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RJ
Melbourne, Victoria
1 posts
Check out this highlights reel from Round 4 of the Cybergamer Invitational League

It features Australia's top players and teams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8xfssLIGY
07:43pm 02/09/09 Permalink
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Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5461 posts
Yeah COD5's pretty mad
i play it online
on the PC of course, cos a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse
07:48pm 02/09/09 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
1161 posts
see that's funny, because there's no such thing as cod5.


also, codwaw is s***.
07:50pm 02/09/09 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
788 posts
a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse

I hear that brother.
07:52pm 02/09/09 Permalink
RJ
Melbourne, Victoria
2 posts
see that's funny, because there's no such thing as cod5.


also, codwaw is s***.

yea its not as good as cod 4 MW or upcoming MW2, but its alright.

These guys are still amazing tho.
07:53pm 02/09/09 Permalink
RJ
Melbourne, Victoria
3 posts
Yeah COD5's pretty mad
i play it online
on the PC of course, cos a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse

Isnt this the console forum?
07:54pm 02/09/09 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
14493 posts
Some of us read a different forum http://qgl.ausforums.com which doesn't have categories and just mashes everything together. We're old and we hate change and shake our walking stick at the younguns as they walk by. Just ignore mr console hater.
07:57pm 02/09/09 Permalink
RJ
Melbourne, Victoria
4 posts
Right I see its the same forum. Interesting.
08:05pm 02/09/09 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
1162 posts
even the noobiest pc player could kick those conslols 'pros' easily.
08:07pm 02/09/09 Permalink
Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
9536 posts
On AusGamers all threads also go into the General Chat forum http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/index.php which is essentially the same as the QGL list. The categories are more just for filtering at this point in time.

Anyhow. Welcome to the forums and thanks for sharing.
08:14pm 02/09/09 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
27719 posts
sorta funny, as games get more complicated visually, videos like that are almost impossible to watch on youtube - you just don't get the resolution you need to really see what is going on.

And yeh, its depressing watching FPS gamers on consoles moving like they're in slow motion :( its a pretty cool vid tho

edit: props gamestah!@#
08:14pm 02/09/09 Permalink
ravn0s
Brisbane, Queensland
8208 posts
damn that vid had horrible commentating
08:53pm 02/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5465 posts
f*** off frakture
and yeah, console's are s***.
09:08pm 02/09/09 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
10390 posts
these 2 posts in this thread from Dint have been the best he's ever made on qgl

speaks nothing but the truth
09:20pm 02/09/09 Permalink
d0mino
Brisbane, Queensland
4347 posts
even the noobiest pc player could kick those conslols 'pros' easily.


Are you saying, if both console player and pc player played against each other on pc? Or both the console player and the pc player play each other on console.
09:21pm 02/09/09 Permalink
Alt_F4
Brisbane, Queensland
1014 posts


Are you saying, if both console player and pc player played against each other on pc? Or both the console player and the pc player play each other on console.


I think the gist of his point was that if you are playing FPS on a console, you are a moron and therefore must be s*** at PC.
09:43pm 02/09/09 Permalink
BoB
Brisbane, Queensland
305 posts
if you interest in full video replays with commentary Gamestah (thx trog) are doing a dozen or so a week, most are live - so the quality is not perfect but certainly watchable.

http://www.gamestah.com/file/search-video

as for the horrible commentary comment, well we all got to start somewhere... its certainly not as easy as people like to think, all are welcome to give it a crack!
09:47pm 02/09/09 Permalink
BoB
Brisbane, Queensland
306 posts
lastest files are at the bottom of that list... (in the terms of quality as we had some problems at the start getting the best combination right)
09:50pm 02/09/09 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
1624 posts
and yeah, console's are s***.
I don't know, some games are just better on a console.
10:07pm 02/09/09 Permalink
NanaPeel21
Melbourne, Victoria
35 posts
and yeah, console's are s***.
I don't know, some games are just better on a console.


Quite true. Although I have to say for myself FPS's are much easier to control on a PC than a console, I just can't do it on a console to save my life.
10:32pm 02/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13326 posts
unscoped sniper kills make me rage.
12:29am 03/09/09 Permalink
kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
324 posts
and yeah, console's are s***.

I don't know, some games are just better on a console.



Yeah, like Pokemon Snap.
03:18am 03/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13330 posts
or mario party games.
03:25am 03/09/09 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
1626 posts
thanks for agreeing with me guys.

(they're still games and people still play them)
06:11am 03/09/09 Permalink
giririsss
Brisbane, Queensland
3257 posts
cod5 was frustrating, couldn't get into it as much as i did/do halo3. still was a MUCH better online game than gears2. god that was horrible to play online.

and alot of the maps in cod5 were horrible too.

cod6 looks good though.
08:20am 03/09/09 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
2064 posts
infi, what name do you play under? Also what servers are you normally on?
I've been playing on some of the local HC servers for a few weeks now, really enjoying it.
10:04am 03/09/09 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
2065 posts
and alot of the maps in cod5 were horrible too


Geez Giri, I'm so impressed at the detail and varity in the COD WOW maps. What didnt you like about the maps? Also, did you play piro all the time? ;p
10:06am 03/09/09 Permalink
giririsss
Brisbane, Queensland
3258 posts
haha, i've had to stop playing pyro in tf2, been playing soldier alot more. A class that would be useful in clan games :p (pyro is about 20x more fun though).

the variety is there in the maps, nothing against that, i just think they're pretty poorly designed. Most have no natural flow to them, there were alot of very campy areas right ontop of respawns, i can't nail down the reason why now, i'ts been too long since i played it, but i do remember thinking back and thinking how poor alot of the maps were. Not all, some are really decent.
10:25am 03/09/09 Permalink
taggs
Brisbane, Queensland
2850 posts
gamestah's commentary is awesome! they used to shoutcast a bunch of our tf2 matches. absolute champs.
10:35am 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5472 posts
giririssss, you're always gonna get s*** maps no matter which game you play. I actually believe COD5 has some of the best maps around. Sub Pens, Makin Day, Banzai, Outskirts all incorporate some very different and well laid out ways to have a fair game for both sides, no stupid camping points and fun for all i reckon.
10:40am 03/09/09 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
26086 posts
they talk funny
11:05am 03/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13335 posts
I usually play on Internode servers ET
11:15am 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5473 posts
i usually play on wodgamers.com standard or hardcore
11:47am 03/09/09 Permalink
Regank
Brisbane, Queensland
1 posts
Console gaming is the only way. Nothing like kicking it back on the couch in front of a 42" full HD LCD.
12:03pm 03/09/09 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
27723 posts
Console gaming is the only way. Nothing like kicking it back on the couch in front of a 42" full HD LCD.
That's great if you're trying to chill with a game and just trying to have fun, but FPS games aren't about that to me, especially multiplayer ones.

They're about beating other people who are really good at the game. That's not something I can do kicking back on the couch; I can only bring my A game if I'm at a PC, inches from the monitor, wired in my chair on a mouse !@#
12:19pm 03/09/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
5004 posts
troggles knows where it's at.. PC fo' life.

Plus after having a hardcore session of CoD you can flip open redtube and have a hardcore session of private time.
12:22pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
2301 posts
Sounds pretty serious, trog.

I like consoles for the social aspect, chilling out with mates on a couch. But for online multi-player, consoles can go get f***ed. And anyway, isn't the reason for having a TV so you can say to your missus, "Hey your fave show is on!" so you can get some one-on-one time with the computer? :-P

EDIT *fixed*
12:22pm 03/09/09 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
10395 posts
That's great if you're trying to chill with a game and just trying to have fun, but FPS games aren't about that to me, especially multiplayer ones.

They're about beating other people who are really good at the game. That's not something I can do kicking back on the couch; I can only bring my A game if I'm at a PC, inches from the monitor, wired in my chair on a mouse !@#


exactly
12:30pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Regank
Brisbane, Queensland
2 posts
When I cut across from PC FPS to console FPS, after I adjusted to using the control pad I found it was just the same.

Although I've never been leet at the PC or console FPS...

I reckon if COD5 multiplayer, was cross platform you wouldn't be able to tell pc and console players apart.
12:50pm 03/09/09 Permalink
paveway
Brisbane, Queensland
10396 posts
i reckon i'd f*****g flog you conslol c**** at fps games if it were cross platform

fyi
01:08pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5474 posts
don't bet on it regank
pc players will always own
01:09pm 03/09/09 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
1164 posts
I remember there was a game where they did cross platform. They had to patch the game to give the conslols players autoaim and other advantages because they were getting slaughtered, everytime.
01:11pm 03/09/09 Permalink
giririsss
Brisbane, Queensland
3260 posts
i reckon i'd f*****g flog you conslol c**** at fps games if it were cross platform

fyi


Actually there are some halo players out there that would slap you down no matter what you were using.
01:19pm 03/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13339 posts
there is no way you can aim with a s***** controller as well as with mouse. no way jose.
01:20pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
323 posts
tis troo!
01:37pm 03/09/09 Permalink
giririsss
Brisbane, Queensland
3261 posts
You'd be surprised how good their aim is in general, alot of the guys who do play proffesionaly with halo use a really high in game sens, with the stick being analogue they can move it quite accurately to where ever they want as fast/slow as they want.

I'm not saying i can, i'm f*****g s*** compared to them, but to rule it out shows ignorance.

I still think that mouse/keyboard is a much better controll mechanism too, for the record. But some people just get freaky good at this stuff.
01:39pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
26089 posts
troggles knows where it's at.. PC fo' life.


u just remember that ticcles when you are purchasing your mac
01:41pm 03/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13341 posts
yeah giri there will those 1% that have the autistic like skills with the controller that we cannot comprehend, but i am talking about the ease of aiming for the general population and the mechanics of using a controller vs a mouse.
01:42pm 03/09/09 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
1165 posts
The thing is though, console games are made so that it's easier to aim on the conslols anyway. try playing the pc version with a controller, it'd be heaps harder.
01:43pm 03/09/09 Permalink
boba
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3411 posts
could not stand those shoutcasters
01:43pm 03/09/09 Permalink
casa
Thimes
Brisbane, Queensland
3470 posts

I noticed in that s*** quality video that 90% of the shots/kills they make are not even aiming at the targets, the auto aim does it for them. EZ mode.
01:45pm 03/09/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
5005 posts
u just remember that ticcles when you are purchasing your mac


Don't be a hater!@ Although wifey successfully talked me out of it last night.. she used her psychology-magic on me :(
02:02pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
1 posts
I believe that this will never be settled until it comes to the day which it can happen. This illusion that PC 'gamers' are better at FPS is a total crock....

When the time comes I will gladly go up against any PC 'gamer' in a game of COD.

Consoles are the leet way to game as this is what they are designed for. PC should be used for porn and whatever else it is people do on the internetz
02:30pm 03/09/09 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
5006 posts
It already is settled to us adults, we know PC's are better than consoles.. it's just little kiddys still holding onto the dream that their 360 is a competitive gaming machine.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
02:32pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
2 posts
It sure is nice gaming on a 42" Full HD TV with my one controller w/headset connected compared to sitting at a desk in front of ,maybe, a 24" monitor where i have to use a keyboard AND a mouse along with third party applications to chat and have accounts for games which I pay on a game to game basis.

Nice to have a once of payment of $70 for a years worth of ANY GAME I WANT !!!
02:38pm 03/09/09 Permalink
FraktuRe
Gold Coast, Queensland
1167 posts
You're too retarded to even be a troll.
02:41pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
3 posts
CROSS OVER TO REAL GAMING... DO IT NOW!!!


last edited by ConsoleTroll at 14:58:05 03/Sep/09
02:51pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Steve Farrelly
Sydney, New South Wales
1858 posts
That's fine, I'll continue to enjoy games on both my PC set-up and consoles (with my enormous TV)
02:54pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Python
Sydney, New South Wales
325 posts
picture is missing the red ring
02:57pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
4 posts
I thought PC Gamers were the only people who gave out red rings to each other...
03:03pm 03/09/09 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
13343 posts
I tried playing a console on my huge LCD TV but all the games on offer were crap, and the controls were crap too.
03:03pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5475 posts
I thought PC Gamers were the only people who gave out red rings to each other...
your boyfriend only told you that cos he's just a giving kind of guy.
ps your gay
03:11pm 03/09/09 Permalink
RJ
Melbourne, Victoria
5 posts
It already is settled to us adults, we know PC's are better than consoles.. it's just little kiddys still holding onto the dream that their 360 is a competitive gaming machine.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hmmm mlgpro.com. So actually we have some of the highest paid competitive gamers in the world.

Hows CGS going? wait CPL? wait ESWC? wait.... why would they all be closing down if PC competitive gaming was going so well?.

The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults.
03:14pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5476 posts
in its infancy???? it's almost 4 years old! that's grey nomad stage of a console's life!
03:17pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Spook
Brisbane, Queensland
26092 posts
did i mention my sony is 50" and yet i still prefer to game on my comptuar!?

what do you think of that console* loving ladies


*i play my wii a fair bit, but its more than a console to me and its got the second best controling method for a fps after mouse and keyboard!
03:29pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
5 posts
ANYONE WHO MENTIONS NINTENDO F%#KIN WII...

DOES NOT HAVE A SAY IN THIS DISCUSSION!!!!
03:31pm 03/09/09 Permalink
ConsoleTroll
Queensland
6 posts
*i play my wii a fair bit, but its more than a console to me


HANG ON..... WTF ELSE DO YOU USE IT FOR???
03:35pm 03/09/09 Permalink
giririsss
Brisbane, Queensland
3262 posts
The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults


no it's not

ANYONE WHO MENTIONS NINTENDO F%#KIN WII...

DOES NOT HAVE A SAY IN THIS DISCUSSION!!!!


Obes?

03:46pm 03/09/09 Permalink
Mr Hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
5479 posts
consoletroll: deciding the rules of his own discussion.
03:46pm 03/09/09 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
27731 posts
I believe that this will never be settled until it comes to the day which it can happen. This illusion that PC 'gamers' are better at FPS is a total crock....

When the time comes I will gladly go up against any PC 'gamer' in a game of COD.

Consoles are the leet way to game as this is what they are designed for. PC should be used for porn and whatever else it is people do on the internetz
Well you can feel safe in this claim; your bravado will almost certainly never be tested.

It's pretty likely noone will ever make a multiplayer game than can talk across platforms like this, mostly for technical reasons - unless MS decide to make Live for Windows not suck and people start using it for dedicated servers and they design it in such a way that they can talk to the console clients as well.

I think it's unlikely though - the average PC gamer will s*** on a console gamer. I don't think this is a reflection on skill, it's just a simple limitation in the control method of console-based FPS games. You can't turn as fast, you can't aim as well, you don't have all the key options you do on a keyboard. That's not even thinking about hardware issues (PC gamers will be always able to keep upgrading and play the game in higher resolutions and at better framerates, resulting in a better play experience; I don't think anyone would argue that a more fluid framerate at higher resolutions is more conducive to better gaming (although I guess there's a point that it's unable to be differentiated).

Hmmm mlgpro.com. So actually we have some of the highest paid competitive gamers in the world.

Hows CGS going? wait CPL? wait ESWC? wait.... why would they all be closing down if PC competitive gaming was going so well?.

The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults.
It is in its infancy! One thing it does have for it that PC gaming didn't have is MS with a (literally) US$1bn marketing budget. Give me $1bn and I'll turn PC gaming into something neat too.

I dunno if it's just me but that mlgpro website takes forf*****gever to load so I couldn't even check it out.

Xbox 360 "pro gaming" has a pretty good chance of surviving for a while, because your next hardware refresh won't be until like 2012. In 2012 PC gamers will be lightyears ahead so it'll be a totally different market - it's good in terms of technology, etc, but it's bad because that rapid evolution means there's little incentive to stay playing the same old crusty games (exception: Counter-Strike, which I fully anticipate will still be getting played).
03:53pm 03/09/09 Permalink
baz
Melbourne, Victoria
15 posts
i think pc gaming is the way to go , more options and customization for starters.
11:29pm 26/09/09 Permalink
L33tBix
Queensland
1 posts
greazy said: 'I don't know, some games are just better on a console'.

I have to agree with you on that. I find racing/sport games more fun on consoles rather than PC.
03:25pm 06/01/10 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
3712 posts
Awesome. Flashback to a conversation in September 2009!

Welcome, friend.
03:28pm 06/01/10 Permalink
infi
Brisbane, Queensland
14819 posts
conslol?
03:36pm 06/01/10 Permalink
Martz
Brisbane, Queensland
2464 posts
I find racing/sport games more fun on consoles rather than PC.


I don't get why people think this? You can hook up a PC to your 52" LCD whateva in living room and play sports/racing games from the comfort of your lounge with smoother and better graphics.. Is it the effort of hooking up a pc to tv in living room why sport/racing games is deemed less fun than consoles? My cousin lent me GRID for PS3, I played it for 5 min and turned the s*** off.. Wen't back to playing GRID on PC with far better graphics.

The latest racing wheel G27 is compatible with PS3 and PC..

last edited by Martz at 16:29:03 06/Jan/10
04:26pm 06/01/10 Permalink
Midda
Brisbane, Queensland
4405 posts
It's pretty likely noone will ever make a multiplayer game than can talk across platforms like this, mostly for technical reasons - unless MS decide to make Live for Windows not suck and people start using it for dedicated servers and they design it in such a way that they can talk to the console clients as well.

I know this thread is old, but I didn't see this comment from Trog. Cross-platform FPS was done a few years back with Shadowrun on 360 and Windows. It was tested, and the console player got destroyed.
04:48pm 06/01/10 Permalink
sleepy
Sunshine Coast, Queensland
1162 posts
the only thing i think consoles have in their favour is levelling the playing field with online pub play.

if you are all playing on the same machine its only a few minor settings that can be adjusted.
PC pub games will always have that element of better pc better chance of winning.

keyboard mouse will always be better for fps.

12:18am 07/01/10 Permalink
Tollaz0r!
Brisbane, Queensland
10161 posts

Cross-platform FPS was done a few years back with Shadowrun on 360 and Windows. It was tested, and the console player got destroyed.


So badly that the Shadowrun developers had to put in artificial slow downs to the mouse turning and whatnot.

From wiki:


Because of the lack of 'pixel-accuracy' with the Xbox 360 analog thumbstick, the designers have included an aim-assisting technology, which basically interpolates the player's movement and causes the reticle to stay over an enemy player like a weak magnet. In addition, FASA has implemented a feature which causes the cross-hair to expand during quick movements, thus lowering the player's accuracy, making it impossible to quickly turn and maintain accuracy, reducing the potential advantage of playing with a mouse.[6][7] PC players, who have a more sensitive control scheme, are able to turn significantly faster than their controller-using counterparts and would have gained an unfair advantage.


So Consolers got aimbot and PC uses got nerfed haha.
12:45am 07/01/10 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
2671 posts
Martz you answered your own question.

I couldn't be bothered hooking my computer up to the TV. they're in different areas of the house, I probably have the cabling for it but no idea where they are. no idea what resolution to set so its clear on the tv.

also: local multiplayer. its just so much easier on a console.
01:07am 07/01/10 Permalink
DM
Gold Coast, Queensland
1286 posts
there is no way you can aim with a s***** controller as well as with mouse

I've been playing FPS games since doom and I STILL can't aim right. I suck so bad and have never improved.
01:37am 07/01/10 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
3740 posts
On the "FPS on conslol" issue - I think it's much harder to adapt between games. It's pretty easy to go from one FPS to another on PC, and you can adapt with the mouse. On conslol I find it much harder though.
09:19am 07/01/10 Permalink
Coggernaught
Adelaide, South Australia
1 posts
So console gamers are s*** because they use a platform that makes it harder to aim?
Right...
01:24am 13/01/10 Permalink
ctd
Brisbane, Queensland
8147 posts
So console gamers are s*** because they use a platform that makes it harder to aim?

Console games are s***
01:55am 13/01/10 Permalink
fpot
Gold Coast, Queensland
16861 posts
Yeah the PC has heaps of awesome exclusive titles like... ummm...
01:56am 13/01/10 Permalink
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