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Post by Dan @ 11:47am 11/01/13 | 40 Comments
Less than two weeks into the new year that brought with it the introduction of an R18+ category for the classification of videogames in Australia, the Australian Classification Board has reportedly handed down it's first R-rated evaluation, giving the honours to the upcoming Ninja: Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge, Team Ninja's upcoming port of the successful action game, tailored for the Wii U's unique features (via VG247):
The Classification Board awarded the debut R18+ rating for Razor’s Edge’s “strong, bloody violence”. Classification Board director Lesley O’Brien said in a statement that video games which have a “high impact” are not suitable for ages below 18.

“Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge contains violence that is high in impact because of its frequency, high definition graphics, and emphasis on blood effects,” she explained.
The original Ninja Gaiden 3 on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 was rated MA15+ (and AusGamers 7.3/10) under the previous classification guidelines, and although it's uncertain what specific features may have pushed the Wii U version into the new category, it is expected to have some new more gorier features, such as the restoration of "enemies’ ability to fight with severed arms or legs".

Watch the latest gameplay trailer for Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge from last month, embedded below.

An Australian release date for Razor's Edge has yet to be defined, however the game has already been available in North America since the Wii U launch in November 18th 2012, and launches in Europe tomorrow.

Sales and marketing of Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge will now be restricted in Australia in a similar way to R18+ films are, with sales to minors carrying penalties according to state legislation. Queensland is the only Australia state still unprepared for the new rating, with state parliament due to move forward on the matter in February.




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ravn0s
Posted 01:38pm 11/1/13
bah just made a post (deleted it) about this because there's no news appearing on the qgl main page.

i was kind of hoping that the new GOW game would be the first.
Hogfather
Posted 02:08pm 11/1/13
The original Ninja Gaiden 3 on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 was rated MA15+ (and AusGamers 7.3/10) under the previous classification guidelines, and although it's uncertain what specific features may have pushed the Wii U version into the new category, it is expected to have some new more gorier features, such as the restoration of "enemies’ ability to fight with severed arms or legs".

Could be, or it could also be that R18 is just the new MA15+ :(
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge is rated "M" for Mature by the ESRB

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/QoGCphUzUctiC4cvrnVz0jtCaX4IoL7I

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WirlWind
Posted 02:25pm 11/1/13
Hogfather, been saying it since they decided on doing the R rating that nothing would change.

The R rating was brought out to pander to conservative parents, not to help adult gamers have more options.

Expect a lot more of this sort of thing, games that get RC'd will likely still get RC'd. But now, GTA 5 will be R instead of MA and nothing will have really changed.
Dan
Posted 02:31pm 11/1/13
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge is rated "M" for Mature by the ESRB
"M" for Mature is the ESRB's 17+ rating, very, very few games achieve the AO stamp.
Hogfather
Posted 02:41pm 11/1/13
Yeh I get that Dan, but I'm just not convinced that the R18 will prevent anything being RC'd, and that this game needed to be R at all, and that the R18 rating saved gaiden 3 from RC. The ESRB rating didn't shift but the AU one did.

Your article implies that the new title must somehow be worse than the previous MA15+ title in the series, is there any basis at all for this?
Hogfather, been saying it since they decided on doing the R rating that nothing would change. ... But now, GTA 5 will be R instead of MA and nothing will have really changed.

I've been saying this for ages dude :) What we'll see is lots of violent games shunting from MA15+ to R and no real change, I'm actually wondering if MORE games will be RC because developers won't edit them down to our prissy censorship levels.
Dan
Posted 02:48pm 11/1/13
Hogfather: I absolutely get where you're coming from, but I do we think we're going to see looser restrictions eventually, just perhaps not straight away when there's much scrutiny.

Here's a good point of view which I wholeheartedly agree with, written by a guy that used to review submitted games at the OFLC, and was also Australian PR manager for Rockstar through several GTAs; http://www.mcvpacific.com/news/read/opinion-why-r18-will-make-a-difference/0104517
trog
Posted 04:04pm 11/1/13
Everyone better buy this f*****g game!@#
Khel
Posted 04:06pm 11/1/13
Unless your in QLD, where it wont be available for sale
trog
Posted 04:07pm 11/1/13
I assume someone will bring a bootfull of copies in a daring border dash up from NSW, or possibly driving in from the desert from NT.
deadlyf
Posted 04:40pm 11/1/13
The R rating was brought out to pander to conservative parents, not to help adult gamers have more options.
...what? Who was against an R rating if not conservative parents?
carson
Posted 04:46pm 11/1/13
Here's hoping the next COD game makes R18+. Bwahaha.
Phooks
Posted 05:49pm 11/1/13
Phooks
Posted 05:52pm 11/1/13
was this the game with that really controversial boob physics?
copuis
Posted 06:00pm 11/1/13
hang on, dont we have a non bomb making muslim that imports games,

surely importing games from other states is easier than overseas
Khel
Posted 06:21pm 11/1/13
Yeah I'm sure it wont be hard to get a copy, I was just making a note about how stupid the whole thing with QLD not adopting R18+ yet is.
Kimbo
Posted 07:21pm 11/1/13
Unless your in QLD, where it wont be available for sale


What if you buy it in NSW and cross the border?
Mosfx
Posted 07:55pm 11/1/13
lol who would of thought Nintendo with Australia's first R18+ game.
WirlWind
Posted 08:00pm 11/1/13
...what? Who was against an R rating if not conservative parents?


The conservative parents were, but with the pressure both both sides, they went with the easy option:

Have the R rating be stupidly conservative so they can point to the parents who complained and say "See? It didn't let smut in" and appease the vocal gamers because we'd sound ungrateful because we got what we asked for.

As I said, it's pandering towards the conservative parents and hasn't changed a thing, except for the letter on the front of the box.
Kimbo
Posted 12:05am 12/1/13
The conservative parents were, but with the pressure both both sides, they went with the easy option:Have the R rating be stupidly conservative so they can point to the parents who complained and say "See? It didn't let smut in" and appease the vocal gamers because we'd sound ungrateful because we got what we asked for.As I said, it's pandering towards the conservative parents and hasn't changed a thing, except for the letter on the front of the box.


It has to be 'in-law', if its not on a piece of paper. Then there has to be a consensus and an uproar about it.
Phandaal
Posted 02:39pm 12/1/13
Whine whine whine.

What people fail to grasp is, that guidelines are a lot more flexible and easy to change than the law of the land. We have an R rating for video games now. That is fantastic, and people need to show a little more joy and gratitude to the folks that campaigned their asses of to make it happen.
Hogfather
Posted 03:22pm 12/1/13
^ lol at this guy
Spook
Posted 03:25pm 12/1/13
lol who would of thought Nintendo with Australia's first R18+ game.


not sure why you think that is funny

Khel
Posted 03:25pm 12/1/13
Do you think the people who campaigned for it would be happy with an R rating that states made up, unsupported s*** like

"Due to the interactive nature of computer games and the active repetitive involvement of the participant, as a general rule computer games may have a higher impact than similarly themed depictions of the classifiable elements in film, and therefore greater potential for harm or detriment"


as if it was fact?

I'm sure everyone is extremely grateful to the people who campaigned to get it in the first place, but isn't 'whining' about it and making noise what got it to happen in the first place? Don't see why we can't be happy we have it, but keep on the case of the people in charge to fix the mistakes.
ravn0s
Posted 03:36pm 12/1/13
not sure why you think that is funny


because nintendo is kiddie.
Spook
Posted 03:39pm 12/1/13
no they aren't, you are.
Hogfather
Posted 06:03pm 12/1/13
BE THANKFUL KHEL WHINER
paveway
Posted 06:33pm 12/1/13
R18 classified game for the wii? THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE
Spook
Posted 06:35pm 12/1/13
its wii-u matey, do try and keep up.
paveway
Posted 07:20pm 12/1/13
extra gimmicky!
Spook
Posted 07:24pm 12/1/13
needs MOAR polygons to be any fun hey!
paveway
Posted 07:50pm 12/1/13
Less polygons

ADD GIMMICKS
Linker
Posted 04:30pm 13/1/13
I can't believe people still have the "NINTENDO IS TEH KIDDIE" argument. Grow up people. It's not 1997.
Spook
Posted 04:34pm 13/1/13
i know bro, i know.
paveway
Posted 07:08pm 13/1/13
nope it's 2013 and it's still kiddie
Spook
Posted 07:21pm 13/1/13
its not actually.
Phandaal
Posted 07:43pm 13/1/13
@khel

If you read the paragraph that you quoted carefully, you will find there to be a strategically inserted "may" in it. Something that "may" contain X does not necessarily contain X. Computer games "may" also give you ghonarea, or "may" result in an infestation of puppies. Neither of these statements is incorrect, nor are either of them "presented as fact" as you claim.

Yes, the wording of the criteria seems watered down and borderline offensive to gamers at first blush. Carefully reexamining various aspects however, will show that the wording is quite open ended and left to the interpretation of the classification board. While this could certainly result in games previously given an MA now being classified R, it can just as easily resulting games that were RC now being classified as R.

The key to remember is, that this was achieved despite intense lobbying pressure from the ACL and other groups. Now that the law is in place, tweaking the criteria is orders of magnitude easier than getting the thing passed in the first place. Demanding that the wording have been perfect before the thing had been voted into law is breathtakingly foolish, and would have resulted in nothing being passed whatsoever.
Hogfather
Posted 08:20pm 13/1/13
its not actually.

Has COD on it, they may have a point :(
Hogfather
Posted 08:21pm 13/1/13
If you read the paragraph that you quoted carefully, you will find there to be a strategically inserted "may" in it. Something that "may" contain X does not necessarily contain X. Computer games "may" also give you ghonarea, or "may" result in an infestation of puppies. Neither of these statements is incorrect, nor are either of them "presented as fact" as you claim.

But they're using the statement as an official guideline, whereas your infestation of puppies thing is nowhere to be seen?
Phandaal
Posted 11:12pm 13/1/13
It's a guideline that's meaningless, inserted only to appease the semi-literate Christian lobby. A guideline that "may" have an impact also may not. It's basically just saying: make up your own mind.

I'm not saying we shouldn't keep pushing and questioning to get a better result down the road. It just feels like the first game to be rated R in Australia might be a cause to celebrate - regardless of the caveats - instead of falling back onto our tried and tested Geek cynicism.
Khel
Posted 01:15am 14/1/13
If you read the paragraph that you quoted carefully, you will find there to be a strategically inserted "may" in it. Something that "may" contain X does not necessarily contain X.


Pure and utter bulls***, saying that it may have a higher impact because its a video game implies that in some circumstances the statement is true, and yet theres absolutely no proof of that, and in fact there is research to the contrary. If the statement really is as nonsensical as you make it out to be with your strawman examples, then why shouldn't we be upset that its been passed as part of the country's official classification guidelines? Like I said, we can be happy we have it, and happy that an R rated game is coming out, without having to drink every last drop of the cool-aid.

Now that the law is in place, tweaking the criteria is orders of magnitude easier than getting the thing passed in the first place.


I'm sure it is, and it will get changed by people kicking up a fuss about it and pointing out how ridiculous it is. If its so meaningless, and its
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