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Post by Steve Farrelly @ 12:35pm 13/06/12 | 18 Comments
There's no denying it's been a tough year for THQ. Job losses, poor performances and scaled back titles has shown nothing but a downward scope for a publisher whose only goal is to focus on core gaming.

Recently we reported that friend of the site, Danny Bilson, was let go from the firm as their core games boss, replaced with Naughty Dog co-Founder, Jason Rubin. However, Rubin's entry has already rocked the boat a little, with comments made recently to Polygon that he not only wants to grow THQ's flagship title, Saints Row, up, but that he's embarrassed by its potty humour and over-the-top adult themes.

"Why couldn't [Saints Row] be a Red Dead Redemption or a Skyrim?" Rubin asked said. "I look at that title and I say "who cares what it is and why it got to be what it is?" From that team we can make something that isn't embarrassing.

"It works for South Park, but I'm not sure it does elsewhere," he added. "I don't think [Volition] chose to do what they did because they had all of the options available to them. It was the environment at the time. I know I can change that."

Ironically, recent comments by THQ head, Brian Farrell, talks about how digital sales of content for Saints Row: The Third is part of the reason they're rebounding from "rock bottom".

"We're starting to pull out a little bit," he said of THQ's renewed focus. "Don't take my word for it, but if you look at our Q4 financial results, we look at that as a template for our future.

"We have high-quality games," he continued. "A lot of the upside came from the digital downloads coming from Saints Row: The Third. So you ship a successful game, and the follow-on digital revenue is really strong. We had great cash flow as the result of those two things."

It'll be interesting to see how Rubin's focus on the company maintains against its traditional, and clearly proven strides with a game like Saints Row: The Third, but one thing's for sure, they definitely need some form of shake-up, and perhaps the Naughty Dog co-founder is the man to do it.

"Getting Jason Rubin was a huge win," Farrell said. "He is a smart, creative, but disciplined guy who has a vision to do even better on the core side. We also share a vision for where the industry is going and where the core business is going on a digital level. I'm personally re-energised. I think a lot of the company is too."












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fryzeegunner
Posted 12:36pm 13/6/12
but that's what makes saints row good....
Trauma
Posted 12:47pm 13/6/12
I disagree, I lost interest in Saints after about an hour, same shit over and over. GTA pisses all over it.
Grundar
Posted 12:50pm 13/6/12
Well, he's right, gratuitous themes of sex and violence don't make for a great reputation and certainly don't make you a respected games developer or publisher, well liked perhaps by those who devour such content and crave more of the same, but not respected.

It is a massive money spinner for them though. Would a Saints Row 4 without that be anywhere near as successful?

Maybe Rubin could turn it about, maybe he could make a title such as Saints Row a must have game for it's quality as opposed to simply it's base content.
do0b
Posted 01:02pm 13/6/12
i enjoyed saints 2 and 3 heaps more than the later gta games. GTA feels so slow and boring in comparison.
fpot
Posted 01:34pm 13/6/12
After playing RDR and MP3 I have come to the conclusion that GTA5 will fucking own.
Trauma
Posted 01:38pm 13/6/12
They could also stop fucking up IP's and simply give it a new name, setting and narrative. This goes for the whole industry, Ubisoft most of all imo.
d^
Posted 01:48pm 13/6/12
"Why couldn't [Saints Row] be a Red Dead Redemption or a Skyrim?" Rubin asked said. "I look at that title and I say "who cares what it is and why it got to be what it is?" From that team we can make something that isn't embarrassing.

Fix some typos Steve!
carson
Posted 03:03pm 13/6/12
I loved Saints Row 3 more than GTA4. The humour, action and missions were a lot more fun than GTA.
ShwaMiller86
Posted 03:54pm 13/6/12
The whole point of Saints Row is to fill the void GTA left when it moved on from similar immaturity and cartoonish ultra-violence.

Go ahead, give the team a new IP that is serious, but don't make Saints Row serious. It's like taking Brothers in Arms the direction Gearbox is with their latest addition. Make that game, just don't trash a franchise with it!
Tribal07
Posted 04:50pm 13/6/12
Gta nowadays has gone to a more serious setting, which is fine it worked with gta IV etc, they do have a couple of humour bits in them still.
Saints Row should stay what it is IMO, I loved saints row 2&3 just because of the insanity, humour and fun. If THQ go ahead and decide to make saints row 4 into a serious game i'm not buying it at all.
Dan
Posted 04:57pm 13/6/12
Gta nowadays has gone to a more serious setting, which is fine it worked with gta IV etc
It really didnt. The story and characters were far and away the weakest point of GTA4. Back in Vice City when they were still having fun, the story and characters were much more appropriate for the game.
Khel
Posted 05:06pm 13/6/12
Yeah, GTA4's story was pretty dull, I really had to force myself to finish it. On the contrary, I've been finding Saint's Row 3 ridiculously fun (emphasis on the ridiculous). Why would anyone be embarassed about making such an awesome, fun, successful game?
fpot
Posted 05:09pm 13/6/12
I had the most fun with GTA4 after I had finished the game just going on rampages and flying helicopters.
Mordecai
Posted 06:06pm 13/6/12
If we are going to link to an article from another website can we at least add in the editors note after the bit about the game being embarrassing?

Ed's note: To be clear, Rubin isn't saying that he's embarrassed of the game or that he's not a fan of Saints Row or proud of Volition. What he's saying is that he hopes that despite my feelings, that the team can impress me in the future. I followed up with Rubin after this interview ran and he reiterated that, adding that he both loved Saints Row the Third and that he thinks the team is capable of more.

"Those two things are not mutually exclusive," he said.


I think that is a very important part of the article which changes how the article should be perceived.
BladeRunner
Posted 08:57pm 13/6/12
SR3 is nice but I would not mind seeing it different, I liked SR 1 and 2 more overall then 3. Now GTA4 was more of a serious game with a few little bits of humor and things in it. I would say GTA 5 would be following that path.

I do agree that instead of wrecking current IPs with new ideas and gameplay they should make a spin off or a new IP for it. So if THQ is going to more more of a serious Saints Row, they should call it something different and change the setting etc. Another expample of wrecking IPs is Dragon Age 2, If Bioware wanted to make a console arcade game then go make it and leave Dragon Age alone.
Sn4tch3r
Posted 11:00pm 13/6/12
Hang on... A humourless Saints row. So a humourless open world game in which you shoot people do cool missions and drive cars. This guy sore the Watch Dogs demo too I guess. Must be kicking himself he didn't come up with it first. Oh well just copy it like GTA.
Sn4tch3r
Posted 11:00pm 13/6/12
saw*
typo
Posted 03:08am 17/6/12
I had the most fun with GTA4 after I had finished the game just going on rampages and flying helicopters.


That is pretty much the entirety of Saints Row 3. Except, add nudity, corny combat, over the top situations, zombies, fighter planes, and making fun of people you run over.

Oh, at Burt Reynolds.
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