natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7397 posts
Have you guys got a mobile site up and running yet?
m.slawed.net/agn is borked again because of something on the qgl site
as i cant even lynx to http://qgl.ausforums.com/index.php/439207
You guys may not miss me during the working day, but I miss you and the full agn site is dongs on a mobile
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skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4388 posts
Lots of little things act up on my android, like the cursor is hard to put in the textbox, if you zoom in on the text box often it sits at the bottom right hand corner of the text box, while you're typing somewhere out of the screen in the top left.
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Linker
Brisbane, Queensland
1475 posts
the annoying 'try the new skin' thing is also shitty on mobile browsers and constantly gets in the way...
trog has a long to do list though. need to hire a web guy methinks.
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20023 posts
yeah sort this shit out already
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34443 posts
will check it out monday!
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7400 posts
and if trog gets it working then me & HeardY can stop pestering 3x0
Well it's mainly me, but I can always count on HeardY to chime in with something helpful too.
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IVY_MiKe
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
474 posts
uhh, it works a treat on iPhone, if you're gonna setup a mobile site, please don't force it for all mobile devices!!
Logitechshop.com.au is largely unusable on a mobile device :/
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skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4391 posts
uhh, it works a treat on iPhone, if you're gonna setup a mobile site, please don't force it for all mobile devices!!
Logitechshop.com.au is largely unusable on a mobile device :/
Is that because you don't have flash?
Edit: Nope, Just is really boring. Pressing the right arrow next to products results in products in a simple form..
It looks like it's designed for the nokia 6110.
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and can you fix the 1000+ posts per page for anonymous users...
surely the default should be 20 or something more sensible
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Mosfxx
Gold Coast, Queensland
588 posts
I have no issues on my Desire
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andrewus
Brisbane, Queensland
2514 posts
and can you fix the 1000+ posts per page for anonymous users...
surely the default should be 20 or something more sensible
I tend to agree. Does give me the shits at times.
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7410 posts
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34639 posts
Augh! Will look tomorrow, added to my TODO
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20074 posts
schweet, if you can't got a mobile version out there at least fix the feed for slawed :)
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34643 posts
reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
5263 posts
short term, as in forever? :P
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scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
14830 posts
rather than set a goofy large font try
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1.0; maximum-scale=1.0;" />
of course the headers and shit will look like rubbish.
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reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
5264 posts
From my HTC Desire. :(
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reso
I can't read
Brisbane, Queensland
5265 posts
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34644 posts
scuzzy, that's done with your settings, hows that
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m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1351 posts
lol, it is HUGE on my mini pro. Half that size would be great for me, and the qlg themed skin gone would be great.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34645 posts
lol, it is HUGE on my mini pro. Half that size would be great for me, and the qlg themed skin gone would be great. is it still huge now?
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scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
14831 posts
if you use the meta tag you don't need to compensate with huge fonts.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34648 posts
if you use the meta tag you don't need to compensate with huge fonts. yeh, I took the huge fonts out & added the meta tag you suggested in. so I dunno if m3nt4l's is still bunk, or if he saw it before I made that change
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scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
14832 posts
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34650 posts
the only thing I can easily change atm is the body stuff in the page - the thread listing & thread display stuff. So if you have any specific ideas I'm happy to throw them in - that meta tag looks much better, ta!
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For the mobile site link you gave Trog.
Please get rid of the big QGL icon and the "Next Event: Unknown | Forum Rules | QGL Website | Event Registration"
Just need the forum treeview, the "Forum | Guidelines | Search | Moderators | Online Users | Profile Manager | Logout | Messages"
and then what you have for the forum layout is perfect.
and get rid of as much of the bottom footer (except for the page count) as you legally can plz.
for example all the
"Plain Post, not many replies
This thread has 50 or more replies This post is new since your last visit
This thread has 50 or more replies,
and is new since your last visit Thread is locked.
Thread is 'sticky' (always at top of list)"
and the
"Advertise with Us | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
© Copyright 2001-2011 AusGamers Pty Ltd. ACN 093 772 242.
Internet services are kindly provided by Soul "
that would rock. ty
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m3nt4l
Brisbane, Queensland
1354 posts
Yeah saw it before the change, looks good now
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34652 posts
gamer, see the post above yours, obviously I know that stuff looks dumb, but i can't change it easily atm. Once time permits I will, but for now just interested in feedback re: the "main" parts cuz that's all I can change easily
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7411 posts
Forum root looks ok
Popup about not using qgl is annoying
Better than native agn
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34655 posts
Forum root looks ok
Popup about not using qgl is annoying
Better than native agn I'll turn that off on mobile site; I've been meaning to increase the nag time period as well so I'll make that change too
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gamer, see the post above yours, obviously I know that stuff looks dumb, but i can't change it easily atm. Once time permits I will, but for now just interested in feedback re: the "main" parts cuz that's all I can change easily
Ok sorry I didn't really understand what you could and couldn't change.
Can we disable sickies from being 'stuck' on the mobile site?
I don't care who made the thread either - perhaps others can give their opinion on this? I think the thread title is the only important part along with the replies (to see how active a topic is).
Following on from this I would rather the icon that shows if a new post has been added since my last visit then a name of the thread creator.
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Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
10767 posts
Post author is important, for example I usually don't bother to open a gamer thread.
I wouldn't bother spending time un-sticking stickies.
New post icon is good.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34656 posts
I was torn on post author as well; in the end decided it was important Ok sorry I didn't really understand what you could and couldn't change. Some stuff I can change with point and click, others I have to change code.
I have a better idea of what is what now (from when I first haxed in what I called "pdaMode" about a billion years ago - I think it was in response to another natslovR thread about him wanting to be able to use his shitty Windows Mobile device to read the forums, actually :) ; I might spend more time on it over the w/e
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7412 posts
hahah I think you are correct, i can remember badgering about pdamode for my windows mobile
Looks like it was only four years ago last month, Aug 2007: Phone/PDA browsers represent here
Thank god for Apple and the wonders of the iPhone hey?
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Eorl
Gold Coast, Queensland
3178 posts
I'd say just invest your time in an actual mobile site Trog, instead of trying to meld the current version when it clearly needs to be overhauled.
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7414 posts
Used the site on the way home tonight. Works well. Thanks trog.
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Crusher
Newcastle, New South Wales
918 posts
Clearly this outlines the need to move to vbulletin
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 Could check this out, we use it for a lot of client sites, is cheap and easy and produces a good result.
http://mobify.com/
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34672 posts
I'd say just invest your time in an actual mobile site Trog, instead of trying to meld the current version when it clearly needs to be overhauled. tis on the todo, but it's wayyyyyyy more effort
I've just made a few more changes & fixed some more bugs; I'll try and get it updated on Monday as a stopgap.
scuzzy - any tips on ways to preview what a mobile version of a site will look like in Firefox? Can't find anything obvious that'll do it
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skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4471 posts
I think it looks good now..
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20079 posts
It does look good, except the advertising is stupidly large on a mobile device, but it's better then nothing I guess.
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Crusher
Newcastle, New South Wales
928 posts
Heardy how else is Term to pay for his gold plated AGN lear jet without ads the size of south america????
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7417 posts
bigger page numbers would be nice. i keep clicking on reply instead of page 1 2 3 >
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Keato
Melbourne, Victoria
404 posts
Ausgamers, sort your shit out.
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trog
Brisbane, Queensland
4235 posts
updated stuff again; removed the big header and footer
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hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9454 posts
using opera mobile on a nokia here
front page is tops now trog, really good.
viewing the threads is a different story. if you scroll across, the text width is perfect - you just can't see who's post it is though, without scrolling back.
nope, you've fixed that too.
tis now excellent. much thanks trog, this is the first time i've been ever properly able to view qgl on a nokia or blackberry.
last edited by hardware at 12:06:51 28/Sep/11
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34699 posts
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20092 posts
yep looks loads better...
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kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1005 posts
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34712 posts
On the topic of mobile websites.. is there any way to force my browser (safari on iPhone) to go to the full version of a website instead of the mobile version?
Say I want to go to www.barnyardbitches.com and it redirects me to m.barnyardbitches.com, can I force it to display the proper www.barnyardbitches.com? probably not without disabling cookies or browser user-agent or something - most (good) websites have a "return me to full site" link somewhere on the mobile site so you can always get to it, but there's a bunch that don't.
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Dan
Special Text
Brisbane, Queensland
12233 posts
On the topic of mobile websites.. is there any way to force my browser (safari on iPhone) to go to the full version of a website instead of the mobile version? That would require user-agent trickery which isn't possible in Safari on iPhone without using Jailbreak mods. There might be a way to do it natively with Opera though, so maybe check that out.
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euphoria
Gold Coast, Queensland
1990 posts
Some sites aren't using user-agent any more - better practice is to query what the browser can do rather than get it to identify who it is. Reason for this is the speed of new browser versions being released - too much overhead to keep updating code to correctly identify them all.
Nice work on the mobile qgl site - is there an equivalent for ausgamers forums?
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34714 posts
Some sites aren't using user-agent any more - better practice is to query what the browser can do rather than get it to identify who it is. Reason for this is the speed of new browser versions being released - too much overhead to keep updating code to correctly identify them all.
Nice work on the mobile qgl site - is there an equivalent for ausgamers forums? it's on the TODO :) It was just a quick hack off stuff that was 95% there already, but now I have a bit more of an idea on how to do it (i.e., ask scuzzy and make him do it all), hopefully I can smash something out
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20098 posts
The only other minor gripe, if you hit the new mobile site and login, the login script redirects to the standard forum index rather then mobile one.
Hopefully this posts from my phone.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
34736 posts
The only other minor gripe, if you hit the new mobile site and login, the login script redirects to the standard forum index rather then mobile one.
Hopefully this posts from my phone. yeh there's something else that does that too, I'll try and fix that at some point
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Sydney, New South Wales
20099 posts
All good, phone seems to hold login cookie so it's a one off issue.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35166 posts
A few people have pointed out that you can't scale the forum any more thanks to SCUZZY; skythra pointed out a possible cause in another thread and I've got a new fix which basically allows some scaling while hopefully keeping it looking all normal. just testing it now
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kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1056 posts
I just tested it out on my iPhone trog. still unable to zoom in/out
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natslovR
Sydney, New South Wales
7521 posts
Works better now. Scaled all to Phone's window without having to scroll sideways
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kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1057 posts
Works better now. Scaled all to Phone's window without having to scroll sideways
natslovR, that is true for the main forum page, but once I click on a thread I have to scroll sideways still.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35169 posts
I just tested it out on my iPhone trog. still unable to zoom in/out sorry, change hasn't been made yet - coming in the next few mins
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scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
14969 posts
lol old reply scuzzy - any tips on ways to preview what a mobile version of a site will look like in Firefox? Can't find anything obvious that'll do it Hmmm, not sure, we develop the site in such a way that there realy is no different between a mobile page and a simply shrunken browser window. I've got firefox installed on my phone aswell.
There is other cool css shit you can do with different runes for different sized windows. so you can actualy make a single page conform to the screen size it has to render in.
http://webdesignerwall.com/trends/inspiration-fluid-responsive-designlast edited by scuzzy at 12:46:53 28/Nov/11
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35170 posts
OK it's updated. I don't know why but I can't seem to zoom out, but I thought I could on our dev/staging test sites, so I'm not sure what is going on.
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kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1058 posts
OK it's updated. I don't know why but I can't seem to zoom out, but I thought I could on our dev/staging test sites, so I'm not sure what is going on.
Hooray, works for me!
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scuzzy
Brisbane, Queensland
14970 posts
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35173 posts
nice dude ta, will play around as time permits!@#
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BiKESEAT
Brisbane, Queensland
368 posts
Can now zoom in / out again, cheers Trog
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35186 posts
sweet thanks yo. Hopefully Raven shuts up about it now.
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Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6201 posts
Can I plead make a suggestion/request: on the mobile site, inside the post td cells, place a span with a width property.
Reason for this is if you put it on the td, if someone puts in a wide image, it changes the max width for all cells. By adding this span, you're effectively re-setting it for each row/post.
This would help the horizontal scrolling needed currently, and I would hope is pretty easy to add.
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Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6202 posts
Also, hopefully. By the way, I can't edit my prev post on my iPhone :p
But yes, now it's usable.
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35190 posts
Raven, yeh can do - can you give me a suggestion for what to do? I don't really have time to work on it ATM, but if you can give me stuff to copy/paste like the other blokes have I can chuck it in.
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copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
1677 posts
just by a phone that works,
it will mean less work for trog, and shorting his todo list
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Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6203 posts
Depends on how you've templated mobile versus normal...
But I'm a little worried that [td...][span style="max-width: 100%"]...content[/span][/td] might not be adhered to by Safari etc.
Setting 'width=' might cause the post area to be full screen width, instead of the table width (as the user info + content) taking the screen width.
Maybe a better CSS pro can confirm.
Unfortunately I don't have any tools on me to grab and view the mobile source to see how different it is.
Edit: Looking at the sample code, this might be better:
[span class="mobilemax"]...[/span]
/* MEDIUM SCREENS */
@media screen and (max-width: 960px)
{
span.mobilemax {
max-width: 820px;
}
}
/* SMALL SCREENS */
@media screen and (max-width: 480px)
{
span.mobilemax {
max-width: 400px;
}
}
Edit: Also, thanks for fixing the zoom thing.
last edited by Raven at 12:51:15 29/Nov/11
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