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Post by trog @ 04:11pm 07/04/10 | 88 Comments
 Of course, we had to ask the inevitable question (which they must love getting from Australians) - but were pleasantly surprised that they are still actively discussing it, so it's still a possibility. Said J. Allen Brack on the subject: I would say it’s possible and that it’s something we talk about on a regular basis - and I will also say it’s something I have talked about this week. So it’s definitely just not a case of ‘yeah whatever’. It does get our attention and we do raise it up on a regular basis. If we can make it happen, we’ll make it happen.Check out the full interview for all the other details! 
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Posted 04:32pm 07/4/10
I thought you meant censorship.
Also it's interesting that he has pretty much alluded to banning of proxy servers by blizzard. If I remember correctly, people have been banned by blizzard on WoW for using proxy servers to get better ping. Really shitty of then to do imo.
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Posted 04:31pm 07/4/10
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Posted 04:43pm 07/4/10
Good interview too!
Posted 05:26pm 07/4/10
Nice little snipe while wrapping things up trog :D
Posted 05:46pm 07/4/10
Posted 06:03pm 07/4/10
I suppose getting some racks in a data centre would only be one of their worries? I'm not sure how they are set up really but I would imagine it'd require hiring and training staff to handle stuff out here? Or could sys admin guys do most of it remotely? Anyone? Bueller?
Posted 06:23pm 07/4/10
If it costs $20K a month to host a server that can support 200 users for HoN, I'd hate to think how much it would cost to run a Oceanic WoW server that supports (wildly guessing) a 1000-2000 users all pulling data let alone the 15 or so Oceanic WoW servers they have already.
There's spending money to make money and then there's just being plain retarded with money
Posted 06:23pm 07/4/10
Surely its not THAT expensive, and being that they could expect to host 20-30k people on one server, its not like they wouldn't make the money back.
Posted 07:04pm 07/4/10
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Posted 09:06pm 07/4/10
Posted 09:18pm 07/4/10
God surely an excel spreadsheet wouldn't consume that much data.
Posted 10:03pm 07/4/10
What if they partnered with a major ISP - lets just say it was Internode. I'm assuming bandwith for Internodes own customers they could do at minimal cost. Others could be charged at a higher rate if they wanted to play on those servers.
Yes, no...?
Posted 10:15pm 07/4/10
Posted 10:49pm 07/4/10
The way business covers INTERNATIONAL OPERATION is by factoring in those places where they can do business cheaply SUCH AS AMERICA and those places where parts of business cost more say due to tax... or in this case BANDWIDTH COSTS IN AUSTRALIA and they BALANCE OUT.
They have the fucking cashflow to do it when you factor in the OVERALL business model. If you sit there and look at the reasons and costs just for Australia of course its going to make fuck all sense.
Look at the big picture / entire business model and also understand that not just Australians but the entire fucking Oceania region would be positively effected by the roll out, not to mention the countless Australia ISPs (and gaming providers like game arena) that would give them shit at cost price to just to make it happen.
Stop making excuse for them. They are a fuking giant. If they wanted Australian servers, they could make it happen. The last reason that it's not happening is MONEY. Money is one thing that have FUCKTONNES of.
Christ...
Posted 10:51pm 07/4/10
It makes zero sense for them to do it - it's not like Australian WoW players are shedding their subscriptions because of performance issues.
Posted 11:09pm 07/4/10
you're saying they should enter into a bad investment just because their existing investment is able to cover the bad one
and that's _exactly_ how you need to look at things
Posted 11:24pm 07/4/10
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Posted 12:32am 08/4/10
Also hilarious response gamer, sadly someone owns these companies. If i was the sole owner of blizzard activision, and some manager said "We wasted a bunch of money making some aussies happy" I'd be asking them to leave my company.
Posted 11:27am 08/4/10
It's about providing the best service to their customers.
At the moment they have a problem. Lag, international internet problems fuck with providing a good service to their customers.
I've already highlighted that they have the resources availiable to provide the same level of service they already give to their UK, US and ASIAN customers as they could to us. Yet they dont.
All of you sitting there saying 'ohhhh but they have nooo reeeaaasssoonnn too' are full of shit. They have every reason to expand their service level to the same high standards they already provide to most of their customers to their neiche/tertiary customers PROVIDING THEIR BUSINESS MODEL SUPPORTS IT --- WHICH !!!! IT!!!! DOES!!!!
This whole attitude of 'it makes no sence because it doesnt make them more money' is absolute bullshit and it pains me to hear it come from your mouth Trog, since your the one that gets to chat with these fuckers. They need to realise that we love their game but they are losing us (ME) because we cant compete at the top teir of contect like the other fuking users can. Anyone who has tried to reach 2000+ in arena will completly understand what im talking about here and anyone that had their raids effected by massive INTERNET lag (not talking about server lag) will also be able to relate.
Posted 11:30am 08/4/10
It's like internode saying 'well there is no point putting in more adsl2 dslams where we already have maxed out ADSL1 dslams ... because we already have maxed out customers on our adsl1 hardware exchanges'
They up their SERVICE and PRODUCT provisioning to their customers because their total business plan can support it and it provides a better SERVICE LEVEL.
Posted 11:36am 08/4/10
Posted 11:42am 08/4/10
If you're happy enough to keep paying like every single WoW player I know is (even though that aren't actively playing the game, wtf) then I don't think this is something that we can bitch about. If every Australian WoW player unsubscribed en masse, you'd have a case. I cannot in good conscience get in their face about not having local servers, because I honestly believe it doesn't make a difference. It's different with FPS gamers ; I am always up in FPS developers shit saying "why the fuck don't you guys have dedicated servers already" and have been for as long as I can remember - because with an FPS game, local servers are necessary or the game is basically unplayable.
Until all my WoW buddies come to me saying "well, shit, I had to stop playing WoW because it became unplayable" then I'll continue to pass on concerns that people would like local servers, but I'm not going to stand up and start shouting about it because frankly I think it'd make me look like a dick.
Posted 11:42am 08/4/10
RNG I can handle. Latency, I cant do anything about. So yes, i feel pretty damn passionatly about this. I have the experience and history, especially with wow to comment on this.
Posted 11:56am 08/4/10
I guess what I'm trying to say gamer is that I'm really not buying your argument.
Posted 12:07pm 08/4/10
saying it's so doesn't make it so
nope, it's like internode saying "we should put broadband infrastructure at mt dare because the 3 people there only have dialup - it would cost us 2.5 million dollars, but we made 135 million dollars profit across all of our operations, therefore it makes sense"
Posted 12:11pm 08/4/10
Posted 12:13pm 08/4/10
and do I hate incorrect analogies.
Posted 12:15pm 08/4/10
it would've been funny if we'd rocked up and found the dude browsing porn online ;)
Posted 12:15pm 08/4/10
Who'd a thunk it? Its like facepalm and thermite had a lovechild.
Posted 12:22pm 08/4/10
if that's stupid then what does that make the NBN
Posted 12:38pm 08/4/10
lol @ "I would say it’s possible and that it’s something we talk about on a regular basis"
It's like some junkies asking their crack dealer to cut them a little slack, c'mon you know we're good for it.
Posted 12:42pm 08/4/10
..speaking of incorrect analogies
Posted 12:59pm 08/4/10
Provide stats of the total number of AU/NZ players trying for gladiator status and stats of those that actually got it otherwise sit the fuck down.
When you hold a fucking monopoly on a game engine and the best mmo availiable at the moment your casual users (thats who your talking about here) obviously arnt going to fuking un-sunscribe.
That DOESNT MEAN you shouldnt seek to provide the best service to all your customers.
No. It's not. It's exactly the fucking same and saying that just shows your ignorance and perhaps lack of experience with the wow engine and this matter in general and perhaps in games outside fps gaming.
Put 4 years into wow at the higher brackets of pve and pvp progression and then come back and try and say that. Alot of the game has been redisgned to help - which is why darkjedi's post means fuck all. For example there used to be a time where you had to wait for your 'global cooldown' before you could hit your interup. Now you can interupt at any time, despite global cooldown being up.
Despite those changes you'll always be at a significant disadvantage for numerous reasons that are obvious.
Anyone who has competed in DOTA tournies over the internet then gone and to lan for the finals will tell you playing over those two mediums in a game that are measured in SECONDS not tens of seconds is VERY different.
How unusual, jim being a fuckwitt and contributing nothing but dumbshit comments
No it's not. Your trying to dilute my analogy by stretching it to extremes so it becomes something of ridicule. As fucking usual.
You know the easy thing for me to do is to shut the fuck up and not share my opinion. It's certianly easier then havinb to put up with all the fuking gays that enhabit these threads between the 'chunky' decent stuff.
I'm not going to do that though because thats what these threads are all about. The sheer fact there is 1 vs a bazzilion of people in this thread just goes to show you have the typical fuckwitts with no experience in what they are talking about trying to counter argue something.
I respect those that get on here and have their opinions but not when they are just headhunting for 'gamer' posts to counter argue against. Like Jim in his inifinate immaturity does serially.
Exactly. When looking at a service model you dont pick those customers that cost the most and say 'we'll cut them from service' - unless your a fuking insurance company I suppose.
Most companys would look at those customers that are effected and choose to put the most time into them.
Blizzard has made small design changes to things such as
- timezone (so its night/day at proper times) - for 'oceana' servers
- very minute combat system changes (with no wonder - when they expected people to interupt 100% of the time on 2second time windows 15-30 times during the course of some boss fights in TBC)
- the store now ships to australia (took them a year but they can finally now ship us a keychain authenticator which costs $15au but postage is still $60 .. gg)
and I give them credit for those changes however when you start talking about a centralised server model like blizzard has and then start talking about e-sports and work pve progression rankings and then start saying that customers have equal oppertunity despite their location just isnt true
Posted 01:05pm 08/4/10
It's not even close to being feasible at those prices.
BTW, even with our high ping Oceanic players can still perform pretty well.
The guild Adept got the US 1st, World 4th kill of 10man Heroic LK. Yes, they basically poop-sock their way to it, but they're obviously good enough to balance out their higher pings.
Posted 01:32pm 08/4/10
Here is my list...
1. Melee classes maintaining a perfect position ontop (or behind/aside) of a target and yet you receive the 'target no in range' error when attempting to hit them. The same goes for ranged classes that keep a good 10 yards from a melee target just to be hit by them.
2. Interupts. A hasted 1 second spell such as a flash of light had just under a second a normal 300-500ms latency to a US server would mean we've already lost near 50% of the cast time to interupt this spell. With spells becoming faster and haste effect being stacked these days, fast cast spells are becoming a healers bread and butter in wow.
3. Fighting the server. When you tell a spell or ability to cast it sends a signal to start that spell to the server, this signal then is either denied to allowed by the server. This is part of what helps wow seam so 'smooth' during gameplay. The problem with this is the below
below is a 1 second spell being cast by a LPB
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below is what a aus HPB person sees as the spell being cast
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where _ is the delay in latency between aus HPB and server. So the spell is casting at 0ms on the server and finished at 1000ms. An aus pseron sees that spell being cast at 500ms (500ms latency) and then finishing at say 1500ms). This of course attempts to make the experience 'relative' for the HPB comapred to the LPB and does a decent job however a 'clash' exists in various sitations where the server says something is 'denied' when it really isnt (evident when trying to interupt a quick spell, despite getting the interupt off, but the spell isnt interupted).
This is more obvious when you are a caster and you want to chain cast spells (to maximise your dps)
this is a 2sec fireball for example
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this is what happens for australians
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500ms delay where client tells server i want to cast ... 2 second spell cast on server ... 500ms delay of client telling server i want to cast etc.
This ends up costing 1 'fireball' every 4 casts. (crude example). this was addressed by attempting to allow the client to send 'i want to start fireball now' messages to the server every press... despite the global cooldown.
So quite often youll see casters having to use 'stop casting' macros to 'cancel' their cast and cast another fireball when their fireball is only 1.5seconds through casting in order to correctly 'chain' fireball casts in order.
(tryin to explain this to non wow players or experienced pve'ers is fucking hard but ill try - sigh)
I played wow while in America and it's amazing how different movement and overall combat is in both a pve and pvp setting because of this obvious problem. Various things we're brough into the game to try and handle this such as 'snares' but do very little when you cant actually touch the target to snare it. The amount of spamming you need to do in australia to 'battle' with the server in order to reduce the effects of being a HPB is beyond a joke.
Posted 02:05pm 08/4/10
I have a shockingly high amount of /played time (around 570 days on my Priest), and we're 10/12 in Heroic 25man ICC. I'm also one of the developers of SimulationCraft so I have a pretty good understanding of mechanics including latency.
Yes, it's annoying, but at the same time it's still possible to perform well enough to have an enjoyable experience on the whole and to accomplish the tasks set out for you.
And it still makes NO sense at all from a financial point of view for Blizzard or Activision or Vivendi to have Oceanic servers if those prices quotes earlier for HoN servers are applicable to WoW.
p.s. I also play a Shadow Priest. i.e. I have DoTs and my main nuke is a short duration channeled spell. Trust me, I know what latency is like...
Posted 02:21pm 08/4/10
you come in frothing and foaming at the mouth and when people provide arguments against what you're saying you just froth even harder and lamely gloss over their comments claiming they are contributing nothing. for example you silently discount posts where I've replied with nothing but cordiality and helpfulness, and then cry when I say something in this thread that you don't like, and then claim that's all I ever do. what a crock
several of the things you've said in this thread are easily argued against such as reasonable business practices and whether hit-scan fps games are more affected by latency than auto-target mmo games, yet your response is just 'look at all the people arguing against me, you are all idiots'
if you don't like people pointing out the flaws in your comments, cop it sweet
Posted 02:29pm 08/4/10
Hasn't happened to me once in the past 6 months since I've been playing again, on my priest or on my paladin. Maybe you just need a better net connection?
Sounds like a fool's errand even trying to sit there and interupt that. Why not try silencing the healer, stunning the healer, cc'ing the healer. All much better alternatives to sitting around crying about how you can't interupt a super fast hasted flash heal. I don't really do arena so I find it hard to care, but surely you'd just adapt to your situation instead of constantly trying the same thing that doesn't work, and the raging about it.
Well I was going to reply to this, but it seems you already found the solution by yourself.
There you go, problem solved! And how much cheaper was that then setting up Australian servers! Even better, install something like Quartz and it'll divvy up your cast bar to show you the latency, so you know exactly when your spell is actually finished casting and you can move/re-cast/whatever.
Sure, Australian servers would be nice, but I really couldn't care that much if we never get them. The game is still perfectly playable, and its easy enough to adapt to any small problems the lag creates.
Posted 02:45pm 08/4/10
It's not as simple as building some servers and hooking them up to the local network. Blizzcon is 2 days. They spend 2 weeks prior setting up 1 local server for the LAN play, and that server is a realm relay which just pipes the users into the Blizzard alpha PTR. Given that Blackrock-US is approximately 20 servers all up. To replicate realms to a colocation here would overtake their capacity for racks and power very quickly. I would stab at an easy $20 million for Blizzard to do what they need to do here properly. Being that Blizzard would overwhelm any colo in Australia, I would see them either partnering up with a large ISP like Internode or iiNet or possibly Telstra or building their own facility here which removes any chances of some insider attack from another customer colocated host. Each layer of complexity would cost more and more plus will require maintenance fees which could build up to negate the profit coming from the Australian player base.
Gamer: It would be cheaper for them to move you to the US so you can shut the fuck up about latency.
Posted 03:02pm 08/4/10
One other thing. Anyone know how many people per server til they say it's "full"? Could all the aussies play on 1 realm or would they need a few?
Posted 04:16pm 08/4/10
I bought 2 of them a good year ago now (yes they shipped to Aus) and it cost no more than 25-30 dollars (including postage)
Posted 04:20pm 08/4/10
I have an unused Authenticator if anyone wants one. I got one but used my iphone instead.
Posted 04:30pm 08/4/10
It was nice having a ping of 20ms while playing Warhammer Online. Unfortunately the game wasn't very good.
Posted 04:41pm 08/4/10
Posted 05:07pm 08/4/10
What guild are you in?
EDIT: omg priest info
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Posted 05:41pm 08/4/10
Posted 05:43pm 08/4/10
It's not a battle for blizzard, it's a battle for wow players. If they wanted, they snap their necks and magically have servers up and running in an instant. But I'm pretty sure as everyone else has pointed out, they don't want to.
Posted 05:57pm 08/4/10
Posted 09:42pm 08/4/10
Posted 09:55pm 08/4/10
A bunch of ICC items were named after various theorycrafters.
Posted 10:01pm 08/4/10
Hey Gamer, Rohk wins, he's got a trinket named after him :P
Also, I'm sure Ruhk entirely forgets we were in the same guild...
Posted 10:05pm 08/4/10
And my QGL/FPS shooter game name is Rukh ;P
I go by Delmortis or Althor in WoW though.
Posted 10:05pm 08/4/10
Posted 10:09pm 08/4/10
linkies
Yahoo pipes can do some interesting stuff.
Posted 10:16pm 08/4/10
Now I play eve... I'm much better at spreadsheet simulators ;)
Posted 10:59pm 08/4/10
Also, i have to question why our bandwidth costs are so high?
If Origin could put up an Oceanic Ultima Online server a decade ago, when bandwidth costs were at their highest, then why cant Blizzard put up any?
Maybe they are looking for bandwidth in the wrong places.
Posted 11:10pm 08/4/10
Since I started back though I've been on dath'remar. I went care bear, couldn't stomach the thought of levelling another character up from 1 to 80 on a pvp server, just way too frustrating.
Posted 11:12pm 08/4/10
I'd imagine the requirements (bandwidth and hardware) for a UO server back in the day would have been far, far, far, far, far less than for WoW now.
Posted 01:50am 28/4/10
The passion and sentiments put forward by gamer .. while being perhaps somewhat brash and abrassive .. ARE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY HOW I FEEL AS WELL.
it seems to me that the majority of you who have commented on what he has said either a) don't play wow, and as such don't matter. b) do play wow but not a great deal of the more intense end of the game ie. arena, progression or c) are the kind of person happy to just take whats given.
countless are the times I have dreamed of being able to play wow with low latency .. I've never played with anything under about 370ish minimum .. and usually more like 450.
I main a warrior who is a melee class, positional latency as i call it .. is my bane .. the game is an inherintly mobile game .. for pvp I need to be within range of my target in order to hit it, or use the majority of my abilities. Latency is a direct modifier to the difficulty of this. I am not inclined to go any further into the detail of how this effects me simply because its complicated, suffice to say, combating positional latency requires an extreme amount of concentration in the form of prediction.
I feel that comparing wow to fps games is stupid .. they are not the same .. imo fps is pure twitch and spacial awareness and so i can see how those who play them mostly, consider wow to be requiring far less in terms of quality ping. I don't agree with this, but i'm not going to try to explain why .. its pointless .. i think that gamer has attempted to do this and its fallen on deaf ears.
In the last 5 years I think its been .. that i have been playing .. I've given blizzard more than $1000 of my money and while I have def gotten my moneys worth in time played, I feel that this is a substancial amount of money .. and that perhaps considering the amount in comparison to .. any other game .. we might be talking about an undertaking or investment that is surpassing .. any other game
I don't care about how viable it is for blizz to set up an aus server .. I just want them to do it .. simple.
I've been saying it for years .. I would be more than happy to pay extra for it.
Posted 11:15am 28/4/10
But gamer is correct - in high end arena, ping makes a big difference, and anyone who is saying that the ping doesn't make a difference for an MMO is wrong and is simply not playing the game at a level that you would notice.
Playing a feral druid, I have to be behind the target to shred. Now i use the Internode WoW gateway so my ping is ~250-300ms which isn't bad, but there are still times i get the "you must be behind your target" when im dead on their back. Another time you really notice the lag is when using feral charge. You end up yards away from the target instead of dead on their back. And I notice the improvement when going from no gateway to gateway'd wow, but its still not perfect.
My brother (who got Rank 1 (RGlad) in 5's last season) said he was about at the skill cap for his class on his ping. On a tougher battlegroup he wouldn't have been able to win it purely due to some of the reasons gamer listed. 500ms is an exaggeration, but even using tunnels 250ms seems to be about as low as it can go, and that is enough to make a difference. The reaction times you require in FPS games are only a few ms faster than what you require in top end pvp.
But as others have mentioned, Australians are obviously happy to continue to pay their subscription to play on US based servers, so why would they change it ?
Posted 11:21am 28/4/10
oh hey I raided with you last night (pug 25 TOC that fell apart on Anub due to leaving emo's). I'm Aeioula (NE druid).
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Posted 12:41pm 29/4/10
I use telstra dsl 2 here in Brisbane with a lower ping subscription and I sit on about 180-190ms at all times including in 25 man raids.
Without LP i sit on about 250ms with the TCPAckFrequency registry change.
I am completely happy paying the extra $8 a month to LP to play Warcraft at a lower latency it does make a difference.
I would also be happy to pay the extra 48 a month to Blizzard to put a server out here in Australia. But I see it as a pretty simple business decision for them. Income > costs. Until it is financially viable for them to put a server here I would suggest enjoying the other benefits to living in Australia like enjoying our golden polution free beaches, sunshine, democracy and lack of R18+ game classfication(had to say it).
If you want to play Warcraft with a 50ms connection i suggest you move to the USA and buy yourself a gun to keep safe over there.
Posted 03:18pm 29/4/10
(Esp thanks to Gloth who registered an account just to say his bit/support my comments)
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Posted 05:12pm 29/4/10
Would switch to a oceanic realm, but I don't want to pay (what was it?) ~$30 per character to transfer.
Posted 05:33pm 29/4/10
Posted 05:47pm 29/4/10
You can argue with all the passion you want, but business is business.
Posted 06:54pm 29/4/10
Riiighhtt...
The main point is we need people who are going to interview wow devs etc to have a fucking clue and be fighting the fight to at least try.
I think the wow players among us understand just the same if not more (due to their years of devotion) about how insurmountable the odds are that we'll get any services presented to Australia.
That's no reason not to try and to ask the hard questions during interviews when your meant to represent us.
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Posted 07:05pm 29/4/10
I'm not anti-local server or anything. Would it be better? Absolutely. Do I need them to play the game? No, not really. Thats just me personally though, I'm not speaking for every WoW player in Australia, people who want to top the rankings in Arena and stuff are probably in a different boat, but once again thats such a tiny percentage of people that even if they quit playing WoW altogether, it'd be like a drop or water in the ocean for Blizzard,it would have no noticeable impact at all. So they're not going to spend the money setting up servers to cater for those people.
Posted 08:34pm 29/4/10
Posted 08:52pm 29/4/10
Posted 09:17am 30/4/10
2. Players in Australia 100,000 if your lucky.
3. Bandwidth, hosting, salaries etc etc no cost benefit if anything more expensive. Yes we have Oceanic and Latin America servers but they are hosted with the US based servers for economy of scale.
4. If your that upset vote with your feet and leave the game, if WoW population dropped significantly that they had to start shutting down servers instead of adding them they they would start to listen.
No one is saying that it wouldn't be nice to have < 100ms pings but the reality is it will never happen in the short term. Hell some of the Americans that I play with have 200ms+ pings because they have shitty internet just like we do here.
Posted 01:51am 28/6/10
Posted 02:30am 28/6/10
It's not that Blizzard is filled with clueless noobs who don't understand how wonderful it would be for you to get 60ms pings to their server. They've done the maths and have realised that it simply isn't cost effective to put a server here.
Devotion? Hah! Take your feelings of entitlement and fuck yourself to death with them. Do you bitch and moan about your devotion to Coles, Westfield or Today Tonight?
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There's one very simple reason that Australia doesn't generally get directly provisioned for MMO servers. As a potential market we're basically non-existent in the grand scheme of things, and the people who greatly suffer from it are a tiny percentage of that.
Posted 02:32am 28/6/10
from an outsiders point of view the analogies of basic business strategy seems to override any jedi fat kid temper rants.
i see your schwartz is as big as mine!!!
Posted 09:01am 28/6/10
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Posted 08:40pm 27/7/10
Even as a Mage in the Battlegrounds, watching my Pyros apparently hit targets first only to see some Yank getting all the killing blows was fricking annoying!
I loved the game and can only imagine how amazing it must be to play it with a true 6ms ping - especially in PvP.
Maybe it doesn't make financial sense to put servers in Aus, but what about putting some in Singapore and tapping into the South-East Asian market as well? Maybe that would be win/win for Australians, Kiwis, Indonesians, Malayasians etc.?
And gamer - mate I know EXACTLY what you mean. I felt the same way but it's impossible to get this through to the casual style of player.
Posted 09:09pm 27/7/10
what gives you this undeserved sense of entitlement to the point where you expect a profit seeking company to commit to a hugely cost-ineffective capital investment just so you can have a marginally improved user experience?
also, how lol would it be if gamer was being his own wingman itt.
Posted 09:11pm 27/7/10
I hear most of them get their speed increases from disabling packet caching and routing traffic through more direct and bandwidth heavy paths.
Posted 03:44am 26/10/10
Theoretically - When you begin to insinuate a situation where a gamer who has spent roughly 3 years of wow playing, adding the fact that an addicted wow player would on average spend 50% of their lives playing wow and every night your pvping and arenaing and you die and you know the reason you've died is not so much skill vs skill but higher latency vs lower latency, over time this frustration will build up and each day you keep hoping that things will change and then your hope is squashed because Blizzard doesn't think its economically the best business choice to make.
Fuck that fuck them, but you can't really blame them.
I Do not think anyone has mentioned the new proposed plans Telstra has made that could fix everyones problems. They are building fiber optic cables under the sea directly from Aus - US....10x faster or something. thats 450ms to about 150ms
But its an 8 year project. So the gamers today will probably have a family then and don't need to escape reality.
Posted 07:35am 26/10/10
Remember, American companies are greedy :p
Posted 07:36am 26/10/10
Posted 07:40am 26/10/10