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Post by Dan @ 02:06pm 26/07/12 | 36 Comments
Speaking at a recent videogame conference in Seattle, Valve Software founder Gabe Newell reportedly had a few enlightening things to say about the Steam platform-holder's outlook on the future of a digital world.

According to a report on allthingsd -- who have published a few choice cuts of the presentation between Newell and former Microsoft game publishing VP Ed Fries -- Newell isn't a fan of Microsoft's plans for Windows 8, indicating concern that it could cause the departure of top PC manufacturers to other pastures, and that Steam's Linux ambitions hope to perhaps help prevent that.
“The big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don’t realize how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior.

“We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.
The report also features comments from Newell on the evolution of user inputs and wearable computing, as well as thoughts on community monetisation and closed versus open platforms, which are also worth a read. However, it is the implication that elements of Windows 8 (which we presume are primarily the nature of Microsoft's new Apple-like Metro app store) have spurred Valve into action, is a significant consideration for the future of PC gaming, and a huge boon for Linux fans.

A release date has yet to be confirmed for Steam's arrival on Linux, but Linux versions of at least two games have been announced: Valve's Left 4 Dead 2 and Croteam's Serious Sam 3: BFE.



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skythra
Posted 02:20pm 26/7/12
hahah
thermite
Posted 02:25pm 26/7/12
What does hedging mean in this context? Where I'm from it means to push an unsuspecting student into a hedge.
skythra
Posted 02:31pm 26/7/12
What does hedging mean in this context? Where I'm from it means to push an unsuspecting student into a hedge.

Means making a second bet that if your main platform fails, you've taken a risk on another, opposing risk that should go well if yours fails.
Dazhel
Posted 02:33pm 26/7/12
Interesting candor. It puts the Steam move onto Mac into context as well.
Microsoft is looking like it wants to be Apple so much these days, but they keep misstepping.
They've come guns blazing from behind before, but can they do it again?

What does hedging mean in this context? Where I'm from it means to push an unsuspecting student into a hedge.

Gabe wants Valve Software and Steam to still exist in the event that Windows becomes irrelevant.
Looking at the Windows 8 mess there's a small but non-zero possibility that it could happen.
dais
Posted 02:34pm 26/7/12
I doubt it, people will just stick with Windows 7.
Dazhel
Posted 02:39pm 26/7/12
Sure for the meantime they will, but forever?
dais
Posted 02:44pm 26/7/12
Until Microsoft realise what they've done and make another decent OS.
skythra
Posted 03:20pm 26/7/12
This is blizzards tick tock, make a s*** OS before a much improved but essentially similar OS later. Comparisons will always heavily favor the one after the s***.
Khel
Posted 03:33pm 26/7/12
Yeah, I stuck with XP till Windows 7 came out, so I'm sure I'll be fine with Windows 7 till the next un-f***ed one after Windows 8 comes out.
dais
Posted 03:42pm 26/7/12
Still using XP :P

I have Windows 7 but I made the uninformed choice of wasting $300 on the Home "Premium" version which doesn't support the XP emulation. So I can't play all my awesome old games with it, like Powerslide and Homeworld.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 03:56pm 26/7/12
I went from XP to Win 7 also. I don't see a need for yet another operating system above Win 7 and Windows 8 doesn't offer anything substantial. 300% increasing in text rendering speed doesn't exactly make me swoon. I can't remember the last time I've twiddled my thumbs waiting for the screen to refresh the text I'm reading...
Mordecai
Posted 03:56pm 26/7/12
dais - I paid $50 for the windows 7 professional version. Yay student discount.
dais
Posted 03:58pm 26/7/12
Lucky, I wasn't a student at the time.
Bah
Posted 04:26pm 26/7/12
Gabe wants Valve Software and Steam to still exist in the event that Windows becomes irrelevant.
No, he wants steam to exist in case microsoft makes a closed app store for windows, like apple has for iphone.
Lithium
Posted 04:41pm 26/7/12
I haven't tried it yet, but whats so gay about Windows 8 and why doesn't old mate Gabe like it?
Deviouz
Posted 04:52pm 26/7/12
I was running 8 on a netbook since the first preview, and I hate it. It's like learning a whole new language at this stage in life after using a system for so long, it effects your speed and workflow when you have to relearn even the basics of using a program. I'm hoping its just the WinME/Vista of this generation and they move on, but I fear this is a foundation for bigger plans for MS, its a pitty.

On the upside alot of testing has shown DAWs (audio recording setups) run alot better....
Dazhel
Posted 04:53pm 26/7/12
I haven't tried it yet, but whats so gay about Windows 8 and why doesn't old mate Gabe like it?

It's a big redesign of the Windows UI for touch based devices & the desktop as we currently know it today is relegated to the background. That's a gamble in itself, though Gabe is also referring to Microsoft entering into the traditional OEM market space and releasing a tablet of their own (Surface), potentially undercutting their hardware partners.
hensun
Posted 05:55pm 26/7/12
I used windows 8 for about a month as my main OS, installed all my games transferred my music, pictures and videos. The only think i didnt take over was my work programs. But i can honestly say i think windows 8 is pretty good, fast and looks nice. I really dont get whats so "Hard" about it, if anything its easier than win7.

It might take a while, and a bit of convincing, but i think win8 will be more popular than win7. but it still needs some work before release.
mental
Posted 05:58pm 26/7/12
I'm still using it, can't be bothered re-installing 7, metro is just a fullscreen start menu to me, hardly use it (a couple of apps pinned to taskbar), but when I want to find something its easier to find full screen. Meh.
Khel
Posted 06:00pm 26/7/12
What does hedging mean in this context? Where I'm from it means to push an unsuspecting student into a hedge.


Where are you from? An episode of Happy Days?
Khel
Posted 06:03pm 26/7/12
'm still using it, can't be bothered re-installing 7, metro is just a fullscreen start menu to me, hardly use it (a couple of apps pinned to taskbar), but when I want to find something its easier to find full screen.


Sounds gay, I don't want a full screen start menu, I just want a start menu. The only time I'm ever looking at my desktop is when my PC has just started up, and when its shutting down, so I don't really want a UI built around everything being on my desktop =\
dais
Posted 06:11pm 26/7/12


I havent used it but it looks pretty good to me.

It makes sense that they would start developing it for tablets. The new desktop buttons will also make it slightly easier to use with a laptop touchpad too.
hensun
Posted 06:25pm 26/7/12

I havent used it but it looks pretty good to me.

It makes sense that they would start developing it for tablets. The new desktop buttons will also make it slightly easier to use with a laptop touchpad too.


Is is pretty good, few things i don't like about it is that its very claustrophobic. to much full screen going on, and metro and the desktop needs to be more integrated with each other and metro apps need more "desktop" functionality.
I just think steam is not happy about ms having a games store, they know that windows 8 will ship with new comps and it will be big, and people may just buy games on the win8 store instead of steam.
mental
Posted 06:30pm 26/7/12
I haven't got anything on my desktop except the recycle bin. On my keyboard I have 5 shortcut buttons that open the app on the task bar, so I have the five most used apps there. Everything else I start with metro which is easier for me to navigate than the normal start menu.

First thing I do when I turn the comp on is check qgl, so chrome is the first app so press power button, count to ten, hit enter it goes to the desktop and chrome is open full screen on qql.

I right click where the start menu used to be open and it brings up:
Win8+Power+Menu.png

Which I find heaps more useful to me than the old start menu. Everything else I open with Metro which is nicely organised and easy to find/read.

metro_appgroups.jpg

Windows + r still brings up run.

Hit Windows key and start typing the app and it will be there (a little quicker than old start menu)

Hit Windows + q and it brings up all apps (including ones you have unpinned from Metro, for example on Metro I have VLC and thats it, if I want to run VLC skinned or whatever else I hit Windows +q).

all-metro-apps.jpg

Each to their own though, I didn't like it for awhile, but after using it because I was too lazy to reinstall I'm used to it.

Should also add, most games I play are through Steam so after masturbating to qgl threads steam is right there next to the clock, ready to go.
dais
Posted 06:34pm 26/7/12
EDIT: Resize that sucker.

Is it possible to remove the IE icon from the desktop?
ravn0s
Posted 06:38pm 26/7/12
i don't want tiles covering my whole screen. i guess it's a good thing i wont be buying win8.
mental
Posted 06:41pm 26/7/12
Resize? Looks fine here.

Yep, ie is unpinned from the taskbar.

What about direct x 11.1 which will probably be Windows 8 exclusive and tied into a lot of future games because of the next xbox and windows mobiles being tied into the Windows 8 core?
hensun
Posted 06:52pm 26/7/12
Yepp, the one thing i really do like about win8 is that everything can me uninstalled, or unpinned. For example if there is a better music app on the store i can download that and uninstal the default windows music app.

Also games works even better on win8, battlefield 3 is noticeably smoother on win8 and win7. I really do like the new start screen, its is alot better than the old one. The only time i used the start screen was when i wanted to get to my docs, computer and stuff like that, and pinned programs. Never used the all program thing, that was horrible. I just dont like how the new start screen in in your face i wish the task bar was still there in the new start screen.
ravn0s
Posted 07:49pm 26/7/12

Yepp, the one thing i really do like about win8 is that everything can me uninstalled, or unpinned.


you can already do that in current windows versions...
Khel
Posted 08:22pm 26/7/12
What about direct x 11.1 which will probably be Windows 8 exclusive and tied into a lot of future games because of the next xbox and windows mobiles being tied into the Windows 8 core?


Games have only in the past 6 months or so really started using DX11 though, and even then most can still fall back to DX9, so I don't imagine theres going to be any games that require Windows 8 or higher for a while.
mental
Posted 11:16pm 26/7/12
I would expect that to jump quickly if the next xbox is windows 8 based, it would make porting extremely easy. Was just asking if that would be incentive to go to Windows 8.

They way I see it, microsoft know windows 8 won't be that popular to begin with, they are having enough trouble getting people from xp to 7. So they can test the waters with 8, introduce new ways of doing things so when windows 9 comes along people will be more open to it through the spread of windows 8 on tablets/phones/new computers/etc. Get a hook in the tablet market, strengthen their mobile market, make money through apps and get people used to doing things differently.
hensun
Posted 11:42pm 26/7/12
you can already do that in current windows versions...


yeah, but some tabs doesnt allow you to uninstalled preinstalled apps. Im just saying that im happy that ms isnt forcing you to use their apps.
DM
Posted 11:35pm 26/7/12
Yeah Gabe has called Win8 a catastrophe so wants to get linux in on the steam action. It's a nice look for phones I suppose but for a desktop with no touchscreen ability it seems flat out s***.
parabol
Posted 11:44pm 26/7/12
Interestingly HL had OpenGL support thanks to its Quake 2 roots, but Valve stripped it from HL2 onwards, then added it back in for the OSX versions and it'll have to be included for the Linux port.

Also interesting is that two of the founders (one of whom is Gabe Newell) are ex-Microsoft employees, who you would think would be sticking to Direct3D no matter what.
Rdizz
Posted 11:45pm 26/7/12
I couldn't warrant myself to upgrade from 7 to 8 yet. There really isn't anything new other than that start screen that my system isn't already setup to do eg the ISO thing or the copy thing (tera copy is still most likely better) and I would still rather use msconfig than that other s***.. A few new bits of flashy GUI is not enough to sway me.
mental
Posted 06:27am 27/7/12
There is a lot of background changes that make everything faster and more stable. Its windows 7.1 with Metro on top. Still needs work though, the copy/paste is great except when you pause a transfer it doesn't unpause it when t finishes the first transfer, so you can't do a heap of copies, pause all but the first and walk away.
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