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Post by Steve Farrelly @ 11:28am 09/03/10 | 26 Comments
![]() Today, however, it was revealed the debate itself is important enough to the government, who've realised even more they need to pay close attention to gamers, with word that some 55,000 submissions were made in favour of the introduction of an R18+ rating for games over the course of the paper's open hours, which ran from December through to the end of February. Though in saying that, the Australia Christian Lobby Group has challenged the credibility of the 55,000-strong response, claiming commercial ties with gaming companies and the general consensus among gamers that games are not linked to sparking violence and aggression as "reminiscent of the tactics of tobacco companies in questioning the link between smoking and lung cancer," as printed in their March newsletter. Regardless, the strength of the overall response (bear in mind several organisations also submitted on behalf of large numbers of people such as the EFA) means the issue will likely find its way into the next meeting of state and territory attorneys-general. Stay tuned as we dive deeper.
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Posted 11:33am 09/3/10
Fucking religion has nothing to do stepping into a gaming arguement. Go do some shit over in hatti to help some people you kiddy fuckers.
Glad that Game and EB got so many signatures together for this. Should help push this along. I guess now we just play the waiting game and time will tell what happens.
Posted 11:39am 09/3/10
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Posted 12:09pm 09/3/10
The comments from the Christian Lobby aren't incredibly constructive, but neither is this.
Posted 12:11pm 09/3/10
Posted 12:13pm 09/3/10
So stop being an stereotypical angry nerd, put your thinking hat on, and come up with an intelligent counter-claim.
Posted 12:17pm 09/3/10
religion is a personal choice, our elected officials shouldn't be pushing their personal views
Posted 01:04pm 09/3/10
100% agreed. Unfortunatly hard to do.
Yeah that was a bit overboard I admit. If they really wanted to help though they would be all for this new rating and push for a big campaign on it being introduced. Right now they only seem to be saying "it's going to kill your kids like smoking. Don't listen to them, listen to us"
Posted 01:48pm 09/3/10
Games are hardly that educational on a practical level either. Most of my knowledge of how to make fertilizer bombs actually comes from reading novels by authors such as Tom Clancy. I'm sure if I tried "death from above" like Assassin's Creed II, I'd probably be the one needing the tombstone. - Ouch -
Linking game publishers to big tobacco is way off course. A more accurate comparison would be the hype of Dungeons & Dragons creating axe murderers in the 80s. It was never proven and pretty much ended after a while.
Who really gives a toss anyway. Set up a VPN with the other end in the US and you can download via Steam or Direct 2 Drive anything you want. It's far cheaper than buying retail as well.
Posted 02:11pm 09/3/10
It helps if the opposition actually wants to discuss it though.... I've tried sending members of the ACL emails asking them about some of the false information they have been spreading about the R18+ classification. I am yet to get a response back from them.
Posted 02:15pm 09/3/10
Posted 02:34pm 09/3/10
Yet somehow we have very limited violence that can be correlated with gaming.
It seems to me that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence against the fictional link that the Australian Christian Lobby would have us believe exists.
Posted 02:31pm 09/3/10
Posted 02:44pm 09/3/10
Yet, just like every other classic fear campaign, there are no references to this 'research', how it was carried out and the population sample that was under study.
Even if such a body of evidence exists - is it even relevant to our particular set of circumstances in Australia?
The only thing this newsletter is good for is keeping your fire alight during Winter, if you accidentally printed it.
Posted 03:02pm 09/3/10
No there's not and I'll stab anybody in the face who says so!
..umm...I mean...No there's not.
Posted 03:15pm 09/3/10
There will be less product deemed suitable for those in the 15-18 bracket, potentially a lot less. The number of RC titles or titles challenged and altered is really quite low. Gamers are actually pushing for more restrictions with an 18+ category, not less. One would imagine that laws to make providing access to the material a very serious offense (like smoking or drinking laws) wouldn't be challenged by gaming groups.
Both sides seem to want the same thing.
Posted 03:16pm 09/3/10
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Posted 04:06pm 09/3/10
haha I just had a mental image of some dude getting shot and calling the coppers hax0rz.
Posted 04:37pm 09/3/10
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Posted 05:33pm 09/3/10
Lets prey that everyone gets sick to death of this shitbag crook shitkinsonofabitch and votes him out eventually he will get dislodged from his seat
Posted 08:02pm 09/3/10
To be honest I think this is more of a generational problem. We've grown up with games and understand their content and effects 1st hand. Old people didn't, and don't.
Posted 10:07pm 09/3/10
For them to say that this is the same as the tobacco industry is completely wrong because for the tobacco industry there are actual proven studies and show this kind of thing. In this case all there is a a few random studies conducted by people who are bias against video games and quite often with no information at all shown about the tests.
Posted 10:12pm 09/3/10
And it won't have anything to do with something so trivial as banning AvP.