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Post by Steve Farrelly @ 05:04pm 02/08/10 | 42 Comments
A lot of you have probably already been logging long hours into either the robust single-player offering, or the intense (and massive) multiplayer, but for those still awaiting a definitive verdict, or at least a professional and informative breakdown of what all the StarCraft 2 fuss is about, AusGamers has a little something for you.

Our resident StarCraft 2 expert, Hogfather, smashed through the game in both modes to deliver us an in-depth review we're sure he probably would have liked to flesh out even more. This covers everything you need to know about the year's biggest PC release, so get into it.

Click here for the full review.



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Latest Comments
Phar4oh
Posted 05:29pm 02/8/10
I agree with all that. Very well rounded review. I'm sure Blizzard with continue to address the issues that crop up. Bliz! Please sort out the voice chat! It doesn't work on my G35!!! >:(
d^
Posted 05:39pm 02/8/10
Battle.net 2.0 isn't actually part of the game, I don't think it should count towards the review score...
CSIRAC
Posted 05:42pm 02/8/10
lol.. could of at least made some screenshots up. Those ones are so old and not even current. (mostly)

Battle.net 2.0 isn't actually part of the game, I don't think it should count towards the review score...


It's so deeply integrated into the game theres no way you wouldnt factor bnet2.0 into sc2's score. Besides that why wouldnt you factor the multiplayer interface into the games...multiplayer...?

derp

last edited by CSIRAC at 17:42:14 02/Aug/10
Stephen
Posted 05:44pm 02/8/10
I really want to get this game.
deface
Posted 06:03pm 02/8/10
You have to log in to bnet to play even single player, so its part of the game.
Hogfather
Posted 06:08pm 02/8/10
Yeh no discussion of StarCraft II can really avoid Battle.net. You can't play on BNet 1.0, and BNet 2.0 is a touted feature of the game. It needs attention, and reviews should highlight its current shortcomings to be balanced and fair - while also noting all the things it does well.
lol.. could of at least made some screenshots up. Those ones are so old and not even current. (mostly)

Heh I supplied text not imagery :P The colossus in particular stands out as a little dated ;)
Bertis
Posted 07:22pm 02/8/10
Hmm I agree that the shortcomings of Bnet2.0 should come into the rating... but I think the sheer quality of the game outweighs all of those minor problems.

It's easy to be picky when it comes to Blizzard games... I think it's a fair assumption that people will still be playing this game in 10+ years time so in my opinion it deserves a 10 just for that.
Khel
Posted 07:28pm 02/8/10
Yeah, in-game voice chat doesn't work at all for me either, or for my brother, and from a bit of googling its not an uncommon problem. Pretty lame :(
ctd
Posted 07:36pm 02/8/10
Works for me. It didnt work when I had directsound option on. Changed it to FMOD codec.
Midda
Posted 07:39pm 02/8/10
I add all of my PC games into my Steam games list, so you could always talk to your opponent using Steam's built-in chat (assuming the person you're playing with/against is on your Steam list).
Hogfather
Posted 08:40pm 02/8/10
Hmm I agree that the shortcomings of Bnet2.0 should come into the rating... but I think the sheer quality of the game outweighs all of those minor problems. It's easy to be picky when it comes to Blizzard games... I think it's a fair assumption that people will still be playing this game in 10+ years time so in my opinion it deserves a 10 just for that.

Yeh I had a really hard time settling on a score. I sat there for some time. On the one hand, the game is brilliant. It really is. I desperately wanted to give it a ten - and it may deserve it, I've been post-midnight in StarCraft II every night since launch! - but with the list of shortcomings I found that hard to justify. BNet 2.0 is a feature of the game, and in so many ways it managed to be worse than BNet 1.0.

A review targetted at Americans may well merit a 9.5 or 10.0.

But Battle.Net is a listed feature of the game, and its deficient at the moment. You just can't deny that. Regionalisation has hit Aussies very hard too, dividing the players -- poor deface! -- and together its a bit of a black mark. The problems and confusion around launch for Australia were poorly communicated and unnecessarily meant that some players are for now STUCK on the wrong server (USA) with no option but to wait for the unlock.

Regionalisation means that SEA custom maps are scarce and lower quality that EU or USA. SEA's RealID is almost entirely pointless. Achievements may not really mean anything, but I don't relish starting at 0 again when I get to the server I want to actually play on.

None of these problems were necessary and the fact that they've decided to fix it after launch is short sighted, but it meant I couldn't give it a ten and be honest about how I felt about the entire game right now :(
groganus
Posted 08:21pm 02/8/10
Yeah foolish me bought a EU copy from a digital download site as i couldnt find a store locally that had it in stock.. (except for eb, but f*** eb and there crazy prices) so i grab an EU version of the game, figuring.. whilst i might be region locked for matching games, surely i can still playing with friends... turns out i cant.

ctd
Posted 08:49pm 02/8/10
Haha fail. They are completely different servers.
konstie
Posted 08:54pm 02/8/10
yay just won my first match! marine rush w medi dudes FTW
simul
Posted 08:57pm 02/8/10
Good review,

Agree with everything, except for maybe the B-Net 2.0 stuff. I totally agree that it should be in there. However its pretty obvious that B-Net 2 is still evolving, so a lot of the listed problems will be gone soon enough (blizzard have already said there is coming chat + clans etc). I dunno, to me, a review should be able to be looked back on in 6 months and its still relevant (unless there are show-stopping bugs that would influence my decision to buy).
Hogfather
Posted 09:31pm 02/8/10
Agree with everything, except for maybe the B-Net 2.0 stuff. I totally agree that it should be in there. However its pretty obvious that B-Net 2 is still evolving, so a lot of the listed problems will be gone soon enough (blizzard have already said there is coming chat + clans etc). I dunno, to me, a review should be able to be looked back on in 6 months and its still relevant (unless there are show-stopping bugs that would influence my decision to buy).

Well, the elements of the review that would influence a buy will remain valid really - a 9.0 is in my mind a ringing endorsement, and I lavished the game with praise throughout. I don't think anyone coudl come away from the review with other than a positive rap with a solid indication of value for money and repla. I

If someone is reading this in 6 months time wondering, yes, you want to buy the game. Its awesome, and I'm still playing!

But Battle.Net's essentially incomplete nature and the mess that is Aussie regionalisation (to me) prevented a perfect 10.0. If the game at the time of review isn't technically perfect or is clearly incomplete then -- to me -- you can't give it a perfect score. As I say this is my favourite game franchise of all time, I'm the biggest fanboy on the planet, but it felt weird to serve up criticism of the launch and give it a 10.

Each to his own!
konstie
Posted 09:32pm 02/8/10
oops. disregard this post
Steve Farrelly
Posted 09:33pm 02/8/10
screens updated yo
Hogfather
Posted 10:18pm 02/8/10
You're a machine Steve!

Here's a couple of screens you can have ahahahhah!



AND THEN



KABOOM BABY
Beanith
Posted 09:58pm 02/8/10
Great review even if at times it felt like I was being gently beaten with a thesaurus :P

I've had a blast with the single player. going to give the multi player a go soon and inflate someone's win tally
eXemplar
Posted 11:04pm 02/8/10
Has there been a game release this year that hasn't been marred by some multiplayre related scar? Personally, as a game I'd give this a 9 but as an experience it barely scrapes by anything above 6 or 7 at the extreme.
infi
Posted 11:44pm 02/8/10
I want to know if the gameplay is better than Company of Heroes?

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Hogfather
Posted 11:52pm 02/8/10
They're very diffierent games. Its going to come down to preference ultimately.
deface
Posted 02:34am 03/8/10
You're going to post that nuke as often as you can aren't you hogs?
Infidel
Posted 04:05am 03/8/10
graphics look nice on those screenshots, I've been playing on a macbook pro with the 9400 graphics card and its really not up to scratch
paveway
Posted 07:38am 03/8/10
god it sucks trying to learn a game from scratch like this to try and be somewhat competetive online
Infidel
Posted 07:40am 03/8/10
prety much does, I went into silver league after getting out of the 5 pregame thingies only to get my ass handed to me every game i play now in some very different creative ways may i add
paveway
Posted 07:51am 03/8/10
i like the protos so i can only play skirmishes to try and learn them, atleast if you like terran you get the single player campaign
ctd
Posted 08:10am 03/8/10
Pave.If you are talking about MP.. the campaign wont be helpful. There is the practice league matches that don't count towards rank or stats + they have modified maps to stop rushing. best way to start from scratch imo.

Think I got through about 1/4 of the campaign before I got bored. RTS SP is still carp.

Confirmed what I thought it would be before it was released. Four types of missions
-Defend this base for X mins
-kill these dudes with limited reinforcements
-protect some vip units
-heres some marines. kill a few enemies go to the base ahead and start a skirmish match

paveway
Posted 08:29am 03/8/10
well i'm just talking about learning the actual units

can you stay in the practice league for as long as you like?
Hogfather
Posted 09:06am 03/8/10
I think the practice league is like 25 games?

deface - yes. Everywhere. I'm trying to work it into my sig...
Nitro
Posted 09:13am 03/8/10
I'm keen to buy this but mighty scared of getting smoked by every mother f***** and his dog online
CHUB
Posted 09:14am 03/8/10
Anyone know if there's proleagues running for SC2 yet? Or if anything is planned in the near future?

I've been searching around and can't find anything, nothing from the OSL or MSL.
simul
Posted 09:34am 03/8/10
Theres also the strategy learning stuff, where they show you tricky s*** with units. Things like only use keyboard shortcuts.
paveway
Posted 09:38am 03/8/10
yeah i'm the same nitro, haven't got the balls to play online yet

though i've only played a couple of skirmishs with protos so far

those colossus's are pretty f*****g sick
MARLINBLADE
Posted 09:44am 03/8/10
Well i hardly played the first SC and SC2 has been my first xp with Battlenet 2 and from my pov it's pretty good. Obviously i have nothing to compare it against but i've been playing with a mate now for a while and it always lets me know if somethings happening. Seems pretty good to me...

Gameplay wise this is the first RTS i have really enjoyed the SP in. REALLY pollished and the story has been great so far.

Multi player wise, i'm really enjoying teaming up with mates and working together. The Co op mode vs AI saw us through a carton of Beam on sunday and i spent all day at work yesty getting over it... So yeah, SC2 is a definately taking up all my time at the mo and i'm really enjoying it... Don't know if i'll be into the online MP that much but i haven't tried it yet so i'm not ruling it out... just been having so much fun playing with mates at the mo
CSIRAC
Posted 10:06am 03/8/10
I've been searching around and can't find anything, nothing from the OSL or MSL.


Theres still lots of discussion between the organisers of the MSL and OSL and blizzard, since they have such a long history with SC. Off the bat though, blizzard has made a contract with GOMTV in Korea to host leagues. In terms of already established SC2 leagues, there are literally 10's and 10's of them in the states and in europe.

For now sc1 hasnt died yet, the teams in Korea are in the middle of their leagues so we'll see what happens there. GOMTV have hosted 3-4 TV matches between the top 2 Korean SC clans as show matches if thats any indication.
d^
Posted 01:48pm 03/8/10
So my copy arrived in the mail today, North American server for me.
glynd
Posted 01:58pm 03/8/10
pave, do the challenges aswell. although pretty basic, it gives you an idea of the units and what they counter / vulnerable to. I found using liquipedia just to check up on build orders and basic strats to be quite handy. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Protoss_Strategy
Tollaz0r!
Posted 05:20pm 03/8/10

god it sucks trying to learn a game from scratch like this to try and be somewhat competetive online


I find that to be the best part.

I've focused on the Terrans, my first game I got rushed pretty hard. I quickly learned from that match to make HEAPS more SCV's.
The next match I got smoked by a single invis unit because I didn't which of my units was a detector, I figured the radar would show it, it didn't. I quickly learned the raven was a detector and to build the command base upgrade thingy.

It has been good, now at about 50% win rate.
I could get higher if I didn't experiment with different tactics and whatnot. Still in practice league.
Dazhel
Posted 06:12pm 03/8/10
Here's a couple of screens you can have ahahahhah! ...
AND THEN...
KABOOM BABY


Hahaha, nuclear launch detected!
JakeG
Posted 06:49pm 03/8/10
I'm giving this a miss as much as i want to play it...

Protip: never stop building scv's.
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