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Now to make sure I change the address my CE box is being sent to from here to my new office in Hobart.
Posted 09:53am 04/5/10
Yeh I hadn't played for 10 (?) days since the refresh until last night when dais nabbed me for some 2v2s. Some of the best fun I've had in the beta so far.
Although I was still rusty as hell we had some GGs. For me its just not a game I can play with randoms, which is what's making it hard for me to get into atm.
I miss AUS-1 :(
Posted 09:54am 04/5/10
Yea that was my troubles as well, but I think I'm just finally over starcraft. I'm more into the total war now a days.
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same
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I didnt play much SC1 but loving this game 2v2.
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In other words, Starcraft 2, great! But bring on motherfuckin Diablo 3 please! (!!!)
Posted 11:39am 04/5/10
qfmft
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i thought it would be like 80..
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Posted 03:43pm 04/5/10
Indeed - the QQ is strong with this one!
Just eat your Blizzard veges, you you'll like them.
PS- they are definetly edging towards cash grabbing, but while they make om nom nom games I'll forgive them.
Posted 03:43pm 04/5/10
That's a weird thing to say demon. If you love a game, and are hungry for more; you are grateful that the company is investing more time and money into their product so you can have more of the goodies you love so much. Don't like it, don't buy it. If you like it, buy it. How is an expansion pack any different from any game anyway when it comes to deciding if you want it? Or are you saying they should do a 1/2 arsed job creating 3 campaigns crammed into one game in which you think you're getting more value for money? I want to play premium games with so much polish I can see my reflection. ...damn....sexy
Posted 03:46pm 04/5/10
I'm sure there'll be a 150AU collector's edition that chucklefucks like me will eat up every time too..
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i got lots more of that in me yet! so if you want more please ask.
it doesn't seem weird to me to have a whinge about paying 3 times to play one game.
but i can see that they'll still rake in the cash regardless due to the high level of blizzard fanboyism.
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Are we going to pay more because of our Region ?
Posted 04:19pm 04/5/10
We don't have neough data at the moment to make a decision though.
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Rob Pardo made it pretty clear they were talking about stand alone game releases, not expansions. For example, you can buy Heart of the Swarm without buying Wings of Liberty at all. To me that implies full retail pricing of each volume.
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Normal US prices tend to be the go but you won't be able to buy it from the Blizzard store on release day anyway. In the first paragraph of Blizzards press release is IIRC it was the same for the last two expansions of WoW.
Sadly I wont be able to pick up my copy on release, I'll be on holidays throwing myself down a mountain repeatedly instead.
Posted 04:57pm 04/5/10
Blizzard aren't cunts like that. They will no doubt have a "CD key to play online" thing like they always do, and you will need to register it on their site. that'll be about it i'd assume.
Also fuck. Couldn't of been the month before... on my birthday. Would of been some gift to myself.
Posted 05:00pm 04/5/10
In any case, you may be right ... maybe.
Source: http://www.starcraft-source.com/article/news/view/?id=261
We'll have to wait and see what that means. I still reckon the bean counters will see dollar signs, you can definetly expect the CE to be a hundred AU+.
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Surely we're looking at 50ish USD from the get go for the Zerg ... Volume?
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Posted 11:01pm 04/5/10
I just had an epic 30 minute 1v1 match against a good mate. Awesome fun.
Posted 11:11pm 04/5/10
Pretty sure they are requiring battle.net for single player? Top left of the beta has 2 tabs, single player and multi player. So you can switch between them easily. That + there being no more LAN support would mean they could easily throw everything via battle.net (although maybe they will have an offline mode for battle.net like steam has).
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Blizzard has said the beta will be daunting for a lot of people because basically everyone, regardless of your RTS background will be chucked into the same swimming pool and you'll just have to do your best. They have said there will a solid multi-step program to ease people into the game so once your feeling up to playing a multiplayer game you wont feel like you do now.
On the same note... harden the fuck up and press play, once you get past your placement matches you should be playing against ppl of the same skill. Failing that.. you can choose the total novice option and you can play beginner matches where the entrances to your base is walled off by high HP rocks so you cant die in 10 mins.
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Posted 07:02am 05/5/10
Blizzard wouldn't fracture the community if they don't have to. It will probably end up like Company of Heroes. The expansions will allow the owners to use the extra content (a new unit or something) while the non-owners can see the units and play against them, just not use them.
Posted 10:01am 05/5/10
http://www.cdwow.com.au/games/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty-pc/dp/4759417#bc=c98d
Posted 10:13am 05/5/10
For all RTS games they've released to date Blizzard has kept expansion players seperate from non-expac to avoid issues with balance. It would be impossible to fight a Brood War player with just vanilla SC.
Posted 11:24am 05/5/10
that has never been the case with any of the blizzard rts games, from brood war to the frozen throne. Every expansion has been seperate game on battle.net in fact the only time ppl who didn't buy the expansion could interact with players who did was through bnet chat.
Even if u were to ignore how blizzard handled this in the past. Allowing ppl to play against others with the expansion but not be able to use the units while ur oppenant can, would be insanely imbalanced and straight up messy and would go against alot of their own design philosophy.
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In a million years they couldn't charge a subscription fee for it, but if they release a 'volume' per year for a few years, then rinse repeat the process with Diablo II from say 2011, all of a sudden you're basically dropping over a hundred bucks a year to play on BNet!
Yeh you get a few units extra per year + some maps etc and SP content. But it does smell like a sub to me :P
Posted 01:21pm 05/5/10
looking at content with brood war, lord of destruction and frozen throne, i'd be willing to pay that. heck, frozen throne's single player content was worth the money alone.
Posted 01:35pm 05/5/10
Blizzard have (pre WoW anyway!) never milked a game engine for more than a single expac from memory, with title releases once every year or two.
This has all changed - we'll see 2 titles (wow expac and sc2) ship this year likely, with Diablo III and the Zerg volume likely-ish in 2011. We've never seen Blizzrad talking about (and naming!) expansions for an unreleased game.
Hopefully they can retain the Blizzard mark of polish and fun while pushing out so much game :)
Posted 01:55pm 05/5/10
true but blizzard generally release an expansion a year after the game anyway so business is usual imo. just happens that this time they've got 3 (technically 4) games in development at the same time.
but totally agree, hopefully blizzard stick to their guns.
Posted 02:47pm 05/5/10
Yeah, thats a good deal, so long as you don't mind waiting a month to get it.
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Stupid retail agreements. You should be able to buy a key, and DL the game from your ISP's local mirror. This isn't brain rocketry.
Posted 03:16pm 05/5/10
You're 100% right, as usual. It's called business.
Posted 03:27pm 05/5/10
Another reason why i like HON
Posted 03:29pm 05/5/10
Half-right, as usual.
Its stupid business.
PC game retail is dying. Digital property doesn't belong in shops.
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Has it for $50. Ordered 4 or 5 ps3 games off this site recently and can't complain about the delivery time.
Posted 04:37pm 05/5/10
I think what Blizzard is doing has a double benefit though.
1. It helps Blizzard pay for the battle.net service (or may be help justify upgrading it considering they already said that advertising covers the cost of running it)
2. It lets them squeeze more juice out of their IP. This way, instead of having to wait another 10 years for another taste of Starcraft flavour, it won't be such a long time between drinks...
Posted 04:45pm 05/5/10
The cynic in me fears they are going to water it all down though. The amount of game in development increased sharply following the Activision merger. The optimist in me thinks they have more capital to make more awesome; the pessimist smells an IW:EA dealio.
Posted 07:00pm 05/5/10
Im not going to buy it if its going to be like that.
Ill play the regular.
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Its still great, cos its Starcraft, but don't expect it to be anything more than what you remember.
Posted 08:16am 11/5/10
But the actual tactics and counters are all totally different. It's a great mix of old and new imo.
Posted 11:27am 11/5/10
The game plays a lot differently for sure. The engine changes are much more than a facelift - the map editor is very close to a game engine. We're going to see some amazing shit out of it - for example, it apaprently support 1st person gameplay!
The core game itself is very definetly StarCraft. Buts its a fair bit more than just StarCraft in 3D imo. Its not really a few more units, there's been a rebuild of tech trees altogether - you couldn't stick a 3D engine on Brood War and add units to get SCII:
There is no unit in Brood War that can directly replace the Reaper, the Void Ray, the Banshee, the Viking, the Roach, the Colossus (many more). The do different roles - for example the the Banshee is the spiritual successor to the Wraith but has a different role - its no longer an air superiority fighter with some stealth ground attack, its a stealth bomber period. Vikings are different to Valkyries - there is no unit in BW that can transform to a ground unit at will.
Nothing in BW can attack while burrowed. Command Centre Upgrades. Chrono Boost. Watch Towers. Serg defense can move onthe creep. Overlords can grow the creep. Refundable Bunkers. Swap-out building addons. Warp gates. Unit counters are generally harder but also more finely defined making it easier to balance at the fne level (nor more concussive, explosive etc damage).
The AI is improved. The single-file pathing is mostly gone while leaving intact the StarCraft discipline of needing to keep your army together. Workers will now be attacked by melee units if they are in the way of ranged. Wall-ins are much stronger and more flexible (raise and lower supply depot).
The changelist is huge. But yeh, from a glance (and your first 10-20 games) it will be a romp through memory lane. This is a good thing, its just not StarCraft without rushes, quick expands, stimpack, hydras, speed lings, drops and supply line assaults :) It also means that a player can jump into their favourite SC race and know how to play decently from the get go (although you'll have to learn to counter some of the new rushes).
After another midnight run -- finishing with a satisfying 40 minutes replay review of an HOUR AND FIFTEEN MINUTE 2v2 game I played -- I can confirm that I am locked in. It took a while to get right into it. Its intimidating. Its exhausting. Its frustrating as hell. But how good is it when you when an epic GG?!
Posted 09:41am 11/5/10
THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE A GAME. Make it open, extensible, and solid and people will fall over themselves to make 'DLC' for you!@#