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IE 5 goneski - the end of the Box Model hack?
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
2186 posts
Have a look at this:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

It looks like v5 of IE has dropped below 0.1% share now, making it almost unused. Does this mean that we can (finally) drop CSS hacks to support the abortive browser?

I6 is also getting close to 20% - IE7 isn't great but its CSS suppot is much closer to W3C than IE6 and (hahaha) IE5. Lets hope it dies too soon!
04:32pm 13/11/08 Permalink
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trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
25327 posts
pretty sure IE5 hasn't been supported for ages on anything we build
04:34pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
2187 posts
We dropped it for a local Government website rebuild this year, thank god. I was surprised to get them to agree at the time - they have bigarse accessibiliy requirements.

Writing seperate versions of CSS to handle v5 sucked :(
04:35pm 13/11/08 Permalink
mongie
Brisbane, Queensland
5680 posts
Our billing system here at work is a piece of s*** that only supports IE6. F*** IE6. It ruins our whole SOE.
04:49pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Nathan
Brisbane, Queensland
3013 posts
We've been min IE6 for a good two years at least
05:29pm 13/11/08 Permalink
MrHardware
Brisbane, Queensland
3864 posts
yeah I hear ya mongie. IE6 is in our SOE too, its mega lame. I just up it to IE7 for myself, have done for two years, nothing breaks.
05:35pm 13/11/08 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
2697 posts
Most Telstra systems have IE6 and some systems apparently recommend against IE7. IE6 is utter crap. No tabs, no middle click to open said tab, not to mention total lack of respect for STANDARDS.
06:06pm 13/11/08 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
25332 posts
Yeh IE6 will be ditched pretty soon for us as well I think/hope. It's still ~30% of our IE user base on AG, which is around 45% of our browser total (Firefox is now 0.10% behind IE!)
06:15pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
2200 posts
Unfortunately its the abuse of the lack of standards in IE6 that has caused the SOE lock-ins, because the uber-critical software is exploiting a DOM flaw or something that no longer works in IE7.

Sucks :(

Edit:

It's still ~30% of our IE user base on AG, which is around 45% of our browser total (Firefox is now 0.10% behind IE!)

That's similar to the stuff on the W3C site trog, which is about right for tech-sites where users are more open to embrace a third-party browser. Browser stats on a broader level (like the government site I mention above) have FF at something 20-30, with 10% for random browsers and the rest to IE, still about 60%.

Makes it harder to scrap IE6 for a more general-public web application.

I'll dig up the stats in the morning.

last edited by Hogfather at 18:19:19 13/Nov/08
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simul
Brisbane, Queensland
322 posts
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay, this is the best day since IE for mac died. IE6 next, my god that will be a good day.
06:25pm 13/11/08 Permalink
whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
13053 posts
I say create w3c compliant web code and to hell with noobs who run browsers incapable of viewing it.
06:48pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Kimbo
Melbourne, Victoria
348 posts
In other news... Firefox devours internet and eats E in IE.
06:57pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Crizane Tribal
Brisbane, Queensland
2355 posts
At my work, all the HR stuff (so like handling ur pay, leave, stuff like that) is done through an intranet system that only supports IE5 and IE6... WTF?
08:01pm 13/11/08 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
2700 posts
Apparently business like IE6 cause it sucks. You see pre IE7 in big corporations all the time cause everyone built systems based on the IE6 and would cost too much to make it compatible with any other browser.
08:13pm 13/11/08 Permalink
Nitro
Gold Coast, Queensland
1653 posts
I don't know any developers still supporting IE 5...

IE 6 still meals box model hacks and it's gonna be around a few more years. It's still got 26% user share. IIRC, w3c statistics are based on visitors to the w3c website, which are mainly professionals, so they aren't a good barometer.
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