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Post by Dan @ 03:47pm 15/07/08 | 55 Comments
As those keeping an eye on our E3 Videos Page will have already noticed, Bethesda have released their E3 2008 trailer for the hotly anticipated Fallout 3. The 3 minute clip shows off more of the Fallout staple retro style and the first real in-game action.

Also, AusGamers intrepid E3 2008 reporters trog and steve capped the actual Fallout 3 gameplay demonstration from today's Xbox Media Briefing which you can now see for yourself right here in our video library.












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Midda
Posted 03:51pm 15/7/08
I'm fairly disappointed after watching the trailers. Looks like they haven't fired the animators they had on Oblivion, it looks clunky as f***.
Bah
Posted 03:56pm 15/7/08
I thought it looked pretty good.
Spook
Posted 04:00pm 15/7/08
ill balance out the two posters above and say it looks average:

Crakaveli
Posted 04:53pm 15/7/08
I hope it fails hard because bethesda sucks d*** now.

When the dude who got a speak peak at it said it was pretty much like oblivion but with guns (like it was a good thing or something, lol) i pretty much gave up on it.
Dan
Posted 05:03pm 15/7/08
I'm of two minds. On one hand, I'm all for an oblivion style game with a sci-fi setting. On the other hand, it doesn't really feel very Falloutish. Perhaps they would have been better off calling it Fallout: Something rather than naming it as a direct sequel.

starkebn
Posted 05:19pm 15/7/08
The intro is going for that old Fallout feel but fails hard
Carson
Posted 05:55pm 15/7/08
I'm with Dan on this one. Looks good, and will probably play well. But it's lacking that Fallout feel I got when I played Fallout 1 & 2.

It's not a true sequal unless it invovles Vault 13 in some way. :P
nF
Posted 06:01pm 15/7/08
Appeasing whiny fanboys is what Nintendo does, leave Bethesda to make games the way they like imo.
Midda
Posted 06:25pm 15/7/08
^^ How's that, you mean poorly?
Khel
Posted 06:55pm 15/7/08
I dunno, it felt very Fallout to me, I thought it looked great. And I loved the little tv bit at the start, especially bits like the "Not an actual atomic blast" caption and my skype message at work is now "Dating experiences in Vault may vary".
Midda
Posted 07:00pm 15/7/08
Did you watch the gameplay video, or just the trailer?
groganus
Posted 07:03pm 15/7/08
im still looking forward to this game.
Midda
Posted 07:09pm 15/7/08
I guess I'm still looking forward to it, but definitely not as much as I was before. It still looked like Fallout, but Bethesda always seem to make their games look so... gamey... if that makes sense. The screenshots look great, and it looks pretty good when cut together in a pretty trailer, but when I saw the actual gameplay footage today, I was really let down. Bethesda just have no clue how to make a game look nice in motion.

I haven't really got anything negative to say on the gameplay, apart from the first-person shooting looking kind of clumsy, because they didn't show much. But it doesn't seem like they've really learned anything from Oblivion in terms of how a game should look in motion. If anyone here thinks Oblivion had good animation/physics/AI behaviour, you're delusional.
nF
Posted 07:10pm 15/7/08
^^ How's that, you mean poorly?


why should they listen to fanboys? they have some rosey eyed idea of what the original game was like and get upset whenever they deviate slightly from that rosey image with the sequels/remakes. like you just did.
Midda
Posted 07:12pm 15/7/08
What? I haven't said anything about the gameplay, all I've mentioned is the animation and movement. You don't have to be a bloody fanboy to want a game to look nice.
groganus
Posted 07:14pm 15/7/08
I haven't really got anything negative to say on the gameplay, apart from the first-person shooting looking kind of clumsy, because they didn't show much. But it doesn't seem like they've really learned anything from Oblivion in terms of how a game should look in motion. If anyone here thinks Oblivion had good animation/physics/AI behaviour, you're delusional.


i honestly cant say i care for first person view, i knew from day dot id play from 3rd person.
ravn0s
Posted 07:28pm 15/7/08
i think it looks great, and i never played the original games.
Khel
Posted 08:30pm 15/7/08
Did you watch the gameplay video, or just the trailer


I watched both. I'll admit, the animations and physics do have that same floaty feel to them as oblivion, though, I still think they're far far better than oblivion. I guess it doesn't bother me as much, It was never a deal breaker for me in Oblivion either. I mean, I recognise it had some horrible animations in it, but it wasn't enough to really affect my enjoyment of the game. Same as Mass Effect, the combat in that was at times pretty s***, and some of the animations seemed a bit stiff at times, but it didn't hamper my enjoyment of the game at all, so I'm sure I'll still love Fallout 3 :)

When I heard mini nuclear bomb catapault, I was sold.
Midda
Posted 08:59pm 15/7/08
Yeah, I'm sure I'll still enjoy the game, but being an animator, that stuff will more than likely be a bit more distracting to me. Though I'm glad it's not just me, pretty much everyone I've talked to today have said the exact same things I have.

last edited by Midda at 20:59:13 15/Jul/08
d^
Posted 09:01pm 15/7/08
Looks alright but I doubt it will be anywhere near as good as Fallout 2
Tollaz0r!
Posted 09:19pm 15/7/08

why should they listen to fanboys?


Fallout fanboys are rabid, they bite. I'm one of them.


I'm scared this Fallout will have scaling enemies like Oblivion, that really s*** me off and ultimately killed Oblivion for me. What's the point of getting mega tough when simple rats scale with you. Also, what is the point of being weak as when there is barley anyone tougher then you.. So in that system, leveling seems like a futile pointless exercise.

When I saw Fallout 3: Van Buren I cried a little knowing what fallout 3 could have been.

It better be good, now to cry as I watch the Gameplay footage.
Midda
Posted 09:23pm 15/7/08
It's not THAT bad... Still looks like Fallout to me.
Bah
Posted 09:39pm 15/7/08
If the game is like oblivion though, someone will make a mod which fixes the scaling.. although that doesn't really fix it as for most people they'll have already finished it by the time it comes out.
sif greazy
Posted 10:38pm 15/7/08
I wish they'd just stuck with the birds-eye-view-turn-based-rpg.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 12:09am 16/7/08
One of the things that made the old fallout's good was that it was very much a sit back and play game. You could do stuff and think about it, where as this game seems more like you twitching your way through, no where near as laid back.

It's not an RPG if you have to strafe.


nF
Posted 12:34am 16/7/08
cry more.

you fanboys played fallout 2 even though the graphics looked like s***, why gripe about the graphics in fallout 3.

if you want to play fallout 2 just play fallout 2.
Crakaveli
Posted 12:39am 16/7/08
it's got nothing to do with the f*****g graphics, yes its post-apocalyptic but it doesn't feel like fallout.. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
nF
Posted 08:21am 16/7/08
you've seen a trailer knob shiner. how the f*** can you know how it feels?
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:49am 16/7/08
Yes it was only a trailer, however there was running, gunning and strafing. Twitch gameplay in a game that was never about twitch, that is what he is saying doesn't feel like Fallout, if you don't get it now you won't understand.
Viper119
Posted 08:52am 16/7/08
i just watched it and i think it looks petty sweet, i played both fallouts. It still feels like fallout. I suspect the ultra fanboys dont think it feels like fallout because its not top down 2d graphics... basically what you guys want is fallout 2.. so why don't you just go play that? enjoy it for what it is.
paveway
Posted 09:00am 16/7/08
you just won't understand nf
Khel
Posted 09:38am 16/7/08
Twitch gameplay in a game that was never about twitch


It didn't look like twitch gameplay to me at all, it looked like a lot of pausing the action, choosing your target and your location on the target you want to shoot, then watching as your action plays out. Not really twitched based FPS gameplay, much more in the style of how Fallout combat worked imo.
demon
Posted 09:50am 16/7/08
looks ok to me... it won't bother me if it's like oblivion coz i really liked oblivion... never got into fallout before as it looked like s***. :D
Sip@d0r
Posted 11:34am 16/7/08
If you can stand the first 10mins and start getting into the story, you won't even notice the graphics anymore. Really that's what bothers the fanboys, its the fact all this fiddly fps s*** trying to stop & start real time combat, having an over the shoulder view and graphic is more important then gameplay or story. Being a fps, people will get sick of the tactical side of fallout and just turn it into a CS facerapefest. GG.
Saint
Posted 11:48am 16/7/08
When I heard mini nuclear bomb catapault, I was sold.
Khel doesn't like nukes in games, so this could be trouble.
casa
Posted 11:49am 16/7/08
no nukes!
Midda
Posted 11:51am 16/7/08
I'm pretty sure that you don't have to play it in first person view if you don't want to, do you? Isn't there a 3rd person option?
nF
Posted 01:10pm 16/7/08
twitch based gameplay haha.

unless you have some sort of motor neuron disease (like a genetic based one) i think you'll be able to play the game.

the only thing i don't understand is why fanboys who have been waiting 10 years for another fallout game are suddenly hanging s*** on one they've only seen 90 seconds of. why? because in 10 years the game suddenly discovered a 3rd dimension.

cry more f***.
sif greazy
Posted 01:44pm 16/7/08
Forum hero to the rescue! nF people are not complaining that it's 3D, they're complaining that it's FPS-RPG bulls***.

I'm not a fanboy, I suck at RPG's and haven't ever finished an RPG in my life, yet I still think that going FPS is the wrong idea.

Maybe the reason that it's getting a lot of s*** for being FPS is because it's a fallout game? I think I agree with Dan when he said they shouldn't have made it a direct sequel.

We have too many FPS RPG's anyway.
Carson
Posted 06:10pm 16/7/08
What it really needed was turn based combat. That was one thing that I loved about the Fallout series.
nF
Posted 06:21pm 16/7/08
Forum hero to the rescue! nF people are not complaining that it's 3D, they're complaining that it's FPS-RPG bulls***.


thats what i was implying.

BassMan
Posted 06:37pm 16/7/08
I'll play & enjoy it.

I don't like the idea of scaling enemies someone earlier in the thread mentioned? The whole slog of getting powerarmour in the originals was made so sweet when you could then single-handly take on armies using powder weapons.
FraktuRe
Posted 06:37pm 16/7/08
What it really needed was turn based combat. That was one thing that I loved about the Fallout series.


It has that you f*****g imbecile.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 08:03pm 16/7/08

unless you have some sort of motor neuron disease (like a genetic based one) i think you'll be able to play the game.


Fallout 1/2 could almost be played entirely by the mouse, very laid back, even the combat. That was part of Fallout's charm, this Fallout requires a more active approach (the twitch aspect) and that, I believe, is what people are fearing.
nF
Posted 10:51pm 16/7/08
so you need to use both hands? what a crisis.

also i wouldn't exactly call playing an FPS active, so you don't need to worry about working up a sweat if that's what you are fearing. (lol fearing)
ravn0s
Posted 11:13pm 16/7/08
geez sounds like some of you are complaining about having to actually play the game.
Tollaz0r!
Posted 12:03am 17/7/08
So you have nothing worth saying then nf?
Midda
Posted 10:11am 17/7/08
I don't even know what's going on in this thread anymore.
MrWolf
Posted 11:19am 17/7/08
I don't recall anyone mentioning this yet, but the turn based side of things is more like bullet-time in other games whereby you earn APs as you go along and can shose to use them during combat, but it's not ALL turn-based.

I'd personally prefer the 3/4 isometric look of the fallout 3 someone linked from wikipedia, because as mentioned it was a more laid back enjoyable way to play, but I'll still play this new one through (assuming it's better than STALKER).

And I agree that if they do the scaling enemies it will be gay, I too found great joy in finally geting power-armour and being able to obliterate a force of well armed raiders using only the Pancor Jackhamer and Powered-gauntlets.
nF
Posted 11:33am 17/7/08
So you have nothing worth saying then nf?


not hearing a lot of rational talk from you fallout fanboys.

And I agree that if they do the scaling enemies it will be gay, I too found great joy in finally geting power-armour and being able to obliterate a force of well armed raiders using only the Pancor Jackhamer and Powered-gauntlets.


so not only to fallout fanboys hate fast paced games they also dislike ones with any difficulty.
JakeG
Posted 12:23pm 17/7/08
lol i installed fallout 2 last night and am giving it another go :> love it.
ccl
Posted 12:44pm 17/7/08
I bought the Fallout Collection (1, 2 and tactics) for $14 from EB the other day! So happy!!

It was returned the next day.
MrWolf
Posted 01:30pm 17/7/08
nF you clearly have no interest in this game or the franchise as a whole so why keep trolling?

There's still plenty of difficulty in the game, it just means that at lvl15 you're not gonna get pwnt by rats or gecko's. There's still gonna be mini-cannon totting super-mutants but it also means that you have NO chance against them at level 1, but as you progress you'll see positive use for your levels/exp.
icewyrm
Posted 01:35pm 17/7/08
so not only to fallout fanboys hate fast paced games they also dislike ones with any difficulty.


It's being developed for xbox360, it'll be easy as piss.
nF
Posted 04:43pm 17/7/08
nF you clearly have no interest in this game or the franchise as a whole so why keep trolling?


Clearly you haven't read the thread because I'm the one defending the game from fanboys who are attacking it with stupid fanboy comments.

Fanboys like yourself are having a teary because its an fps-rpg. Now i don't see how making the player MORE involved in the gameplay than just clicking once can some how take away from the atmosphere of the game. Surely being more involved would add to the immersion. The only reason the original game was isometric was because thats all you could do back then. You couldn't have 30 characters on screen in a 3d game back then. You couldn't have massive open environments in 3d back then.

So what, 10 years later, technology has moved on. The game has moved on, yet the fanboys haven't.
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