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Mass
Brisbane, Queensland
1095 posts
12:31pm 09/11/11 Permalink
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12:31pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Twisted
Brisbane, Queensland
11506 posts

LOL....whatever.... as soon as your Apple glass touches the MS glass or Google's piece of glass you'll probably crash the whole world.
01:25pm 09/11/11 Permalink
bepatient
Melbourne, Victoria
689 posts
Wow, that was really cool. Well executed and the music suited it so well.
The coffee cup & newspaper were wicked.
01:42pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Raven
Melbourne, Victoria
6121 posts
That's all nice to try to show off cool things, but how about they deliver on Surface being affordable and widespread first?
02:01pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Clubby
Brisbane, Queensland
686 posts
It's just like the glass one that was posted ages ago ....

02:05pm 09/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6757 posts
John Gruber talked about this recently.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/11/companies_that_publish_concept_videos

Putting this “Future Visions” video in public squanders attention that Microsoft could otherwise have focused on its current and imminent new products — like Windows Phone. Take a new iPhone 4S and a Windows Phone 7.5 device back in time 20 years and they might seem equally impressive to a pair of 1991 eyes. But one of them sold more in a weekend than the other does in an entire financial quarter. Is not Windows Phone scarily similar to the Newton? Innovative design, much to praise — and but striking the market like a wet match?

02:05pm 09/11/11 Permalink
sparrow
Brisbane, Queensland
1628 posts
Someone make sure they keep a copy of this video so we can laugh at it all in 2019, and how we didn't get anywhere close.
02:11pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Drummo
Melbourne, Victoria
143 posts
A few of those look pretty useful, the architectural ones especially. Personally the display on the plane would frustrate me, having to lift my arm out for every simple command / motion, it would be more practical to use a smaller tablet to interact with it, similar to the people sharing / stealing the whiteboard with / from each other near the end.

The one that stood out the most to me was the paper at the end, It's something that I have been wondering about for a long time.

Every morning I walk to work and some clown nearly hits me with the newspapers he's throwing from his car, not to mention half of them end up in the bushes. I've seen OLED displays being talked up for a couple of years now and their flexibility is no secret, surely there's a way to incorporate that into / onto a thin canvas type material that could essentially be a buy once newspaper, keep the size the same worldwide, that of an opened newspaper page or even only half a one and just have the newspaper received digitally and displayed.

That was the idea anyway, but with everyone apparently owning a tablet pc of some sort now you can just access all the major print news sources through practically any browser.

Still a canvas material would be more flexible, and I wouldn't worry about dropping it / stepping on it constantly like the missus Ipad :P
02:23pm 09/11/11 Permalink
thermite
Brisbane, Queensland
8445 posts
The bit where the little boy and girl are talking through the glass, is that meant to be like they're talking online? Would be funny if the little girl morphs into a 50 year old man...

I also like how you don't see a single ad on any of those screens... yeah right...

last edited by thermite at 14:52:01 09/Nov/11
02:48pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11173 posts
John Gruber talked about this recently.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/11/companies_that_publish_concept_videos

And he's an Apple guy.

Go fucking figure.
02:52pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2030 posts
No damn chance any bus shelter would be made of that glass, but over all I think these idea are pretty cool.
03:55pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Jabroney
Queensland
1349 posts
whats funnier than this, is checking out their projection for 2010

they got the tablet/constant connection thing, but the interface and style was way off. thank fuk stylus's didn't stick around

04:18pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Reverend Evil
Wynnum, Queensland
19363 posts
Wont somebody think of the fingerprints!
04:45pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Clubby
Brisbane, Queensland
688 posts
Interesting rant on this sort of thing a work mate sent me:

HERE
04:56pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Trauma
Melbourne, Victoria
2031 posts
Interesting rant on this sort of thing a work mate sent me:

HERE

Didn't bother finishing it, he's over complicating it far too much.
05:44pm 09/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6758 posts
And he's an Apple guy.

Go fucking figure.

He does have a point though. And it's not just Microsoft. Heaps of companies prototype cool looking shit then release something inferior.
06:24pm 09/11/11 Permalink
eski
Perth, Western Australia
542 posts
lol bollocks, the planes we have still look the same as the planes from 10 years ago. Plus unless MS go around inserting carrots in everyones asses, the future will never look like an MS commercial.

Hell, most schools I know are still using the same shit they had 10 years ago.
06:33pm 09/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11187 posts
He does have a point though. And it's not just Microsoft. Heaps of companies prototype cool looking shit then release something inferior.

Shrug, I don't see the problem. Aim high IMO, there's plenty of time for the grim reality of users and engineering and people being fucking PEOPLE to grind away at the aspirations of the design team during development.
Hell, most schools I know are still using the same shit they had 10 years ago.

Then you know shit schools. Every classroom in my kid's school has wicked crazy technology.
06:37pm 09/11/11 Permalink
TicMan
Melbourne, Victoria
7462 posts
Just came to post the same link Clubby posted - quite an interesting read if you take the time.
10:46am 10/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6762 posts
Lol. Arc up buddy.

P.S. I wasn't talking about internal prototyping, which is totally necessary, and so wasn't Gruber. I just find it silly when companies show and tell, then never release anything nearly that cool.
10:56am 10/11/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9772 posts
i was going to post 'let me guess, people swiping through photos on some piece of semi-transparent glass'

but looks like everyone else sees through this bullshit too.
good article clubby
11:08am 10/11/11 Permalink
The GuVna
Brisbane, Queensland
1726 posts
If I was a kid & I was drawing on a glass board to another class across the globe, I'd draw a big penis.

edit: haha I just lost my shit after the thought of the big penis I drew started animating! :D
11:16am 10/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11207 posts
Lol. Arc up buddy.

??!!!
12:49pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Scooter
Brisbane, Queensland
5118 posts
A lot of Public primary schools now have interactive whiteboards in place of the old black/chalk boards. Some teachers don't embrace it though... and treat it as a regular white board...
12:54pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Mantra
Crusty old man
Brisbane, Queensland
3043 posts
A lot of Public primary schools now have interactive whiteboards in place of the old black/chalk boards. Some teachers don't embrace it though... and treat it as a regular white board...

Yeah, that something my kids say. It's nifty having all this tech in schools, but if some of the teachers are still scared of email, it's not going to be particularly valuable.
01:19pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Nerfy
Brisbane, Queensland
4819 posts
Interactive whiteboards sounds amazing. Kids these days should stop learning and getting smart with cool things, in my day we were happy if we got one of the four demountable rooms with airconditioning between the two thousand kids, and then only if the teacher wasn't stingy :P (and those rooms smelled toxic'y, so you can be sure that we were miserable either way!).
01:33pm 10/11/11 Permalink
HurricaneJim
Brisbane, Queensland
916 posts
Notice no games.
01:46pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Clubby
Brisbane, Queensland
695 posts
I'm so going to start buying up all the Shamwow's to resell as miracle cleaning solutions in this so called "future".
01:49pm 10/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6764 posts
??!!!

You have a tendency to go crazy when anyone who uses Apple stuff mentions the word Apple somewhere. It's like auto attack mode or something.
01:54pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11209 posts
You have a tendency to go crazy when anyone who uses Apple stuff mentions the word Apple somewhere. It's like auto attack mode or something.

So when did I go crazy exactly? I pointed out that an an admitted Apple disciple was criticising MS' modus operandi. And then in the next post I SHRUGGED to indicate nonchalance. Should I have put a smiley in there so you felt safe too?!

Is it because I said 'fuck' or something? What has happened to this place :(
01:59pm 10/11/11 Permalink
hardware
Brisbane, Queensland
9779 posts
hoggy, 3dee is still pretty butthurt after realising that so many people have very, very good points of why apple isn't the best
02:06pm 10/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6765 posts
Haha.

All I'm saying is that regardless of the merit of the argument made, anything that has to do with Apple is immediately shot down.

Shrugs.
02:42pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11211 posts
I disagree with the argument and have dubious feelings about the impartiality of the poster.

But along with the reasoned response, we get the people-just-hate-Apple victim bit.

Who does that remind you of, 3dee? Do you want to be like that guy?
03:52pm 10/11/11 Permalink
copuis
Brisbane, Queensland
1531 posts
if an apple product has merit it will get support

when it is about flash, and at the expense due product depth then fuck of

buying apple because it is the best, is like buy a prius because it is the greenest, it is a joke

(my point is with the toyota might use less fuel, and look all pretty, but the amount of energy used in the mining and production of the materials required to built it far and away negate any green factor)
04:04pm 10/11/11 Permalink
3dee
Brisbane, Queensland
6766 posts
But Apple is the best! **ducks for cover**

Anyway, ignoring the Apple-centered nature of the blog post, I do agree with Gruber about the companies that do this. Building all these expectations about future awesomeness only to release a product that falls far behind it is not the best thing. I'm not saying anything about Windows Phone 7 or Android, I'm just saying in general and I generally agree with the argument.

i.e. How much a huge waste of time was the Courier project, when companies like Apple have actually released something and are selling them like hotcakes. Btw, I'm using MS and Apple as an example because I know of the example...

last edited by 3dee at 16:27:28 10/Nov/11
04:22pm 10/11/11 Permalink
skythra
Brisbane, Queensland
4808 posts
Hell, most schools I know are still using the same shit they had 10 years ago.

Computers, laptops, paper, pens, whiteboards, projectors, lecturns with cameras for the projectors, and teachers?

That's what I remember from 2001.

I can only think that they've probably integrated better networks to those things now insetad of teachers bringing a disc or early 64mb thumbdrives. Probably wifi for students and phones are probably not banned anymore.

Funny though, because in 2000 we were still submitting assignments digitally, but from 3.5" floppy. I guess because you couldn't have expected every kid to have had a burner at that stage.
04:30pm 10/11/11 Permalink
Hogfather
Cairns, Queensland
11212 posts
Anyway, ignoring the Apple-centered nature of the blog post, I do agree with Gruber about the companies that do this. Building all these expectations about future awesomeness only to release a product that falls far behind it is not the best thing. I'm not saying anything about Windows Phone 7 or Android, I'm just saying in general and I generally agree with the argument.
So you hate concept cars too ?!

I really don't see the problem, at all. Sure it might not be feasible, but that's just not the point of the exercise. I love that R&D is aspirational and that we get to see where the pie-in-the-sky guys would love to take us.

Its not a promise, its just a pretty picture of what could be, so I don't feel like I got a lump of coal when the reality turns out to be more functional than the original goal. How boring and stale if they kept this shit to themselves!
05:31pm 10/11/11 Permalink
BOOST
Brisbane, Queensland
426 posts
Haha. All I'm saying is that regardless of the merit of the argument made, anything that has to do with Apple is immediately shot down. Shrugs.


Hogfather is the biggest troll on this forum. Don't worry, he's not actually intelligent enough to argue most of the points he tries to make.
09:13pm 11/11/11 Permalink
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