Last night (well 3AM AEST today) was the Apple keynote at the WWDC 2009 and they've announced some pretty cool upgrades for the iPhone. Looks like the Palm Pre is probably going to be second best after all (IMO). From TUAW:
It's no big surprise, and John Gruber even got the name right.
Apple announced the new iPhone 3G S today, featuring faster processor speed, built-in video capture and editing, voice dialing and voice command, built-in compass, and of course it will be running iPhone 3.0. There's a much better camera in the iPhone 3G S as well. Here are the details:
Price (new): 16GB -- US$199, 32GB -- US$299
Capacity: 16GB or 32GB
Case color: Black or White
Dimensions: 4.5 inches x 2.4 inches x 0.48 inches (115.5 mm x 62.1 mm x 12.3 mm), 4.8 oz. (135 gms)
Camera / Video:
3 megapixels
Autofocus
Tap to focus
Video recording, VGA up to 30 fps with audio
Photo and video geotagging
iPhone and third-party application integration
Cellular and Wireless:
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
Location:
Assisted GPS
Digital compass
Wi-Fi
Cellular
Power and Battery
Built-in rechargeable lithium-ion battery
Charging via USB to computer system or power adapter
Talk Time: 3G - Up to 5 hours, 2G - Up to 12 hours
Standby time: Up to 300 hours
Internet use: Up to 5 hours on 3G, Up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours
Audio playback: Up to 30 hours
More pricing information and details will be posted shortly here on TUAW.
The phone itself looks pretty much the same as you can see. I can't say Telstra would have any upgrade deal, but who knows...
I can probably say that anyone who was on the fence about getting one probably won't have much trouble in making a decision now..
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Posted 08:10am 09/6/09
- New 32GB model available
- Faster CPU
- 3.0 megapixel camera, with video recording capability
- maximum 7.2Mbps HSDPA (up from 3.6)
I must say as a 3G owner, I'm not upset or feel like I should upgrade. I think it seems like a minor revision, and I guess Apple does too given the model name.
Posted 08:20am 09/6/09
I won't be upgrading as it wouldn't be cheap for me, but I sure would like the upgrades, especially the fast CPU and video recording.
I'm downloading the GM build (I think this is RC in Apple speak) of the beta firmware to see what else there is for existing 3G users.
I wonder if the voice command is available for all iPhones (it should be).
EDIT: Yeah its not :'(
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This is quite a good upgrade, but I'm wondering if Telstra (if any of them) will have any sorta upgrade deal, which I highly doubt.
Posted 08:29am 09/6/09
In terms of the ipod functionality, how's the sound quality? I assume it's the same as a stand alone ipod?
I wonder if vodafone will have the new model as soon as it's released.
The news.com.au article (link) says they've sold over 1 billion apps through the app store and over 40 million iphones globally, they sure have sold an assload!
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Posted 08:29am 09/6/09
Heardy, sound quality is amazing compared to older model iPods. Everytime I listen to music on mates' phones I want to throw up it's so bad.
Warning to anyone thinking about buying a new iPhone: you will have to use iTunes. Get over it BEFORE you purchase.
Posted 08:30am 09/6/09
Posted 08:33am 09/6/09
It's OK in good light, but not great.
It seems that this 3.0MP camera will at least be better quality, disregarding resolution, as the 30fps video recording requires a decent camera. The current 2MP camera SUCKS for video.
Posted 08:34am 09/6/09
Posted 08:39am 09/6/09
Yeah, I'm talking about the sensor speed. It blurs like a mofo and its prolly not even capable of decent looking 5fps video, so I can't imagine it this camera being any good for video (which it isn't).
Posted 08:53am 09/6/09
I'm much more interested in turn-by-turn Navigation from the likes of Tom Tom or Garmin - and that should work for anyone with a 3.0 if it gets through the App Store. If Apple continues to cockblock on this I'm gonna just JB and install xGPS.
Posted 09:03am 09/6/09
I have a 16gig 3G phone. I've had the hard drive pretty full but only because I had loaded about a dozen full length movies for the kids to watch in the car.
I'd prob go for the 32 gig next time round, just cause its there.
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Check out the mount you'll be able to buy for it. Apparently increases the GPS signal or something _/(o_o)\_
http://iphone.tomtom.com/
Posted 09:11am 09/6/09
Don't really see the point of a high megapixel count.
Would prefer a more sensitive sensor.
Posted 09:13am 09/6/09
T_T
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Also, I hate when people cry about photo resolution. HIGHER RESOLUTION MEANS NOTHING IF ITS A SHIT HOLE SENSOR
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http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0906paowdnv/event/index.html?internal=ijalrmacu
Posted 11:22am 09/6/09
Apps and other data are insignificant
a 350mb tv show is about 240mb when converted for iPhone
Posted 11:28am 09/6/09
iPhone 3.0 looks brilliant - can't wait for this to arrive in my iTunes downloader.
Posted 11:37am 09/6/09
Depends if you like using a phone like a iPod shuffle I guess. I only have an 8gig iPhone so I keep my 80gig iPod around just so I can carry a fair bit of music around with me. If you're cool with updating the playlist on the iPhone fairly often and don't mind the "mannnn I really wanna hear that song but can't" then get the 16 instead of the 32.
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Android is just too sleek.
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There's no Australian pricing yet, but yes - in America iPhone 3G was launched last year on 24month contract at $199/$299 for 8GB/16GB , so they've kept the same price points for 3GS and doubled the SSD size.
Posted 02:19pm 09/6/09
Now I need to break this one somehow :/
Posted 02:30pm 09/6/09
Feature wise yes it's got everything including the kitchen sink and more but...I hate to say it but Nokia's Symbian platform is just stale, it's got UI and usability from the early 2000.....
I've seen video reviews of N97 was so frustrated as hell just to watch the sales chick demoing the unit... It just look so clunky to use... Seriously, even Win mo IMO, has better usability than Symbian.... and it's many light years behind iPhone OS.
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Symbian is going open source. And a new version is due out soon I believe.
Posted 03:09pm 09/6/09
Should be good, anything is better than the current progress of development. I used to be hardcore Nokia fan but it's hard for me to do so the past few years....
Posted 03:11pm 09/6/09
I will be upgrading, simply because I bought mine outright and I'm sick to death of pre-paid
It's time to go back on a plan, but only 12 months - none of this 24 month crap
I recharged with optus two weeks ago ($40) and within 72 hours it was 100% gone
I rang up to find out why, turns out if I don't put at least $50 per month on my phone I only get 10mb of data usage and they charge me $1.20 per SIXTY KILOBYTES OR PART THERE OF?!@!@!@ WTF
needless to say, I was pissed because it was a legacy plan and they said "just by saying you want to swap to <PlanX> you will get the same amount of calls + 100mb/month or what evs
I also just spent the long weekend on moreton and had no reception from the port of brisbane when I left until I got back into the port of brisbane
wouldn't bother me normally except I had to ring the old man on Sunday to say Happy b'day - mate with Telstra had full speed 3g internets
/rant
fuck optus, fuck vodafone
Posted 03:14pm 09/6/09
Gotta wait for the announcement of a GSM/UMTS version first.
Posted 03:15pm 09/6/09
i had to fight my way through to someone who put me on a $10/month data plan for 200mb, and got a credit for all the excess charges
Watch out for those Optus data scams cos they're terrible.
Posted 03:16pm 09/6/09
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< Jealous.
Posted 03:42pm 09/6/09
Vodafone did this too, except they tried to charge me $20/mb LOL
Posted 03:51pm 09/6/09
I'm with Telstra and I get frustrated without Next G.... I used to be able to get a solid call and intratubes access from just about everywhere on my Next G handset but, now it's touch and go in some places (even at my place) with their normal 3G network. Still I get more coverage than my friends who are with 3/Vodafone/Optus... The next handset will have to have the Next G network compatibility...
Posted 04:49pm 09/6/09
I think telstra have a tower somewhere on the island
I would consider going with them if they didn't charge exuberant rates for data
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but yeah, definitely looking forward to os 3.0, and my girlfriend's been holding off getting a 3g for a few months on the hope of this hardware bump, so looking forward to seeing how much faster it is too.
I hope virginmobile aren't arses about tethering.
Posted 05:20pm 09/6/09
Posted 06:02pm 09/6/09
June 26 is our date for the new hardware;
June 17 is when the iPhone OS 3.0 update is due for existing iphones.
Posted 07:44pm 09/6/09
AT&T in the US arent going to allow tethering afaik, but seriously - you're just pissing people off by doing this
charging them $99 to active tethering is a jewish money grubbing whore act
Posted 09:21pm 09/6/09
running the 3.0 beta and tethering runs beautifully.
If my carrier decides to not allow tethering, I'll just keep running the beta :)
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turns out apple know what features are actually important to spend effort on then hey? lucky you weren't at apple and led them to build another n95. totally baited :(hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheehehheheheheheheh
yeah the mp thing is silly, sensor size is where it's at.. which in any small device is going to be tiny right? so more mp = noisier photos that take up more space.
edit: use of copypaste
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ehehheheheheheheh
PS. I haven't missed MMS ever, and I think I've missed copy and paste once so far.
But yea, you're right lol. hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheheehehehehehe amazing os compared to vista rite
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Posted 12:16am 10/6/09
There's a ton of stupid little things that irk me about the iPhone's setup, as though they didn't think very hard about usability beyond the very nice touch interface. It's a very nice piece of kit, but I think I'll be more carefully looking to see what the win mo guys are doing next time before jumping onto the iPhone wagon. There is a LOT of do-it-our-way you have to swallow.
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Another one to watch out for are those automated SMS services; they can individually be steep and rack up over time and since it's a 3rd party service (but with most of the $$ eventually going back to the carrier) the phone monkeys generally can't do anything about it.
Posted 08:38am 10/6/09
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http://i.gizmodo.com/5284779/iphone-os-30-now-available-in-torrent-tested-it-works
Posted 08:25pm 10/6/09
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Installing the above firmware now, watch this space for a rant in 10 minutes about how I fucked up my phone :)
Posted 08:42pm 10/6/09
its less than two weeks away, I'm happy to wait
do want the new hardware though
Posted 08:44pm 10/6/09
I just got google calendars to sync to my iphone, and groupwise to sync to google.
v8 of Groupwise is going to have ActiveSync.... ie. native iphone support!
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I believe they have enabled MMS, don't think they have bluetooth though. I'm sure there's a list in one of the links posted though.
Posted 10:32pm 10/6/09
Just sent and received a test MMS, the pic in the message bubble is kind of funky. Landscape email is much, much nicer. The apps I've tried are all working OK. I think I like the way they do text selection for copy and paste.
Trying to get an early 8.2 iTunes now so I can make tethering work. The latest one from Apple won't let you install ipcc files!
Edit: woo got an 8.2.0.10 iTunes and now tethering is working, bluetooth and USB.
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Posted 10:37pm 10/6/09
I missed copy/paste before it was included. I've used it several times on the beta it works very well.
Looking forward to the full release but i got shit on at the moment so will wait for it officially (though apple servers will probably get overloaded).
Posted 10:51pm 10/6/09
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yeh the select mechanic will take some getting used to but at least it's functional :)
Posted 08:15am 11/6/09
What's difficult about it? Press and hold then adjust.
Posted 08:55am 11/6/09
There are some quirks mostly tied up with page structures and HTML blocks. It also fails to "copy" images from safari when they are inside a link - I tend to get the URL instead, and there's no option to choose URL or image.
When using two finger zoom it sometimes goes into text select mode.
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It works very well on pages designed for mobile devices - news.com.au for example (just for trog) is very easy to select hunks oof text.
I find the select tools awkward and cramped in the landscape mode editor, and I manage to hit done or the top bar a lot instead of the pop-up menus. This is purely because in landscape mode screen real estate is given to keys over text.
Unfortunately (at least on my device) once you go into landscape mode editing, Safari stops recognising changes in the accelerometer and won't go back to portrait mode without hitting the home button and returning. It would be much better if I could easily swing between portrait and landscape mode while in the Safari editor as it does in Email.
last edited by Hogfather at 09:21:18 11/Jun/09
Posted 09:24am 11/6/09
The problem with just swiping is that swiping is already assigned to scrolling so they couldn't have just gone with that.
Hmmm, it should go back to portrait but also it won't rotate while in editing. You have to close the keyboard first then roll to portrait or landscape
Posted 09:50am 11/6/09
Posted 10:16am 11/6/09
3dee, you said its possible in 3.0 to add multiple pics to an email in a thread a while back - is this just a copy paste thing?
Posted 10:40am 11/6/09
Yeah. Go into photos, hit action button and tap multiple images then hit copy and then in mail paste them in.
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If you didn't know the 3G S has a "anti-fingerprint" anti scratch coating now.
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Anyway,here is a 13 minute video that gives a guided tour of the new iPhone 3GS here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4aQpczZC00
Posted 02:25pm 11/6/09
Posted 02:29pm 11/6/09
digital zoom = crop. 'Camera Zoom' is a pretty good app that does this.
Posted 05:38pm 11/6/09
You're kidding me !@?
And 256MB of RAM up from 128MB 3dee
Posted 07:06pm 11/6/09
Go buy a camera if you want good photos.
ps. my camera won't send SMSs
Posted 11:59pm 11/6/09
does anyone know anything about the so called "Assisted GPS". Even optus states on their website the new 3.0 OS update has it. If so, (such as the tom tom application) what would be the pricing?
ps. if you a phone with a good camera buy a sony ericsson
Posted 08:05am 12/6/09
A-GPS has been around since iPhone 3G and iPhone OS 2.0 was launched. Essentially even the iPhone 2G has A-GPS, just without the GPS part since A-GPS uses cell towers to help triangulate position.
Posted 08:18am 12/6/09
Assisted GPS uses the mobile phone towers to work out an approximate location to use until GPS determines your exact location.
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Not crop, just interpolation.
But yes, you get no extra detail/information out of the scene you are capturing.
Posted 01:31pm 12/6/09
Well yeah, but some do a crop, some just resize a cropped area. Either way it looks BAD :P
Posted 09:33pm 25/6/09
Apparently, Apple stores will be selling the 3GS Outright and Unlocked as reported in this thread on Whirlpool http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1228756&p=1 with some details on http://www.apple.com/au/retail/iphone/
Priced at:
16GB – $879
32GB – $1049
For those not near Robina we'll have to wait for it to be available online.
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edit: bah cant see anywhere to buy it on the site.
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Posted 10:57pm 25/6/09
lol @ search results natslovR; 2 girls 1 cup :-P I refuse to even think about watching that.
I am still without a solid internet/app based phone. Going strong with the W880i, no need to change yet really. If the HDD was 120GB or something I would change for sure because I could get rid of the WD Passport I carry around.
Posted 08:40am 26/6/09
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How about letting us mount is as a network share? There's heaps of fucking options!
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Posted 08:53am 26/6/09
But the driver requirement could be a problem as you'd need it on every computer you plug it into.
Posted 08:59am 26/6/09
WTF 3dee, haha!
Posted 09:07am 26/6/09
Huh? The problem is that you wouldn't just be able to plug it in everywhere. You'd need to install the driver (and have it with you).
As much I'd like to use my iPhone as a bit of storage, I don't want to have to cart around a driver. You don't have this problem with flash storage and hard drivers since they're just plain old NTFS filesystems.
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I think the most useable solution is to use a wifi app to keep iPhone browser on your phone. That way you can copy/run it from any pc you have wifi with
But yes, it isnt perfect by any means
Posted 09:27am 26/6/09
Again - so what? The device is useless by design without iTunes installed.
So just bundle the fucking driver with iTunes. Yeh you won't be able to use it on random terminals but it would be a billion percent better than no file access at all.
Posted 09:33am 26/6/09
it was worth it just because its that much faster
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Huh? You would have it with you? On the iPhone dah, plug it in, driver installs... Pretty much like any other phone you can use as a modem or mass storage device.
Posted 09:40am 26/6/09
The iPhone doesn't use a Windows-visible file system. It uses Max OS X's HFS file system which Windows can't even see letalone read.
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I'm thinking of getting 49 with 14.99 net..all i can afford
Posted 10:44am 26/6/09
Hell no! ... I was there at midnight :P
we got out of the movies at 11.50pm and I figured what the hey, I'll have an iPhone
I sold my old 3G on Wednesday for $560 so I needed a new one :D
See above - sell your existing one if you want upgrade loving
it is noticeably faster
Posted 10:49am 26/6/09
Nice one.
I would like the upgrade but I'm not going to. Not worth the money atm, not to mention the Telstra contract :/
Posted 10:57am 26/6/09
They're already available, have been for over a week.
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Posted 11:04am 26/6/09
actually, he "needed" to get the phone at MIDNIGHT so he decided to go to the movies and made sure he picked a movie that got out just before midnight
he was dressed in a big foam rubber apple costume.
Posted 11:08am 26/6/09
Totaly wasn't worth the wait, If I had of known there was going to be that many people I would have just gone in next week or something
I did score some free swag though - car charger, screen protector, crystal case, beanie, scarf, free coffee & food while waiting in line etc
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=190314999582
Posted 11:29am 26/6/09
Posted 11:32am 26/6/09
i wouldn't call $500~ cheap
but then again, I probably got very lucky to get that price for it
Posted 11:38am 26/6/09
edit: oh am I allowed to sell here?
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telstra charge $150 even if you buy it outright (a mate got stung by this)
Posted 12:03pm 26/6/09
How do I get optus to unlock it, is there an online link ?
Posted 12:13pm 26/6/09
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Posted 12:50pm 26/6/09
Because we're on a business plan they unlocked my iPhone overnight.
Also:
How to turn off annoying auto-backup in iTunes. See notes in the comments for Vista / win7 prefs file location. Works well.
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not particularly tied to recent posts but fucking hilarious anyway
Posted 01:28pm 26/6/09
It'd be nice to completely integrate the music and phone aspects.
Posted 01:34pm 26/6/09
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No, that's $199usd upfront on a plan.
Posted 01:37pm 26/6/09
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right now on my new 32gb model i've only got 5 albums im listening to
i've used less than 1gb ..
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booyah!
Posted 10:53am 27/6/09
I can't log into my account to see what it says..
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also
PC World reports iPhone faults
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if it does, your browser is doing it wrong
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so you must use ie, which means you fail
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You suck at teh webdevs teq!
Posted 04:50pm 01/7/09
nothing out of the ordinary with mine so far.
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wouldn't turn on so i put it in a bowl full of rice and put it in the oven
got it out and it turned on no worries but gave him an error saying "warning the device is too hot"
i lol'd
also, i am loving the compass feature when using google maps
infidel; just download the carrier pack for tmobile to enable tethering
its bullshit that they try and charge you to use your device as a modem
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/03/19/complete-how-to-tethering-an-iphone-with-30-firmware/
etc, just google till you find the right one
optus tried to block me from tethering too but they can pretty much DIAF
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what the?? please explain.
edit: oh shows which way you facing, pretty friggen cool huh?!?1
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Posted 05:24pm 02/7/09
Me three. But I'm leaning towards buying from Apple as it comes unlocked.
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Posted 06:00pm 02/7/09
If you are in the valley and tethered, can you do a speedtest for me, and post results??
Posted 12:26pm 06/7/09
3GS jailbreak is out in the wild.
http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-make-it-ra1n.html
Posted 12:59pm 06/7/09
Wifi Test:
3Gs 3G (Optus, Fortitude Valley) Test #1
3Gs 3G (Optus, Fortitude Valley) Test #2
Posted 02:45pm 06/7/09
Posted 02:53pm 06/7/09
But you're on an Optus Plan yeah?
Posted 03:10pm 06/7/09
How do you take screenshots???
Posted 03:25pm 06/7/09
how does it compare? not really sure tbh
using my old 3G iphone with the lappy (via tethering) before Origin Game II was working just fine
I was staying in a hotel at Blacktown (far western Sydney) and it was as good as using wifi internets
I'm on an optus plan yes
Posted 03:47pm 06/7/09
This is because holding Home button is now assigned to Voice Control (in 3GS).
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Posted 08:55pm 14/7/09
wifi
3g on my 3gs
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Posted 11:00pm 14/7/09
ppl might find that useful.
Calculator to find which provider is best for you.
Posted 08:11am 15/7/09
Posted 09:15am 15/7/09
RE 3.0 software, I have found my iPhone to be running extremely sluggish lately... :(
Posted 09:21am 15/7/09
i'm into the 15th month of my current contract
and i'm not ringing the cunts because it rages me when i get someone that can't speak english
Posted 09:25am 15/7/09
I have no need for a new phone - and I definitely wouldn't want to buy it overseas anyway. I want something to read on for the next few months over here.
Posted 11:15am 18/7/09
Posted 12:29pm 18/7/09
3 seems the best bet for me which is good since I'm already with them. The phones must be really over priced to buy outright, costs $1k from the Apple store for the phone or $1400~ over a $49 24 month contract with 3. Paying $400 or so for 2 years worth of phone and data isn't bad.
Posted 01:57pm 18/7/09
Posted 04:07pm 18/7/09
Buy it from Australia's Apple Store online.
Posted 01:59pm 19/7/09
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Posted 07:08pm 19/7/09
There's your problem.
Posted 09:17pm 19/7/09
Posted 09:45am 20/7/09
Remember 1.x? That was quick. 3.0 is finally a great operating system, but its just too slow for the previous gen hardware.
Posted 10:02am 20/7/09
This is just a ridiculous cop out - what
changestweaks have been made with the OS that should impact general performance?The OS patch was released for the hardware. According to your ever-glowing statements about how fucking wonderful everything is when Apple controls both hardware and software it should 'just work'!
Posted 10:34am 20/7/09
Posted 10:50am 20/7/09
It does just work fool. Its just slower coz compared to the original 3G firmware there's a lot more stuff in it which can bog it down after lots of general use. Think of the difference between Vista and XP. You run Vista on the same computer as XP and Vista uses more memory, more CPU etc.
Simple as pie. 3.0 requires more resources than 2.0, which was the same as 1.0 to 2.0. 3G has limited resources (128MB for EVERYTHING including video memory etc).
Posted 10:59am 20/7/09
Haha 3dee, it is a copout. You are CONSTANTLY going on about the fact that Apple ties its hardware to the software, and controls the entire shebang which is why its so bloody wonderful and everything is awesome in the land of Steve Jobs.
Newsflash dude, Vista is not INTENDED to run on all computers that XP was released to run on. There are a new set of recommended hardware minimums.
OS3.0 is INTENDED to run on iPhone series 1 and 3G. It was written specifically for these devices, and released through the Store as an upgrade. Where was the performance degradation warning that you are running it on an out of date device? The SMALL amount of change in the OS should not degrade performance if Apple have any idea what they are doing.
The Vista-XP comparison is nowehere near relevant at all. You're reaching for straws and failing.
Also how does the OS get 'bogged down' after lots of general use? Apple took the easy way out and killed apps when they are closed rather than let them run in the background. Are you implying that there is an OS-level memory leak? If so see point above about knowing what they are doing.
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Posted 02:11pm 20/7/09
How come I can't have the excellent basic phone features added with 3.0 without the bloat that only runs well on the 3GS? Is this a ploy to make people want to upgrade?
If "just works" includes "works but is fucking slow and annoying" I can see why the it just works! Apple crowd are happy with iTunes, the slowest software on the planet.
last edited by Hogfather at 14:11:26 20/Jul/09
Posted 02:23pm 20/7/09
I've got an original gen 1 iPhone and iPhone 3G both running 3.0. They both have issues opening SMS but only when I've got a lot of messages on the phone and from what I can tell that's more the way it stores them in it's internal file database which causes the slowdown.
Do you mean upgrade as in upgrade to new firmware or upgrade as in restore to new firmware? Everything that I've ever done with an iphone has pretty much said "Don't upgrade it'll leave you with problems, restore"
It's actually quite funny, while I alternate between jailbroken and non jailbroken on average I've had to restore my phone every 2 months or so and reboot on a fairly regular basis - have apple created the ultimate Windows phone? I do screw around with them a bit, but still.
Posted 02:39pm 20/7/09
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Posted 05:19pm 20/7/09
Pretty much the only new feature I find useful is the cut and paste, but even that I use rarely. It would be nice to be able to cut and paste without every app running like a slow fucker.
I might try a full restore tonight and see if that cleans it up a bit.
Posted 05:52pm 20/7/09
Kinda frustrating.
Posted 06:37pm 20/7/09
Hah! I re-read my posts sometimes an hour later and realise that anything criticising my Apple products is a massive rant. I don't know why but I start talking about the problems with them and I get heaps e-angry.
See me in person though and I will wax lyrical about how much I love my phone. I think its 3dee's fault somehow, dude is my trigger. I see him spout something direct from the Apple Bullshit Manual and I see e-red.
True story, brb getting dragons.
Posted 08:37pm 20/7/09
Posted 09:28pm 20/7/09
PS love the phone ))
Posted 09:34pm 20/7/09
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Posted 09:50pm 20/7/09
you don't need a cover, and don't spoil your phone.
I did mine and my mrs's, no problems. I look after mine but hers floats around in her filthy handbag with keys, coins and other shit bouncing off it all day - no problem.
Here's the official site, http://www.bodyguardz.com I just followed the videos on there and installed it no problem.
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Posted 09:47pm 20/7/09
http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/slider-case-cl59031
Posted 10:30pm 20/7/09
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Posted 08:11am 21/7/09
not sure about that because mines covered with fingerprints.
looks a winner but they only ship to US addresses.
edit: can buy the case off the apple store site :)
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Posted 08:29am 21/7/09
Clicky
(exactly that one)
Posted 09:20am 21/7/09
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Posted 07:16pm 21/7/09
SwitchEasy RebelSerpent 3G iPhone Case
edit: thanks for that site rev. the cases are $10 cheaper from them.
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Posted 10:17pm 21/7/09
PCGear hit you with more expensive shipping though. However, I think it still works out cheaper by a few dollars. I'm not sure though, you'll have to work it out. I bought mine from ebay this morning with a free gift :) - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370221735545
Posted 12:03am 22/7/09
Posted 07:39am 22/7/09
Just buy insurance, and use it like the tool that it is
I am sure if you bought a nice looking car you wouldn't stick bumper panels on the whole car incase you hit someone parking - you would probably just claim on your insurance if it was bad enough to annoy you
Posted 08:19am 22/7/09