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Post by trog @ 09:29am 04/05/10 | 83 Comments
At long last, Blizzard have finally confirmed the release date for StarCraft 2.
"We've been looking forward to revisiting the StarCraft universe for many years, and we're excited that the time for that is almost here," said Mike Morhaime, CEO and cofounder of Blizzard Entertainment. "Thanks to our beta testers, we're making great progress on the final stages of development, and we'll be ready to welcome players all over the world to StarCraft II and the new Battle.netŪ in just a few months."
All you need to know is: July 27, 2010. Blizzard have also confirmed to AusGamers that this will include support for Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Macintosh out on release.












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konstie
Posted 09:30am 04/5/10
Woo!
Scooter
Posted 09:32am 04/5/10
2 Months to get a new computer sorted out. Hopefully one good enough that will last me through D3 as well, without having to spent too much money :o
MatchFixah
Posted 09:33am 04/5/10
I was never into starcraft but i i think i'm too intimidated by the SC crazies to give this one ago.

:(
Eorl
Posted 09:33am 04/5/10
Meh, nice to hear a date, but I'm over it. Hype wore off quickly.
darkjedi
Posted 09:41am 04/5/10
Huzzah!

Now to make sure I change the address my CE box is being sent to from here to my new office in Hobart.
Hogfather
Posted 09:53am 04/5/10
Meh, nice to hear a date, but I'm over it. Hype wore off quickly.

Yeh I hadn't played for 10 (?) days since the refresh until last night when dais nabbed me for some 2v2s. Some of the best fun I've had in the beta so far.

Although I was still rusty as hell we had some GGs. For me its just not a game I can play with randoms, which is what's making it hard for me to get into atm.

I miss AUS-1 :(
Eorl
Posted 09:54am 04/5/10
Meh, nice to hear a date, but I'm over it. Hype wore off quickly.
Yeh I hadn't played for 10 (?) days since the refresh until last night when dais nabbed me for some 2v2s. Some of the best fun I've had in the beta so far.

Although I was still rusty as hell we had some GGs. For me its just not a game I can play with randoms, which is what's making it hard for me to get into atm.

I miss AUS-1 :(


Yea that was my troubles as well, but I think I'm just finally over starcraft. I'm more into the total war now a days.
OM3GA
Posted 10:09am 04/5/10
guess this is just the pc version, any mac released date? since there was a mac beta as well
trog
Posted 10:11am 04/5/10
guess this is just the pc version, any mac released date? since there was a mac beta as well
good question; I've asked Blizzard and will let you know.
konstie
Posted 10:12am 04/5/10
i'm interested in seeing the anti-piracy measures that blizzard will have. surely you'll need to login to Bnet before you can play singleplayer?
trog
Posted 10:21am 04/5/10
updated news post - Mac support will be there out of the box
Hogfather
Posted 10:26am 04/5/10
Can I do the haha Mac post now and get it out of the way, blah blah blah argue Mac market share development cost yadd yadda cool lots of work to do today sorry guys :(
paveway
Posted 10:30am 04/5/10
I was never into starcraft but i i think i'm too intimidated by the SC crazies to give this one ago.


same
Hogfather
Posted 10:30am 04/5/10
Don't be intimidated. Ask dais, I suck :P
Fuzzy
Posted 10:31am 04/5/10
That is actually alot sooner then I was expecting it. I thought we'd have to wait until at least late September, just before Blizzcon
Vash
Posted 10:37am 04/5/10
Theres different grades you're allocated to. So you wont be put into platinum and getting owned every game.
I didnt play much SC1 but loving this game 2v2.
Hogfather
Posted 10:39am 04/5/10
Put yer s*** in the username thread Vas**
kirkoswald
Posted 11:01am 04/5/10
Wooo ! I'm going to plan a good solid weekend of gaming when this thing comes out!
AverageCowboy
Posted 11:37am 04/5/10
I don't know hey, thinking about it, I'm not sure how long it will take for the hype of actually owning/having the game to wear off. Would be slightly demoralising if it was all like "Sweet got SC2... played it a few times, it's cool but... I cbf?"

In other words, Starcraft 2, great! But bring on motherf***** Diablo 3 please! (!!!)
paveway
Posted 11:39am 04/5/10
But bring on motherf***** Diablo 3 please! (!!!)


qfmft
d^
Posted 12:50pm 04/5/10
Swis**
Tim Tibbetts
Posted 01:03pm 04/5/10
Oh yay! I'm actually thinking about taking the day off work for this, which I know is really sad...but, heck, it's Star-freakin-craft 2!!
BoneyD
Posted 01:05pm 04/5/10
Hopefully Amazon or somewhere similar will be exporting to Australia, cause there's no way I'm paying $150AU when the US only pays $92AU.
kirkoswald
Posted 01:58pm 04/5/10
$150! is that how much there askin?

i thought it would be like 80..
Tim Tibbetts
Posted 02:49pm 04/5/10
The collectors edition at EB is $150, you can get the normal game for about $80 if you avoid EB.
demon
Posted 02:57pm 04/5/10
i am guessing that as the release is called "STARCRAFT II: WINGS OF LIBERTY" that blizzard still intend on releasing starcraft2 as 3 seperate releases? coz that sorta money grubbing from a company that has already made a mint from gamers is annoying. probably not annoying enough for me to stay away from starcraft2... but annoying enough for me to make this post :P
Thundercracker
Posted 03:01pm 04/5/10
QQ more
Josh
Posted 03:34pm 04/5/10
Awesome, part 1 out of 3 is finally released. Makes me laugh how releasing it on 3 different discs is fine but if Ubisoft announce that some dlc will be exclusive to a preorder in a certain store, people go apes***.
Phar4oh
Posted 03:35pm 04/5/10
yay! I'm definitely adding that to my buy list. Can I download it from steam? HA HA HA
Hogfather
Posted 03:43pm 04/5/10
i am guessing that as the release is called "STARCRAFT II: WINGS OF LIBERTY" that blizzard still intend on releasing starcraft2 as 3 seperate releases? coz that sorta money grubbing from a company that has already made a mint from gamers is annoying. probably not annoying enough for me to stay away from starcraft2... but annoying enough for me to make this post :P

Indeed - the QQ is strong with this one!

Just eat your Blizzard veges, you you'll like them.

PS- they are definetly edging towards cash grabbing, but while they make om nom nom games I'll forgive them.
Phar4oh
Posted 03:43pm 04/5/10
"coz that sorta money grubbing from a company that has already made a mint from gamers is annoying"

That's a weird thing to say demon. If you love a game, and are hungry for more; you are grateful that the company is investing more time and money into their product so you can have more of the goodies you love so much. Don't like it, don't buy it. If you like it, buy it. How is an expansion pack any different from any game anyway when it comes to deciding if you want it? Or are you saying they should do a 1/2 arsed job creating 3 campaigns crammed into one game in which you think you're getting more value for money? I want to play premium games with so much polish I can see my reflection. ...damn....sexy
Hogfather
Posted 03:46pm 04/5/10
Pharoah - its not quite an expac though. Instead of 1 or 2 expansions, they're really releasing StarCraft II three times!

I'm sure there'll be a 150AU collector's edition that chucklef**** like me will eat up every time too..
demon
Posted 04:02pm 04/5/10
ok
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ

i got lots more of that in me yet! so if you want more please ask.

it doesn't seem weird to me to have a whinge about paying 3 times to play one game.

but i can see that they'll still rake in the cash regardless due to the high level of blizzard fanboyism.
Phar4oh
Posted 04:16pm 04/5/10
Demon, I don't get it. Are you saying they should either not do the extra work, or they should do the extra work but it should be free? They're obviously delivering a more ambitious product by doing it in 3 iterations. They could do the traditional model but decided not to. Not sure why you care.
FaceMan
Posted 04:19pm 04/5/10
Whats the price going to be at the Blizzard Digital Store ?
Are we going to pay more because of our Region ?
Hogfather
Posted 04:19pm 04/5/10
Either the 2nd and 3rd iterations wil lbe a ripoff or not. If they include 30 hours or more of SP gameplayer and a solid expansion's worth of new units and lots o fnew MP features then I'd be happy to buy the new major version.

We don't have neough data at the moment to make a decision though.
Phar4oh
Posted 04:31pm 04/5/10
Hogfather, it's simple. If you love it and want more, you will buy it. I doubt they'll charge full price for it. i bet they'll be "expansion prices".
Hogfather
Posted 04:35pm 04/5/10
Hogfather, it's simple. If you love it and want more, you will buy it. I doubt they'll charge full price for it. i bet they'll be "expansion prices".
You don't know that, and I'll happily necro this thread to rub it in your face if you're wrong (and eat crow if you are right).

Rob Pardo made it pretty clear they were talking about stand alone game releases, not expansions. For example, you can buy Heart of the Swarm without buying Wings of Liberty at all. To me that implies full retail pricing of each volume.
Phar4oh
Posted 04:40pm 04/5/10
uh, I never said I "knew that". That's why I said "doubt" and not "know". It was a guess. A very handsome one. It wasn't even my point anyway...
Phar4oh
Posted 04:45pm 04/5/10
oh, and regarding "expansion" semantics. Are the protoss and zerg campaigns going to be Starcraft 3 and 4? No? so you're saying they're going to expand on the content in Starcraft 2? Interesting. If they're expanding the content, not releasing a sequel, they should probably try to use the expand word somehow to describe the release.... like expansion.... but what would I know
infi
Posted 04:54pm 04/5/10
I'll give it a go... not really my cup of tea but it should be polished at least.
Beanith
Posted 04:57pm 04/5/10
Whats the price going to be at the Blizzard Digital Store ?
Are we going to pay more because of our Region ?


Normal US prices tend to be the go but you won't be able to buy it from the Blizzard store on release day anyway. In the first paragraph of Blizzards press release is
Players will also be able to purchase StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty directly from Blizzard Entertainment shortly after the retail launch.
IIRC it was the same for the last two expansions of WoW.

Sadly I wont be able to pick up my copy on release, I'll be on holidays throwing myself down a mountain repeatedly instead.
DM
Posted 04:57pm 04/5/10
i'm interested in seeing the anti-piracy measures that blizzard will have. surely you'll need to login to Bnet before you can play singleplayer?

Blizzard aren't c**** like that. They will no doubt have a "CD key to play online" thing like they always do, and you will need to register it on their site. that'll be about it i'd assume.

Also f***. Couldn't of been the month before... on my birthday. Would of been some gift to myself.
Hogfather
Posted 05:00pm 04/5/10
Calm down my little redcoat friend! We be just chewin the fat round here.

In any case, you may be right ... maybe.
8) Will they be priced as expansions?

They'll be priced appropriately to the content. Right now, the plans are to do something along the lines of a full single player campaign and some additional features to the multi-player side. It'll obviously use the same engine; so that, to me, is an expansion price point. If we decided to put in 3 new races and a bunch of new technology and features, maybe that would be a stand-alone product. But right now, we're looking at much more of an expansion-like feature set.

Source: http://www.starcraft-source.com/article/news/view/?id=261

We'll have to wait and see what that means. I still reckon the bean counters will see dollar signs, you can definetly expect the CE to be a hundred AU+.
CSIRAC
Posted 05:08pm 04/5/10
Think the biggest gripe is that once these "expansions" or however u want to call them, are released, you're forced to buy them whether for the single player or not just to be able to play on battle.net. no ones going to be playing WoL once the 2nd game comes out and by popularity alone the game becomes redundant (multi wise). So people are going to be paying for a full price game for what will essentially be a few units, which lets be honest you can guarantee some rehash on units that they left out from broodwar.
Hogfather
Posted 05:30pm 04/5/10
Yeh its a hard sell I reckon for full price, but their distinction between expansion and volume (and the fact that they are stand-alone) makes me think they're gonna premium price them in some way, depending on how manic the SCII fervor is.

Surely we're looking at 50ish USD from the get go for the Zerg ... Volume?
Phar4oh
Posted 05:35pm 04/5/10
Lol @ "redcoat friend". Way to make me look like a communist :P
Hogfather
Posted 05:43pm 04/5/10
Ahahaha
Raven
Posted 06:11pm 04/5/10
"Macintosh"? They haven't been called that since 1922.
Khel
Posted 08:42pm 04/5/10
Yeah, it intimidates me too, thats probably part of the reason I didn't end up playing the beta much. I mean, I haven't had a lot of time to game lately anyway, but when I have, Starcraft 2 just intimidates me so I end up playing something else :(
MatchFixah
Posted 10:36pm 04/5/10
aw wut not you too khelzor! If my ultimate hero gamer is intimated by a game, what hope do i have..

:(
Thundercracker
Posted 11:01pm 04/5/10
Ladder matches are good :) Just need to jump in and do first few rounds to get rated, and then you should be playing people around your skill level.

I just had an epic 30 minute 1v1 match against a good mate. Awesome fun.
simul
Posted 11:11pm 04/5/10
i'm interested in seeing the anti-piracy measures that blizzard will have. surely you'll need to login to Bnet before you can play singleplayer?


Blizzard aren't c**** like that. They will no doubt have a "CD key to play online" thing like they always do, and you will need to register it on their site. that'll be about it i'd assume.


Pretty sure they are requiring battle.net for single player? Top left of the beta has 2 tabs, single player and multi player. So you can switch between them easily. That + there being no more LAN support would mean they could easily throw everything via battle.net (although maybe they will have an offline mode for battle.net like steam has).
trog
Posted 11:12pm 04/5/10
Yeah, it intimidates me too, thats probably part of the reason I didn't end up playing the beta much. I mean, I haven't had a lot of time to game lately anyway, but when I have, Starcraft 2 just intimidates me so I end up playing something else :(
ditto so far. It's really daunting how much work I have to do before I can even beat the absolute entry level people. I spent most of yesterday playing (my first time ever playing rts games against humans over the Internet) and I just got smashed up and down!
CSIRAC
Posted 11:37pm 04/5/10
There will be a play offline feature for single player but it wont record your stats or be able to earn achivements (lol coz thats so important) they also tout about being able to save ur progress in their cloud system so you can pick up and play from anywhere, but really.. how useful can that be. but obviously that feature wont be available to you if you play offline.

ditto so far. It's really daunting how much work I have to do before I can even beat the absolute entry level people. I spent most of yesterday playing (my first time ever playing rts games against humans over the Internet) and I just got smashed up and down!


Blizzard has said the beta will be daunting for a lot of people because basically everyone, regardless of your RTS background will be chucked into the same swimming pool and you'll just have to do your best. They have said there will a solid multi-step program to ease people into the game so once your feeling up to playing a multiplayer game you wont feel like you do now.

On the same note... harden the f*** up and press play, once you get past your placement matches you should be playing against ppl of the same skill. Failing that.. you can choose the total novice option and you can play beginner matches where the entrances to your base is walled off by high HP rocks so you cant die in 10 mins.

last edited by CSIRAC at 23:37:05 04/May/10
Tollaz0r!
Posted 07:02am 05/5/10

Think the biggest gripe is that once these "expansions" or however u want to call them, are released, you're forced to buy them whether for the single player or not just to be able to play on battle.net.



Blizzard wouldn't fracture the community if they don't have to. It will probably end up like Company of Heroes. The expansions will allow the owners to use the extra content (a new unit or something) while the non-owners can see the units and play against them, just not use them.
TiT
Posted 10:01am 05/5/10
Hogfather
Posted 10:13am 05/5/10
Blizzard wouldn't fracture the community if they don't have to. It will probably end up like Company of Heroes. The expansions will allow the owners to use the extra content (a new unit or something) while the non-owners can see the units and play against them, just not use them.
How well did that work in CoH? Did you get wtfpwned if you didn't upgrade?

For all RTS games they've released to date Blizzard has kept expansion players seperate from non-expac to avoid issues with balance. It would be impossible to fight a Brood War player with just vanilla SC.
CSIRAC
Posted 11:24am 05/5/10
Blizzard wouldn't fracture the community if they don't have to. It will probably end up like Company of Heroes. The expansions will allow the owners to use the extra content (a new unit or something) while the non-owners can see the units and play against them, just not use them.


that has never been the case with any of the blizzard rts games, from brood war to the frozen throne. Every expansion has been seperate game on battle.net in fact the only time ppl who didn't buy the expansion could interact with players who did was through bnet chat.

Even if u were to ignore how blizzard handled this in the past. Allowing ppl to play against others with the expansion but not be able to use the units while ur oppenant can, would be insanely imbalanced and straight up messy and would go against alot of their own design philosophy.

TiT
Posted 11:43am 05/5/10
But most ppl who play online would spend the extra money and buy the expansion packs because they are actually enjoying both the single player and multiplayer aspects of the game...
Hogfather
Posted 12:44pm 05/5/10
Hmm, is it just me or is this volume thing really about monetising Battle.Net 2.0?

In a million years they couldn't charge a subscription fee for it, but if they release a 'volume' per year for a few years, then rinse repeat the process with Diablo II from say 2011, all of a sudden you're basically dropping over a hundred bucks a year to play on BNet!

Yeh you get a few units extra per year + some maps etc and SP content. But it does smell like a sub to me :P
glynd
Posted 01:21pm 05/5/10
Hmm, is it just me or is this volume thing really about monetising Battle.Net 2.0?

In a million years they couldn't charge a subscription fee for it, but if they release a 'volume' per year for a few years, then rinse repeat the process with Diablo II from say 2011, all of a sudden you're basically dropping over a hundred bucks a year to play on BNet!

Yeh you get a few units extra per year + some maps etc and SP content. But it does smell like a sub to me :P


looking at content with brood war, lord of destruction and frozen throne, i'd be willing to pay that. heck, frozen throne's single player content was worth the money alone.
Hogfather
Posted 01:35pm 05/5/10
Oh yeh glynd - but the content was released how often over the life of the game?

Blizzard have (pre WoW anyway!) never milked a game engine for more than a single expac from memory, with title releases once every year or two.

This has all changed - we'll see 2 titles (wow expac and sc2) ship this year likely, with Diablo III and the Zerg volume likely-ish in 2011. We've never seen Blizzrad talking about (and naming!) expansions for an unreleased game.

Hopefully they can retain the Blizzard mark of polish and fun while pushing out so much game :)
glynd
Posted 01:55pm 05/5/10
Oh yeh glynd - but the content was released how often over the life of the game?

Blizzard have (pre WoW anyway!) never milked a game engine for more than a single expac from memory, with title releases once every year or two.

This has all changed - we'll see 2 titles (wow expac and sc2) ship this year likely, with Diablo III and the Zerg volume likely-ish in 2011. We've never seen Blizzrad talking about (and naming!) expansions for an unreleased game.

Hopefully they can retain the Blizzard mark of polish and fun while pushing out so much game :)


true but blizzard generally release an expansion a year after the game anyway so business is usual imo. just happens that this time they've got 3 (technically 4) games in development at the same time.

but totally agree, hopefully blizzard stick to their guns.
Khel
Posted 02:47pm 05/5/10
Starcraft 2 is going for $53 at cdwow


Yeah, thats a good deal, so long as you don't mind waiting a month to get it.
ctd
Posted 02:57pm 05/5/10
Will we be able to buy it directly off Bnet? Guess the only problem is using precious gigamegs.
Hogfather
Posted 02:59pm 05/5/10
You'll be able to, just not right on launch. We don't know the timing of the digi-dl.

Stupid retail agreements. You should be able to buy a key, and DL the game from your ISP's local mirror. This isn't brain rocketry.
konstie
Posted 03:16pm 05/5/10
This isn't brain rocketry.


You're 100% right, as usual. It's called business.
TiT
Posted 03:27pm 05/5/10
Stupid retail agreements. You should be able to buy a key, and DL the game from your ISP's local mirror. This isn't brain rocketry


Another reason why i like HON
Hogfather
Posted 03:29pm 05/5/10
This isn't brain rocketry.
You're 100% right, as usual. It's called business.

Half-right, as usual.

Its stupid business.

PC game retail is dying. Digital property doesn't belong in shops.
konstie
Posted 03:29pm 05/5/10
hey tit have you pre-purchased yet? i have yet to decide if i will buy this game or not. $30 USD is a cheap investment for the hours spent though.
TiT
Posted 03:35pm 05/5/10
Hey Konstie, yes i pre-purchased ages ago, our whole clan plays so yes i belive its worth it, i find it funny the less i spend for games, more i play for some reason...
Khel
Posted 03:37pm 05/5/10
I'd wait till its listed on http://www.365games.co.uk and order it from there if you want it cheap. Far better service than CdWow, you'll actually have your game when you want it, instead of a month or two later.
TiT
Posted 03:39pm 05/5/10
yeh im jsut going to wait week after its release and buy it directly from Blizzard
ctd
Posted 03:45pm 05/5/10
http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/pc/starcraft-ii-2/10082581.html

Release Date: 27 July 2010

Availability: Pre-order now for delivery on 27 July 2010

Has it for $50. Ordered 4 or 5 ps3 games off this site recently and can't complain about the delivery time.
Phar4oh
Posted 04:37pm 05/5/10
I think you're right hogfather, it does look a lot more like a subscription. It's a clever business model. Gamers wouldn't pay for online play (unless you own an X-Box... ha ha ha) so they move the fee elsewhere. It's like free sword polishing, but when you pick it up the next day, they charge you a storage fee. (Vikings usually killed weasals like that with newly polished swords, not that I get distracted by tangents)

I think what Blizzard is doing has a double benefit though.

1. It helps Blizzard pay for the battle.net service (or may be help justify upgrading it considering they already said that advertising covers the cost of running it)
2. It lets them squeeze more juice out of their IP. This way, instead of having to wait another 10 years for another taste of Starcraft flavour, it won't be such a long time between drinks...
Hogfather
Posted 04:45pm 05/5/10
Absolutely pharaoh - as long as it results in more quality Blizzard slaw I'm all for it.

The cynic in me fears they are going to water it all down though. The amount of game in development increased sharply following the Activision merger. The optimist in me thinks they have more capital to make more awesome; the pessimist smells an IW:EA dealio.
FaceMan
Posted 07:00pm 05/5/10
Starcraft Facebook selling you Ads for crap you dont want in your region.

Im not going to buy it if its going to be like that.
Ill play the regular.
Decepticon
Posted 02:44am 11/5/10
so this is the game to restore my faith in rts....I really hope it was worth the wait
Khel
Posted 04:00am 11/5/10
Its just Starcraft, the game itself hasn't really changed at all apart from a facelift. A couple of new units, but half the new units just serve the purpose of old units they've removed anyway.

Its still great, cos its Starcraft, but don't expect it to be anything more than what you remember.
Thundercracker
Posted 08:16am 11/5/10
I dunno, the basics of the game are quite similar.

But the actual tactics and counters are all totally different. It's a great mix of old and new imo.
Hogfather
Posted 11:27am 11/5/10
I dunno, the basics of the game are quite similar.

But the actual tactics and counters are all totally different. It's a great mix of old and new imo.

The game plays a lot differently for sure. The engine changes are much more than a facelift - the map editor is very close to a game engine. We're going to see some amazing s*** out of it - for example, it apaprently support 1st person gameplay!

The core game itself is very definetly StarCraft. Buts its a fair bit more than just StarCraft in 3D imo. Its not really a few more units, there's been a rebuild of tech trees altogether - you couldn't stick a 3D engine on Brood War and add units to get SCII:

There is no unit in Brood War that can directly replace the Reaper, the Void Ray, the Banshee, the Viking, the Roach, the Colossus (many more). The do different roles - for example the the Banshee is the spiritual successor to the Wraith but has a different role - its no longer an air superiority fighter with some stealth ground attack, its a stealth bomber period. Vikings are different to Valkyries - there is no unit in BW that can transform to a ground unit at will.

Nothing in BW can attack while burrowed. Command Centre Upgrades. Chrono Boost. Watch Towers. Serg defense can move onthe creep. Overlords can grow the creep. Refundable Bunkers. Swap-out building addons. Warp gates. Unit counters are generally harder but also more finely defined making it easier to balance at the fne level (nor more concussive, explosive etc damage).

The AI is improved. The single-file pathing is mostly gone while leaving intact the StarCraft discipline of needing to keep your army together. Workers will now be attacked by melee units if they are in the way of ranged. Wall-ins are much stronger and more flexible (raise and lower supply depot).

The changelist is huge. But yeh, from a glance (and your first 10-20 games) it will be a romp through memory lane. This is a good thing, its just not StarCraft without rushes, quick expands, stimpack, hydras, speed lings, drops and supply line assaults :) It also means that a player can jump into their favourite SC race and know how to play decently from the get go (although you'll have to learn to counter some of the new rushes).

After another midnight run -- finishing with a satisfying 40 minutes replay review of an HOUR AND FIFTEEN MINUTE 2v2 game I played -- I can confirm that I am locked in. It took a while to get right into it. Its intimidating. Its exhausting. Its frustrating as hell. But how good is it when you when an epic GG?!
trog
Posted 09:41am 11/5/10
Yeh this video is awesome showing what you can do:



THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE A GAME. Make it open, extensible, and solid and people will fall over themselves to make 'DLC' for you!@#
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