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Post by trog @ 02:16pm 29/04/08 | 111 Comments
Even if you have been living under a rock, you're undoubtedly aware that today is the day that Grand Theft Auto 4 - the long awaited next generation version of one of the most popular (and controversial) gaming brands ever - is released. This has the potential to be a fairly pivotal event not just for the GTA series, but also for the next generation consoles as a whole - it could be the "killer app" that many people have been waiting for to upgrade, so no doubt Sony and Microsoft are looking out for some increased sales.
While normally we'd encourage people to be discriminating gamers and kick back, read some reviews, and generally restrain themselves from charging head-first into their closest game retailer, this is admittedly a bit of an ask. Further, chances are good that doing this will only make your life difficult as the game flies off the shelves and Xbox 360s and PlayStation 3s become rare. We'll have our thoughts on the game in review form up soon! Tags: grand theft auto 
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Also, I'm borrowing my sisters 360. So I get out of having to a buy a 360.. at least for the time being.
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its the same in the uncensored version.
the only differences i can tell (and i have both versions) is when you sleep with hookers, the uncensored versions shows the hookers mounting you in the car and you can watch the whole thing (even though its pretty uneventful) in the aussie/nz version its from behind the car focusing on the number plate.
other then that they are identical.
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/stab-attack-at-grand-theft-auto-launch/2008/04/30/1209234894535.html
didnt take lomng lol
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Posted 10:51am 30/4/08
How fucken cool are the radio stations this time round. The electro station has got well known tunes all through it so far.
One thing bothering me a bit (maybe its the cars I have been in) you cant do sweet as brake turns like in the other games.
Posted 11:12am 30/4/08
I'm still trying out all the camera views to find the best for driving, I was using the hood view for a while, but since it has less peripheral vision I switched it off after flying around a corner into a cop car that I couldn't see. The depth of field in the hood top view is a bit extreme as well and makes it harder to judge distance and speed.
Overall it seems like more of the same from the previous versions, only more refined and polished. Though the on foot camera can be annoying when navigating around obstacles or inside buildings.
Also I can't understand a fucking word Spoiler:
little jacob says, but I think that's the point. Actually in general I find there to be a bit too much background noise sometimes, every time there's a cutscene or you're talking to people on the phone there's always music going in the background and the accents on all the characters don't help you understand them, damn foreigners.
I'm still pretty early into it though, maybe 3-4 hours last night is all I've played up to Spoiler:
the last mission I did was where you choose to let the guy fall off the crane or rescue him.
Posted 11:28am 30/4/08
Yeah, I found it a bit clunky at first cos I was just mashing punch and kick and trying to punch and kick my way out of a fight like in previous GTAs. But then I found out about the dodging and the counter-attacks, and now I just do that shit and its pretty cool :) As your opponent attacks you, you hit A to dodge out of the way, and then B or Y to do a counter-attack which makes Niko beat the living snot out of the guy, much more satisfying.
Posted 11:48am 30/4/08
Personally, I'd recommend this game to everyone, but IMHO it was way too over hyped.
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What about everyone else?
Posted 12:35pm 30/4/08
gta iv multiplayer down for ps3 players
Posted 04:21pm 30/4/08
- the combat was very clunky at first but when you work out that your not supposed to mash buttons, its awesome.
- the cars handle really akwardly but thats a good thing because you shouldn't be able to do a perfect handbrake around a corner at 100mph. even better is when your going flat knackers down a road and you slam on the handbrakes and just go out of control and smash into stuff. FUN!
- a lot of little things which are just great. actualy using your gun/knife to threaten people as you pull them out of a car. or in 1 instance i actualy stabbed the guy twice and then dragged him out and he flopped on the ground bleeding. Also when you crash, you can actualy be shot out of your front windshield which is just fucking brilliant! I had a banshee going full blast down the tollbooth highway and saw a car already in the way. I thought, nah i can squeeze past and keep going. half my car smashed into the gate and i went flying out over the car beside me and into the next lane where i got run over and killed.
best $94 ive spent in a long time. will have plenty of fun with this.
Posted 05:16pm 30/4/08
i found the combat was more reactive on the ps3 version then i did on my 360 version. which is funny cause the ps3 controller sucks.
i also found i drive better with the ps3 controller, i think its because the way i hold the contoller with the my thumbs directly over the thumb sticks, where as on the xbox360 im more ( i guess you could say relaxed ) with how i hold it and my thumbs are on the edge of the thumb sticks.
everythign else about the ps3 controller sucks though (also dont even fuckign bother with sixaxis for those with a ps3)
the draw distance is better on the ps3, however the graphics are a little more jaggy (not enough for a 360 fanboy to get all excited over though)
they both have frame rate drops and they both have magical appearing items
however the xbox360 from time to time takes a few seconds loger to load textures in a cutscene (so rare its barely worth mentioning)
other then that the game kicks ass (just wait till you get to the heist mission people, brillant)
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I am getting my copy this weekend from big w. hope they don't sell out :-\
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:(
i foolishly expected better from them
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I then tried reformatting the PS3 and fresh installing it, but it froze halfway through the installation.
After googling the error code, it seems that this is the xbox equivalent of the red ring of death. There are quite a few posts on major forums about people's PS3 getting screwed from GTA4, so yeah.. just a heads up.
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i was on a mission and it just froze.. left it there for 5 mins came back and still no response.. couldnt press the xbox guide botton or anything.
restarted xbox and each time it loaded the gta game it would get to the screen just before the splash screen.. like just where it says rockstar games etc and froze there.
opened cd case and had a look at the disk.. it has a perfectly round scratch covering the whole diameter of the disk.. its perfectly symetrical. its not asif i dropped or scratched it so i think my xbox done this.
So basically im in a bit of a pickle.. cause my game dosent work.. and im not sure if there is a fault with my xbox. i don't want to try putting any other games in there incase the same thing occurs.
what should i do?
Posted 01:53pm 03/5/08
fun times.
so that may have been the problem. my sister works at a video store so hopefully she has a disk buffer.
an expensive lesson for me but oh well.
let that be a lesson to you guys with xbox 360's! don't move the console whilst it is switched on with a game in there..
Posted 02:06pm 03/5/08
I had a friend who had the same thing happen to his copy of Halo 3, and he got the dvd drive replaced in his xbox under warranty, and a new copy of Halo 3.
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Posted 02:49pm 03/5/08
after research on my problem.. with the ps3 there is a bug.
to resolve you have to delete the save game and start from scratch and this should fix?
pretty sure this is mentioned earlier in thread but no harm in repeating :)
Posted 03:21pm 03/5/08
EDIT: Found a fix for others who are having trouble. Disable the consoles internet connection at the start of the game to get through the first scenes.
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Gamealmighty: 9.8/10
IGN: 10/10
Gamedaily: 10/10
Gamearena: 10/10
Gamespot: 10/10
Gamespy: 5/5
1up: A+
Gamestats: 9.5/10 (GPM of 99.9)
Also, Gamershell seem to know that GTA IV is coming out for PC in late June. If that's true I'm a very, very happy person.
Posted 08:15pm 03/5/08
Though it would be great cause Im over aiming with a faggot two handed dildo machine already.
Posted 08:42pm 03/5/08
PS3 version sits at 99.5%.
It's fair to say this game has finally taken the #1 VG title of all time from LoZ:OoT after 10 years
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Be interesting to find out if the online integration of the mobile phone is also the thing causing problems for 360 owners experiencing freezing issues... Hopefully R* get this sorted out soon, or even better just release the PC version! I, too, cannot wait to be rid of this retarded "control" device.
Also, does anyone else notice striking similarities between Brucie and FPS Doug from PP?
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I'm very impressed with the level of detail for everything, from the very biggest, to the very smallest. I like the very GPS voice that some cars have, often they say turn left/right to late. But I guess GPS wasn't designed for a car hurtling around the city taking corners at 90.
The taxi system gets rid of the sometimes tedious getting from point A to B, although the driving and variety of cars makes the trek quite fun. Finding little places like the Spoiler:
Drift Track is great. :D
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p.s. how to do spoiler stylez?
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i was driving around in a gps enabled car and it was a female voice, you would hear "ding dong turn right now" anyway randomly the voice actually said "PING PONG! TURN RIGHT NOW!()#@$" (all excited like) i lol'd at how random it was.
Posted 12:54pm 04/5/08
Also, one thing that kinda annoys me, is theres no way to make a private game with just people you want to invite. You can form a party of the people you want to play with, and when you start a game you all end up in the same game, but its still a public game and it fills the rest of the open slots with randoms.
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agreed, the multiplayer aspect wasnt very well thought out, it seems like they have gone for ease of use over practicality.
i played cops and crooks today and it was major fun, except my team mates just fucked around and i appeared to be the only one chasing down the crooks.
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but anyhooo, really enjoying this game. it is surprisingly good. almost everything is perfectly executed. characters are _amazing_, especially niko. this game has certainly raised the bar again for story telling. i actually think that this is what will stand out from this generation of games more than anything else: story telling. Mass Effect, CoD4, GTAIV. its all story.
haven't had much joy with online yet though. the matchmaking seems to be really fucked. it always seems to put me with yanks and i know there are billions of aussies out there. plus i'm getting drop outs.
also khel:
yes you can. start up a party mode and invite your friends in. this area acts as a lobby of sorts where you can just screw around until the host pulls up the phone and then joins another game type. it will bring everyone in that room along with you.
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You can chuck the car, steer away from the corner then over steer into it and pretty much drift through. Handbrake = death in this, gotta learn that early or you will suck for a long time. But yeah, drive like you do in real life... brake into the corner, no brake during the corner then accelerate after the apex and you move through smooth. Brake during the turn and you'll just keep going straight ahead, accelerate through the corner and half the time you'll under steer.
The other skill in driving is to manually move your camera as you make the turn. So as you turn with the left stick, you gotta pull the camera around with it so you don't lose vision. Soon as you get that figured out, it makes it ALOT easier to see.
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been playing the 360 version since friday and it's been working well except for 1 freeze
also wtf @ delete your save game to fix an issue, wouldn't it just pop back up next time you save?
and how are you supposed to finish if thats the 'fix'
Posted 04:36pm 06/5/08
Did anyone switch to the classic mode of in-car control? Even though burnout and a few others used the triggers for accelerate I couldn't get used to it in this game.
edit: also anyone with gta4 and ps3 add me - ctd_au
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jokes on you. took it to my sisters work at a video store and she buffed the disk and it works flawlessly now.
makes me feel so good now that i dont have to buy another copy :)
Posted 06:51pm 06/5/08
GTA San Andreas seemed to have a larger world. I really miss planes. The car modding was fun, silly as it was. Buying Business' and homes. Just the little bits like that.
It seems that, apart from better graphics and physics, GTA IV has taken a step back from previous games. A small step, enough to make me miss those parts of GTA San Andreas that were just fun.
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i pre-orderd the SE version from jb-hifi, then they told me that they didnt order enough pre-orders so ill have to wait for backorder. i told them to get fucked and got a pre-order from game traders for $30 less.
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How much was Game Traders selling it for? Because JB had it for $85 when I got it, but I got it for even less because I got them to comp Big W.
Posted 08:47pm 06/5/08
it was teh Special Edition version, it was $150 from jb-hifi and $120 at gametraders
Posted 09:04pm 06/5/08
Dunno if they all have D.E's, just did the one in china town on the middle island. alonquin or whatever
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Posted 08:39am 07/5/08
its rad burning around as the cops. i can really see how ABP is going to rock pretty hard.
Posted 09:32am 07/5/08
Also, got my head around the multiplayer a little bit more now. It seems party mode is kinda like a "clan vs clan" mode. You make your little party, then you start a game of say Team DM, and your whole party gets put on 1 team, and then you get matched with another party of the same size who form the other team.
If you want to just have a normal private game, you don't start party mode, you just start a normal game, and then you can set the private slots like Wetwired said, and just invite all your friends into the game, and set yourselves on whatever teams you want.
Played some Team DM last night with the weapon set to Rocket Launchers only, that was pretty mad, chaotic fun :P
Posted 09:48am 07/5/08
the multiplayer is good but the only way to play aussies i have found so far is to invite people off your friends list. did you have any luck matching up your party with another party of aussies khel ?
also i don't understand why people want to turn the locking on system off. the game isn't about twitch shooting, its more about knowing the maps, getting a good car, good weapon, and good position. turning off the lock on takes away a fair bit of the strategy imo.
Posted 09:49am 07/5/08
Shame I'm so aweful at driving, I must of rolled the cop car at least a dozen times. Tho flipping it off the overpass, landing it and driving off was a good effort :P
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It really is the game's biggest failing imo. Multiplayer has such awesome potential but there's just this frustrating element that doesn't need to be there.
Despite the waiting, the retardedness of having to load singleplayer first to get to multi and the difficulty of playing against people that aren't lagged. It's still stupid amounts of fun and very "just one more game"ish.
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xbox = poor lighting/contrast (to be fair I was playing it on a projector so I don't know if that had any effect on the contrast for 360, both were plugged in via hdmi)
ps3 = 6axis controller wins at helicopter 10 fold, contrast is way better - you can actually see shit at night
the ps3 controls just shit all over the 360 controller
only con for the ps3 was the fact that it took about half an hour to get the game going (update + install)
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if only there was a way to use the 360 controller on the ps3.............
Posted 05:37pm 07/5/08
have y'all used the 6axis with the helicopter yet? much nicer than the joystick setup
Posted 05:57pm 07/5/08
Also worth noting that the whole time I was playing mariokart wii with the motion wheel, I was wishing I had a dual analogue control in my hand instead.
Posted 06:03pm 07/5/08
also:
360 = Left thumb rests on the left thumbstick. Right thumb rests on action buttons.
ps3, ps2 = left thumb rests on the D-Pad, right thumb rests on action buttons.
Posted 10:28pm 07/5/08
Playing it on a projector would make a huge difference in contrast.
Also, the PS3 controller is just as bad as the PS2 one. The only thing I can't personally comment on is the SIXAXIS controls for the helicopter, but you're the first person I've heard from who hasn't called it a gimmick and gone back to controlling the helicopter with a joystick.
Posted 11:12pm 07/5/08
as for contrast, the ps3 looks fine on the projector but the 360 was too dark - just not sure if that would be the same on a regular old tv
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