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Post by Nerfy @ 03:17am 13/08/11 | 60 Comments
Some big news today with the announcement from Valve about a new Counter-Strike title:
Next Gen Console, PC, and Mac Release Targeted for Early 2012

August 13, 2011 – Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Team Fortress) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today announced Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS: GO).

Targeted for release via Playstation Network, Xbox Live Arcade, and Steam (for PC and Mac) in early 2012, CS: GO will expand upon the team-based action gameplay that it pioneered when it was launched exactly 12 years ago (CS beta 1, August 1999).

CS: GO features new maps, characters, and weapons and delivers updated versions of the classic CS content (de_dust, etc.). In addition, CS: GO will introduce new gameplay modes, matchmaking, leader boards, and more.

“Counter-Strike took the gaming industry by surprise when the unlikely MOD became the most played online PC action game in the world almost immediately after its release in August 1999,” said Doug Lombardi, VP of Marketing at Valve. “For the past 12 years, it has continued to be one of the most-played games in the world, headline competitive gaming tournaments and selling over 25 million units worldwide across the franchise. CS: GO promises to expand on CS’ award-winning gameplay and deliver it to gamers on the PC as well as the next gen consoles and the Mac.”

CS: GO is being developed by Valve in cooperation with Seattle-based Hidden Path Entertainment. The title is targeted for release in early 2012 and will be playable at this year’s PAX Prime and London Games Festival.
There's a page up for it at Steampowered.com; stay tuned for more info! promoted/edited forum item












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ctd
Posted 04:46am 13/8/11
Game of the year already
Mosfxx
Posted 07:15am 13/8/11
Woo be interesting to see what they've done.
Fade2Black
Posted 08:25am 13/8/11
I thought Valve bought the rights to CS from someone who developed the original betas?
maRtz
Posted 09:05am 13/8/11
Mark my words, this could kill the CS franchise once and for all.
ravn0s
Posted 09:58am 13/8/11
lol just read the rumour on kotaku last night about it and wake up this morning to see it's true. cant wait to see what it looks like.

i guess this is the third big valve reveal this year. so no hl3 :(

last edited by ravn0s at 09:58:56 13/Aug/11
trog
Posted 10:07am 13/8/11
Mark my words, this could kill the CS franchise once and for all.
That implies it's in the process of being killed or has been suffering killing-like things. The only thing that has bumped CSS off the most-played-FPS-games-in-the-world list is the brief periods when people are playing new CoD or Battlefield games. After a few months though they fall off the list as everyone gets bored, but CSS is still going strong with huge player numbers.
teq
Posted 10:10am 13/8/11
so we can now have another version of an old FPS and we get to fork over $50~ (probably?) for the privilege?

at least Valve are green (recycling)
gamer
Posted 10:34am 13/8/11
Who made CS? Was it a single person or a team?

What happened to them over the years? Are they millionairs or did they sell it to valve for $15,000 thinking that was alot at the time and nowdays it's worth millions?

Would love to see a doco on CS (the mod) to current day and the original author(s)...
Trauma
Posted 10:40am 13/8/11
Mark my words, this could kill the CS franchise once and for all.

One can only hope.
Python
Posted 10:41am 13/8/11
Leaked screen shot below

link
arkter
Posted 10:50am 13/8/11
I don't know why they are bothering... it's just going to be the same... might as well call it.... COUNTERSTRIKE: AK VS COLT +maybe some awp

wonder if it will be source engine again? because its starting to look a bit cruddy by modern standards
Tiny
Posted 10:56am 13/8/11
fkn lol python.

Teq every fps game is an FPS game. I don't understand what point you are trying to make. I expect they will hopefully expand on the current game type and it won't just be about defusing the bomb!. Battlefield is a constantly re-jigged franchise yet it still gets numbers because the style of play is proven.
scuzzy
Posted 11:23am 13/8/11
so we can now have another version of an old FPS and we get to fork over $50~ (probably?) for the privilege?
oh noes valves is forcing me to buy their games!
Reality
Posted 11:25am 13/8/11
so we can now have another version of an old FPS and we get to fork over $50~ (probably?) for the privilege?


this has never happened before WHAT AN OUTRAGE
Tepid
Posted 11:40am 13/8/11
as long as there's no f*****g hats
ravn0s
Posted 11:50am 13/8/11
it will probably be free with micro transactions. you will use your real money to buy weapons at the start of each round.
Midda
Posted 11:51am 13/8/11
Mark my words, this could kill the CS franchise once and for all.

What? How? That doesn't make any sense.

Next Gen Console, PC, and Mac Release Targeted for Early 2012

F*****g hell, I really wish people would stop calling 5-6 year old game consoles "next-gen." It's current-gen, ffs.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 11:56am 13/8/11
OMG, maybe the will remake AS_OILRIG, that map was pure win. So much win, in fact, that mere noobs couldn't confront it and it was placed in the top shelf of CS servers where they couldn't see or touch it. Many-a-VIP stabbed an unsuspecting terrorist in that map.
ctd
Posted 12:22pm 13/8/11
Yeah br0 totally going to kill CS from 1999 which is still the most played game on steam.

Wow! just looked at the tf2 stats on steam... it has gotten more popular? or is that a spike like Terraria?

I'd love to see es_ and as_ maps back! How good was that vent into the CT spawn on oilrig :P or when they added an APC to cs_seige and you could reverse every c*** into wall blocking the whole team! memories!

last edited by ctd at 12:22:42 13/Aug/11
Sc00bs
Posted 12:30pm 13/8/11
Mark my words, this could kill the CS franchise once and for all.


lol yeah right, obviously you havent been playing since the beta versions of it.

Because no version of the game could ruin years and years of awesome memories playing it.

sounds alright, hope they do upgrade the engine/physics and graphics to be up-to-date

I remember when HL2 came out and the physics system was amazing and ground breaking
Sc00bs
Posted 12:31pm 13/8/11
the amount of people that liked the AS maps especially oilrig and seige, it would be silly to not bring them back
JakeG
Posted 12:35pm 13/8/11
I predict this to be even more noob friendly than source.
Raider
Posted 12:57pm 13/8/11
Bring back cs_desert, cs_alley1 and cs_docks amirite oldschoolers OR AM I FKN RIGHT.

I hope they don't change it to more like bf.. if i wanted to play bf i'd play bf, if i wanted to play cs i'd play cs, if i wanted to play a game where i get called a cheater because i'm destroying and get 2 huey's and kicked by an admin in the first time i've played for 3 months i'd play black ops.
Sc00bs
Posted 12:59pm 13/8/11
f*** docks was awesome map =)

siege and oilrig are probably my most missed maps that i can remember

bring back bunny-hopping option for servers, that s*** was fun as.
JakeG
Posted 01:02pm 13/8/11
Plenty of links and info here:

http://counterstrikego.com/

Review from Torbull - 20 CSS pro gamers invited to pre-beta test.

http://www.eseanews.com/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=9969
ravn0s
Posted 01:11pm 13/8/11
I'd love to see es_ and as_ maps back! How good was that vent into the CT spawn on oilrig :P or when they added an APC to cs_seige and you could reverse every c*** into wall blocking the whole team! memories!


best part of oilrig was if you were a terrorist and spawned in the birds nest above ct spawn. you could jump down through the window in ct spawn and wipe them out before they had even left spawn.

the apc in siege was awesome. i used to love f*****g around with it and getting it stuck in the walls/bridge.

i hope they do bring back the AS game type. i miss oilrig and tundra.
Sc00bs
Posted 01:28pm 13/8/11
What was the AS_ map that was like in a casino type place and the CT's had to get to the roof to a helipad?

Had like swat ropes you climb down etc.. f*** what was it called :/

last edited by Sc00bs at 13:28:31 13/Aug/11
ravn0s
Posted 01:28pm 13/8/11
only casino map i can think of is vegas, but it was a de map.
Sc00bs
Posted 01:35pm 13/8/11
yay
link

as_highrise

that was an awesome map =) tundra was also fun, most of the as maps where fun tbo
kr0wb4r
Posted 01:37pm 13/8/11
<3'd oilrig.

Was so good being the VIP once you knew all the trick jumping spots you could get too da choppa really fast before t's set up.


Will keep an eye on this, would be keen.
ravn0s
Posted 01:38pm 13/8/11
ahh i remember that one now. yeah most AS maps were fun.

i liked most maps. i miss survivor, storm, rotterdam, vertigo, backalley. i loved de_deep6.
thermite
Posted 01:45pm 13/8/11
Who made CS? Was it a single person or a team?

What happened to them over the years? Are they millionairs or did they sell it to valve for $15,000 thinking that was alot at the time and nowdays it's worth millions?

Would love to see a doco on CS (the mod) to current day and the original author(s)...


Minh Le and Jess Cliffe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minh_Le
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jess_Cliffe

Both got hired by Valve but Minh Le is now working on his own new CS type game.

I know some of the mappers that contributed to the game got hired by Gearbox, and others committed suicide.

The problem I have with CS is that everyone that plays regularly on the only maps that are available (dust and office) have the gameplay down to a formula, so it gets boring quickly. There isn't enough variety to keep people on their toes like in the pre-source days.

last edited by thermite at 13:45:52 13/Aug/11
Sc00bs
Posted 01:42pm 13/8/11
i completely forgot about vertigo and rotterdam, f*** vertigo was a fun rush map

yeah bring back some old maps ffs, soooo over office and dust 2.

Thats all every server plays and when you find a server playing something like italy you go in and its some bulls*** zombie server.

After optus got rid of their CS servers it all started going downhill.
Bah
Posted 02:46pm 13/8/11
Are they millionairs or did they sell it to valve
Like most mod licenses valve own it the second you make it, they could have just taken it and given the makers nothing if they wanted.
Timmeh
Posted 02:51pm 13/8/11
NEW GAME MODES NUF SAID
paveway
Posted 03:10pm 13/8/11
defs be giving this a go, might wait for this to come out before getting battlefield incase i like it better
Fade2Black
Posted 05:18pm 13/8/11
Goddamn I used to love the AS maps.

Oilrig was easily my favourite but also siege, MILITIA!!! and assault.

I also used to love mansion or whatever the similar one was called. I used to mp5 or AK rush straight out the first window I could find and try to get to CT spawn.


Ahhh those were the days.
trog
Posted 05:20pm 13/8/11
Like most mod licenses valve own it the second you make it, they could have just taken it and given the makers nothing if they wanted.
I don't think that is true at all
Timmeh
Posted 05:46pm 13/8/11
and de_contra love?
cs_militia
I remember playing sauce and the only server that ran cs_militia was games.on.net then they shut it downa nd i stopped playing.
Sc00bs
Posted 05:57pm 13/8/11
went to check servers and yet again office and dust are the only non-zombie and non-surf maps being played on all servers =( boo
Timmeh
Posted 06:01pm 13/8/11
went to check servers and yet again office and dust are the only non-zombie and non-surf maps being played on all servers =( boo

it ah sbeen like that since late 09, kinda sad when I load up CS:S its normally for a couple of games of Gungame
d^
Posted 12:30am 14/8/11
One of the internode servers has a map rotation for those interested, it's #29.
The GuVna
Posted 09:31am 14/8/11
The most fun I ever had in CS was accidentally griefing teammates driving the APC back in cs_seige many many years ago :)

link
ravn0s
Posted 09:57am 14/8/11
heh just noticed title is wrong. its global offensive not global operations.
Nerfy
Posted 03:05pm 14/8/11
I take no blame, fairly sure it was copy-pasted. :p
glynd
Posted 02:27pm 14/8/11
the servers are what killed cs for me ... bring back vertigo and militia :P
oddjob
Posted 07:09pm 14/8/11
And so valve continues its abandonment of the PC ,multiplatform is 1 thing=S***
What happened to valve?
FraktuRe
Posted 07:11pm 14/8/11
wow oddjob, what a s*** post.

cs has been on consoles for f*****g years.
Vicarious
Posted 07:33pm 14/8/11
Marek ".PhP" Kadek is one of the players in seattle. This is what he wrote on Playzone.cz :
- this game is not going to replace CS 1.6, or CS:S, it is primary made for consoles, PC version is just kind of a "bonus"
- at the moment, the game looks more like HL2DM
- There is no recoil and there will never be. (because of the consoles)
- the game runs on L4D2 engine
- SourceTV is NOT a priority
- they are working on match making system
- new money system
- no kevlar (this should be fixed in the future)
- maps are simplyfied for XBOX style, less ways, most fights are close range
- Hidden Path (Valve only finances the game) is trying to make all weapons balanced.
Protius
Posted 07:45pm 14/8/11
Sounds s*** house.
thermite
Posted 08:17pm 14/8/11
it is primary made for consoles, PC version is just kind of a "bonus"


And so valve continues its abandonment of the PC ,multiplatform is 1 thing=S***
What happened to valve?
Nitro
Posted 08:43pm 14/8/11
I did some reading up on this and it sounds absolutely s*** unforatunately. Valve f***ed CS to begin with and now they have some random lackeys trying to make some sor to half-way update to CS with in put from CS:S nubs.
Eorl
Posted 08:50pm 14/8/11
And so valve continues its expansion as a games developer and business, going multiplatform = new ideas, however scary or stubborn they may be.
What happened to valve?
Rdizz
Posted 09:09pm 14/8/11
ugh.. needs dx11
koopz
Posted 09:24pm 14/8/11
The most fun I ever had in CS was accidentally griefing teammates driving the APC back in cs_seige many many years ago :)


they made a mod for CS called 'Surf' which popped up in TF2 as well.

It's way more fun the original game, and the maps are all made by the community.

TF2 was a very nice looking game, though Surf mod kicks the crap out of it. It's a shame there's more hack servers out there where players go for free hats and stuff than Surf mode servers.

Nice to see that 3FL still has one though.

They need to make that 3.
ctd
Posted 01:58am 15/8/11

Marek ".PhP" Kadek is one of the players in seattle. This is what he wrote on Playzone.cz :


Don't really care for competitive gaming so as long as it is still fun for a bash I will be happy. He is a lot less enthusiastic compared with this dude :P http://www.eseanews.com/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=9969

Hidden Path did that defense grid game which is pretty fun and they 'contributed' to CS:S

last edited by ctd at 01:58:47 15/Aug/11
trog
Posted 10:12am 15/8/11
Don't really care for competitive gaming so as long as it is still fun for a bash I will be happy. He is a lot less enthusiastic compared with this dude :P http://www.eseanews.com/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=9969

Hidden Path did that defense grid game which is pretty fun and they 'contributed' to CS:Slast edited by ctd at 01:58:47 15/Aug/11
good write up; I thought this bit was good: "I have my fair share of concerns about how what apparently seems to be a console game built on the Source engine will port over to the PC. Is this a "half game" that serves a greater strategic purpose for the development of the Steam platform? By their own words, CS GO is a new game not meant to replace 1.6 or Source. Is this simply a political statement to help fend off unrealistic expectations?"
Dazhel
Posted 10:39am 15/8/11
Valve f***ed CS to begin with


At the last Lansmash I was at they had big long separate tables - one for CS:S players and one for everyone else.

I'm wouldn't disagree with your assessment, but think of it this way: CS:S exists as a handy way to lure and keep hyper competitive and aggressive dudes away from all the other games.
fryzeegunner
Posted 09:16am 17/8/11
Seriously about time. Valve know what they're doing.
Offset
Posted 12:33pm 17/8/11
I wish science and industry became as popular as cs. I loved that mod. So well made.
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