There's been a lot of rumbling about Google's
Nexus One, their hot new entry into the mobile phone market. The Android-powered phone continues to draw attention amongst tech-types who are looking for alternatives to certain other multi-touch capable devices as the competition in the smartphone market heats up.
Nats has taken the Nexus One through its paces, giving the all-important software-side a thorough investigation - so if you're interested in an in-depth examination of this hot new phone, then
head over and have a read!
Posted 03:00pm 08/2/10
Pity it's difficult getting one in Australia (as usual). Also, I wonder what the various android readers are like - anyone with an android phone know about this?
Posted 03:19pm 08/2/10
Posted 03:22pm 08/2/10
@Eorl - Android is an operating system, not a phone. An increasingly large number of phones will be running Android as the o/s soon.
Posted 03:36pm 08/2/10
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Posted 03:36pm 08/2/10
Like I say in my conclusion, after using it for a while - its a great phone, and I won't be going back. If you aren't addicted to iTunes I definitely recommend checking out either the N1 or one of the other Android phones that are hitting the market later this year.
Posted 03:36pm 08/2/10
Posted 03:37pm 08/2/10
Hah, signal coverage on 2100mhz is anus, and also more power consuming.
Slightly more on topic, is there an index to this article or am I just missing it? I wanted to go to the conclusion/final thoughts and I had to scroll-to-the-bottom-click-next about 4 or 5 times.
On topic, I would be buying one of these if I didn't already own an iPhone (which seems to be a pretty common response), and considering there's probably a new iPhone revision coming out june/july when my contract is up I might just wait and see what's there first.
Posted 03:42pm 08/2/10
Haha I was thinking the same thing when I had to click through to the conclusion.
Agree with the last comment too - and since I don't have an iPhone, it will most likely happen!
Posted 03:52pm 08/2/10
Currently Optus are blocking paid apps from the Android app market. Google pays telcos 30% of the app market revenue but Optus seem to be rejecting this and are 'working to bring the Android application market to customers'. A common conclusion is that Optus are being greedy, but without the ins and outs about what sort of bandwidth is required to support app market style services who really knows if they are are or not.
There is a way to work around it though, so that's probs not a deal breaker - but it's another hassle, and workarounds cannot be relied upon.
Posted 03:54pm 08/2/10
You answered all of the questions that I would want to investigate. I like how you compared the iPhone and the N1 with maturity, objectivity and composure. No hyperbole or exaggeration, I liked it.
Seems the N1 has more future functionality freedom potential than the iPhone, but the iPhone has more Apps now and works well with all it's proprietary hardware knick-knacks. I like how the N1 is upgradable to 32GB with a micro SD card, meaning the user can carry around data and even have multiple sets as backup.
Posted 03:58pm 08/2/10
Yes good point Pinky, I actually forgot to mention the issue in the review but I find it infuriating. Its a very good reason to avoid Optus; I intend to shift carriers when my contract is up.
Posted 04:23pm 08/2/10
Posted 04:30pm 08/2/10
I hope that Apple can finally get a kick up the arse and start making the iPhone less "annoying", as much as it's a nice to use phone. Steve Jobs is turning into a cranky old megalomaniac (not that he ever wasn't).
The main thing that would stop me is the lack of 850MHz support, as I'm on Telstra.
Hog: this post is real, btw ;)
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Posted 05:14pm 08/2/10
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Posted 05:39pm 08/2/10
Every time I receive a call at home on my mobile, it reminds me that I should be looking at NextG compatible phones, because I'm in a 3G dead zone in the middle of fucking Chapel Hill and can hardly get any reception.
One of the best things is being able to use it to carry data around instead of on a usb (tho I guess you still need a cord or card reader), and also no itunes! yay!
Posted 05:43pm 08/2/10
EDIT: http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/33648-no-exchange-calendar.html covers the situation pretty well. No built-in support; you can pay $20 for an Android app someone makes that provides native connectivity, or you can run a program on your desktop PC to sync your exchange calendar onto your Gmail account.
Posted 05:48pm 08/2/10
I don't think Android is ready for me yet.
I will seriously consider the Dell Mini5 when it comes out. It looks sexy and is just that little bit bigger that its almost a dual phone / tablet.
Dell Mini 5 Hands-ON from Gizmodo on Vimeo.
last edited by mongie at 17:48:03 08/Feb/10
Posted 05:51pm 08/2/10
And the stuff with Optus is a real pain in the arse, as Pinky mentioned. I had to get root access to my phone and install an app called MarketEnabler, since those fuck-heads don't think I deserve to have access to paid apps.
EDIT: Hahaha, I just looked at that "Missing Sync for Android," what a useless piece of software.
Thanks Apple, but unlike your stupid phone, my contacts are synced wirelessly as standard, without the need for a computer, and I have access to my upgradeable storage like any other drive, so I don't need your bloated piece of shit software to copy music to my phone.
Those problems are isolated to the Nexus One, they're not standard Android issues.
DOUBLE EDIT:
That's odd, I'm just running stock-standard Android 2.0.1, and I have built in support for Exchange email and calendar syncing. I don't use it, but the apps are there, pre-installed.
last edited by Midda at 17:51:38 08/Feb/10
Posted 05:52pm 08/2/10
You're right - but there are just as many issues with the Milestone / Droid as there are with the Nexus 1.
(Thats not to say that the iPhone never had any issues, but i didn't buy an iPhone at release either).
Posted 05:58pm 08/2/10
Posted 05:59pm 08/2/10
Reading through that other thread, the theory/belief is that you have to pay Microsoft a fee to license the Exchange ActiveSync stuff which Google fob off onto the handset manufacturers to pay; Droid has full support because Motorola paid the fee.
Posted 06:03pm 08/2/10
Posted 06:29pm 08/2/10
Yes I have a Motorola Milestone too and loving it. Using Exchange for work email and gmail for personnel stuff, push email is awesome :)
Posted 06:40pm 08/2/10
Posted 06:40pm 08/2/10
I thought the Droid was an ugly phone until I saw the Nexus One.
Posted 06:43pm 08/2/10
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Posted 06:47pm 08/2/10
Call me a freak then (and referencing Nathan's comment about the phone that is more 'sexy' *shudder, I fukn hate that word, you don't have sex with your phone, mmmmk?*) but I think Nexus One looks better than the iPhone :-/
Posted 06:49pm 08/2/10
A lot of council officers are now being issued with 2 Sim cards/phones because there are a vast Number of Optus dead zones in the new Logan area.
My house (middle of Springwood) doesn't get Optus, I have to walk up the front and 20m down the road to get more then 1/2 a bar, even then it's barely 2. Telstra gets full service here.
Posted 06:51pm 08/2/10
Posted 07:03pm 08/2/10
You do realise that that software is not made by Apple, its just a 3rd party app?
Overall I really like the nexus one, especially the screen. I think android is a great OS (esp 2.1), and they finally have some solid hardware to run it on. Theres a few things that I would need to switch (exchange support + audible compatibility + tweetie), but I think the platform is definitely getting there. If I was google embedded (ie: used google services for everything) I'd definitely go for this phone (especially for google voice even though its not available here...yet). Although I'm sticking with the iPhone, I'm hoping for some awesome stuff to come from Android, any competition in the marketplace is decent, seeing RIM, MS and Nokia dropped the ball so hard!
Posted 07:07pm 08/2/10
The Nexus One is in my opinion one of the best looking phones I've seen; to me its just not quite up to iPhone, particularly on the back.
I don't regard it as a big difference, but in the interest of fairness I wanted to include it in my review.
Posted 07:08pm 08/2/10
Doesn't make my point any less valid.
And I think the Nexus One looks much better than the iPhone.
Posted 07:11pm 08/2/10
Wouldn't you just chuck a case on it to solve that issue though? Not really worth talking about IMO.
Posted 07:16pm 08/2/10
Posted 08:13pm 08/2/10
This could be a new meme, just for thermite
Posted 08:34pm 08/2/10
Well this makes me appriciate my 1 to 2 bars!
I was all for the N900, til I got to have a brief play with a friend's on the weekend. It's pretty chunky, although it looks great and the qwerty (i can't believe i spelt that wrong the first time..) is really good to use. However the camera is less than expected, which was disappointing as I had heard good things about Nokia cameras.
Posted 08:48pm 08/2/10
I had no idea that these things were this advanced. I kind of want one but can't really justify it since my current phone can already send messages which is all I use it for... Does skipping on the Telstra 3G thingy prevent using certain functionalities?
Posted 10:44pm 08/2/10
Functionalities like constant 5 bar service right out into the countryside? Yes.
Posted 10:50pm 08/2/10
Posted 11:31pm 08/2/10
My last two phones have been Sony Ericsson and I've been really happy. My mate bought the Xperia X1 and that had a major problem though - had to go in for repair and they replaced the hole back section with mainboard and everything.
Posted 11:33pm 08/2/10
Posted 11:46pm 08/2/10
The proprietry charger plugs and headphone sockets are starting to get on my nerves though.
Posted 01:00am 09/2/10
Posted 01:08am 09/2/10
Also, I dunno about you but I know which one I like more.
Posted 01:15am 09/2/10
Posted 07:50am 09/2/10
To me, c) is a massive problem - with nothing running on my N1 (with 512MB ram), Advanced Task Killer says I have just 263mb free.
Sony have come out and said they will move to Android 2.0 after launch, but from what I can see 512MB ram is mandatory for Android 2.x . One can only hope that the reported specs are wrong or they move to 512MB before launch.
I'm also sceptical that Sony will manage to support the phone with updated Android releases over time. This is one area that Apple have done really, really well on and is something the Android manufacturers are yet to figure out.
Posted 09:36am 09/2/10
The Milestone/Droid only has 256MB of RAM, and it launched with 2.0. 256MB is fine. Sure, 512MB would be nicer, but I've never run out of memory on my Milestone, and considering the Droid was the first Android phone in the world to run 2.0, 512MB is obviously not mandatory.
Posted 09:37am 09/2/10
Maybe I'll wait for the next iPhone and the "Nexus Two" and see how they compare.
Posted 11:28am 09/2/10
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Posted 12:52pm 09/2/10
the phone does look nifty though.
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Posted 12:59pm 09/2/10
lemme know how it goes, if it works out then i may have to follow you
Posted 01:47pm 09/2/10
The US proxy part is a bit troublesome (I was fortunate I already have a US webserver), but comGateway were very easy to deal with; very little difference vs just ordering direct.
I'm in the same boat, I had a phone with slide-out keyboard before my iPhone, and I just dont think it makes a big enough difference to justify the extra weight and size it adds.