" as you would be with someone whose body was born female?
09:53pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3567 posts
Good question.

Would you go out with a transgender, Einstein?
09:55pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7604 posts
you guys are way behind, I asked that question on like page 3. He ignored it then too.
10:04pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Protius
Brisbane, Queensland
2225 posts
Look out Mel, I think bargain wants you.
10:09pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3984 posts
correct bargain, stick

someone actually pulled their brain out of their arse and posed an interesting question

i know what this s*** involves, and just what a person has to go through to get to the end result. i regard them to be as female as someone who was born that way

yes i would date another transgendered person, if i were even interested in dating

maybe some point in the future *shrug*

there's s***loads of them hanging around the wickham and garden city, it wouldn't take much to "get involved" since that sort of trust and understanding relationship is rare for people like us

the majority of transgendered people are also bi, except for the ones that have been gay all their life.

IMO they're the wrong ones to go through with this, not me
10:14pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7605 posts
someone actually pulled their brain out of their arse and posed an interesting question
or you finally chose to answer it.

Post #255

ok, so will you sleep with other shemales?

if you're a lesbian and you're not attracted to guys, yet you completely believe in the entire process then you wouldn't be against forming an intimate relationship with someone in the same circumstance as you? Or would you discriminate against yourself?
ta.
10:18pm 06/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1365 posts
^^ I wish you would pull your brain out of your arse and stop feeding your mental illness and desire for attention and .. f*** off

last edited by sLaps_Forehead at 22:21:08 06/Dec/04
10:19pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7606 posts
hey!
10:20pm 06/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1962 posts
Don't abuse other users.
10:26pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Hashy
Netherlands
1577 posts
Motion to ban Slaps_forehead for being a f***tard and having a triumph sig
10:28pm 06/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3568 posts
This may have already been asked as well, Einstein... it has taken you twenty something years to get to this decision (or however long it took). You don't think you might change your mind in another 10 years, 20 years?

I guess you can't deny that it is possible, and surely you would realise therefore that this may be a very regretable decision.

Have you seen the fashion from the 80's? People thought they looked good back then... and what about that whole safari outfit phase... seemed like a good idea at the time... fortunately clothes are easy to change.
10:33pm 06/12/04 Permalink
sLaps_Forehead
Brisbane, Queensland
1366 posts
Motion to ban Hashy for being a c***ard and having a wank sig.

P.S whathaf**dididotou and triumph roks!

goeatac***
10:33pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3985 posts
This may have already been asked as well, Einstein... it has taken you twenty something years to get to this decision (or however long it took). You don't think you might change your mind in another 10 years, 20 years?

took me 20 years to realise that i wasn't a mental job nutcase and there are others out there like me, until recently i had no clue about it or what it even involved

a door was opened because of someone, and they didn't even fill my head with crap. they were simply answering the questions i had, as well as answering the feelings i had without saying anything

i knew i was a girl when i was small, i only found out early this year that i actually could be one
10:36pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
871 posts
the majority of transgendered people are also bi, except for the ones that have been gay all their life.

IMO they're the wrong ones to go through with this, not me

WHAT!?!?

Why are YOU calling them gay!!?? If they're 'truly females' (you should understand more than anyone supposedly), wouldn't they be STRAIGHT!!??

They're in the wrong?? more in the wrong than you?? How can you give your case more weight than theirs? Likeing males is what normal females usually do!!...

IMO, both situations are as wrong as each other... I don't know how the f*** you've managed to convince youself that your case is 'right' if theirs isn't...

If anyone should be supporting them, i would have thought it would be you. By discrediting them, saying that they're in the wrong because they like men, you're discrediting YOURSELF and giving YOUR decision less validity - because if, acording to you, you CAN actually be female in a male body, you're doing exactly the same f*****g thing as them.

10:48pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3986 posts
look, if i talk in my terms, i get attacked, if i talk in your terms, i get attacked

stop trying to find ways to twist s*** around, you know exactly what i mean so stop being such a pedantic prat
10:52pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
872 posts
i only found out early this year that i actually could be one


It looks to me as though you're still convincing yourself. If you KNEW you were a girl, which is what you'd f*****g hope you'd be thinking before you cut off your penis, wouldn't you be that set in your thinking that you'd say things like "I only found out early this year that i actually am one"?

This is the most unnerving thing I can think of, and to read your less than 100% convinced comments is truly disturbing.

last edited by bargain at 22:59:17 06/Dec/04
10:57pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
873 posts
I'm not trying to attack you dude, I'm just totally baffled.

ok... I see what you mean by 'gay'... you're speaking in my terms so I'll drop that. But you've clearly said what they're doing is wrong - or at least what you're doing isn't wrong. or if anyone is wrong it's them and not you.
either one, you're giving your case more weight than 'them', based on what...?? I'm not twisting that.

MO they're the wrong ones to go through with this, not me


there's no twisting there...

I'm not trying to pick. I just REALLY REALLY can't see how you can say that considering your beliefs....
11:05pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3989 posts
you're still twisting

i think your head isn't on straight

" only found out early this year that i actually could be one "

is supposed to be read as

" only found out early this year that i actually can be one "

i wasn't speaking in terms of maybes and mights, i was speaking in terms of absolutes =P
11:15pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Skitza
Brisbane, Queensland
6059 posts
i think thread will eventually need the sacred call of...



pics or lying.
11:17pm 06/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
874 posts
ah... well fair enough then.

that just leaves this
IMO they're the wrong ones to go through with this, not me
.....

how?
11:22pm 06/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
147 posts
Well, I for one am neither for it nor against it. I only know Einstein because we worked together for a short while, so I don't know him enough to care either way.

However, these people posting that he should die on the operating table and other equally as bad statements should all f*** off. With the absolute malice spewing forth out of some people's mouths, anyone would think Einstein was trying to have sex, with them!!

Honestly, if he chooses to follow through with the operation, no one has to live with it but himself. I can understand that people would think that by posting this on an internet forum that he was grandstanding or otherwise being an attention whore, and those comments may be valid, but there is absolutely NO reason for the viscious replies that some people seem to only be capable of making.

If you don't agree with the idea, stay out of the thread maybe?

As I said, I am impartial and only post to air my concerns with certain people's lack of common courtesy. I know this forum can be a tough crowd sometimes, but this has to be an all time low.

Flame with if you will, but I have 4 kids and a nagging wife, so it's water off a ducks back to me.

Anyway Einstein, best of luck to you, whatever you decide.
11:23pm 06/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1972 posts
/agrees with lonewolf
11:30pm 06/12/04 Permalink
dRanged
Sydney, New South Wales
681 posts
Hardcore.

A tough life is destined for you. I hope you find strength in your friends, because I'll be one of the many people taking the piss out of you when you walk down the street past me...

Good luck.

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11:35pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3990 posts
I wasn't attention whoring when i posted this thread, it was to clear any ugly rumors that would have surfaced eventually. From my own mouth, not down the line from a hundred others adding their little f***ed up twist of opinion

As for dRanged, everyone's not perfect, i don't blame you. But if i thought for one second i wouldn't be able to pass in everyday life i wouldn't be doing this. I've thought about it and done the research, i won't be a manb**** and you wont get a chance to take the piss =)
11:42pm 06/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7607 posts
Have you seen the fashion from the 80's? People thought they looked good back then... and what about that whole safari outfit phase... seemed like a good idea at the time...
hey, lets take a step back here. DO NOT bag safari suits, and it WAS NOT 'just a phase' - they are now cooler than ever.
11:43pm 06/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8229 posts
I'm rather disappointed with everyone's reaction to be honest.

Not enough classy calls.
11:46pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
830 posts
Wow. This thread really took off since my last visit.

That 600 post change owned.

Edit:
NF I've said it before and I'll say it again "I think there has been some comedy gold in this thread" Hell the whole thread was gold from the first post.

A guy who thinks he's a girl so he's becoming a girl. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

last edited by Triamks at 23:48:59 06/Dec/04
11:47pm 06/12/04 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
2470 posts
This thread is starting to get boring. It did deliver for a while but after about a hundred posts also it's just starting to get boring.
12:03am 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7611 posts
boredom is what created the thread.
12:08am 07/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4294 posts
i won't be a manb****


Post the concept sketches already to satisfy our curiosity.
12:33am 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7617 posts
if you're fugly as a man, on the balance of probabilities you're going to be + fugly as a woman. But nobody said this was about looks anyway.
12:39am 07/12/04 Permalink
jmr
Brisbane, Queensland
3747 posts
i think your just saying that to convince yourself that your so macho macho. your head couldnt handle the fact that if he was an attractive female there is a chance that you COUL BE ATTRACTED TO A MAN.

and real men play rugby
12:50am 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7618 posts
I know it can happen, a friend of mine hooked up with a 'chick' at Hotel LA in 1999, they were waiting in the taxi line and he went for a quick grope and found meat and potatoes. Hasn't been the same since. was very funny though.
12:54am 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4737 posts
i think your just saying that to convince yourself that your so macho macho. your head couldnt handle the fact that if he was an attractive female there is a chance that you COUL BE ATTRACTED TO A MAN.


You obviously haven't seen spidz's lady. NO way Einy/Melissa is going to compete.

:)
12:59am 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7619 posts
heh, shame she didn't buy your treadmill Psycho.

the one we bought is broken, she better not pack on the kgs :)
01:05am 07/12/04 Permalink
eK
Brisbane, Queensland
8289 posts
if you're fugly as a man, on the balance of probabilities you're going to be + fugly as a woman. But nobody said this was about looks anyway.
You'd have to say though there are probably a bigger percentage of drunk-desperate-horny guys going round, moreso than girls.

So maybe einy has a chance!
01:09am 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4740 posts
the one we bought is broken, she better not pack on the kgs :)


sorry to hear that, I think Boxhead's still running on my old tready. If she does pack on the pounds, I know from this thread, that the female population is going to go up by one in the near future. If your interested that is..

:D
01:12am 07/12/04 Permalink
caffeinebear
Melbourne, Victoria
921 posts
01:23am 07/12/04 Permalink
mooby
UK
2416 posts
You'd have to say though there are probably a bigger percentage of drunk-desperate-horny guys going round, moreso than girls.


not in london :P
01:23am 07/12/04 Permalink
mooby
UK
2417 posts
I know it can happen, a friend of mine hooked up with a 'chick' at Hotel LA in 1999, they were waiting in the taxi line and he went for a quick grope and found meat and potatoes. Hasn't been the same since. was very funny though.


is your mate croc dundee? :P
01:26am 07/12/04 Permalink
Ice
Brisbane, Queensland
251 posts

i knew i was a girl when i was small, i only found out early this year that i actually could be one


Dude, your a DUDE. if you don't believe tell it to your third leg, i'm sure it will side with me. Getting rid of the little fella isn't going to make you a chick either, it's going to make you one f***ed up guy without a wing wang.
01:47am 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4741 posts
Hot or what?

http://www.users.on.net/~dwegner/Pics/1.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~dwegner/Pics/2.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~dwegner/Pics/3.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~dwegner/Pics/4.JPG

I know I'm hard.

:)

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last edited by Psycho! at 01:56:57 07/Dec/04
01:54am 07/12/04 Permalink
Lowgoz
Brisbane, Queensland
119 posts
i roffled

then felt bad
02:00am 07/12/04 Permalink
Ice
Brisbane, Queensland
252 posts
That last picture is truly disturbing.. im going to have nightmare's now.
02:07am 07/12/04 Permalink
DigitaL
Brisbane, Queensland
1770 posts

i know what this s*** involves, and just what a person has to go through to get to the end result.


1. cash
2. embarresment (sp)
3. stupidity

im not trying to be rude but if i had the money to spend, I wouldn't be spending it on removing my manhood but rather on some engine modifications, or if i had to other things that would improve my lifestyle.


geez people these days, what would happen if they never knew they could get a sex change?


02:32am 07/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2422 posts
there's s***loads of them hanging around the wickham and garden city
Thank god i'm moving away from garden city then

it wouldn't take much to "get involved" since that sort of trust and understanding relationship is rare for people like us
I'd go as far as saying your kind of people have less dignity then a bunch of dogs f*****g each others puppies.

but ups for being removed from the genepool.

can someone sign booyah and clipto up for this as well?
tell him he's dreaming.
02:50am 07/12/04 Permalink
NaBeL|MuSe
Brisbane, Queensland
198 posts
hilarity ++
02:51am 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4743 posts
18-25k can sure buy a lot of therapy and blowjobs.

Give manhood a chance.

I know I jest a lot , and I am no way near as threatening as some post in this thread..but truly. I have a mate and he's gay/bi-sexual ect...he's 50 yrs old and that's the lifestyle he's chosen. But he really is the 'most alone' person I know, he has flings every now, hangs out with people of the same ilk ect. and basically he has 'convinced' himself that he is happy, when its obvious to all his true friends that he is really a sad and lonely person.

I really think if you worked hard at this you might be able to recover and build on what you seem destined to throw away.

I met you a couple of times back in the days when lans were happening and you seemed to be a pretty normal ok type of guy really. Find that person within yourself and build on that foundation. S*** it would be easier to accept if you came 'out' and and said you're gay.

I can't for the life of me see anyone who changes gender being anything but ultimately gay in the end really.

I've had a few drinks and its hard to type but really this is something I just cant seem to get a grip on. If someone wants to be gay fine, but if someone is so mixed up they want to be female just to be gay then that is reallly confusing.

I know you linked to and outlined the medical explanation of this condition but sometimes I really think the medical world 'creates' conditions just to explain an abnormality in the population spread.. What would Freud have said? Conditioned response?..family upbringing? mother syndrome?

I don't think anything I have offered or have to offer will change your mind, only you can do that..but I still reckon with better counselling and better medical guidance you could overcome this desire to be a woman. Maybe its a strong desire to 'belong' and be accepted by a group, like the goths and punks ad nauseum, but if you can see past the initial 'coolness' of being part of a certain type of sub-culture you might just see past that flimsy world and realise that the real world is much more appealing.

I'm drunk dont pay any attention to me.

hic.
02:58am 07/12/04 Permalink
Greazy
Canada
2659 posts
hey guys whats happening in this thread?
03:00am 07/12/04 Permalink
NaBeL|MuSe
Brisbane, Queensland
199 posts
gay. thats whats the hizaps
03:21am 07/12/04 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
3336 posts
Man (cause thats what you are), do you really wana go through with this. Seems more like you are convincing yourself to do it.
You will go through life as an outcast. Down to every little detail like getting stares on the bus or getting turned down by some 60something year old boss of a company who is totally traditionalist.
Pyscho, thats got nothing to do with the fact that he is gay (unless its different for people in that age bracket), I know plenty of gay c**** ranging from 18-30 and they enjoy life as much as anyone.
Ya never know, I think in a few years (10 or more) being abusive towards gays will be considered in the same category as racism.

I think I have just argued for and against - to fix that ill say that gays and lesbians dont freak me out at all, however manchicks do, and if I ever happened to hook up with a tranny then I would proceed to beat the f*** out of them as if they were 100% man.
03:27am 07/12/04 Permalink
Rommel
Brisbane, Queensland
3137 posts
Can't he just settle with being an effeminate man?

edit: last pic on the right would be a good reason.

last edited by Rommel at 03:46:39 07/Dec/04
03:45am 07/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8852 posts
Yeah, I think I'm on Psycho's side of the fence with this, I just can't comprehend the thought processes behind something like this or why a person would do it.

$25k is a lot to spend to find out this magic cure to all your problems isn't much of a cure at all and just gives you even more problems. Personally I'd be exhausting absolutely all alternatives first before even considering going the chop, but hey, its your money/c***/life.

last edited by Khel at 04:50:20 07/Dec/04
04:49am 07/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8232 posts
As if Einstien was $18k to spend.
07:13am 07/12/04 Permalink
Slappercx
Brisbane, Queensland
1690 posts
he will never he happy. he will be alone and he will be an outcast. then he will wish he still had flat chest and some frank and beans
08:24am 07/12/04 Permalink
quake-one
Brisbane, Queensland
46 posts
QGL never fails to deliver giant piles of steaming stupidity.

For the record, I fully support Melissa's decision. Everyone saying that they can't understand/process the information etc etc need to accept that they have small minds and let it go. (except Psycho, his posts increasingly remind me of the military guy next door from American Beauty as he descends into his own personal conundrum... watch your arse at the next LAN Melissa)

$18k is nothing. Most people here will spend that much on a one tonne polluting killing machine. Many people have already spent that much this way already, just to make them even more effective polluting and killing machines.

$18k will barely get you a *deposit* on a house anywhere within nuclear bomb blast range of the city.

A large percentage of you raving phillistines blow comparable amounts on booze and ciggies, probably because somehow your 13 second car hasn't killed you yet.

There is much more, but I long ago accepted that people here can't process too much information at once. (I think you are allergic)
08:32am 07/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
876 posts
Khel and psycho have pretty much started me on what I wanted to finally say.

Despite the fact that you and your life are totally removed from mine, this somehow still affects me. I won't go through any of the MASSIVE hardship you're going to have to go through if you go right through with this, or feel the effects that EVERYONE around you will have to deal with, but I still can't help feeling almost shattered at what one of my own kind is going to go through. That's something I can relate to.

I know plenty of people have gone through this sort of thing, and I've never cared before. It's so easy to cast it aside as just whacky f***ed up people in the US for example... Jerry Springer style. But that's exactly what it has always been - more or less fiction... despite the fact that I KNOW this sort of s*** goes on, it's in a basket of non-reality. Part of the world per se, but not part of realreality, (the reality that I know...). But to see it unfold (almost) first hand, to see what opinions and thoughts you have right from the start of this process, it's really quite a surreal thing.

It's very similar to news of death. When there's large tradgedies and the likes, it doesn't affect me.
Train wreck - 30 people die. meh, don't care.
World trade centre - 3000 people die. the actual deaths - couldn't really care less (as harsh as it sounds...). The event was mind blowing, and struck me in a profound way, but the actual deaths didn't seem to play a part in the amazement of the whole event in my mind.
Earthquake in Turkey - 30,000 people die. I don't batt an eyelid. even seeing mass turmoil on the news, watching mothers wail over their dead daughters, it hardly strikes a nerve with me.

And it's because none of these sort of events seem real to me. Of course if I experienced anything like it first hand it would be a different story, but without that, these sort of tradgedies are just so inconceivable that my mind seemingly involutarily gives them little credibility. If I don't take a step back and really think, hey that actually happened, and try to fathom the sort of scale of personal loss that thousands of people are feeling, it just seems as though I can't automatically give it the same label of reality that I give everything else in my life, and in that respect, it doesn't affect me because it's effectively not real.... (as far as I'm concerned)

But as soon as you hear news of 1 person dying, just 1, it jolts me so much more. I've not had anyone close to me die, relatives, friends, or family, so I don't know the true pain that some feel, but the point is that I can conceive it.
Mother dies in car crash when she falls asleep at the wheel. - that could be my mum.
Teenager dies when he jumps off the victoria bridge for fun in a drunken state. - that could be my best mate.
Bloke dies after a kick to the face in a pub brawl. - that could be my brother.
I can easily conceive of things like these affecting ME, and even just glimpsing the pain that I would feel, the pain that someone just like me IS feeling, is upsetting enough, even though it's still not affecting me.

You may think I've gone way off topic, but not at all.

The way I'm feeling:

1. not only is this whole topic similar to my thoughts on death in so far as I can actually relate to your position, (you're an actual real person that I have seen express individual opinion, not just another one on the jerry springer yank fiction pile. you could be my best mate, my brother, my son, me...),

but 2. The way I feel about you doing this is almost identical to the loss I feel for others when close ones to them die.

Now I'm not abusing you at all here, I'm not trying to make petty constructive comments, nor am I wishing you good luck and telling you that I hope you'll be happy. I don't feel any such emotion, I don't think any of these positions would serve any purpose, and I don't think any one of these positions is warranted.

Although this post serves no ultimate purpose; it is not constructive or encouraging, and I doubt will sway your desicion even in the slightest; for some reason I just felt it necessary that I must say something to convey my unexpectedely strong emotions about your mindset. After milling on it for a few days, it's not of disgust,or amusement, or hate, or bewilderment, but of sadness. A deep sadness that I can only relate to the thought of someones death. The death of someones friend. Trying to imagine deciding on doing this my self, or imagining one of my close friends telling me this is what they've decided to do - just trying to glimpse what would go through my mind and the minds of everybody around me is just so unreal, that despite you and I having lives totally removed from each other, I can't help but be taken by some strange sence of remorse and depression at the thought of what you're doing to your mind, and at the thought of the irriversible travesty you're going to allow to your body. Even though there's a fair way to go, i feel remorse because it doesn't seem anything can dissuade you, and the wheels are already in motion.

I can't find anything positive in this, and couldn't possibly wish more that you didn't go through with this for some reason that isn't yet apparant to you and would be enough to stop you or change your mind. For me, reading this is just as saddening as someone announcing plans to kill themselves.
08:40am 07/12/04 Permalink
quake-one
Brisbane, Queensland
47 posts
Here we have bargain, who "couldn't care less" when 30,000 people die in Turkey, but is now profoundly upset because Melissa's announcement makes him feel someone he knows is dying.

I understand your reasons. But isn't it possible you need to examine your emotional responses? You have allowed yourself to become inured to the terrible plight of people all over the world simply because you haven't seen them personally or cannot imagine anyone you know in their place?

Here's a hint, they are real people and their suffereing is every bit as real as the other strangers to you that you can somehow imagine being someone you know.

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08:50am 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
440 posts
quake-one:

a) stop acting like you care and just admit it that you agree with bargain.

b) quake-one was the worst game ever made, even spider solitaire owns it.
09:38am 07/12/04 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
1240 posts
My 2 cents...


Einstien...I think you're making a mistake and shouldn't rush into this, I don't know you, I've never met you, but the simple fact that you still like women makes me think that there are other issues at play here that you need to explore before you go down this path.

I don't know what your priorities are in life...but doing this will remove any chance you have of ever having children of your own blood...and as far as I'm concerned...and if you're not passing on something of yourself to the next generation...what do you want the purpose of your life to be?
09:39am 07/12/04 Permalink
bargain
Brisbane, Queensland
877 posts
I think I've made it obvious that I know they are real people, and their suffering is just as real. I've only used extreme wording in my examples like that to convey as best I could what I was getting at.


Beside the point... but let me elaborate.

lets say your mum dies quake-one. how distraught would you be? for how long? what about your brother dying, or your best friend? I know that if my mum brother or mate, or anyone close to me died, I would be unconsollable for months.

Now when you watch the news and see that x thousand people in x country have died due to x happening, do you go into mourning for them? Do you treat every person seperately and mourn for them individually? I put it to you that you don't. Most people will shake their heads a few times and mutter how unfair life can be (not unsincerely or mocking), and then get back to their daily routines. watching the next tv show. eating dinner. This is not people being insensitive, but it is just not within our experience. And as much as we'd like to say that we're not controlled by our environment, we are to quite a large degree. If something is out of our experience, it cannot be readily accepted as normal. When I see some natural disaster has killed x thousand people, I feel for the victims, but not in the same way I feel for individuals that die. 30,000 people dying is made up of individuals, yes, but I can't put faces on them. I can't see what individual characters have been lost. 30,000 people dying almost just looks like a number in my head. It's hard to put a visual representation on what's been lost...

Of course I can comprehend what has happened, but unfortunately due to the limited experience in our life up untill this moment, one cannot easily relate to such large differences to what we're used to. As a result, you can hear that sort of news and have forgotten about it in a week. Quite simple. That sort of thing doesn't happen where we live, so when it does happen elsewhere, it doesn't have the same effect on us as our day to day experiences do. It's not part of OUR realitly for that sort of thing to happen.... so in THAT sense, it's almost not real....

try not to take everything so literally.

All I was trying to say is that when individuals die, we can easily relate to it. At least I can. But when huge numbers of people die, it has less effect on me because there's no name and face to that number. That's something we can't relate to very easily. Clearly the more people that die the worse... but that doesn't mean that your emotions will act accordingly.

This was all very much beside the point. If you disagree, I couldn't be bothered elaborating further.
09:40am 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
441 posts
I agree with bargain.

But then seeing someone cut open a crocodile and pull out a kids leg and two arms doesnt really phase me either.

I'm sure in real life would be very different, but really it's the internet.
09:45am 07/12/04 Permalink
quake-one
Brisbane, Queensland
48 posts
I have already stated that I understand your reasons and of course the death of a close one will justifiably hurt more than the death of someone unknown to you.

What I was trying to say is this: In absolutely no way do I greet Melissa's news as I would the death of someone known to me. The thought of 3000 people dying in New York is far and away more distressing than is the revelation of Melissa's decision.

By pointing out the reality of their reality if you'll allow, I was attempting to show you how far off-base on this one I think you are.
09:54am 07/12/04 Permalink
Crizane Tribal
Brisbane, Queensland
291 posts
I agree with bargain. Anybody who says they care about x many people dying in a far away land is full of crap. I'm sorry but it's true, and i've done extensive research on this topic at uni.

News is designed to make you feel like you care. It's called the news narrative. Notice how it starts with something local/national to get you in the mode, something you can relate to. Then you go off to iraqe to see some blankets placed over some dead bodies or something. You shake your head, sigh, or let out a big "fff-iretr-uuuuuuuuuuck...". The news then switches back to your "safe zone", which is domestic news like boring political stuff, or some crappy feel good story about some inbred kid getting his puppy back.

The fact of the matter is, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE A CRAP. Sure, any normal person slaps a "sad" label on it. S***, i'd give half my dinner to some poor african kid if i could, but i don't feel all that sad.
10:02am 07/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1218 posts
I completely understand Einstein you may feel you are compelled to do this. I would not use figure of $25k as a negative. That is f*** all money.

The major problem is that it would be an irreversible decision. And you would be moving from a state certainty to a complete state of limbo.

You may say that by having the operations etc you are clarifying your gender/sexuality issues but in fact you will be just confusing them more.

Probably the most relevant observation I have read so far is that, although you think it will bring you satisfaction, it is a "fool's gold". Much like people who win the lotto thinking all that money will solve their life of poverty and misery.

Everybody has that "thing" in their life that annoys them but we all have our cross to bear. Being comfortable with yourself is the main thing.

Be careful what you wish for though. You may just get it. Good luck.

Just to reiterate from my earlier post, I love my penis.
10:14am 07/12/04 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
1219 posts
also what bargain speaks of reminds me of that quote from joseph stalin (I think). it was featured in call of duty.

one man's death is a tragedy.

the death of a million men is a statistic.
10:16am 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3991 posts
Heh, after 35 pages people are still telling me i shouldn't be rushing things and i haven't possibly thought everything through. I love it

Please go back and read this thread. Then proceed to the somethingawful forums and read over 800 posts. Now, when you've read all of both forums, you can come back into this thread THEN tell me i'm making a mistake.

I am FULLY aware that i possibly can and will be a lonely person.
I KNOW that i could probably never have intimate relations ever again, even if i CHOSE to.

I have every RIGHT to make this decision for MYSELF under guidance of REAL professionals, not a bunch of armchair "experts". God f*****g help anyone on this board who actually came here for help and advice, you stick your head in the sand, don't even bother doing any research at all and just tell the person what you would do.

Works for you right? What about how they are feeling? Oh that's right, it doesn't matter how that person is feeling because they aren't you... they should just suck it up and accept life.

Heh, you folks seriously need to reconsider what you say before you push someone over the edge one day. You're lucky i have the strength to just nod and smile and tell myself you just have no clue. But what about someone else who isn't as smart as i? Someone who's a really emotional person?

Have a think about that before you pull out the trolling nets huh
10:18am 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7620 posts
I can't find anything positive in this,
did you miss the part about him being removed from the gene pool?

God f*****g help anyone on this board who actually came here for help and advice
if someone came here for help and advice I think its too late anyway.

I think this is quite relevant on that point. I believe you may suffer from the same disease einy.



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10:25am 07/12/04 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
6163 posts
Wow, takes some commitment and courage to go through something like that, einy.

I really think you should give up ciggies first tho.
10:34am 07/12/04 Permalink
Boxhead
UK
10115 posts
Please go back and read this thread. Then proceed to the somethingawful forums and read over 800 posts. Now, when you've read all of both forums, you can come back into this thread THEN tell me i'm making a mistake.
You posted on qgl to stop the gossip right?? umm then why post on SA?? Gimmick maybe??

Also i like the vibe of the sa posts, many commend you on your journey to 'inner peace' but you have posted many times that you know this won't fix anything in your head... So where is the inner peace going to come from??

A renewed self confidence?? heh that won't last long if you've come to terms with never being close to someone ever again, being a lonely person and all..

The more you post the more evident it becomes that this is a stop gap measure allowing you to divert whatever issues you have into a 'well thats just my chick mind playing tricks'

In the face of everything the one thing that rings true is you yourself have said this won't fix anything... Wow so much to lose and as yourself have said, nothing to gain interms of self worth or inner peace...

Have you really made the right decisiont?
11:02am 07/12/04 Permalink
shaz
Brisbane, Queensland
177 posts
I've been reading this thread on and off and it seems like you think you will be happy once you've had this procedure and that you don't really care what other people will think. But what other people think will affect you whether you like it or not. Someone said something about when you apply for a job and get rejected because of what you are. Regardless of discrimination laws people are always going to judge you. Do you think you will really be happy when the only job you will be able to find is cleaning toilets at the Wickham for the rest of your life? You must have other aspirations other than becoming a female. There are other things in life that will affect you whether you like it or not. And if you can not find a job that you like what will you do? Do nothing and live of society for the rest of your life? It seems that your 18k fix is only the beginning of the costs that tax payers will have to bear.
If you really have to do it you should go to Thailand and become a ladyboy.
11:36am 07/12/04 Permalink
AnaRoT
Queensland
8107 posts

they should just suck it up and accept life.


Sounds just about f*****g right to me. People need to start taking responsihility for their f*****g actions.

Heh, you folks seriously need to reconsider what you say before you push someone over the edge one day. You're lucky i have the strength to just nod and smile and tell myself you just have no clue. But what about someone else who isn't as smart as i? Someone who's a really emotional person?


Yeah, you're REAL f*****g emotionally and intellectually strong.... ffs that is the funniest thing to be said yet in this thread!!!!!!!
11:37am 07/12/04 Permalink
StreX
Brisbane, Queensland
3975 posts
hahaha this is just f*****g rediculous.

c*** intact or not, you'll always be a wanker einstein.
11:47am 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
442 posts
WOW there is a new chick on the qgl forums!!!!!!

melissa: ASL?
11:54am 07/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4297 posts
But what about someone else who isn't as smart as i? Someone who's a really emotional person?

At least we'd be able to save their c***!

That tuckermax article was rather disturbing... moral of the story: If theres no natural lube, dont poke that tube... its really a dude!


You need some therapy with Dr Trolley Bar.
11:56am 07/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8853 posts
Heh, you folks seriously need to reconsider what you say before you push someone over the edge one day. You're lucky i have the strength to just nod and smile and tell myself you just have no clue. But what about someone else who isn't as smart as i? Someone who's a really emotional person?


If you dont want people posting their opinions on the topic, you shouldn't have started this thread. If you wanted loving, caring, supportive responses you chose the wrong place to make your case.

Besides, looking back over this thread, the majority isn't trolls, its just people trying to understand why someone would do this, and voicing their concerns that maybe its not the ultimate solution you seem to think it is.
01:18pm 07/12/04 Permalink
WetWired
Brisbane, Queensland
1242 posts
I Concur ^^^^
01:38pm 07/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3571 posts
How is this going to affect your dating guide that, in restrospect, I was very fortunate not to read?
01:39pm 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7621 posts
if khel posted a thread saying he wanted to cut his boobs off I would completely understand.
01:39pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
125 posts
I was just reading the sunday paper, because i forgot to on sunday, and came accross an article on page 50 about children as young as 3 beggining the process that einstein is going through, just because they either

play with girls toys
or choose play mates of those only of the opposite sex (or something along those lines)

A court also allowed a 13 year old girl, to begin the sex change treatment, after hearing she had been raised as a boy.

01:42pm 07/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3573 posts
It brings up some good cloning issues and debates.

For example, if you cloned Einstein, would he still be a lesbian? Or would he just be a girl trapped in a man's body but attracted to men (LMAO)?

Tell you what I have learned from this thread: my boys will be playing with big f*** off dump trucks as toys, and play rugby as soon as they can walk, and won't know the meaning of the word comprimise till they are 55. My girls will only ever wear pink, play with barbie dolls from the 50's (the way they should have stayed), listen only to Justin Timberlake or N'Sync, and be vegetarians.
01:49pm 07/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1978 posts
yer and they will sitll turn out gay
01:52pm 07/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3575 posts
as long as they don't use zero's instead of O's;)
01:54pm 07/12/04 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
2708 posts
f*** me. 36 pages... is that a record?
01:55pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
128 posts
c'mon now.
I'm a chick, i hate pink always have, i don't listen to that disposable crap that they call music, yet i don't think im male. I like having titties.
01:56pm 07/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1979 posts
sif n0t use teh zer0s!
01:57pm 07/12/04 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
2709 posts
hahaah

pics of said tittays for verification?
02:01pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
129 posts
lol this is why i dont post here very often :\

plus i dont have any pics of my boobs anymore. wouldnt take long to get them back, but i cant be bothered.

anyway.

Melissa,
how exactly do you go about getting like your lisence and everything changes to say your female after everything ? is it just a case of getting all the medical crap and showing them or what.

Also, you say you will be barely recogniseable at the end, im assuming you wont get the whole identification thing changed until the very end, so how will you be able to prove your age etc in between, coz im assuming your not going to look the same as your drivers lisence for very long.
02:11pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
448 posts
joanna: you had an operation to remove your boobs?
02:13pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
130 posts
No, i never said that, they're still there, and will be for the rest of my life thankyou.
02:14pm 07/12/04 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
1981 posts
unless u become a man
02:17pm 07/12/04 Permalink
B.Hardball
Brisbane, Queensland
3576 posts
joanna: you had an operation to remove your boobs?


HAHAHAH where the f*** did that come from?!
02:23pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Chakas
Brisbane, Queensland
119 posts
It brings up some good cloning issues and debates.

For example, if you cloned Einstein, would he still be a lesbian? Or would he just be a girl trapped in a man's body but attracted to men (LMAO)?


Why the hell would anyone want to clone Einstein!
02:38pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
132 posts
im not sure about the whole cloning thing, but if you cloned someone im assuming its only the body that is cloned not the mind/personality/anything that makes the person themselves rather than their image.

going by thet (if its correct) that would mean bassically the new einstein would be a completely different person inside that just looks like einstien.

I think its more interesting to think what would happen if they cloned Melissa (the end product)
Would the new being be male/female? i dunno, thats just what i thought when you mentioned cloning.
02:44pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Crunch
Perth, Western Australia
761 posts
I thought bragain's posts a couple of pages ago were pretty good ... not all that relevant, IMHO, but well constructed (which makes a change on this forum).

Einstein good luck with it all; I personally don't think you will be happier after it all, particularly if you look like some of those manchicks on the photos a couple of pages ago.

I think people will always be looking at you thinking 'is/was that a man once?' even if it does turn out well. Like Otto said to Marge's sister once "You were born a man, right?"

But, as I said, good luck to you.
02:45pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
452 posts
That's quite an interesting question.

What if they closed melissa, and it grew up as a chick but thinking it was a guy, so it ends up having a sex change and changing it's name to Einstein again.

It's just an endless cycle of sex changes.
02:46pm 07/12/04 Permalink
JigZie
Brisbane, Queensland
1463 posts
holy f*** this thread is f*****g massive.
what the f*** is it about.
effort ++ to read it
02:48pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Chakas
Brisbane, Queensland
120 posts
im not sure about the whole cloning thing, but if you cloned someone im assuming its only the body that is cloned not the mind/personality/anything that makes the person themselves rather than their image.

going by thet (if its correct) that would mean bassically the new einstein would be a completely different person inside that just looks like einstien.

I think its more interesting to think what would happen if they cloned Melissa (the end product)
Would the new being be male/female? i dunno, thats just what i thought when you mentioned cloning.


At the most fundamental level he is still male and can never stop being male. His DNA i.e. blueprint for his body (and to a certain extent his personality) will still be male and the clone will be physically male. There are some studies that show when identical twins are separated at birth (which used to happen a fair bit) and raised in completely different environments they often have very similar personalities. Basically that indicates that a clone is probably predisposed to having a similar personality to the original.
02:51pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Charles Hode
Nowra, New South Wales
453 posts
holy f*** this thread is f*****g massive.
what the f*** is it about.
effort ++ to read it


In short, Melissa is moving to Africa to be with her native family of Africans. She is asking for someone such as yourself to help her get there by donating $1-2 or $5 if you can spare it.
02:53pm 07/12/04 Permalink
JigZie
Brisbane, Queensland
1464 posts
Get a job.
03:00pm 07/12/04 Permalink
hast
Brisbane, Queensland
528 posts
if einstein is having trouble finding a job now it will be even harder once he is a he-b****
03:26pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3992 posts
I already have a job and just recently received a promotion which includes a pay rise. I think i'm doing well enough thanks. There's also plenty of opportunity to move further upwards within this company into various different departments and aspects, wether they be in the public eye or not. Either aspect of public or private employment within this company pays about the same amount. Either on manager rates as a Supervisor in public, or more days per week in the workshop and R&D Division.

The rest of you are just regurgitating, please to be reading the thread and finding the questions you've already asked already answered several times.

Except for this one:
Melissa,
how exactly do you go about getting like your lisence and everything changes to say your female after everything ? is it just a case of getting all the medical crap and showing them or what.

Also, you say you will be barely recogniseable at the end, im assuming you wont get the whole identification thing changed until the very end, so how will you be able to prove your age etc in between, coz im assuming your not going to look the same as your drivers lisence for very long.

Simply going down to the registrar and having my name changed by deed poll. After it's approved by a judge then i just go to relevant parties who have my details and inform them that i have had my name changed. Bank institutions, centrelink, my place of employment, phone companies and the like. Then i go down to the Department of Transport and also inform them I have changed my name and would like to get another license and updated photo. Usually there's no problem in ticking the F box, it's not that important.

As for my passport regarding international travel, it is fully illegal to tick the F box until AFTER the SRS.

Pretty easy compared to a lot of other stuff.

Oh and while i'm at it, i'd like to take the opportunity to tell boxhead: You're an idiot, quit your job while you still have some of your mind left.
03:44pm 07/12/04 Permalink
GoLocoWithaHeata9mm
Indonesia
2423 posts
What's your current christain name ?
04:10pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4745 posts
(except Psycho, his posts increasingly remind me of the military guy next door from American Beauty as he descends into his own personal conundrum... watch your arse at the next LAN Melissa)


haha...you're new here aren't you?
04:58pm 07/12/04 Permalink
stinky
Brisbane, Queensland
398 posts
yeah, anyone who's been here for a while will know it was psycho has already been through the "operation". Although he did skip the other parts, and mostly still dresses as a man.
05:15pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Psycho!
Brisbane, Queensland
4747 posts
I guess the fact that I am actually a woman doesn't count hey?

:)
05:24pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3993 posts
i'd hit psycho

she's sexy
05:26pm 07/12/04 Permalink
acetame
Brisbane, Queensland
937 posts
except you wont have anything to hit psycho with soon...
05:27pm 07/12/04 Permalink
JigZie
Brisbane, Queensland
1465 posts
lol im confused ... who is melllisa ?
05:42pm 07/12/04 Permalink
rubba-chikin
Brisbane, Queensland
4300 posts
Read the thread title genious.
06:17pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Joanna
Brisbane, Queensland
133 posts
melissa is einstein.
or was einstein.
read the first page :)
06:18pm 07/12/04 Permalink
astrid
New South Wales
120 posts
I guess you aren't aware that as of the 1st February 2004 , you can no longer change your name by deed poll in Queensland.

But I think you can still register a change of name with Births, Deaths and Marriages.
06:21pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3994 posts
Different process, same result

Birth certificate even gets changed i believe
07:02pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Khel
Melbourne, Victoria
8855 posts
I wouldn't hit Psycho, he has a glock.
07:23pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Grosby
Brisbane, Queensland
2692 posts
07:29pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
973 posts
Just a few things....

1. Strex. Its RIDICULOUS.....no e in there.

2. Melissa/Einstein. Good to see ya sticking to your guns. Im sure if some of you actually sat down and talked to Einstein then you might get an insight into whats going on in his mind.

I had a friend have this done.....at first I couldnt understand why myself till I sat down and had a chat with him about it....he put it into such simple terms face to face that it all made perfect sense and I couldnt argue. He/she is still the same person they were before albeit as a female instead of a male.

3. Those who think it affects them personally. Please explain how? Are you a close friend of Einstein or directly related to him? If not why should you bother. He more than likely wont have anything to do with you and you with him so.....wheres the problem.



I guess Im just having trouble understanding peoples reactions to this since Ive been thru a similar situation before.

08:12pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Viper119
UK
805 posts
I dont understand why you'd feel the need to tell a bunch of people on the internet, that you dont entirely know, all about this bizarre and misguided decision.

Oi mooby, burl me on msn if you can, Viper119 at hotmail, my flight leaves on the 4th of march, i'll be in london a few days after, staying in East Putney for a few months with my friends uncle.
08:26pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Ice
Brisbane, Queensland
253 posts
What I don't understand is that it's a fact right now that your male. You are male no question's about it but you think your a female in the head???

Doesn't that just mean you have a few issue's to work out.. with a shrink or something. Hell like people have said before that would be much easier than getting a sex change wouldn't it?
08:27pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
974 posts
Actually another question you may have already answered but I might have missed.

Have you told your workplace?....or are you just gonna show up dressed as a chick? What was their reaction to this?
08:43pm 07/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8236 posts
He's unemployed obviously.
09:03pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Space Ninja
Brisbane, Queensland
2943 posts
What about your voice dude (no idea if this has been addressed earlier) but surely not even hormones at this late stage could fix that?

09:05pm 07/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1065 posts
I already have a job and just recently received a promotion which includes a pay rise.

What a load of crap, you got a payrise because they were paying you below the legal minimum, there was no payrise involved :p
09:12pm 07/12/04 Permalink
spoon
Brisbane, Queensland
1175 posts
I think what he meant by payrise was that centrelink accidently overpaid him.
09:16pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
8 posts
I dont understand why you'd feel the need to tell a bunch of people on the internet, that you dont entirely know, all about this bizarre and misguided decision.


Probably because he knows a lot of people from here personally...

I had a friend have this done.....


Did you hit it?

Sorry .. couldn't resist...
09:18pm 07/12/04 Permalink
spidz
Brisbane, Queensland
7624 posts
he is the reccptionist at some laser skirmish place.

obviously he is only getting a sex change because most receptionists are female and he wants to fit in.
09:26pm 07/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8241 posts
I'm sure the wanna-be marine guys who run laser skirmish are pretty tolerant of transexuals.
09:35pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3995 posts
What a load of crap, you got a payrise because they were paying you below the legal minimum, there was no payrise involved

i was talking about the manager's rates actually, but thanks for your vote of confidence
09:42pm 07/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1068 posts
Except you're not a session manager yet, you were there as a trial, and because they were so damn low on staff :p Why do you think you had Al there looking after you?

Think of it more as a reality check, than a vote of confidence :p

last edited by =-Firefrog-= at 21:55:55 07/Dec/04
09:51pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Triamks
Brisbane, Queensland
835 posts
This thread is full of votes of confidence.
09:51pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3996 posts
oh so then managing this sunday is just because they're low on staff too?

thanks frog, really
10:10pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
975 posts
Did you hit it?

Sorry .. couldn't resist...


Err no mainly cos last time I saw him/her it was a pre-op....that and he/she did nothing for me. And my fiance woulda been pretty pissed with me had I tried......oh and he/she was into chicks not guys.

Just to clear that up!

10:21pm 07/12/04 Permalink
LoneWolf
Brisbane, Queensland
148 posts
Now now ladies, don't get your panties in a bunch ...

10:21pm 07/12/04 Permalink
nF
Forum Hero
Wynnum, Queensland
8242 posts
So are you a manish chick or a girlish man when you twiddling the knobs on people's guns?
10:21pm 07/12/04 Permalink
=-Firefrog-=
Hobart, Tasmania
1069 posts
Probably, its not my fault your have delusions of granduer, though if you keep doing well and don't step on anyones toes (other then Lateo's, because he doesn't count) you'd probably make full time session manager. Although, a guy in drag isn't exactly the image they're looking for, so you might end up relegated to behind the scenes stuff.
10:22pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Syco
Brisbane, Queensland
9 posts
Err no mainly cos last time I saw him/her it was a pre-op....that and he/she did nothing for me. And my fiance woulda been pretty pissed with me had I tried......oh and he/she was into chicks not guys.

Just to clear that up!


Have you cought up with the lately? like over the net or whatever .. would be interesting to see if they turned gay .. or hetro .. or whatever (liked guys)
10:25pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Manshoon
Brisbane, Queensland
977 posts
Ive tried to find out what happened to him/her lately but I lost contact with a lot of people when I moved to Townsville about 5 years ago.....never got back in contact with em when I moved to Brissy.....most of em are in Sydney and the main hangout we had back then was a Telnet "talker" called Forest.

Those were the good ol days.
10:27pm 07/12/04 Permalink
Melissa
Brisbane, Queensland
3997 posts
Anyway... show's over, move along

You can't say i didn't make your weekend interesting at least

Just go back to pretending it's still Einstein and all will be fine. That's all that's going to happen really.
12:18am 08/12/04 Permalink
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