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NSA finishes it's international packet capturer / code breaker
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Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.

But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”
05:18pm 16/03/12 Permalink
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Superform
Netherlands
7295 posts
keeping the world safer.. nice
05:43pm 16/03/12 Permalink
gamer
2336 posts
scary to think they have the ability to track every piece of digital communication for every single person in the US ... or probably the world.
06:42pm 18/03/12 Permalink
andrewus
Brisbane, Queensland
2700 posts
I am a little confused as to if this is top secret clearance why do we know about it ?

Also this technology makes for an ok tv series. proof.
06:44pm 18/03/12 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35914 posts
Time to break out the one time pads then! Or at least I would if I thought there was the slightest chance this was actually a concern and that I needed really secure communications.
According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US.
heh sounds a little on the alarmist side. But what is scary (for Americans, anyway) is the eavesdropping they're apparently doing domestically now:
Binney held his thumb and forefinger close together. “We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state,” he says.
I dunno if I buy the encryption cracking stuff (because it's almost too scary to contemplate), but fuck me the US is just getting scarier and scarier by the day.
06:54pm 18/03/12 Permalink
teq
Brisbane, Queensland
12798 posts
scary to think they have the ability to track every piece of digital communication for every single person in the US ... or probably the world.


lucky for us (and everyone else who uses the internets) all traffic does not pass through a central location.
You can't intercept what doesn't come near you.

also anyone with anything to hide has plenty of options, if you're too stupid to encrypt your plans for world domination you only have yourself to blame.
07:00pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12869 posts
07:01pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Whoop
Brisbane, Queensland
19545 posts
keeping us safe by knowing what the other guy knows before he knows it
08:04pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Eds
Brisbane, Queensland
9909 posts
Has anyone else read Dan Brown's Digital Fortress?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Fortress

Its the frigging plot of the book! :P
08:21pm 18/03/12 Permalink
FaceMan
Brisbane, Queensland
8539 posts
The Government is not your Friend.
08:26pm 18/03/12 Permalink
dranged
Melbourne, Victoria
1983 posts
Well, man in the middle against diffie-hellman has been around for a couple of years at least in the public domain...

Remember back at RSA-56 when those hardware gurus built a box for under $250,000 and cracked it within 24 hours?

scary town, I'd love to read about what they're doing now, rather than in 30 years time. Maybe time will make it sweeter?
08:48pm 18/03/12 Permalink
dranged
Melbourne, Victoria
1984 posts
lucky for us (and everyone else who uses the internets) all traffic does not pass through a central location.


Weeeeell legal intercept just like an RBT is always placed at an appropriate choke point. ie the Narus Insight system installed at AT&T in San Francisco early 2000s. For Cable, Wireless, and DSL networks I can think of exactly where it might reside. The NBN would also be a prime candidate.
09:05pm 18/03/12 Permalink
Obes
Brisbane, Queensland
9613 posts
I didn't read the thread ... but the image makes me think of puppet sex ... fuck yeah!
09:07pm 18/03/12 Permalink
crazymorton
Brisbane, Queensland
2869 posts
you realise that there is a mormon reading these threads as they update?

i for one welcome our mormon overlords.
10:24pm 18/03/12 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
1062 posts


Fuck Yeah!!!
10:44pm 18/03/12 Permalink
E.T.
Queensland
4248 posts
Have none of you guys heard about "Project Echelon" before?

What is going on with this new data centre is nothing new. Everyone one of us has been subjected to this kind of thing since the 1960's. Australia has played a good sized role in this for a long time as well. If you do some research you may find the location of the bases that have been used. The Defence Signals Directorate is our supporting branch for Echelon. Start your search there.

When your done, move on with your lives because there is not a damn thing that can be done about it.
11:13pm 18/03/12 Permalink
kr0wb4r
Brisbane, Queensland
1160 posts
/puts flame hat on.


If you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about?
12:26am 19/03/12 Permalink
Saint
Cainer
Brisbane, Queensland
3156 posts
Has anyone else read Dan Brown's Digital Fortress?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Fortress

Its the frigging plot of the book! :P

I thought the exact same thing when I read the OP heh
07:50am 19/03/12 Permalink
greazy
Brisbane, Queensland
5290 posts
Remember back at RSA-56 when those hardware gurus built a box for under $250,000 and cracked it within 24 hours?
Are you talking about this? http://www.rsa.com/press_release.aspx?id=716 They didn't build a box, they networked 4000 computers from all over the world and just brute hacked the encrypted messaged. The message was "It is time to move to a longer key length".
11:49am 19/03/12 Permalink
$ack
Brisbane, Queensland
1434 posts
They didn't build a box, they networked 4000 computers from all over the world


close...

Armed with an estimated tens of thousands of computers linked over the Internet, more than 4,000 teams, collectively known as the Bovine RC5 Effort, solved the $10,000 56-bit RC5 Challenge
12:10pm 19/03/12 Permalink
Opec
Brisbane, Queensland
7554 posts
Yeah as much as they tried to convince the public that they can cracked higher than 2048 bit key within a reasonable amount of time, I still have a very hard time believing that they (NSA) actually can. Lets face it if you really are the bad guy you'll be paranoid enough to a) use big key crypto b) don't use RSA encryption algorithm c) go all low tech i.e. non-digital.

c) is probably the easiest for the bad dudes but the most difficult thing for the NSA's digital information awareness to break as it basically involves actual human assets and not a lot of digital signals that can be easily intercepted and analyse.

Unless of course they have some sort of back doors to the crypto algorithm or actual working quantum computer to help them along, I doubt they can actually cracked those encrypted emails, messages etc within the window of the message.

Clearly not all interested intercepts will be encrypted at that level because not all the bad guys are that smart.
01:08pm 19/03/12 Permalink
dranged
Melbourne, Victoria
1985 posts
Armed with an estimated tens of thousands of computers linked over the Internet, more than 4,000 teams, collectively known as the Bovine RC5 Effort, solved the $10,000 56-bit RC5 Challenge


closer..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DES_Challenges
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFF_DES_cracker


DES Challenge II-2 was solved in just 56 hours in July 1998 by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) with their purpose-built Deep Crack machine. The prize for the contest was US$10,000 whilst the machine cost US$250,000 to build. The contest demonstrated how quickly a rich corporation or government agency, having built a similar machine, could decrypt ciphertext encrypted with DES. The text was revealed to be "The secret message is: It's time for those 128-, 192-, and 256-bit keys."[2]

DES Challenge III was completed as a joint effort between distributed.net and Deep Crack. The key was found in just 22 hours 15 minutes in January 1999, and the plaintext was See you in Rome (second AES Conference, March 22-23, 1999).[3]

04:05pm 19/03/12 Permalink
trog
AGN Admin
Brisbane, Queensland
35956 posts
03:59pm 23/03/12 Permalink
Crakaveli
USA
6050 posts
Oops! Google Chrome could not find https
04:25pm 23/03/12 Permalink
Pinky
Melbourne, Victoria
12937 posts
If you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about?

Sorta, not quite true.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/01/rubbish-twitter-banter-gets-uk-tourists-kicked-out-of-america/
Oops! Google Chrome could not find https

More like trog shanked in the fuck by his own forum bug, which is always hilarious.
05:20pm 23/03/12 Permalink
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